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Started by Radish, September 01, 2007, 09:46:18 AM

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chrisonord

I wonder if the wings from the old airfix meteor would fit on a mosquito...? All this talk of meteors mosquitos and jet engines has got the saw dust smouldering.
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chrisonord

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 15, 2025, 02:12:21 PMOnly one way to find out Chris.  ;D
Haha, oh dear, time to find a 1/72 scale mosquito of much cheapness  :banghead:  :wacko:
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jcf

Quote from: Weaver on October 15, 2025, 03:38:25 AMI'm no more interested in Mosquitos than I am in Spitfires or Bf 109s, but I know plenty of people are, so I'm glad for them.

I have ZERO criticisms of the Mosquito by the way, it was an EXCELLENT design, but for whatever reason it just generates ZERO what-if ideas in my brain... :-\
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jcf

Quote from: zenrat on October 15, 2025, 03:43:12 AMThey are waiting until Telford to unveil the new Spitfire...
 ;)
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Weaver

Quote from: chrisonord on October 15, 2025, 02:11:16 PMI wonder if the wings from the old airfix meteor would fit on a mosquito...? All this talk of meteors mosquitos and jet engines has got the saw dust smouldering.

I was just looking for something else when I realised I had the bits to test-fit this (kinda). OLD Airfix Mosquito and a Matchbox (I think) NF Meteor wing. It should be doable: the root chord is almost identical, but you'd have to trim a bit off the wing's trailing edge fillet to get a clean joint. Now it looks like the old Airfix Meteor had the root fillet moulded to the fuselage, so that gives you the opposite problem: a triangular gap in the wing to fill at the wing root trailing edge. The other issue is that the Mosquito wing is significantly thicker than the Meteor's, so there's either a large gap to fill or a large wing-root joint face to cut down, depending on how the Mossie kit you choose has it's wing attachment engineered.

Conceptually, the biggest problem would be that the front fuselage is too short to maintain the CofG. The Mosquito's engines are significantly further forward than the Meteor's, so with the latter fitted, the front fuselage would have to be longer to compensate, much like a Meteor or Canberra, or you'd have to find some other way of making it heavier.
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Charlie_c67

Nose mounted Molins artillery piece?
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Just thicken the meteor wing? At least just the inboard section?

scautomoton

Quote from: Weaver on October 15, 2025, 05:04:50 PMConceptually, the biggest problem would be that the front fuselage is too short to maintain the CofG. The Mosquito's engines are significantly further forward than the Meteor's, so with the latter fitted, the front fuselage would have to be longer to compensate, much like a Meteor or Canberra, or you'd have to find some other way of making it heavier.
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chrisonord

Hmm, maybe not then.   :-\
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Pee on it and walk away!!

Weaver

Quote from: Andrew Gorman on October 15, 2025, 09:14:09 PMJust thicken the meteor wing? At least just the inboard section?

Probably easier to modify the fuselage to match the thinner Meteor wing. If the Mosquito fuselage has a soxket for the wing, then you just have to fill the gaps. If it has a wing "stub" then you have to thin it down, which is is a pain, but doable, particularly with a power tool. I've done it to put G.91 wings on a Magister before now.
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McColm

Don't think I've built the Mosquito, just need to find a slot for it as a submarine hunter.

NARSES2

I've already decided upon the scheme I'll put my one in (when I get it) in post Telford  :thumbsup:

Post War bomber scheme, but in Tiger Force markings  :thumbsup:

As for an engine swap ? How about Trents ? Might look good side by side with a Trent Meteor, and yes I have built the SH kit.
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Rheged

Quote from: McColm on October 16, 2025, 12:30:47 AMDon't think I've built the Mosquito, just need to find a slot for it as a submarine hunter.
Perhaps this may provide the necessary material.

Information lifted from  https://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/mosquito.htm  .............  this  is an excellent site I commend to you all.

From November 1943 on wards the Mosquito was also used to attack U-boats shortly after, or just before they entered a port. Warning of these opportunities was provided by code breakers. At that moment the U-boats travelled on the surface, and therefore were vulnerable to rockets or the 57mm shells of the FB.XVIII. For safety, the U-boats usually formed small convoys, with an escort of mine sweepers or so called Sperrbrecher ships, which had hulls reinforced with concrete as a protection against mines; both types bristled with anti-aircraft guns. For example, on 27 March 1944 six FB.VIs and two FB.XVIIIs attacked a convoy towards La Pallice, formed by U-960 with a escort of four M-class mine sweepers and two Sprerrbrecher vessels. Three mine sweepers suffered light damage, U-960 was badly damaged

Rheged minor has a book about sub-hunting Mosquitos, but I'm 250 miles away at the moment so I can't give you the title;  data to follow when I get home.
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Old Wombat

Quote from: Weaver on October 15, 2025, 05:04:50 PMConceptually, the biggest problem would be that the front fuselage is too short to maintain the CofG. The Mosquito's engines are significantly further forward than the Meteor's, so with the latter fitted, the front fuselage would have to be longer to compensate, much like a Meteor or Canberra, or you'd have to find some other way of making it heavier.

I'd think the biggest issue is the landing gear;
- the Meteor is low-wing with very short legs mounted in the wings & not much space under her,
- the Mosquito is mid-winged with long legs mounted in the engine nacelles & a substantial amount of belly under her wings

You'd want to land the hybrid very carefully, if you didn't want to bash your fuselage against the ground.
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