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Started by Radish, September 01, 2007, 09:46:18 AM

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Beermonster58 on May 14, 2026, 12:21:53 AMThere's a, note on the colour diagram that says the five & seven bladed props are available as files to download for printing..


That's a bit of breakthrough on Airfix's part though, acknowledging that 3D printing is getting to be an integral part of the plastic modelling world. I doubt I'll ever be doing any such 3D printing, but many of their less ancient customers probably will.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

It seems a bit much to complain that a reissue of a vintage kit doesn't contain new parts that it never had and doesn't need to be built as it was intended when originally released.
Although, all previous Vintage Classics have only had the old schemes and transfers.  This one appears to add a new scheme with new transfers.

The SRN4 sprues are the "frameless" style.  They don't have a complete continuous run of sprue around the outside.  Lacking the strength and protection provided by this perimeter means that they are vulnerable to parts being knocked off and/or damaged.  Airfix liked to use this style of sprues and their kits suffered as a result (anyone seen a Vanguard without at least one prop broken?).  Putting these sprues into bigger boxes means more rattling about and so more damage.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

PR19_Kit

The 'new' SRN4 kits sprues are all in clear plastic bags, whereas the old ones were just banging about in the box. That may be a small improvement, but there's no logical reason for the MASSIVE box now, other than raising the price 'Marketing'.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Beermonster58

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 14, 2026, 02:21:31 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on May 14, 2026, 12:21:53 AMThere's a, note on the colour diagram that says the five & seven bladed props are available as files to download for printing..


That's a bit of breakthrough on Airfix's part though, acknowledging that 3D printing is getting to be an integral part of the plastic modelling world. I doubt I'll ever be doing any such 3D printing, but many of their less ancient customers probably will.
Be that as it may, it's little help to us "ancients" who have neither desire nor inclination to go down the 3D road.

Rather than a breakthrough, I think it's laziness on Airfix's part and , perhaps a little presumptuous with regard to people having 3D printers?

However, it's a moot point really because won't be choosing that hideous colour scheme anyway😉😂. Kind of makes the propeller issue irrelevant.

I've got a set of six blades propellers salvaged from a 1/144 C-130. Wonder if they'd fit🤔😂. Might try that for a bit of fun
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

zenrat

I suspect that presumption will be made more and more often.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

Weaver

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 14, 2026, 03:47:56 AMThe 'new' SRN4 kits sprues are all in clear plastic bags, whereas the old ones were just banging about in the box. That may be a small improvement, but there's no logical reason for the MASSIVE box now, other than raising the price 'Marketing'.

Couple of alternative theories:

1. It's about the thickness.
In one respect the Vintage Classics box is entirely appropriate, which is that it needs all of it's 3 inch thickness to protect the sprues from getting crushed when the boxes are stacked. I've just had a look at a range of other standard Airfix boxes, and all the shorter and narrower ones are also thinner. It may be that this was the smallest standard box they could get from their packaging supplier, for a reasonable price, that was 3 inches deep.

2. It's about the picture.
The standard "look" for Vintage Classics has the Roy Cross artwork extending over the whole of the box top, without the red panel on the left seen on most new-tools. That means the box has to be roughly the same aspect ratio as the art (they can crop it a little a the edges, but not much). It might be that this was the smallest suitably deep box they could get with the requisite length-to-breadth ratio.

Of course, option 3 is that it could have been both.
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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

Quote from: zenrat on May 14, 2026, 04:08:41 AMI suspect that presumption will be made more and more often.

Uh-huh: look at the increasing degree to which the world presumes that everybody has a smart phone. Minor irritation when you're trying to pay for coffee or parking, major ball-ache when you're trying to access a government service or prove your identity to some outfit who only accepts a pic taken via their app... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Beermonster58

Quote from: Weaver on May 14, 2026, 04:16:15 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 14, 2026, 04:08:41 AMI suspect that presumption will be made more and more often.

