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What modelling projects do you think you'll never build or see?

Started by Weaver, June 16, 2025, 06:24:49 AM

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Diamondback

F-16XL, "xXx GTO" edition. Mainly for the lack of a decent and affordable XL-2 kit.

Imagine XL-2 in the middle of a hangar with the best pieces of every other F-16 variant scattered on the floor and a Vin Diesel wannabe pilot telling the mechanics "I want all of THAT... in HERE." Motorizing Atlantis B-36s is gonna be a nightmare as it is without even attempting the surgery that Frankenviper would require...

Same story with a VEP EA-6B as "FrankenProwler II: Bigger, Louder, More Teeth."

Weaver

Quote from: jcf on June 21, 2025, 01:16:38 PMPlaza Japan shows this set coming from Tomytec/Komono in August.
Japanese N (1/150).
Tomytec Motorcycles
Use the little four-wheeler for the marshalls?

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Those look useful, cheers. :thumbsup:

That shows up one of the few bright spots, which is police bikes. You can get things like the German Police BMW R100RS which can be repainted and slightly modded (panniers) as civvie bikes. Still not enough variety of types though.


QuoteUse the little four-wheeler for the marshalls?

They'd never get anything done: half the bikers would be trying to buy ice cream from them... :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:

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steelpillow

In broadly historical order:
  • Armstrong Whithworth-Dunne D.11, developed as whiffy two-seat basic trainer and/or D.11a artillery spotter.
  • 1:8 scale aero engines, from the Antoinette 8V to the Napier Sabre.
  • Curtiss patent 6-engined tailless triplane flying boat to the Dunne pattern (and the only bit to whiff up is the livery!)
  • Giant flying-wing flying boat, for which several designs were touted throughout the 1930s.
  • Smaug with wingspan around 1ft (30 cm).
  • 1:24 scale Lambo Miura 400 with detailed engine as well as opening bonnet, doors, etc.
  • 1:8 scale Lady Gaga in her flying dress.
  • Ken Steacy's Tempus Fugitive Barnes-Wallis-Swallow-style fighter.
I could go on...
Cheers.

DogfighterZen

Quote from: Diamondback on June 21, 2025, 04:29:15 PMF-16XL, "xXx GTO" edition. Mainly for the lack of a decent and affordable XL-2 kit.

Imagine XL-2 in the middle of a hangar with the best pieces of every other F-16 variant scattered on the floor and a Vin Diesel wannabe pilot telling the mechanics "I want all of THAT... in HERE."

I agree they're not the cheapest kits out there but the Kinetic 1/48 Twin seat XL is a pretty good kit... as is the Lone star resin conversion set in 1/72.
And i'm pretty certain that a modern and decent kit of the XL would not be the cheapest in 1/72, even if it was a brand like Italeri or Revell making it.
For example, look at the price of Revell's recent 1/72 F-15E or the small AMX, also a new tool kit and can be found selling for around 30/35€ and i don't believe a new tool 1/72 F-16XL would be cheaper than that. Obviously, it would definitely be cheaper than the 1/48 Kinetic kit but definitely not the cheapest thing.
Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have a modern 1/72 injection molded styrene kit of the XL, single or twin seat.
One that i don't think we'll ever see is a styrene kit of the fully developed F-23. Italeri's 1/72 YF-23 and Kinetic's 1/48 kits need a lot of work to convert into the F-23 and although i've seen a few attempts, none ever got really close to what the real thing was supposed to be like.
Besides, the Italeri kit, has been OOP for a long time and i don't think we'll see that one again, be it inside an Italeri or Tamiya or Revell box. There is the 1/72 Dragon kit but that one is even more inaccurate than the Italeri kit.
Guess we'll just have to keep wishing and waiting... :rolleyes:
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Diamondback

And non-WHIF: A Type P or Q Zeppelin. My friend who used to make them for Wings of War gamers has been forced to retire due to developing an allergy to cyanoacrylate, and his Zeps required an ungodly amount of the stuff as the very FIRST step in construction bonding the foam blocks he carved their envelopes from.

Rick Lowe

Would something like foaming Gorilla glue, or silicon glue be a viable option for him?

