The Sound and the Fury - Wooksta's Fury thread

[The Wooksta!]

"Right!"

Well, off into a rather cold loft...

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And the BSP drawing of P1030 looks to have the raised cockpit of the Fury. ...

It has happened that I've wondered how a Fury would look without the raised cockpit - with the almost straight back of the Tempest.

[Gondor]

After not as much searching as I feared, I found both my Gryphon and Sabre VII engined Fury's. Both have a PM Sea Fury to hang them from. Glad I have found them, now they can go back where I got them from for later. My only just started thread is HERE

[The Wooksta!]

"Well, what've you brought me this time?"

I found the box I was looking for and it didn't have the 72nd drawings I was after.  I did find the original copied from the original BSP Vol.3, so I can get it blown up next time I pop into town at the library.  The same box did have the Miranda drawings of the Martin Baker MB6, which I've been wanting for a while.  However, only one set matches the MB drawing in the revised BSP3.  The drawings were there for the P1027 but not the P.1030.  Hmmm.

[The Wooksta!]

"Oh, it's broken."

Something about the assembled Sabre cowling has been bugging me - actually, the airframe too.  I though I had the cut I the right place but it's too far forward by about 4mm on the fuselage.  This is due to the fact that I'd used the stub wing l/e on the Eagle cowl as the front of the wing, forgetting entirely that it's intended for a Tempest V wing without projections for oil coolers which the Sea Fury has.  I should have cut another 3-4mm further back, at the start of the fairing above the exhaust.  In this case, it's not too bad - better to cut too short than too far (it's easier to cut stuff off than put it back) - and easily fixed with some heavy sanding.

I'd measured the cowling wrong too, mixing 7 and eleven.  The radiators are 11mm wide, so the back of the cowl should be 11mm from the back of the exhausts to the firewall.  Ironically, the short cowl with the too long fuselage cancels itself out, but I'd rather both bits were correct, rather than fudged.

So, the second Tempest fuselage - planned as a potential master - is now a replacement cowling.

[The Wooksta!]

"And by the looks of it you failed them all."

Everything's seemed to have hit pause, but today I got a good deal further with the P.1032.  The leading edge radiators have been assembled after some work and fitted to the wing.  The filler is curing now.  I've addressed some of the sanding on the fuselage, but there's a lot more to come once the engine is glued in place and filler proper is applied.

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The decision to go with P1032 has been forced due to me bolloxing the Sabre cowling and having to do another.  That's going to take time and I want to get something else assembled, so's I can move onto something else on the revolving carousel of death. So 1032 it is, but I don't yet know if it'll be RAF or FAA, but FAA is more likely because  there's some colourful markings to hand and I'm *definitely* doing P.1030 in the next few weeks and that *will* be RAF.

There's definitely going to be a two seat P.1032, using the Special Hobby two seater, and I've already done the cuts to the fuselage.  But in the meantime, there's this Frankenstein creation:

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The original Hawker Furious is down to the fact I was playing with bits, had an "Oooh!" moment and made a model I really liked, so much so I did several more.  Having had cause to go into the loft to look for an errant Wyvern T3 - which I simply cannot find but I did find a second CMR Wyvern S4 I'd bought for an absolute pittance and forgot about - I looked in a Tempest spares box and found enough bits to cobble together an airframe.  I'll have to go back for more of the internals - fitting those is going to be...interesting - but I have enough to do a taped up mock up. 
The wings are yet to be chopped for the l/e rads, which I'll have to assemble from plastic card due to a serious shortage of Ventura bits, but you get the idea.  P1032 had a Sea Fury tail, this is getting a Tempest one for...reasons.  It's not navalised, I'm sort of tempted with India as a user and they wanted the Tempest tail for more control?  Or maybe it's just a Hawker demonstrator cobbled together on orders from the dead hand of the Ministry of Supply.  Don't change the model, because I already think it looks cool as it is just taped up, change the backstory.  The India one is nice, but I'd rather not use Silver on a hybridised airframe that'll largely be filler, on the grounds that nothing shows up errors more than an NMF finish.
I'll have to work around the canopy base, as this was the PM Baghdad Fury with the two canopies peculiar to Iraqi aircraft, but this is going to look awesome when done.

[Rick Lowe]

If it helps, a friend once mentioned he put a coat of varnish on first to make a uniform covering over all the different materials, then sprayed the silver...

