Pear Pimple Thoughts.

Started by HarryPhishnuts, May 19, 2025, 09:14:57 AM

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zenrat

You know, I can envisage a time when there is a backlash against 3d printed models and people start calling for them to be banned from competition as they are "not in the spirit of the hobby".
Fred

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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

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HarryPhishnuts

It does bring up some interesting questions. I've never entered a competition, but how are any third party mods whether 3D printed, or a resin kit or PE or whatever considered.

I got a 3D printer originally last summer because there were some mod I wanted to make to kits that I just didn't have the parts for or skill to craft out of raw materials. So I designed and printed what I needed. Earlier this year I built an old Testors F-4G  and wanted a load out of 4 AGM-88s. My options were either buy some (Hasagawa weapons kt, ResKit, ...) or print something. I found someone who had done a nice model of one so I used that. I think I paid a couple buck for the print file. Is that different than buying it from ResKit?? I don't know, it definitely makes ya think  :unsure: .
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scooter

Quote from: HarryPhishnuts on July 01, 2025, 08:24:41 AMIt does bring up some interesting questions. I've never entered a competition, but how are any third party mods whether 3D printed, or a resin kit or PE or whatever considered.

I got a 3D printer originally last summer because there were some mod I wanted to make to kits that I just didn't have the parts for or skill to craft out of raw materials. So I designed and printed what I needed. Earlier this year I built an old Testors F-4G  and wanted a load out of 4 AGM-88s. My options were either buy some (Hasagawa weapons kt, ResKit, ...) or print something. I found someone who had done a nice model of one so I used that. I think I paid a couple buck for the print file. Is that different than buying it from ResKit?? I don't know, it definitely makes ya think  :unsure: .
Or scratchbuilding up a kit.  And, honestly, if you're really good with CAD programs, what's stopping you from designing and printing your own "scratchbuilt" of a totally nonexistent vehicle?  IMHO, event planners are going to have to take a seriously look at how 3d printers can actually improve a model, at modest expense.
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HarryPhishnuts

Quote from: scooter on July 01, 2025, 10:01:34 AMOr scratchbuilding up a kit.  And, honestly, if you're really good with CAD programs, what's stopping you from designing and printing your own "scratchbuilt" of a totally nonexistent vehicle?  IMHO, event planners are going to have to take a seriously look at how 3d printers can actually improve a model, at modest expense.
I'm part of a couple Spaceship modeling groups on Facebook and those guys do a lot of their own 3D design and printing because there just simply aren't kits for the subjects they like. So yeah it does open up a bunch of possibilities (and probably cans of worms).
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Rick Lowe

Quote from: zenrat on July 01, 2025, 04:51:01 AMYou know, I can envisage a time when there is a backlash against 3d printed models and people start calling for them to be banned from competition as they are "not in the spirit of the hobby".


Then there's the issue of making a part yourself, vs. buying a resin conversion...

Not something I'm getting in the middle of, but I can see both sides as well as the arguments pro and con.

HarryPhishnuts

So got to black basing my Hasagawa 1/72 F9F-8 Cougar and thought it looked like some kind of really cool whiff possibility. This one however is going to be the latest addition to my USN Jolly Rogers collection. I'm building one of each aircraft that have flown the Jolly Rogers flag. Started with the F4U Corsair and now up to the Cougar. I'm doing the Glossy Sea Blue scheme but wanted to try and give it a faint green chromate undertone thus the green-ish mottling. See how it goes.
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HarryPhishnuts

Ok finally wrapping this one up. Build was the pretty straightforward for such an old kit. The problems, as usual were of my own making. The CTA decal set had the USN High Viz for the F9F-8 and the GSB for the F9F-6. Of course I wanted to be difficult and do the GSB for the -8 as they wore both schemes. I actually found a picture of 2 VF-61 -8 deployed, one in GSB and one in High Viz. So I had to mask and paint all the yellow marking which took a bit of work. It's not 100% accurate, but close enough to add the rest of my Jolly Rogers collection. 🏴�☠️
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kerick

Excellent job! Better than I could do that's for sure.
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zenrat

Nice job.  You've done that glorious box design justice.   :thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

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HarryPhishnuts

Quote from: zenrat on August 10, 2025, 04:37:28 AMNice job.  You've done that glorious box design justice.   :thumbsup:

I really like the box art on those old Hasagawa kits. I've got a couple more in the stash (F-4J and P-38). I usually throw out the boxes after a build but I think I'll keep those and frame them maybe.
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PR19_Kit

Fred Zenrat is THE expert on those boxes.  :thumbsup:

Have you got every one now Fred?
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zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 11, 2025, 06:52:55 AMFred Zenrat is THE expert on those boxes.  :thumbsup:

Have you got every one now Fred?

Not an expert, just an appreciator and collector.
I have deliberately stayed away from finding out just how many kits fit into what I call Hasegawa's "Box Art & Font" era as i can tend toward completeism and don't want to get obsessed.  Especially as most seem to have been released with two or three different colours on the box tops (compare the two Panthers in the collection linked below).  I can see myself having to have every colourway...

Here's what i've got.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/sets/72157688413164824/

They will all be built (or used to supply parts) but I keep their boxes.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

NARSES2

Some of the old Frog boxes can stir the nostalgia bugs into life, but then at one point they did have a tie in with Hasegawa ? Someting similar anyway.
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