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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2019, 01:22:32 am »
Rotodynes have wings, but the primary means of generating lift is not by the forward motion of the vehicle through the air.

Ekranoplans have wings, but their dependence upon ground effect to augment the lift of their wings makes them unconventional.

Ornithopters have wings, but the primary means of generating lift is not by the forward motion of the vehicle through the air.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2019, 01:35:30 am »
My point is that we shouldn't limit this by trying to define it.
Treat the rules as vague guidelines and let anything be entered should the mods deem it unconventional.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2019, 02:16:08 am »
Quote from: zenrat on February 26, 2019, 01:35:30 am
My point is that we shouldn't limit this by trying to define it.
Treat the rules as vague guidelines and let anything be entered should the mods deem it unconventional.

Well indeed. My previous post was intended to demonstrate how the rules are written in such a way as to make all the intended forms, and many others beside, permissable.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2019, 03:29:07 am »
Quote from: Weaver on February 25, 2019, 04:11:42 am
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2019, 08:00:36 am »
Quote from: zenrat on February 26, 2019, 01:35:30 am
My point is that we shouldn't limit this by trying to define it.
Treat the rules as vague guidelines and let anything be entered should the mods deem it unconventional.

That's certainly my interpretation. Basically me and Kit will consider every proposal on an individual basis.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2019, 10:40:56 am »
Someone once said 'Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of Whiffers' and that certainly holds true for this GB.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2019, 11:35:31 am »
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2019, 11:36:51 am »
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 26, 2019, 10:40:56 am
Someone once said 'Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of Whiffers' and that certainly holds true for this GB.

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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2019, 11:56:17 am »


Airships.  Captain Shakespeare's ride from Stardust.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2019, 12:03:40 pm »
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on February 26, 2019, 11:35:31 am
Iowa State Lippisch collection, scroll down for aerodynes:
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I lifted this from the Unicraft site many years ago:

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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2019, 02:10:46 am »



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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2019, 10:58:45 am »
Why did I get a Bond stunt in mind when I first read the title?!  ;D

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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2019, 01:57:56 am »
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They'd just CGI that these days.  Which is a shame.

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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2019, 02:05:01 am »
Quote from: zenrat on February 28, 2019, 01:57:56 am
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They'd just CGI that these days.  Which is a shame.

Or they'd do it 'for real' but with the car on a big, strong track and then CGI the track out. That's how they do a lot of 'flying people' scene these days: the actor look like they're flying and gets to interact credibly with their surroundings, but they're on an inch-thick cable that's never going to break, rather than the thin, fragile 'invisible' flying lines that were used in the 'good' old days.
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Re: The Flying Machines of Unconventional Means GB - Discussion
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2019, 02:21:31 am »
Anyone got the Airfix 1/24 Little Nelly kit?  That'd make a good build for this GB - if suitably whiffed of course.
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