FWIW.

[The Wooksta!]

" No, listen! We got a letter from the council! They're going to demolish the house tomorrow!"

I went back into the loft for some bits and then dragged out something that I'd never finished.  A pair of Furies.

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These date from twenty years ago, being converted from the PM kits, one being a Sea Fury, t'other a Baghdad Fury.  TBH, I can't remember why they got abandoned.  I do remember that they were redecalled at some point, but I must have used Modeldecal, because of the glue that turns brown with age.  I'd also used the wrong stuff with superglue, as it has a weird chemical reaction that seeps a liquid that blisters and dissolves paint - even Halfords primers and metallic.  Anyway, the decals were largely removed with tape, I chiseled out much of the superglue (the single seater was the hardest, oddly, as I'd planked over the spine holes on the 2 seater and then used superglue over the top, so dig underneath and pry it off) and then I got busy with a saw.

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The engines have been removed up to the firewall and the wings chopped to allow for leading edge radiators.  At this stage, I'm not sure if they'll get Eagles or Sabres, but the hard points for rockets had been drilled out - the RAF wanted the Fury to have Sabre as they could only see it in the ground attack role, whereas Hawker wanted Centaurus as there'd be less risk from ground fire.  One of each is quite likely, but the spines definitely need rebuilding.  I need to do some casting for Eagles anyway.

As regards Frankenstein...  Dave suggested modifying the fin to look more "Sea Fury", but I want to keep the Tempest fin because it looks distinctive.  I'm now leaning towards an RAF aircraft, but a maintenance airframe cobbled together by appendices at Halton or Cranfield.  No one ever does maintenance airframes...

[Rick Lowe]

I'm now leaning towards an RAF aircraft, but a maintenance airframe cobbled together by appendices at Halton or Cranfield.  No one ever does maintenance airframes...

Sounds like that's about to change... 

Interesting idea. 

[The Wooksta!]

"Why'd I do that?

The P.1032 is coming along nicely.

After sanding back all the filler for the radiators, I decided I wasn't happy and tore them off.  Cleaned them up, then put them back on.  I think the angle is about right...  They don't look much different, but I refilled and sanded them back earlier.  The engine got glued to the fuselage, I added some tape to protect the surface and started sanding it back so the engine blends in a bit better. 

I could have gone a bit further at the base, but got impatient and fitted the wing.  Looking good, but some big gaps.  Pah, that's what filler is for.  Glued wing in place and then liberally smeared filler on.

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I'm really happy with it so far.  There's just something about leading edge radiators that are just so cool.

The early Sea Fury F.X is about ready to be primed.  I fitted the panel that goes behind the cockpit and I just need to sand back the filler before putting some sponge in the cockpit 'ole. 

TBH, I dislike the Special Hobby kit, but it's the least worst to build - Frog and Trumpeter have folded wings, PM is just crude (more so than the Frog kit) and whilst the High Planes is pretty much bang on accurate, it's a hard one to build due to needing constant tweaks.  Looks fab when done though.  I never did finish a Special Hobby one, despite starting several.

The engine for Frankenstein has had the pouring lug cut off and I did something about various sink holes in the plastic.  That's going to be more long term, I think, largely because I want to make a start on the P.1030 when I get the drawings sorted.

[The Wooksta!]

"Neil, do you want to see a great new trick?"

Well, the 1032 is glued together and much of the fillers has been sanded back.

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The tape is there purely to protect the surface detail aft of the engine whilst I do all the heavy sanding around the engine.  Much of that is now sorted, but I'll know more once I've got some primer on.  Very happy with this so far.  It looks sleek and purposeful, more so than the Sabre Fury.  It'd definitely going RN now, so I'll add the rudder once the filler work around the tailplanes is sanded back.

The cockpit areas of the two chopped PM Furies have been planked and filler applied.

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This one is going to be an RAF 1032 for definite, largely to hide all the chop work so a dark scheme.  Malaya possibly, if I go that route I may use the nice squadron bars, rather than codes to distract the eye.  Ooh Shiny! works every time.  The leading edge rads will be scratched from plastic card, sanded more to shape once it's all glued in place.

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T'ther one.  Going Sabre, once I have the master for a mould sorted over the next few days - I'll order the rubber later.  Dark scheme again, possibly one of the Tempest units in Germany.

