BoeConsol B-33 Bomber Escort

[63cpe]

Wooooow, looks great even though It's not finished yet. It's a crazy cool plan to realize. Amazing you've taken the plunge.

Carry-on! I'd love to see this finished.

David aka 63cpe

[Wardukw]

Crazy, but in a Good Way!
Jamie is impressed, and says he's very happy to have aided and abetted such Madness.   

Thanks ya  matey  ..tell Jamie he's seen nothing yet 😉 😀
Guy and Dave    ..thanks gents ....one thing I can guarantee for sure  ...im gonna need more putty 

[jcf]

Cool. 
Technically speaking what you have there is a tandem wing aircraft. Those large forward surfaces would provide lift and support the fwd. fuselage, unlike in the classic canard configuration in which the surfaces supply minimal lift and are used for stability and control. A propeller driven canard design also requires that the mainplanes be swept for CG placement and basic pitch stability. The same problem that bedevils all tailless designs.

[Wardukw]

Cool. 
Technically speaking what you have there is a tandem wing aircraft. Those large forward surfaces would provide lift and support the fwd. fuselage, unlike in the classic canard configuration in which the surfaces supply minimal lift and are used for stability and control. A propeller driven canard design also requires that the mainplanes be swept for CG placement and basic pitch stability. The same problem that bedevils all tailless designs.

Thanks for that Jon mate  . ..so im a thinking that calling em winglets would be a more accurate description for em 🤔
I like it..forward winglets 

[NARSES2]

Woh! 

A very appropriate comment I feel and indeed concur with   

[Scotaidh]

That's brilliant!    I've seen artists' impressions of a Lanc done that way, but never a Liberator - well done!  I'm thinking that if you can get rid of the main wings' forward sweep you'll simplify the engines, mate - can you pad the front of the wing sockets?  Maybe file down the wing roots a bit?  I'm sure you've considered all that - but why take the easy way out. eh? 

Mind you, I've read that the Sunderland's wings were swiped from another aircraft and installed with a few degrees backward stagger, so the engines were always pulling out to 'their' side, so to speak - making the aircraft very stable, so long as all engines functioned normally.  Engine out must have been exciting, though ... 

[Robomog]

That is looking beautifully bonkers at the moment, keep up the good work.

I'd swear you have shares in a model filler company     

Mog
>^-.-^<

[zenrat]

F**king A.   

Although IMO the winglets need some sweep to their trailing edge mirroring the main wings.

[Wardukw]

That's brilliant!    I've seen artists' impressions of a Lanc done that way, but never a Liberator - well done!  I'm thinking that if you can get rid of the main wings' forward sweep you'll simplify the engines, mate - can you pad the front of the wing sockets?  Maybe file down the wing roots a bit?  I'm sure you've considered all that - but why take the easy way out. eh? 

Mind you, I've read that the Sunderland's wings were swiped from another aircraft and installed with a few degrees backward stagger, so the engines were always pulling out to 'their' side, so to speak - making the aircraft very stable, so long as all engines functioned normally.  Engine out must have been exciting, though ... 

Matey things with thing are looking better and better ,,in my warped mind that is 
The wings are no where near done yet ,,they are going to be totally smoothed into the fuselage for one thing ...yep the cheating side of things is being used as much as possible here ,,,its was much simpler to cut out the mounts from a useless B-24 fuselage than to mock up a whole new mount and then smooth the two together ,,there's still a ton of smoothing to go just to blend the 24's mounts into the 17's fuselage but i did more yesterday to sort that and then realized im not even half way there yet   
As for the engines ...yep entirely new look for them as it turns out ,,,i'm not looking more towards TU-95 Bear for that as this is getting TP's and it will make it easier to lengthen the engines too .    

That is looking beautifully bonkers at the moment, keep up the good work.

I'd swear you have shares in a model filler company     

Mog
>^-.-^<

Moggy bud i'm looking at putting an order in this week for quite alot more putty than i have i can tell ya   

F**king A.   

Although IMO the winglets need some sweep to their trailing edge mirroring the main wings.

watch this space buddy boy       

[perttime]

Cool. 
Technically speaking what you have there is a tandem wing aircraft. Those large forward surfaces would provide lift and support the fwd. fuselage, unlike in the classic canard configuration in which the surfaces supply minimal lift and are used for stability and control. A propeller driven canard design also requires that the mainplanes be swept for CG placement and basic pitch stability. The same problem that bedevils all tailless designs.

Thanks for that Jon mate  . ..so im a thinking that calling em winglets would be a more accurate description for em 🤔
I like it..forward winglets 

Better just call them wings. In the Real World, "winglets" means something a little different.

"Bonkers" sounds appropriate 

[Wardukw]

Cool. 
Technically speaking what you have there is a tandem wing aircraft. Those large forward surfaces would provide lift and support the fwd. fuselage, unlike in the classic canard configuration in which the surfaces supply minimal lift and are used for stability and control. A propeller driven canard design also requires that the mainplanes be swept for CG placement and basic pitch stability. The same problem that bedevils all tailless designs.

Thanks for that Jon mate  . ..so im a thinking that calling em winglets would be a more accurate description for em 🤔
I like it..forward winglets 

Better just call them wings. In the Real World, "winglets" means something a little different.

"Bonkers" sounds appropriate 

Winglets are yummy if there the ones your thinking off 😋 😉

[Gondor]

Cool. 
Technically speaking what you have there is a tandem wing aircraft. Those large forward surfaces would provide lift and support the fwd. fuselage, unlike in the classic canard configuration in which the surfaces supply minimal lift and are used for stability and control. A propeller driven canard design also requires that the mainplanes be swept for CG placement and basic pitch stability. The same problem that bedevils all tailless designs.

Thanks for that Jon mate  . ..so im a thinking that calling em winglets would be a more accurate description for em 🤔
I like it..forward winglets 

Better just call them wings. In the Real World, "winglets" means something a little different.

"Bonkers" sounds appropriate 

Bonkers are an actual thing in aviation. They are small explosive charges, that are used to induce a change in direction, without damage to the surface they are mounted on. Only used in the development stage and predominantly in the 60's.

[perttime]

Cool. 
Technically speaking what you have there is a tandem wing aircraft. Those large forward surfaces would provide lift and support the fwd. fuselage, unlike in the classic canard configuration in which the surfaces supply minimal lift and are used for stability and control. A propeller driven canard design also requires that the mainplanes be swept for CG placement and basic pitch stability. The same problem that bedevils all tailless designs.

Thanks for that Jon mate  . ..so im a thinking that calling em winglets would be a more accurate description for em 🤔
I like it..forward winglets 

Better just call them wings. In the Real World, "winglets" means something a little different.

"Bonkers" sounds appropriate 

Winglets are yummy if there the ones your thinking off 😋 😉

Actually, I was thinking of:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingtip_device#Winglets

But also: "The term "winglet" was previously used to describe an additional lifting surface on an aircraft, like a short section between wheels on fixed undercarriage. Richard Whitcomb's research in the 1970s at NASA first used winglet with its modern meaning referring to near-vertical extension of the wing tips."

[zenrat]

If not winglets, then how about 'foreplanes"?

[Wardukw]

If not winglets, then how about 'foreplanes"?

Ahhhh ha ..yeah it shows that me brain sometimes went straight to food instead of to winglets   
Mate I'm liking foreplanes even tho it sounds like a part from a boat 
Or call em TLFW's "The little front wings"
What ever the hell they end being called I'm still chuffed they were so easy to sort out