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DONE @ p.8 +++ Saab J31B, Flygvapnet F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, late Fifties

Started by Dizzyfugu, September 06, 2025, 02:56:47 AM

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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: Gondor on September 08, 2025, 09:46:02 AMI may have a BAC 1-11 that I could donate to the cause, if you're interested Dizzy.

Thanks a lot for the offer - I wait for the B-47 to arrive, I have high hopes in its wings, but will call if I need assiatance. Problem is that postage has become dizzyingly expensive, so that international parts/material exchange is severely hampered.  :-\

Besides, a few updates, even though not much hardware work has been done. First of all, a look into the WiP cockpit - seats are still on the work bench, and the dahsboard needs some fine tuning, but it looks comfy, esp. in the new greyish green. the white-on-black instruments date back from an older creative phase of mine, but I retained them, because they also match well with the Tornado dashboard style. And later, thorugh the canopy, things will hardly be recognizable, anyway.


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

And there's a recent pic of the engine pods, after some serious PSR sessions:


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

"We get there", but until I have found suitable wings there will hardly be more progress. In the meantime I have been worring on the tandem landing gear, and this looks promising - forgot to take a WiP pic with the intended nose-up stance, but will post it later.

Dizzyfugu

Hello, little news to show. First, the cockpit is about to be populated and closed. The crew consists of a pair of ugly vintage pilot figures that found a new home in the J31; only dry-fitted yet, they will receive a coat of matt varnish, too:


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

And here's a look at the intended stance on the ground:


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Under the tail the cavity for the arrester hook has been PSRed away, gun ports have been drilled open, and I will add a ventral display adapter for eventual flight scenes later, too.

Dizzyfugu

Good news! The vintage Revell B-47 kit arrived, and the gamble on its wings paid out! They are all I need, with the benefit that I will use/recycle their tips as stabilizers.  :lol:
Here's a look at the planned cuts to reduce span (someone pls. re-animate Kit at this point... :rolleyes: ) and sweep angle, and the planned place for the undersulng engines:


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

After trimming things down we got this, with a 20° sweep back.


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

With these, the wings' new shoulder position on the F3D fuselage could be defined - there will be cutouts to hold them:


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Start of the next PSR mess: blending the nacelles under/into the swepts wings:


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr


1:72 SAAB J31B 'Val'; 'Blue T/Blå Tore (s/n 31014)' of the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) F1 Västmanland Flygflottilj, 2nd Squadron; Hässlö AB, Västerås (Central Sweden), 1956 (What-if/kitbashing) - WiP
by Dizzyfugu, on Flickr

However, as can be expected, the detail and esp. the fit of the B-47 wing parts is ...poor. The whole upper surface had to be treated/levelled up with putty, the engraved lines for the flaps etc. is utterly soft and shallow, I think that I will also have to do some re-engraving work, at least for the ailerons, flaps and slats on the outer wing sections.  :unsure:  However, we are moving again, into the right direction.

PR19_Kit

Good heavens, I must have eaten  something that didn't suit me, I've just come over all faint..................  :-\

That's looking more and more Vautour-like in the wings as you go on Thomas.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Pellson

Agreeing with Kit here. It's more and more looking like a side-by-side Vautour. That is however not necessarily a bad thing.

I've started looking more in depth at the Il-28 wings and engine pods, and how close they actually are to that jet B18 sketch. Basically, a Canberra B(I).8 fuselage, Il-28 wings and something unexpected in the back, and we'll be there. And I just might have all the parts needed.
Another project idea in the already too long queue, then..   :rolleyes:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Dizzyfugu

Yes, it's like a fat Vautour, but only superficially. The initial Yak-25 a/w fighter is another "benchmark" - all from the same era, when engine and aerodynamic technology apparently dictated much of an aircraft's layout in this weight/size class.  ;)

Dizzyfugu

Nothing new to show yet, PSR around the engines is still in progress.


NARSES2

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on September 12, 2025, 11:53:10 PMThe span appears a bit wide (Kit will probably like that?  ;) ), but I will leave it that way.


It's impossible to have the span '....a bit too wide......;!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Dizzyfugu

Unfortunately not much progress here, despite some efforts. Mostly more PSR all over the hull before I might turn to details like land gear covers, the planned outrigger wheels under/in the engine pods, and underwing hardpoints plus drop tanks.

However, my dad is in hospital, serious issue. He had an intestinal operation and now even pneumonia, and this ...distracts.

zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 13, 2025, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on September 12, 2025, 11:53:10 PMThe span appears a bit wide (Kit will probably like that?  ;) ), but I will leave it that way.


It's impossible to have the span '....a bit too wide......;!

I'm tempted to try and build something to prove you wrong... :wacko:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptyism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

Old Wombat

Quote from: zenrat on September 16, 2025, 03:57:52 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 13, 2025, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on September 12, 2025, 11:53:10 PMThe span appears a bit wide (Kit will probably like that?  ;) ), but I will leave it that way.


It's impossible to have the span '....a bit too wide......;!

I'm tempted to try and build something to prove you wrong... :wacko:

You may convince the rest of us but you'll never shake Kit's Belief in his Faith!  ;D  ;D
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

PR19_Kit

Somewhere I have a 1/32 Revell kit of a Duo Discus sailplane (mainly because I flew one once.....) and that has some SERIOUSLY long wings! Specially if I use them to Whiff something else in 1/72.  :wacko:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Old Wombat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 16, 2025, 05:09:22 AMSomewhere I have a 1/32 Revell kit of a Duo Discus sailplane (mainly because I flew one once.....) and that has some SERIOUSLY long wings! Specially if I use them to Whiff something else in 1/72.  :wacko:

A Wellesley?  :unsure:  ;)
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est