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Petlyakov Pe-8

Started by zenrat, April 03, 2026, 02:33:51 AM

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zenrat

Pe-8 WIP 24-04-26 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

Inner nacelles carry engines, all the cooling, the undercarriage, and the gunners.  Outer nacelles just contain engines.
Next stage is the wings.

Fred

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PR19_Kit

Those are complex looking nacelles!  :o
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zenrat

Could be some tricky PSR in my future if Zvezda's tolerances are not up to scratch.

I haven't dry fitted them yet.  We'll see how it all goes.
Fred

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Gondor

Interesting. I have not seen one of these built.
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sandiego89

Quote from: Gondor on April 26, 2026, 09:15:35 AMInteresting. I have not seen one of these built.

Me either.  Those poor gunners. 

Great obscure subject. 
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frank2056

From the size of the gunners, this is going to be a big plane in 1/72.

The Pe-8 was an effective way of removing Russian aircrew from service: Wikipedia: "The loss of Pe-8s to all causes—mechanical, combat, friendly fire—had steadily increased from one aircraft per 103 flights in 1942 to one per 46 sorties in 1944."

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zenrat

Quote from: frank2056 on April 26, 2026, 06:15:39 PMFrom the size of the gunners, this is going to be a big plane in 1/72.

The Pe-8 was an effective way of removing Russian aircrew from service: Wikipedia: "The loss of Pe-8s to all causes—mechanical, combat, friendly fire—had steadily increased from one aircraft per 103 flights in 1942 to one per 46 sorties in 1944."

As a matter of interest, what are the equivalent figures for RAF Bomber Command during the same time period?

It is big.  It is certainly going to need space in the big display case.  Assuming scale fidelity the fuselage has a bigger cross section than a B-17.

I glued one wing today.
Pe-8 WIP27-04-26 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

Quote from: sandiego89 on April 26, 2026, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: Gondor on April 26, 2026, 09:15:35 AMInteresting. I have not seen one of these built.

Me either.  Those poor gunners. 

Great obscure subject. 

Only 93 built IRL.
Fred

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frank2056

From the net: "RAF Bomber Command suffered a ~2.2% to 2.3% aircraft loss rate per sortie over the entire war. This equates to over 55,500 personnel killed out of 125,000 aircrew (a 44% death rate), one of the highest among Allied forces. Losses were higher in specific campaigns, such as 5.1% between November 1943 and March 1944"

So higher - but the Bomber Command was attacking much heavier defended targets. Still, sobering losses.

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The Pe-8 project originated at Tupolev in 1934 and was originally designated ANT-42/TB-7.
Petlyakov's design team continued to develop and refine the design, despite being arrested
in 1937 along with Tupolev and all of the leadership of TsAGI, and it went into production in
1939 as the Pe-8. Inter alia he and his team designed the Pe-2 while in an NKVD R & D
"laboratory", a slide-rule gulag.

zenrat

Second wing glued today.
Fred

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Fred

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zenrat

Is this really a Zvezda kit?  I'm putting together the interior and it's got a Takom feel about its parts breakdown.  Is it really necessary to have the seat legs separate from the seats?


Fred

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NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on May 10, 2026, 03:49:46 AMIs it really necessary to have the seat legs separate from the seats?


ntentionaly one assumes  ? :angel:  There was another manufacturer who came out with a Pe-8 many, many years ago. I can remember seeing it in numerace adverts. A Model I think.
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