General Discussion

[RAFF-35]

I found this fantastic project proposal from the Germans. The shape is far too bizarre for me to begin to work out how to go about building one. It's called the UGS Manta. It is an amphibious, submersible,  hydroplaning torpedo boat 

I got a resin kit of that one somewhere.

TomZ

I can't believe someone has produced a kit of it    Who manufactured it and in what scale?

I've found a 3D print file for it but my printer is nowhere near capable enough to do a good job.

[TomZ]

I can't believe someone has produced a kit of it    Who manufactured it and in what scale?

I think it is this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/257114532285?_skw=manta&itmmeta=01KBN0XQ8JR03DH0ZN8AY27SJ5&hash=item3bdd3869bd:g:5AUAAOSwWiBY-5dx

Will dig down in the stash tomorrow

TomZ

[McColm]

Would a V/STOL Ekranoplan be allowed in this build?

 The Bella-1 is an example prototype built in Russia but ran out of funding. They have classed this as an airship and there's a video of it on YouTube.
It does look like a hovercraft with wings and a twin-boom twin-tail with two turboprop engines.

 The BARS hybrid airship thought up by the same bloke but I need clarification on the subject for this GB.

[Rick Lowe]

The shape is far too bizarre for me to begin to work out how to go about building one.

Thick flat sheet, or MDF, and a tube - either a sub or a Canberra model would do.

Glad to 'help'... 

[Andrew Gorman]

Wide, low aspect ratio wings! pirate the from large scale vacuform kits or whittle them out yourself.  The Revell Sea Shadow kit would make a good start for a Whiff...

[TomZ]

Would a V/STOL Ekranoplan be allowed in this build?

Somewhere earlier in the thread we already allowed Ekranoplans.
So also V/STOL ones would be OK too.

Space capable ones would be even better       


TomZ

[McColm]

Would a V/STOL Ekranoplan be allowed in this build?

Somewhere earlier in the thread we already allowed Ekranoplans.
So also V/STOL ones would be OK too.

Space capable ones would be even better       


TomZ

Thanks just have to figure out how to build it from the line drawings and photos.

[PR19_Kit]

Space capable ones would be even better       

Or a submersible version.............. 

[jcf]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

[TomZ]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

I think you might be right. If it is so, then it would not qualify for the GB.

TomZ

[McColm]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

I think you might be right. If it is so, then it would not qualify for the GB.

TomZ

In the film the Manta dives into the water and transforms into a one-manned submarine.

[jcf]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

I think you might be right. If it is so, then it would not qualify for the GB.

TomZ

In the film the Manta dives into the water and transforms into a one-manned submarine.

Not that Manta, the other Manta.

[RAFF-35]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

I think you might be right. If it is so, then it would not qualify for the GB.

TomZ

I thought about that, and if I were doing it, the wheels would be driven by electric motors so that the craft could launch and beach independently,  similar in concept to the Seeteufel.

[TomZ]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

I think you might be right. If it is so, then it would not qualify for the GB.

TomZ

I thought about that, and if I were doing it, the wheels would be driven by electric motors so that the craft could launch and beach independently,  similar in concept to the Seeteufel.

Just beaching would not be enough. But what if it would be able to operate on land as well......

TomZ

[jcf]

Is the loony Manta thing actually amphibious? It appears that the wheels only function as a beaching gear.

I think you might be right. If it is so, then it would not qualify for the GB.

TomZ

I thought about that, and if I were doing it, the wheels would be driven by electric motors so that the craft could launch and beach independently,  similar in concept to the Seeteufel.

The description in the Covert Shores entry states that each of the catamaran hulls contained an electric motor, batteries and the wheels. As the wheels were intended to give it a self-launching capability then it's likely they were powered.
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