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The Hawker Beechcraft Dragon MRA1, the Nimrod's replacement- Resurrected!

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63cpe

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 23, 2025, 12:23:17 AMKit, have you heard the idea of using accelerator applied directly via a cotton bud (or allowed to run onto the glued area), rather than spraying it?
Or is it the fumes as such that cause a reaction? You probably already thought of it, but might a mask help?

Just a few stray thoughts.

I'm using two different CA accelerator, both from Flex I File: the very thin glass straw (711) and that aluminium handle  & metal tip thingy (805). Never used the spray, seems to me it's dangerous for health.

David aka 63CPE

zenrat

So, the dragon fell to the sword...

Sorry to read this Kit.  But it frees you up to work on something else.  Got any good car model ideas?   :wacko:  :wacko:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on October 23, 2025, 02:48:29 AMSorry to read this Kit.  But it frees you up to work on something else.  Got any good car model ideas?   :wacko:  :wacko:


Funny you should say that Fred.............  ;)  ;D

As for accelerator, just the SMELL of it sets my lungs off, so I've always steered clear of it. I've never heard of those Flex-i-file gadgets before David, but they may be worth while looking at, thanks. Where did you get them from?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

63cpe

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 23, 2025, 03:46:43 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 23, 2025, 02:48:29 AMSorry to read this Kit.  But it frees you up to work on something else.  Got any good car model ideas?   :wacko:  :wacko:


Funny you should say that Fred.............  ;)  ;D

As for accelerator, just the SMELL of it sets my lungs off, so I've always steered clear of it. I've never heard of those Flex-i-file gadgets before David, but they may be worth while looking at, thanks. Where did you get them from?

The touch-n-flow (711) might be the most interesting to you. Here a video om how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPmlLmrYcOU

There are sets available with the touch-n-flow, solvent and squeeze bottle ( set 7000) but maybe you need the touch-n-flow only. They are available here: https://www.emodels.co.uk/flex-i-file-touch-n-flow-applicator-711.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqiIO7BHXAK5-6P6Jcsr1HnsH_3etzFbRaSoFH1kP4mlXFQcl9G

But I guess there available via your preferred local hobby shops aswell.
As the touch-n-flow are very thin needles they clog up easily..

Cheers,
David aka 63CPE

PR19_Kit

Very aptly, my mate Pete found this today, and it couldn't be more suitable for posting here.  ;D

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Supertom

That's unfortunate Kit. Have you tried Faller Super Expert? It's hotter than Revell Contacta, I believe. I've even been able to bond two painted items together. https://www.faller.de/en/model-layout-construction/tools-utilities/11773/super-expert-plastic-glue-25-g-de-fr I've also started using Tamiya Cement (white cap), and I've had pretty good luck with that. https://www.tamiya.com/english/products/87003/index.html
"We can resolve this over tea and fisticuffs!!!"

Rick Lowe

I have also heard, and experimented with, using Tamiya Airbrush Thinner as a cement - it's almost the same formulation* as their cement, but cheaper.
It seemed to work well when I tried it, but as I have a lot of Humbrol left, it's a way away from being needed as yet.

*Cement 51-49%, Airbrush Thinner 49-51% split of the same ingredients... :rolleyes:

PR19_Kit

I've never seen Faller cement in the UK, ever. Might be worth a try if I can find some though.

And my lungs don't get on with much of Tamiya's stuff so I tend to steer clear of it always.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

scooter

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 23, 2025, 12:19:03 PMI've never seen Faller cement in the UK, ever. Might be worth a try if I can find some though.

And my lungs don't get on with much of Tamiya's stuff so I tend to steer clear of it always.
Check your local(ish) Hobbycraft.  At least that's what Google tells me.
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: scooter on October 23, 2025, 03:20:52 PMCheck your local(ish) Hobbycraft.  At least that's what Google tells me.


Not around here, they only have Humbrol, Revell and Tamiya stuff. Faller would be wildly exotic for them!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rick Lowe

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 23, 2025, 12:19:03 PMI've never seen Faller cement in the UK, ever. Might be worth a try if I can find some though.

And my lungs don't get on with much of Tamiya's stuff so I tend to steer clear of it always.

Ah, then that's not much help to you. 'Sorry 'bout that, Chief!' :-/

McColm

Why not set a scene as a crashed aircraft or crashed landing? Then the parts that have fallen off or you can't glue on can be scattered around the wrecked model.

PR19_Kit

Because I'll use some of the parts from the original Dragon model to build the 'New Dragon', and the rest of it is already in the bin!  :angry:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

McColm

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 25, 2025, 12:46:12 AMBecause I'll use some of the parts from the original Dragon model to build the 'New Dragon', and the rest of it is already in the bin!  :angry:
Could of saved it for bonfire night!

jcf

I've found that plain old water often works as a cyanoacrylate glue  accelerator.
YMMV