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Frankenstein has had some work done with scraps of plastic card to put in some basic cockpit detail.  This was interesting, but it looks a bit better than it did.  Bearing in mind it's going to be black and the canopy is not exactly clear, it may well be pointless, but still, I wanted to do it.  I would quote Father Stack, but I can't be bothered. I do need to do more work around the base of the canopy to get it to look more like the RN T-Birds, rather than the Baghdad Fury kit this wreck is part of.

[The Wooksta!]

"You know, I have the most terrible craving for a piece of fried lavatory paper."

It had to happen at some point.  I have the Pegasus MB5 kicking about, the plastic is nice and thick and a part chopped Fury.  I had intended Sabre but this is just too tempting - a Griffon 61 Fury F.III.  Now I know that Kitbasher as already done one of these and he made a nice job of it too.

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But IF I'm to use one of the rapidly dwindling number of Furies I have tucked away, I'll do something slightly different.  Dave went all Village People, so mine will likely be RAF.

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Now this is just the Pegasus cowl cut off and sanded back to the firewall and taped up to one of the recycled Furies, but already it looks as sleek and purposeful as the P.1032.  If anything, I'd say it's even prettier than the Sabre one.

In other news, the P.1032 has had it's first primer coat to do the snagging.  Out with the filler!

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Don't know what went wrong with the resin, but there's shedloads of tiny pin holes.  Think I'll do some hand painting to try and fill them, before sanding it all back.  But I'm really happy with this one.

[Gondor]

Try Knifing Putty. It's for automotive use and finer and smoother than any other filler I have used. Should be ideal to fill up all those holes.

[The Wooksta!]

"What I need is the drill, the hedge trimmers, and some ordinary household bleach!"

So the RAF P.1032 is now underway. The engine glued on and the radiators - cut down from the same ones I used for the P.1027 - are added too, although they're not quite as deep as the PM wing.  A skim of filler on top will hide that and underneath?  Well, I've a cunning plan to disguise the discrepancy with the radiator flaps.

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Good job I enjoy sanding...

End user is likely to be 33 Sqn in Malaya, as I have some rather natty squadron bars I want to use.  Although I'm curious to know if the stripes from the Xtradecal sheet for the Spitfire 24 of 80 Sqn in Hong Kong would fit, as one in Korea could be a neat alternate.

The Pegasus MB5 cowling.  Having had a slight rethink, this may be more useful as a master.  In case I want to do another Griffon Fury at some stage, perhaps a two seater.

[The Wooksta!]

"I don't know, Neil, but I'm going to stay and find out."

Well, I don't think I can do much more to the Navy 1032 other than start spraying. Although I just spotted an area that needed more sanding and a panel line restored.  Think I still have to restore one more, and possibly some sanding on the tailplanes, but getting some paint on proper is probably the next stage.

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And mocked up with a Wyvern prop

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The recycled one, which is going RAF, has had some primer to try and tie the fuselage together, as well as to see if the replanked rear cockpit needs work.

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There's still of great deal of filler work to do, but this is largely confined to the radiators and mainly underneath.  I need to find the exhaust mould, because they never came out properly on that engine casting.

I have had some...reflections on the colour scheme, thinking more standard RAF day fighter, but really, I'm wedded to the darker Malaya scheme and it'll be getting Type D roundels (which improve the sexiness factor of any aircraft by 110%), PRU Blue (which is automatically sexy) and a natty squadron bar.  Plus the hard points are already drilled for rocket mounts, even if I'm not actually fitting any actual rockets.

I may have a solution to my lack of Wyvern props.  I discovered an Aeroclub one in the loft, so that's likely to be moulded and cast.  Now I've not tried casting a complete spinner and prop, but I think I know how I can do it, using some v.thin plastic card and a leaf from Czechmaster's book.

In other news, the MB5 Merlin 61 cowling is cleaned up, assembled and primed ready to mould, with the pouring lug being designed and placed so that the cowling should fit straight on.  Well, that was the plan anyway, but on reflection I've made it too deep, but that was to cover the gaping 'ole that was the inside.  I did fill it full of play doh, as I've had insufficiently glued masters float when the rubber is poured.  The Sabre VII cowling for the Sabre Fury is at a similar stage, although that does need some tweaks.  Again, I've designed the lug to aid fit, although there is a cut out because it has to go over the wing spar.  The MB5 one will need a strategic cut, but it's not beyond most people.