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Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« on: July 30, 2019, 05:50:28 am »
I have  an old revell boxed frog shackleton mr3  in the stash  which I was going to  re-engine and  use it as a Honduras navy  patrol aircraft.  But... I have other plans  for  this one now.  In my new book of the RAF during the cold war,  they were being used as  patrol aircraft  along with  Malaysian/ Indonesian borders  during  1964, so perhaps  a counter insurgency  bomber/patrol  aircraft.  My version doesn't have the  20 mm hispano cannons , which  I would have preferred it to have,  so alternative guns will have to be sourced.  Under the wings I was  thinking of rockets and possibly a  pair of Bullpup missiles as they were available  during that time period.  My other  version I was thinking of was a  flying  test  bed for  new and developing British  air to air and air to ground  weapons  of the 1960's . The counter insurgency aircraft  will get the  grey green over light grey  camouflage,  like the victors were painted.  They also  got  used during the same  conflict.  Weapons of that era I will need to look in to also,  as my books are a bit  sparse  on that info.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2019, 06:05:23 am »
I like the idea of an armed counter insurgency Shack'
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 06:28:17 am »
A Shackleton gunship with miniguns in tghe flanks...? Why not? Could also have circled over the Falkland Islands and suppressed local groudn resistance during landing or SAR operations?

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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2019, 08:18:28 am »
It's about time those Master guys in Poland did some of turned brass 20 mm cannons for Shacks, I could use a few pairs on my Northrop Northampton.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2019, 09:03:27 am »
Keep your eyes open at shows. When the new Airfix & Revell Shacks came out, a lot of folk dumped their old Revellofrog kits and the aftermarket bits they had. I picked up an Aeroclub Mk.3 - Mk.2 conversion for just 2. Turrets, guns, AEW radome, undercarriage, wheels: a lot of stuff for 2.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2019, 09:29:27 am »
Keep your eyes open at shows. When the new Airfix & Revell Shacks came out, a lot of folk dumped their old Revellofrog kits and the aftermarket bits they had. I picked up an Aeroclub Mk.3 - Mk.2 conversion for just 2. Turrets, guns, AEW radome, undercarriage, wheels: a lot of stuff for 2.
I could  do with  some  of the  cannons for the front of this one I  have,   could  have a  go at making some  but  I  think I will  struggle  to get  them right.  Were SNEB pods in service  around the mid sixties  as I have a  few  spare  of those,  or would  individual  rockets  be more fitting. I  have  somewhere a gun pod that came with a  Canberra,  but  looking  at where the nose gear, and  weapons bay are, I  think  I will  struggle with  fitting it.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2019, 09:43:27 am »
How about rocket racks on each side of the nose like they fitted to B-24s and B-25s?

That'd be pretty ferocious.  ;D
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2019, 12:22:32 pm »
I have not seen or heard of that before  Kit, I  will have to  look  that up.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2019, 12:37:29 pm »
Like this Chris, Pavla does/did a conversion of it.



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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 01:16:30 pm »
Cheers  Robert,
I take it  they  put them  there for accuracy,  or just  to keep out of the  propellers.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2019, 03:12:48 pm »
Not sure Chris
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2019, 03:55:55 pm »
Shackleton MR2s were plumbed in for underwing zero length rockets.  The attachment points are on both the Revell and Airfix kits.

The Frog kit never came with nose guns, despite being on the box.
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2019, 05:43:59 pm »
The attachment points are on both the Revell and Airfix kits.

Hmmm!   so they are --- interesting
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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2019, 09:38:40 am »
You could go down the Nene testbed route as the pods fitted very well under the Shackleton wings.
A cargo/freighter works as well,  I've gone down the civilian airliner route with a pair of turbofan engines.
The Shackleton does make a good platform for the Grumman E-1 and E-2 radomes.
I even built a twin boom-twin fin version once.
I think a firefighter variant would work as well.

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Re: Others uses for an Avro shackleton.
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2019, 09:57:22 am »
You could go down the Nene testbed route as the pods fitted very well under the Shackleton wings.
A cargo/freighter works as well,  I've gone down the civilian airliner route with a pair of turbofan engines.
The Shackleton does make a good platform for the Grumman E-1 and E-2 radomes.
I even built a twin boom-twin fin version once.
I think a firefighter variant would work as well.
Some  good  ideas there, I  shall consider them.
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