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Started by NARSES2, July 05, 2025, 05:47:32 AM

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Weaver

Quote from: McColm on July 11, 2025, 05:01:51 PMChina has some interesting spacecraft and lunar vehicles.

Indeed, and there've been quite a few kits of them to use as a starting point for something whiffy, some of which were still in Hannants the last time I looked. The space vehicles/stations tend to be adaptions of Russian technology, but none the worse for it.

GWH Tiangong 1 space station in 1/48th: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/GWHL4805?result-token=XYDR3 (still in stock and not unreasonable at £20)

Trumpeter Shenzhou spacecraft in 1/72nd: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/TU01615?result-token=XYDR3 (currently out of stock)

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

#46
While I was looking for the info on that last post, I noticed that this is back in stock  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: :

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMCH1828?result-token=QzTtt (Atlantis, 1/150th scale, £30)
Designed by Krafft Ehricke, another real rocket engineer.

Background info: https://fantastic-plastic.com/convair-space-shuttle-by-revell.html





"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Mossie

While I was looking for my old Pilgrim Observer thread, I found an old thread by Atlantis. This is the Saturn V-21, a heavy launch vehicle with boosters and using the Pilgrim Observers nose cap to create a bulbous cargo section.
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37581.msg609401#msg609401

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on July 11, 2025, 05:26:28 PMWhile I was looking for the info on that last post, I noticed that this is back in stock  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: :

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMCH1828?result-token=QzTtt (Atlantis, 1/150th scale, £30)
Designed by Krafft Ehricke, another real rocket engineer.


Yeas, I KNOW I said I wasn't up for this GB, but I DO like that, a LOT.  ;D

I can't remember it as the Revell kit first time around at all.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

#49
Quote from: Mossie on Yesterday at 01:52:26 AMWhile I was looking for my old Pilgrim Observer thread, I found an old thread by Atlantis. This is the Saturn V-21, a heavy launch vehicle with boosters and using the Pilgrim Observers nose cap to create a bulbous cargo section.
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37581.msg609401#msg609401

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Looks like two Atlas rockets as boosters.
The old L39 launch pad wouldn't be up to launching that monster. NASA would have to take up a bunch more of Florida real estate.

I've also found that between the stuff I brought home from the last club meeting and stuff I already have I have six of what appear to be Bf-109 wheels. They have that funky tread pattern that will work as moon wheels quite well. It looks like 1/72nd scale so the rover will be small.
The hopper will have to match the seated astronaut figure I have which appears to be close enough to 1/35th scale for whiff purposes. I sorted out a whole kit box full of possible parts for these two. I'm also experimenting with glueing together pairs of water bottle caps to see if they will work as moon rover wheels. The ribs on the caps would make interesting tread design. The problem is the plastic doesn't take glue of any kind. Gorilla glue is holding so far but if it pull or twist it I'm sure it will come apart. I might take the best one and make resin one piece copies.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

frank2056

@Mossie - I have an original issue "Pilgrim Observer" that I bought off ebay 20 years ago and the re-release. It's a great kit. One thing it isn't is 1/100 scale. I think 1/144 is probably the closest.

The base does like like Vesta!

Mossie

Quote from: frank2056 on Yesterday at 02:32:01 PM@Mossie - I have an original issue "Pilgrim Observer" that I bought off ebay 20 years ago and the re-release. It's a great kit. One thing it isn't is 1/100 scale. I think 1/144 is probably the closest.

The base does like like Vesta!

Yeah, I agree. The scaling is a bit allover the place, 1/144 seems to be the best compromise. Hope you get around to building yours.

Its impressive how much it looks like Vesta, especially since it was around 40 years after the kit was produced that before any decent images were available.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 04:08:28 AM
Quote from: Weaver on July 11, 2025, 05:26:28 PMWhile I was looking for the info on that last post, I noticed that this is back in stock  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: :

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMCH1828?result-token=QzTtt (Atlantis, 1/150th scale, £30)
Designed by Krafft Ehricke, another real rocket engineer.


Yeas, I KNOW I said I wasn't up for this GB, but I DO like that, a LOT.  ;D

I can't remember it as the Revell kit first time around at all.


After perving the Big H site 3-4 times, and realising they only had ONE of these in stock, I bought it.  ;D

Doesn't mean I'll build it for the GB, but it might get my thoughts going on the subject to come up with an idea using it before the GB starts.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 02:52:54 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 04:08:28 AM
Quote from: Weaver on July 11, 2025, 05:26:28 PMWhile I was looking for the info on that last post, I noticed that this is back in stock  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: :

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AMCH1828?result-token=QzTtt (Atlantis, 1/150th scale, £30)
Designed by Krafft Ehricke, another real rocket engineer.


Yeas, I KNOW I said I wasn't up for this GB, but I DO like that, a LOT.  ;D

I can't remember it as the Revell kit first time around at all.


After perving the Big H site 3-4 times, and realising they only had ONE of these in stock, I bought it.  ;D

Doesn't mean I'll build it for the GB, but it might get my thoughts going on the subject to come up with an idea using it before the GB starts.

Thank you - that's removed the temptation for me to buy it when I've already spent too much money lately. :wacko:  :thumbsup:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

frank2056

Another Moon lander kit - The Pegasus "1/350" Moonlander



I put it in quotes because Pegasus kits rarely match the listed scale. This model (and the Space Ark) both have well documented "real world" lengths, but the kits are way off. For the Moon lander, it scales out to 1/250 or thereabouts.

great build on Briymodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235061210-pegasus-1350-von-braun-moon-lander/

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on Yesterday at 03:25:01 PMThank you - that's removed the temptation for me to buy it when I've already spent too much money lately. :wacko:  :thumbsup:


Glad to be of help H, any time.  ;D

Now I'll just HAVE to build it, or use it for the GB somehow, so you can see how it goes together!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on Yesterday at 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Weaver on Yesterday at 03:25:01 PMThank you - that's removed the temptation for me to buy it when I've already spent too much money lately. :wacko:  :thumbsup:


Glad to be of help H, any time.  ;D

Now I'll just HAVE to build it, or use it for the GB somehow, so you can see how it goes together!

Excellent - I'll have to try to remember how it goes together for when they re-pop it in 10 years' time...
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones