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Beermonster58

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 30, 2025, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: McColm on December 30, 2025, 08:54:56 AM....... but something like the BAC 1-11 in 1/72 scale would be appreciated.


I'm afraid that Airfix doing any large airliner in 1/72 is just wishful thinking. When I was an active member of the Airliner SIG we suggested to them that doing a Comet 4 should be fairly easy as they'd done some of the design already with the Nimrod. But they said there just wasn't the market for 1/72 airliners to warrant the outlay on the tooling.
Maybe if they marketed  a military version  with a civil variant as an option. Shouldn't be too difficult I'd think.Maybe an  RAF VC. 10 with option for a BOAC version? RAF Comet with option for a BEA version?
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Quote from: Beermonster58 on January 02, 2026, 03:49:29 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 30, 2025, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: McColm on December 30, 2025, 08:54:56 AM....... but something like the BAC 1-11 in 1/72 scale would be appreciated.


I'm afraid that Airfix doing any large airliner in 1/72 is just wishful thinking. When I was an active member of the Airliner SIG we suggested to them that doing a Comet 4 should be fairly easy as they'd done some of the design already with the Nimrod. But they said there just wasn't the market for 1/72 airliners to warrant the outlay on the tooling.
Maybe if they marketed  a military version  with a civil variant as an option. Shouldn't be too difficult I'd think.Maybe an  RAF VC. 10 with option for a BOAC version? RAF Comet with option for a BEA version?

Still not enough of a market for a company like Airfix to produce.
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Quote from: Gondor on January 02, 2026, 04:38:37 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on January 02, 2026, 03:49:29 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 30, 2025, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: McColm on December 30, 2025, 08:54:56 AM....... but something like the BAC 1-11 in 1/72 scale would be appreciated.


I'm afraid that Airfix doing any large airliner in 1/72 is just wishful thinking. When I was an active member of the Airliner SIG we suggested to them that doing a Comet 4 should be fairly easy as they'd done some of the design already with the Nimrod. But they said there just wasn't the market for 1/72 airliners to warrant the outlay on the tooling.
Maybe if they marketed  a military version  with a civil variant as an option. Shouldn't be too difficult I'd think.Maybe an  RAF VC. 10 with option for a BOAC version? RAF Comet with option for a BEA version?

Still not enough of a market for a company like Airfix to produce.


Afraid so, some of the more specialised airliner model companies might do it, but they'd charge a FORTUNE as the market would be so small, and they'd have to pay for the BIG tooling somehow.
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Erm, have you seen the actual size of a VC 10 in 72nd?  It makes a Vulcan look small.  I've got a pair of Magna ones and I have literally nowhere to store them if I ever build them.  And then there's the price tag in the unlikely event Airfix would do one.  I doubt you'd see one under a 100 notes.

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kitbasher

Indeed.

I was always struck by how much bigger than a Victor the VC10 was.

On one occasion at Brize Norton I was equally struck by how much smaller than an E-3D both VC10 K2s/K3s looked.  Possibly because the VC10 sat closer to the ground than the E-3D due to the engine configuration.

Airfix has of course kitted the E-3D in 1/72 (Heller did the Boeing 707), and also Concorde.

But would a mainstream 1/72 VC10 pull in a profit?  I doubt it.  Elegant machine for sure (and I'd be very tempted) but fairly niche, tbh.

And for an aircraft with a pretty limited production run there were a fair few variants.
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AIM did a vacform Super VC10 back in the early 80s. Spotting a built one a stand at the Bridgend Show got me to be the notional English member of the Cardiff Plastic Aeroplane Club.  ;D
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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McColm

With 3D printers coming down in price although this can't be said for the 3D scanners it's just awaiting game for someone to scan a 1/144 airliner model and make a file of it  or a ship in a smaller scale.
I have seen videos of modellers who have scanned the models from Thunderbirds and printed them out in 1/72 scale they look very impressive, they can be fitted with lights,  sound and engines.

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Beermonster58

Well, even if 1/72 airliners are a bust,  there's sizeable and, lucrative 1/144 market out there.
One which I'm surprised Airfix hasn't made any attempt to tap into.
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scautomoton

Quote from: Beermonster58 on January 04, 2026, 01:35:53 AMWell, even if 1/72 airliners are a bust,  there's sizeable and, lucrative 1/144 market out there.
One which I'm surprised Airfix hasn't made any attempt to tap into.

Or at least a recent attempt
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Beermonster58

Quote from: scautomoton on January 04, 2026, 02:40:20 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on January 04, 2026, 01:35:53 AMWell, even if 1/72 airliners are a bust,  there's sizeable and, lucrative 1/144 market out there.
One which I'm surprised Airfix hasn't made any attempt to tap into.

Or at least a recent attempt
Fair comment 🙂. Airfix's statement a few years back that they wouldn't be producing any new kits, airliners included in 1/144 was, in my opinion, very shortsighted
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Beermonster58 on January 04, 2026, 03:29:27 AMFair comment 🙂. Airfix's statement a few years back that they wouldn't be producing any new kits, airliners included in 1/144 was, in my opinion, very shortsighted


Meanwhile Revell are raking in the 1/144 airliner market and making some REALLY good stuff.

But they STILL try and get you to glue the nosewheel legs in place before you join the two fuselage halves!  :banghead: 

That's SO stupid, it's a recipe for a busted leg when you do all the PSR, primer spraying and final paint, let alone decalling. I spend lots of time modifying the kits so I can add the nosewheel legs at the same time as the mainwheels, i. last!

I've mentioned this stupidity to the Revell reps at Telford year after year, but they just never take any notice, and it's not as if it's that difficult to change the design to add the leg later either.  :banghead:  :banghead:
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

The Rat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 04, 2026, 04:43:21 AMBut they STILL try and get you to glue the nosewheel legs in place before you join the two fuselage halves!  :banghead:

Airfix did the same thing with their P-80, which allows it to be rotated into the nosewheel bay. But none of the other landing gear components are retractable, which makes it a wasted exercise. Maybe they did it so that you could rotate the nosewheel out of the way during the rest of the construction, but it begs the question: why do it at all?  :o
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Beermonster58

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 04, 2026, 04:43:21 AM
Quote from: Beermonster58 on January 04, 2026, 03:29:27 AMFair comment 🙂. Airfix's statement a few years back that they wouldn't be producing any new kits, airliners included in 1/144 was, in my opinion, very shortsighted


Meanwhile Revell are raking in the 1/144 airliner market and making some REALLY good stuff.

But they STILL try and get you to glue the nosewheel legs in place before you join the two fuselage halves!  :banghead: 

That's SO stupid, it's a recipe for a busted leg when you do all the PSR, primer spraying and final paint, let alone decalling. I spend lots of time modifying the kits so I can add the nosewheel legs at the same time as the mainwheels, i. last!

I've mentioned this stupidity to the Revell reps at Telford year after year, but they just never take any notice, and it's not as if it's that difficult to change the design to add the leg later either.  :banghead:  :banghead:
Well, I never bother priming models and , I've found that with the Revell airliners I've built, the fit is generally excellent so, no need for filler etc 😉👍.
However, I take the point. I always leave the undercarriage off till last and, It's not really that, difficult to modify the kits accordingly but, it's a nuisance easily avoided with a little kit design adjustment

While not generally a big 1/144 modeller, its a very practical scale for large aircraft and, being a practical guy, I will happily indulge for a subject that interests me.

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