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Started by Radish, September 01, 2007, 09:46:18 AM

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PR19_Kit

The hybrid Mossie wouldn't need too long gear legs if it was a jet, there'd be little need for prop clearance............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

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Weaver

Quote from: Old Wombat on October 16, 2025, 02:03:54 AM
Quote from: Weaver on October 15, 2025, 05:04:50 PMConceptually, the biggest problem would be that the front fuselage is too short to maintain the CofG. The Mosquito's engines are significantly further forward than the Meteor's, so with the latter fitted, the front fuselage would have to be longer to compensate, much like a Meteor or Canberra, or you'd have to find some other way of making it heavier.

I'd think the biggest issue is the landing gear;
- the Meteor is low-wing with very short legs mounted in the wings & not much space under her,
- the Mosquito is mid-winged with long legs mounted in the engine nacelles & a substantial amount of belly under her wings

You'd want to land the hybrid very carefully, if you didn't want to bash your fuselage against the ground.

Fair points, although the Canberra didn't have much ground clearance either. The jet Mossie would definitely need a nosewheel, although since you're stretching the forward fuselage anyway...
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Weaver

Quote from: chrisonord on October 15, 2025, 11:54:32 PMHmm, maybe not then.   :-\

It wouldn't be that hard to stretch the forward fuselage: cut it at it's widest point, somewhere behind the cockpit, then insert a "barrel", either by scratchbuilding or robbing a section from another Mossie. You're going to have to modify the wing mountings anyway, so the bit extra the stretch causes doesn't make much odds.
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scooter

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 16, 2025, 01:47:23 AMPost War bomber scheme, but in Tiger Force markings  :thumbsup:


Gonna wait for the final GB of the year? :angel:
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NARSES2

Quote from: scooter on October 16, 2025, 04:17:32 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 16, 2025, 01:47:23 AMPost War bomber scheme, but in Tiger Force markings  :thumbsup:


Gonna wait for the final GB of the year? :angel:

Almost certainly  ;D
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Weaver

November's Aeroplane magazine has a trio of articles on the Mosquito. One of them is all about the history of prototype W4050 and the many mods it tested. There's several close-up pics of things like all the nacelle modifications. Another is about The People's Mosquito, which is effectively a new-build Mossie currently under way in the UK by Retrotec. This is a hell of a job, including manufacturing their own plywood (because some of the types used in the 1940s aren't manufactured any more). The last is an interview with the owner of a restored one.
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chrisonord

Quote from: Weaver on October 16, 2025, 03:29:22 AM
Quote from: chrisonord on October 15, 2025, 11:54:32 PMHmm, maybe not then.  :-\

It wouldn't be that hard to stretch the forward fuselage: cut it at it's widest point, somewhere behind the cockpit, then insert a "barrel", either by scratchbuilding or robbing a section from another Mossie. You're going to have to modify the wing mountings anyway, so the bit extra the stretch causes doesn't make much odds.
I will have a look at the meteor I have and look for a mosquito kit that could be suitable for the kit bash. So who is up for mosquito wings on a meteor fuselage...?
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Weaver

Quote from: chrisonord on October 16, 2025, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: Weaver on October 16, 2025, 03:29:22 AM
Quote from: chrisonord on October 15, 2025, 11:54:32 PMHmm, maybe not then.  :-\

It wouldn't be that hard to stretch the forward fuselage: cut it at it's widest point, somewhere behind the cockpit, then insert a "barrel", either by scratchbuilding or robbing a section from another Mossie. You're going to have to modify the wing mountings anyway, so the bit extra the stretch causes doesn't make much odds.
I will have a look at the meteor I have and look for a mosquito kit that could be suitable for the kit bash. So who is up for mosquito wings on a meteor fuselage...?

Go for it: earlier Meteors have shorter front fuselages so are more appropriate. They were originally intended to have six cannons, but the lower two couldn't be removed without standing in front of the muzzle, so they were dropped and replaced by ballast. The T.7 replaced the ballast with 30" more fuselage and two seats, while the F.8 took the T.7-length fuselage and replaced the back-seater with more fuel.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

kitbasher

Dunno about Mossie wings but dH Hornet wings work on a Meteor:
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See https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?msg=264030 and the build at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=17757.0.  Must restore the pics.

BTW, in addition to the articles in 'Aeroplane', Key Publishing has republished their Mosquito bookazine - https://shop.keypublishing.com/products/mosquito-third-edition?_pos=14&_fid=2b1077736&_ss=c&variant=55785061974399

And we probably need to get back to purely Airfix-related posts now!
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chrisonord

Quote from: kitbasher on October 17, 2025, 01:22:46 AMDunno about Mossie wings but dH Hornet wings work on a Meteor:
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See https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?msg=264030 and the build at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=17757.0.  Must restore the pics.

BTW, in addition to the articles in 'Aeroplane', Key Publishing has republished their Mosquito bookazine - https://shop.keypublishing.com/products/mosquito-third-edition?_pos=14&_fid=2b1077736&_ss=c&variant=55785061974399

And we probably need to get back to purely Airfix-related posts now!
That looks really good.  :thumbsup:
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If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

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PR19_Kit

What Chrisonord said, it looks terrific, and the 5 bladers really give it a bit of 'extra' whiff.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Its like "Hmm, a Mosquito...
...hang on, what?"
 :thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.