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Started by Radish, September 01, 2007, 09:46:18 AM

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NARSES2

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 06, 2025, 11:16:54 AMCompare it to the acquisition of shoes or handbags, and she'll understand the Savings! one can make.  :thumbsup:

I once opened my wife's wardrobe and pointed at her shoe collection when she commented on me buying something or other. I'm now divorced  :rolleyes:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Weaver

#7876
Well the Vulcan arrived quickly - ordered it on Sunday, here on Tuesday lunchtime!

I really do have ZERO reason to buy the new Space Shuttle when it gets here (end of the month, allegedly), since I already have THREE Revell 1/144th ones including one full stack. Also, the model Airfix are showing in their videos looks a bit off in shape from some angles, so even if I wanted one, I think I'd wait until the reviews came in. I'm not sure, but it looks like the windscreen might raked at too much of an angle, and the chamfer at the front of the cargo bay doors might be too hard-edged. Difficult to say for sure though.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Beermonster58

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 07, 2025, 05:36:43 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 06, 2025, 11:16:54 AMCompare it to the acquisition of shoes or handbags, and she'll understand the Savings! one can make.  :thumbsup:

I once opened my wife's wardrobe and pointed at her shoe collection when she commented on me buying something or other. I'm now divorced  :rolleyes:
I can relate to that😉😂I had a (now ex) partner. We had the same exchanges of views. She made every attempt she could to wean me off what she regarded as a "childish" hobby.

That was when I  questioned her (to my eyes) seeming obsession with wiggling her (admittedly well shaped) posterior to what might loosely be termed "music" (yes, she was a bit of a disco geek) 🕺😂!

Things kind of went downhill after that! I never interfered with her pastimes but, she just couldn't leave my hobbies alone.
Thats why she's my ex😂!
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

zenrat

You could have asked her which adult hobby she would prefer you to take up, whoring, gambling, or drug abuse?
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

Beermonster58

Quote from: zenrat on October 08, 2025, 02:45:43 AMYou could have asked her which adult hobby she would prefer you to take up, whoring, gambling, or drug abuse?
;D  ;D  ;D  :thumbsup: . Despite her occasionally eccentric ideas we DID have quite a bit in common so, I was initially reluctant to end the relationship. My current partner is totally different. She not only contributes to the hobby but, she's a bit of an aviation nut herself! Two of us enjoying "childish" hobbies! ;)  ;D
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

Weaver

Went in the LHS yesterday and noticed he had an Airfix Jaguar on sale. Told him about the problem, we checked the box, and yep, it was a wrong'un.

Nobody from Airfix or the distributor had told him anything about it. He thinks they've sold a couple too.... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Beermonster58 on October 09, 2025, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 08, 2025, 02:45:43 AMYou could have asked her which adult hobby she would prefer you to take up, whoring, gambling, or drug abuse?
;D  ;D  ;D  :thumbsup: . Despite her occasionally eccentric ideas we DID have quite a bit in common so, I was initially reluctant to end the relationship. My current partner is totally different. She not only contributes to the hobby but, she's a bit of an aviation nut herself! Two of us enjoying "childish" hobbies! ;)  ;D

Found one in the end! And that's the main thing. :thumbsup:

Quote from: Weaver on October 09, 2025, 06:30:27 AMWent in the LHS yesterday and noticed he had an Airfix Jaguar on sale. Told him about the problem, we checked the box, and yep, it was a wrong'un.

Nobody from Airfix or the distributor had told him anything about it. He thinks they've sold a couple too.... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

Typical - don't tell them and they'll never know...
There again, were those sales to people like us who know the difference, or were they to folk who couldn't care less?

jcf

Dunno why folk get so upset about
model building being called "childish"
by others. It says more about them
than it does the hobbyist.
"Childish" is synonymous with "child-like" and it is not inherently positive nor negative. The speaker is the one who arbitrarily attaches a meaning based on personal bias and opinion.
"Childish" is most often assigned a negative meaning and "child-like" a
positive meaning i.e. "a chilidish outburst" vs. "a child-like expression of wonder and joy". Thus, accepting that the terms are synonymous, a "childish" hobby can be seen as an expression of wonder and joy.
;D

In regards to the Jaguar and the shop owner, because the kit is coming from
a distributor rather than directly from
Airfix the lines of communication are
different, and it may be that Airfix is not aware that the shop carries their products. That the distributor has been informed is likely, the onus is on them to inform their commercial customers. Or the shop owner could do like the better shop owners I've known and make it a point to track what's going on in the industry, which has never been easier to do than today. Also it's not as if it's a critical issue like an automobile recall or an emergency AD. 

PR19_Kit

Unless things have changed since I helped out in my mate Derek's model shop in the 70s, Airfix had a bunch of reps who came round discussed what was selling and what wasn't, and what did we think of the possible demand for a Scruggs Wonderplane, or whatever. The stuff Derek ordered came direct from Airfix.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

#7884
Quote from: jcf on October 09, 2025, 12:01:04 PMIn regards to the Jaguar and the shop owner, because the kit is coming from
a distributor rather than directly from
Airfix the lines of communication are
different, and it may be that Airfix is not aware that the shop carries their products. That the distributor has been informed is likely, the onus is on them to inform their commercial customers. Or the shop owner could do like the better shop owners I've known and make it a point to track what's going on in the industry, which has never been easier to do than today. Also it's not as if it's a critical issue like an automobile recall or an emergency AD.

As far as I know, Airfix these days operate on a regional distributor basis, each one having exclusivity in their area*. I'd hear the same distributor's name mentioned in all the local model shops (before most of them closed  :rolleyes: ) and let's just say they don't have the greatest reputation.