Diamondback

Quote from: Rick Lowe on June 22, 2025, 10:15:45 PMWould something like foaming Gorilla glue, or silicon glue be a viable option for him?
I'll pass the suggestion along, but I suspect other age-related issues are in the mix too.

zenrat

Quote from: Diamondback on June 22, 2025, 04:56:19 PMAnd non-WHIF: A Type P or Q Zeppelin. My friend who used to make them for Wings of War gamers has been forced to retire due to developing an allergy to cyanoacrylate, and his Zeps required an ungodly amount of the stuff as the very FIRST step in construction bonding the foam blocks he carved their envelopes from.

How big were these?
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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scooter

Quote from: zenrat on June 23, 2025, 05:56:21 AM
Quote from: Diamondback on June 22, 2025, 04:56:19 PMAnd non-WHIF: A Type P or Q Zeppelin. My friend who used to make them for Wings of War gamers has been forced to retire due to developing an allergy to cyanoacrylate, and his Zeps required an ungodly amount of the stuff as the very FIRST step in construction bonding the foam blocks he carved their envelopes from.

How big were these?

P Class 163.5 meters long x 18.69m diameter

Wiki says the Q class were 15m longer.
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Diamondback

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 23, 2025, 07:22:25 AMHow big were the MODELS?  :o
1/200 scale, so about 32" OAL. Undersized relative to our 1/144 biplanes but STILL a nightmare to handle on a gametable and normally only usable at large convention events.

zenrat

Quote from: Diamondback on June 23, 2025, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 23, 2025, 07:22:25 AMHow big were the MODELS?  :o
1/200 scale, so about 32" OAL. Undersized relative to our 1/144 biplanes but STILL a nightmare to handle on a gametable and normally only usable at large convention events.

Yikes.
Bigger than I expected.


Quote from: scooter on June 23, 2025, 06:05:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 23, 2025, 05:56:21 AM
Quote from: Diamondback on June 22, 2025, 04:56:19 PMAnd non-WHIF: A Type P or Q Zeppelin. My friend who used to make them for Wings of War gamers has been forced to retire due to developing an allergy to cyanoacrylate, and his Zeps required an ungodly amount of the stuff as the very FIRST step in construction bonding the foam blocks he carved their envelopes from.

How big were these?

P Class 163.5 meters long x 18.69m diameter

Wiki says the Q class were 15m longer.

Thank you Scoot.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Pellson

Quote from: Gondor on June 18, 2025, 09:26:31 AMWhat modelling projects do you think you'll never build or see?

Probably 90+% of my stash  :-\

Reading up on threads I've missed, the above definitely applies to me and my StashTM as well. It doesn't seem that such an insight has any impact whatsoever on the procurement side of my hobby, though..  :o
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Diamondback

Quote from: zenrat on June 24, 2025, 05:32:15 AM
Quote from: Diamondback on June 23, 2025, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 23, 2025, 07:22:25 AMHow big were the MODELS?  :o
1/200 scale, so about 32" OAL. Undersized relative to our 1/144 biplanes but STILL a nightmare to handle on a gametable and normally only usable at large convention events.

Yikes.
Bigger than I expected.
Quote from: scooter on June 23, 2025, 06:05:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 23, 2025, 05:56:21 AMHow big were these?

P Class 163.5 meters long x 18.69m diameter

Wiki says the Q class were 15m longer.

Thank you Scoot.

IIRC to turn a P into a Q fullsize, you cut the girders where the nose and tail ogives meet the center "cylinder" then splice in a full 10m gas-cell at the rear and a 5m half-size cell at the front.

Rheged

Quote from: Diamondback on June 24, 2025, 09:14:09 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 24, 2025, 05:32:15 AM
Quote from: Diamondback on June 23, 2025, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 23, 2025, 07:22:25 AMHow big were the MODELS?  :o
1/200 scale, so about 32" OAL. Undersized relative to our 1/144 biplanes but STILL a nightmare to handle on a gametable and normally only usable at large convention events.

Yikes.
Bigger than I expected.
Quote from: scooter on June 23, 2025, 06:05:36 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 23, 2025, 05:56:21 AMHow big were these?

P Class 163.5 meters long x 18.69m diameter

Wiki says the Q class were 15m longer.

Thank you Scoot.

IIRC to turn a P into a Q fullsize, you cut the girders where the nose and tail ogives meet the center "cylinder" then splice in a full 10m gas-cell at the rear and a 5m half-size cell at the front.

Thank you for this , Harold. It's  useful  information, and knowledge gained is never time wasted,  but I'm sure you will appreciate that this is not a feat of engineering I'm likely to attempt in the near future.
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