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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #765 on: October 06, 2019, 09:26:49 am »
The sanding continues....
Those 3D printed parts printed in PLA are really a pain to sand, takes quite long until you see na effect. But i think the end of putty&sanding is near here.



Now printed some engines for the L2049. No, I will not use all six of them (well, who knows, maybe...), but printing with an SLA printer has the nice effect that printing time is only depending on the height of an object. So printing 2, 4, ,6 or eight besides each other takes the same time, just more material. Therefore I always print more than I need, just to have some spare parts if one did not print good at all.



That looks great! Evokes all sorts of creative thinking.
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #766 on: October 07, 2019, 12:57:26 am »
This is looking promising, but the single Connie fin looks a bit lost?  :o

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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #767 on: October 13, 2019, 01:21:52 am »
The jet engines are now added to the wings. 4 of them are enough :)




But because of then, I cannot use the original landing gear of the Caravelle, it is too short (the one of the L1049 does not fit under the wings at all). So I have to make a new one.

First tests are printed and I will continue in this direction.

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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #768 on: October 13, 2019, 03:02:02 am »
Nice silhouette, unusual :thumbsup:
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #769 on: October 13, 2019, 06:57:27 am »
I think you'll need a little bit more rudder.
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #770 on: October 20, 2019, 03:15:50 am »
I think you'll need a little bit more rudder.

As salt6 pointed out, the rudder was too small. So I am working on a bigger one. Which basically a scaled up version of the original one. A first testprint was made, now i can make the "real" one:



Besides this, the new landing gear is now made. The front one is the original of the L1049, the main gear is printed, the wheels are taken from the Caravelle kit:


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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #771 on: October 20, 2019, 03:55:33 am »
How strong and stable are 3d printed parts compared to injection moulded styrene or resin?
Resin will bend over time if there is weight on it (don't ask me how I know that) while injection moulded styrene is more stable.
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #772 on: October 20, 2019, 03:58:52 am »
the rudder was too small. So I am working on a bigger one. Which basically a scaled up version of the original one. A first testprint was made, now i can make the "real" one:
This is even better with the new fin. :thumbsup:
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #773 on: October 20, 2019, 04:24:59 am »
How strong and stable are 3d printed parts compared to injection moulded styrene or resin?
Resin will bend over time if there is weight on it (don't ask me how I know that) while injection moulded styrene is more stable.

A good question, I don't know. I guess FDM prints (PLA) and SLA prints (Resin) are quite different.

PLA is sensitive to temperature. at about 60°, its getting weak. I had one mount for a thermometer outside which got a lot of direct sun this summer. Its now completly bended. I have some other prints outside to see how they will react to sunlight, rain, snow etc over alonger time.

For the resin, I have no experience so far. The landing gear is made with the SLA printer, so I have to see if this will be a problem after some time.
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #774 on: October 20, 2019, 06:56:04 am »
How strong and stable are 3d printed parts compared to injection moulded styrene or resin?
Resin will bend over time if there is weight on it (don't ask me how I know that) while injection moulded styrene is more stable.

Interesting that, maybe it's why a few of the top end resin boys now mould their undercarriage parts in a different type/colour resin from the rest of the kit ?  I knew it was for added strength, but was not aware of the time issue.
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #775 on: October 21, 2019, 04:30:54 am »
ThePartsBox.com cast their resin hot rod front axles with a wire through the middle for strength.  They didn't used to and they would sag over time.
I had a 1/25 '29 Ford roadster which ended up with very cambered front wheels.
However, putting a block under the axle allowed them to drop back down again.
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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #776 on: October 21, 2019, 05:09:41 am »
Looking good,  I have tried adding turbofaned engines taken from two Matchbox A-10 to a Heller 1/72 Connie. It works so I will try it again in the future.

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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #777 on: October 21, 2019, 10:05:35 am »
Looking really nice with the larger fin. I glad you kept the original shape... the curviness of the whole affair is a large part of the appeal.
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« Reply #778 on: October 21, 2019, 10:22:15 am »
Looking really nice with the larger fin. I glad you kept the original shape... the curviness of the whole affair is a large part of the appeal.

Second that.  :thumbsup:

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Re: NöNöBärs's What-If Flugwerft (WIP: Lockheed L2049)
« Reply #779 on: October 21, 2019, 10:51:48 am »
The fin was taken form a 3D model of a Constallation. I removed the rest of the plane, scaled it in the size I wanted and printed it. Have to see if I can really use it or make a new print with the Resin printer.

And i will have to see what happens to the printed landing gear after a while. As I do not have this printer fro so long, there is no long-time experience for me with the prints.
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