The two old guys who run this shop are mainly into railways and only do models as a sideline, so I doubt they're aware of the lastest modelling news, if they're even online. He said that he was going to ring the distributor the next day (he was on the point of closing). Also, like another customer in the shop said, some of the people who've bought one may never get around to actually building it...

*The exception is retail chains like Hobbycraft and Toymaster, who get their supplies direct from Airfix. In effect, they're their own "distributor" to their branches.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Beermonster58

#7885
Quote from: jcf on October 09, 2025, 12:01:04 PMDunno why folk get so upset about
model building being called "childish"
by others. It says more about them
than it does the hobbyist.
"Childish" is synonymous with "child-like" and it is not inherently positive nor negative. The speaker is the one who arbitrarily attaches a meaning based on personal bias and opinion.
"Childish" is most often assigned a negative meaning and "child-like" a
positive meaning i.e. "a chilidish outburst" vs. "a child-like expression of wonder and joy". Thus, accepting that the terms are synonymous, a "childish" hobby can be seen as an expression of wonder and joy.
;D

Well, I wasn't in the least bit upset by having my hobbies described as "childish". I'm used to it and, I think it just shows a very narrow minded attitude but, it's really just water off a duck's back.  I tend to agree with the way you put it. Nicely said :thumbsup:
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

Wardukw

Quote from: Beermonster58 on October 10, 2025, 12:30:13 AM
Quote from: jcf on October 09, 2025, 12:01:04 PMDunno why folk get so upset about
model building being called "childish"
by others. It says more about them
than it does the hobbyist.
"Childish" is synonymous with "child-like" and it is not inherently positive nor negative. The speaker is the one who arbitrarily attaches a meaning based on personal bias and opinion.
"Childish" is most often assigned a negative meaning and "child-like" a
positive meaning i.e. "a chilidish outburst" vs. "a child-like expression of wonder and joy". Thus, accepting that the terms are synonymous, a "childish" hobby can be seen as an expression of wonder and joy.
;D

Well, I wasn't in the least bit upset by having my hobbies described as "childish". I'm used to it and, I think it just shows a very narrow minded attitude but, it's really just water off a duck's back.  I tend to agree with the way you put it. Nicely said :thumbsup:
Where i live ,,which could be best described as a holiday camp we used to have this dude you'd visit ,,like a ton of other ppl do lol ..yet this guy who built race car engines couldn't get his head around hobbies ,,my mate Steve who lived here too built model yachts and free sail em ,,this dude would say "what a waste of time" ..when he say what I do he nearly had a heart attack  ;D
When i told him that i could very easily spend 500 hrs on a big build ya should have seen his face  :o  ;D
He saked why i would spend so much time on something this pointless ,,my answer was simple and as it turns out quite affective ...i told him i've made some pretty serious money from building these for other ppl ,,which is turn ..and that it stopped me killing ppl  :wacko:
Which of course isn't turn ...it was never a thing but the shock effect is always nice  :lol:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Weaver

Quote from: Wardukw on October 10, 2025, 06:19:17 AMWhere i live ,,which could be best described as a holiday camp we used to have this dude you'd visit ,,like a ton of other ppl do lol ..yet this guy who built race car engines couldn't get his head around hobbies ,,my mate Steve who lived here too built model yachts and free sail em ,,this dude would say "what a waste of time" ..when he say what I do he nearly had a heart attack  ;D
When i told him that i could very easily spend 500 hrs on a big build ya should have seen his face  :o  ;D
He saked why i would spend so much time on something this pointless ,,my answer was simple and as it turns out quite affective ...i told him i've made some pretty serious money from building these for other ppl ,,which is turn ..and that it stopped me killing ppl  :wacko:
Which of course isn't turn ...it was never a thing but the shock effect is always nice  :lol:

My late uncle, who was a mechanical engineer, could never see a point in model-making, sci-fi, special effects or anything else that, as he put it, "wasn't real". He even bought an Airfix 1/12th scale Bentley at one point but got bored with it and threw in in the loft after a week. He tolerated his brother's long-time project of building a working model steam engine because it involved real-life engineering principles and techniques and would have actually worked (if he'd ever finished it), but that was about that. He applied this right across the board: on a visit to Las Vegas, he couldn't understand why he was supposed to be impressed by the World's Largest Fish Tank, because it was "pointless". "of course you can build a giant fish tank," he said, "but what's it for? It's just spending money for the sake of being seen to spend money."

My cousins, who he was visiting at the time and who were always very impressed by displays of wealth, were utterly perplexed by this.


At least my uncle was consistent: my late mother was completely hypocritical about it. She painted watercolours and played guitar, so the concept of hobbies-for-hobbies-sake was clearly familiar to her, and okay for her to do, but when I got back into modelling in 2008 and showed her my first model, she looked at it doubtfully for a long minute and then said, "well... weeelllll... well can you sell it?" :rolleyes:

When I replied that that wasn't the point, she replied, "well what is the point then?"

It transpired from the subsequent conversation that it was fine for her to have hobbies, but as "the man of the house" (my dad had died by then) anything and everything I did had to be productive or it was a waste of time, even though I had a full-time job and was putting PLENTY of money and time into the household.  :banghead:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

jcf

Hmm, so everything your uncle ever did had to have a utilitarian purpose?
:unsure:
Was he creative as an engineer or just
a plodding boxchecker?

The Rat

People like that should be politely told: "I don't build for you, or anyone else. I build for my own satisfaction, you %$#&^*@ing no-good >$|%#~ snaggle-toothed &*%$>+! Now get out of my house before I %&$#ing kick your )&{@ing $%& through the %$#@ing wall!!!"
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