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The Hawker Beechcraft Dragon MRA1, the Nimrod's replacement- Resurrected!

Started by PR19_Kit, June 07, 2025, 05:08:58 AM

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Rick Lowe

Quote from: jcf on October 25, 2025, 04:59:39 PMI've found that plain old water often works as a cyanoacrylate glue  accelerator.
YMMV

True - it was originally developed as a surgical glue, so water/fluids were always meant to help it set.

Old Wombat

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 25, 2025, 05:25:14 PM
Quote from: jcf on October 25, 2025, 04:59:39 PMI've found that plain old water often works as a cyanoacrylate glue  accelerator.
YMMV

True - it was originally developed as a surgical glue, so water/fluids were always meant to help it set.

Skin oils/perspiration are the fastest accelerator I know of. Don't ask!  :rolleyes:

Most of you probably know why, anyway.  ;)
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

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veritas ad mortus veritas est


zenrat

Quote from: Old Wombat on October 26, 2025, 01:02:04 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 25, 2025, 05:25:14 PM
Quote from: jcf on October 25, 2025, 04:59:39 PMI've found that plain old water often works as a cyanoacrylate glue  accelerator.
YMMV

True - it was originally developed as a surgical glue, so water/fluids were always meant to help it set.

Skin oils/perspiration are the fastest accelerator I know of. Don't ask!  :rolleyes:

Most of you probably know why, anyway.  ;)

Saliva is pretty quick if you are holding the lid in your mouth, and miss it.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.


zenrat

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

McColm

I guess that you will be using the Airfix kit with additional parts for the Hawker Beechcraft Dragon MRA.1+.

PR19_Kit

No, I have the Matchbox HS125-600 kit in The Loft, which is a) longer and b) doesn't have the 'bump' over the canopy that the Dominie has. the -600 would make more sense as an MR aircraft, if only because it has more space inside. I'll use the U-125A's engines, and the under belly radar 'bump', and may well use the canopy as well, if I can get it to fit. Plus the long radar nose too.

Sadly the little IR sensor under the nose is long gone, but maybe I can scratch another one from a surplus missile or two.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

McColm

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 26, 2025, 07:19:46 AMNo, I have the Matchbox HS125-600 kit in The Loft, which is a) longer and b) doesn't have the 'bump' over the canopy that the Dominie has. the -600 would make more sense as an MR aircraft, if only because it has more space inside. I'll use the U-125A's engines, and the under belly radar 'bump', and may well use the canopy as well, if I can get it to fit. Plus the long radar nose too.

Sadly the little IR sensor under the nose is long gone, but maybe I can scratch another one from a surplus missile or two.
So the idea isn't DEAD, just having a rest.

PR19_Kit

Exactly, I said that right after I scrapped the Dragon MR1.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Charlie_c67

Is it the one with Red plastic? I've heard some horror stories about trying to paint it  :-X
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

PR19_Kit

No, it was pale grey, and was OK to start with, but the primer I first used was total rubbish and took WEEKS to strip off, and I think that process wrecked the model eventually.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Charlie_c67

"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Having got home y'day I saut the M'box HS 125-600 I knew I had, and found it amazingly.

And yes, it has got RED wings!

I can live with that, nothing that a good coat of grey primer can't sort out. It's a tad longer than the U-125A that the Sword kit depicts, but it's basically the same aeroplane so all the scrapped bits I saved from the original build seem to fit OK. And that includes the rather more swept windscreen that I rather liked from the original idea. It'll need some serious plastic engineering to include all the extra bits and pieces, but it's just a matter of plodding on.

So the Dragon still lives!  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit