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RAF WWII early camo colors - what's your choice of paint?

Started by DogfighterZen, December 14, 2025, 08:24:31 PM

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DogfighterZen

Like the title asks, what do you guys use for the green/brown/sky camo scheme used on early Spitfires and Hurricanes? I've searched the forum and the web but couldn't find the answers i'm looking for.
I have mostly Tamiya colors and a couple of Hataka sets and i can work with those for the gray/green/sky camos but i don't have a good match for the brown/earth used on the earlier camo so, i'd like to know what you guys are using for those colors.
T.I.A.

 :cheers:
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

Rick Lowe

May or may not be helpful, but I usually use Humbrol.
There again, I have a large stash that dates back to my early days and it'd be a shame to waste them.

PR19_Kit

Nowadays I use the Hataka BoB set, their colours in that one are pretty spot-on.

Others  are just as good though, Dark Green and Dark Earth are very common throughout all colour ranges.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

DogfighterZen

Quote from: Rick Lowe on December 14, 2025, 08:31:20 PMMay or may not be helpful, but I usually use Humbrol.
There again, I have a large stash that dates back to my early days and it'd be a shame to waste them.


Thanks for the suggestion, Rick!  :thumbsup:
Not sure where i'll find them but i'll have a look around.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 15, 2025, 03:01:05 AMNowadays I use the Hataka BoB set, their colours in that one are pretty spot-on.

Others  are just as good though, Dark Green and Dark Earth are very common throughout all colour ranges.

Thank you, Kit!  :thumbsup:
Tamiya colors don't seem to have a match in their range and apparently, they suggest mixing for their Spitfire Mk.I... :banghead:
The Hataka colors are good indeed, but i've read stuff on Britmodeller and other places where some say they're not the best match... still, others say it's the closest available.  :-\
I didn't wanna have to mix colors for this because i have a few other models i'd like to paint with those colors.
I'll try to find some photos of models painted with that set and see what they look like but at the moment, seems like the best option.

 :cheers:
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

PR19_Kit

It's true that some Hataka shades are wildly wrong, which is odd when you're used to their excellence.

Their PRU Blue is total rubbish as an example, very strange.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rick Lowe

Quote from: DogfighterZen on December 15, 2025, 04:47:03 AMTamiya colors don't seem to have a match in their range and apparently, they suggest mixing for their Spitfire Mk.I... :banghead:


Yes, I've noticed that about Tamiya.

Like before they had a Matt Clear in their range, the only suggestion was that you use their Gloss Clear and Flat Base. :banghead:



I'm not even sure they suggest alternative paints...  :-\ :angry:

Dizzyfugu

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My faves are Humbrol 29 (RAF Dark Earth) and Modelmaster 2060 (RAF Dark Green) as enamels, but both are unfortunately not available anymore, at least here in Germany...  :-\

TomZ

I'm still an enamel guy. I use Extracolour paints mostly.
I have been trying some acrylic colours but I'm put off by the bas adhesive qualities. If I try to mask over them, everything just pulls off.....


TomZ
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Mossie

Quote from: DogfighterZen on December 15, 2025, 04:47:03 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on December 14, 2025, 08:31:20 PMMay or may not be helpful, but I usually use Humbrol.
There again, I have a large stash that dates back to my early days and it'd be a shame to waste them.
Thanks for the suggestion, Rick!  :thumbsup:
Not sure where i'll find them but i'll have a look around.

I'd suggest Humbrol 29 for Dark Earth, 90 for sky and 116 for dark green. Humbrol suggests 30 for dark green but it's not usually accepted as accurate.

Some BoB aircraft used different shades for sky as there wasn't enough paint to go around. Humbrol 23 (duck egg blue) can be used for a blue shade.


DogfighterZen

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on December 25, 2025, 05:02:48 AMMy faves are Humbrol 29 (RAF Dark Earth) and Modelmaster 2060 (RAF Dark Green) as enamels, but both are unfortunately not available anymore, at least here in Germany...  :-\

Thomas, apparently, Humbrol are not easy to find here in Portugal either... i just have to find one brand that i can work with that is sold in European stores from which i can order... :-\
I'm still hoping that one of these days the Tamiya team will get off their butts and start making more colors... :rolleyes:

Quote from: TomZ on December 26, 2025, 09:14:50 AMI'm still an enamel guy. I use Extracolour paints mostly.
I have been trying some acrylic colours but I'm put off by the bas adhesive qualities. If I try to mask over them, everything just pulls off.....


TomZ

Honestly, i've only used acrylics so far, both lacquer and water based and i prefer the lacquer type.
Vallejo air color paints i've tried were horrible, couldn't get them to thin down properly, even with their dedicated thinner... :banghead:
Hataka ones i've used were good, very similar to Tamiya and Gunze and with those two, i rarely get that issue but i do have to clean the model well before i paint will alcohol to get the dust and hand grease off. If i don't, it will come off with heavy handling or masking tape..
Priming is the best way to avoid that but i admit that i normally don't use primer but i imagine that if the model isn't properly clean, it'll also come off with masking.

Quote from: Mossie on December 26, 2025, 03:16:36 PM
Quote from: DogfighterZen on December 15, 2025, 04:47:03 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on December 14, 2025, 08:31:20 PMMay or may not be helpful, but I usually use Humbrol.
There again, I have a large stash that dates back to my early days and it'd be a shame to waste them.
Thanks for the suggestion, Rick!  :thumbsup:
Not sure where i'll find them but i'll have a look around.

I'd suggest Humbrol 29 for Dark Earth, 90 for sky and 116 for dark green. Humbrol suggests 30 for dark green but it's not usually accepted as accurate.

Some BoB aircraft used different shades for sky as there wasn't enough paint to go around. Humbrol 23 (duck egg blue) can be used for a blue shade.



Thanks, Mossie! The problem is that Humbrol seems like it's unobtanium. Can't find them selling in the EU anywhere...
Regarding the sky color, i've spent a few hours going through forums and looking at photos and i get the impression most people call it duck egg green, not blue... :unsure:
Looking at photos of that period, i'd say the same but there's the fact that most of these photos were black and white and colorized later so, who's to say they're really correct.
I'll have to buy the Gunze equivalents and the respective Hataka set to see for myself how far off my eyes think they are...  :rolleyes:  ;D
Thanks for your suggestions, gentlemen. :bow:
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"

Dizzyfugu

Problem is: within the EU the enamels have more or less been technically banned, the import tariff rates are so high that noone stocks enamels anymore (and that also affects Testors or ModelMaster). The only enamels I get here in Germany is the Revell stuff, and that is rather horrible to work with.  :angry:  You get Humbrol/Heller acrylics, I tried them, but they are no replacement for me and the way I am used to work.  :angry:

DogfighterZen

Yep, these tariffs remind me of the Brexit situation in some ways... :banghead:
And i agree, it comes down to what we feel comfortable using. I'm very used to Tamiya as they were the first i used since i got back in the hobby... and considering that i'd never even painted a full model before that and have used them since 2014 with both the paintbrush and airbrush, i just wish they had all the colors in the world... :rolleyes:  ;D
And if thinned with Mr. Color Leveling Thinner, they're even better. Like i said earlier, i don't use primer at all. Most of the time it's just XF-19 paint, not a specific primer so, i clean the model well and i have no problems with masking and handling the model, although i do use gloves to avoid damaging the paintwork with my sweaty hands if i have to hold the model for longer than a few seconds.
The only time i've tried enamels was back in 2015 and i didn't even thin the paint...  :unsure: It was one of my first attempts to paint a model since i was a kid and i still had no clue of what i was doing... :rolleyes:
It was a Revel color from a metal tin and i didn't have proper thinner for those paints back then so, it was a messy affair, ruined a nice model, the Airfix 1/72 Zero... not the paint's fault but i kept using Tamiya acrylics after that nightmare... and finally bought Tamiya's X-20A acrylic thinner a year later when i got my compressor and airbrush setup so i still used a paintbrush and the paint straight from the jar for sometime...  :angel:  ;D
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"