Uh-huh: look at the increasing degree to which the world presumes that everybody has a smart phone. Minor irritation when you're trying to pay for coffee or parking, major ball-ache when you're trying to access a government service or prove your identity to some outfit who only accepts a pic taken via their app... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Well, I don't have a smart phone! That's me screwed!
😂
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Beermonster58 on May 14, 2026, 06:17:54 AM
Quote from: Weaver on May 14, 2026, 04:16:15 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 14, 2026, 04:08:41 AMI suspect that presumption will be made more and more often.

Uh-huh: look at the increasing degree to which the world presumes that everybody has a smart phone. Minor irritation when you're trying to pay for coffee or parking, major ball-ache when you're trying to access a government service or prove your identity to some outfit who only accepts a pic taken via their app... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Well, I don't have a smart phone! That's me screwed!
😂

Ditto.
Much like the presumption that 'No-one uses cash anymore, so we don't accept it'...  :banghead:  :angry:

Old Wombat

Quote from: Rick Lowe on May 14, 2026, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on May 14, 2026, 06:17:54 AM
Quote from: Weaver on May 14, 2026, 04:16:15 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 14, 2026, 04:08:41 AMI suspect that presumption will be made more and more often.

Uh-huh: look at the increasing degree to which the world presumes that everybody has a smart phone. Minor irritation when you're trying to pay for coffee or parking, major ball-ache when you're trying to access a government service or prove your identity to some outfit who only accepts a pic taken via their app... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Well, I don't have a smart phone! That's me screwed!
😂

Ditto.
Much like the presumption that 'No-one uses cash anymore, so we don't accept it'...  :banghead:  :angry:

There's a growing push by Australian consumers to move away from cards & phones & back to cash, largely brought about by the economic downturn & the need to budget more tightly ... & a growing black economy.
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Beermonster58

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Quote from: Rick Lowe on May 14, 2026, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on May 14, 2026, 06:17:54 AM
Quote from: Weaver on May 14, 2026, 04:16:15 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 14, 2026, 04:08:41 AMI suspect that presumption will be made more and more often.

Uh-huh: look at the increasing degree to which the world presumes that everybody has a smart phone. Minor irritation when you're trying to pay for coffee or parking, major ball-ache when you're trying to access a government service or prove your identity to some outfit who only accepts a pic taken via their app... :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Well, I don't have a smart phone! That's me screwed!
😂

Ditto.
Much like the presumption that 'No-one uses cash anymore, so we don't accept it'...  :banghead:  :angry:

Yup! Been there. I simply boycott any business I come across that doesn't accept cash.

Another very arrogant presumption that really hacks me off is : " but, everyone drives/has a car". Well, I don't and , I haven't. Last time I told someone that he looked at me as if I'd just confessed to bedding his wife! 😂😂

Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!

scautomoton

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zenrat

Quote from: scautomoton on May 15, 2026, 01:12:08 AMThis will blow your minds....
...My Wife has never seen Star Wars.....

Ah, so she's a hard core Trekkie then...

 ;D
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

Weaver

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My Wife has never seen Star Wars.....

There's a whole genre of Youtube videos of people watching Star Wars for the first time, including, perhaps predictably, lots of young people. A lot of them are familiar with the images, characters and quotes from the general culture, but have never actually sat down and watched the movies. It's kinda fun/maddening seeing their eyes pop and hearing them say, "Wait? What? That's where that meme comes from? OMG I never realised..."
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

I've spent a lot of time around older people (my parents had me late in life) and it's maddening the way they increasingly get excluded from modern life by "tech assumptions". It's somehow worse that the people responsible aren't even doing it deliberately: at least good old-fashioned malice would be something you could point a finger at and push back against. The well-meaning, "but it's so much more convenient..." is harder to argue with, because the person on the other end has likely never tried to put themselves in the shoes of an old person for one second in their entire life. It's an uphill struggle trying to get it across to them that "just scan the QR code" is not convenient if it's the equivalent of saying, "the information's written on the bottom of a rock on Mars: just go and look at it". :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones