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The Hawker Beechcraft Dragon MRA1, the Nimrod's replacement- Resurrected!

Started by PR19_Kit, June 07, 2025, 05:08:58 AM

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Thorvic

If its acrylic paint then Mr Color levelling thinner should remove the paint and primer
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PR19_Kit

Thanks for all those ideas gentlemen, I'll try a few of them out over the next few days.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Mossie

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 11, 2025, 12:29:04 PMThat'd be great Mossie, thanks so much.  :thumbsup:

Your welcome. Here's the test, there's a bomb and silver undercarriage doors in acrylic (I think its Humbrol and Citadel respectively), another bomb in Halfords primer and the hard-core test, a Tornado air brake in Humbrol enamel that's over 30 years old.

I've also got three brushes I used last night and neglected to rinse them before bed. Worth a try as they're ruined.  :banghead:
After about 15 minutes it seemed to be doing something, there was some residue when I rubbed the bristles.

I'll leave them at least overnight and report back.

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kerick

I've found that some acrylics can be removed by scrapping with a fingernail. Or just a strong tape.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

zenrat

Vallejo acrylics can sometimes be removed with harsh language...
 ;)

FWIW Brake Fluid doesn't dissolve resin parts.  It turns them into squishy blobs.
I don't know what it would do to 3d printed parts.  It would depend what they were printed from I suppose.  Not something we always know if we are buying them rather than making our own.

What is Power Spray's working ingredient?  How does it feel on your skin?  Does it make it feel soapy like caustic soda does?  Do they advise wearing gloves?
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

Weaver

For what it's worth, the Eazi Strip Gel doesn't appear to have done any harm to the resin bits I put it on yesterday.
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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

Quote from: kerick on June 11, 2025, 08:03:23 PMI've found that some acrylics can be removed by scrapping with a fingernail. Or just a strong tape.


That's what happened on my Dragon, but even the primer came off with the tape too!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Quote from: Mossie on June 11, 2025, 02:07:15 PMI've also got three brushes I used last night and neglected to rinse them before bed. Worth a try as they're ruined.  :banghead:
After about 15 minutes it seemed to be doing something, there was some residue when I rubbed the bristles.


Mossie, Deluxe Materials "Brush Magic" will bring brushes back from the grave - seriously. Been using it for a few years now  :thumbsup:

https://deluxematerials.co.uk/products/brush-magic

Would probably attack the resin though, to put it mildly.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Mossie

Quote from: zenrat on June 12, 2025, 04:27:38 AMVallejo acrylics can sometimes be removed with harsh language...
 ;)

One thing I found by accident is that white spirit can fade them with rubbing, but not entirely remove them. It can give a bit of colour variation, useful for armour builds.

I found out when trying to do some dot filter weathering with oil paints on a 1/72 A7V. The dot filter technique didn't go to plan, but I got the result I was after just rubbing the Vallejo paint lightly with a cotton bud dampened in white spirit.

kerick

By white spirit you mean paint thinner or lacquer thinner?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

zenrat

Quote from: kerick on June 12, 2025, 04:28:23 PMBy white spirit you mean paint thinner or lacquer thinner?

White spirit (AU, UK and Ireland)or mineral spirits (US, Canada), also known as mineral turpentine (AU/NZ/ZA), turpentine substitute, and petroleum spirits, is a petroleum-derived clear liquid used as a common organic solvent in painting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

It's less harsh than Thinners.  It's called "Turps" here in Victoria.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on June 13, 2025, 05:06:24 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 12, 2025, 04:28:23 PMBy white spirit you mean paint thinner or lacquer thinner?

White spirit (AU, UK and Ireland)or mineral spirits (US, Canada), also known as mineral turpentine (AU/NZ/ZA), turpentine substitute, and petroleum spirits, is a petroleum-derived clear liquid used as a common organic solvent in painting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

It's less harsh than Thinners.  It's called "Turps" here in Victoria.


Was always called Turps here in S London as well.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

I bought a double pack of Fairy Ultra Clean, or whatever it's called, and a plastic tub big enough to take the Dragon today.

So I taped up the windows and other holes on the Dragon's fuselage, poured all the Fairy stuff into the the tub, and realised I was going to need THREE times as much to submerge the model, but what the hell. I dumped it in there anyway, at least the bottom will strip, or not, as the case may be.

After a couple of hours I took a look and the stuff is all bubbling away like a witches' cauldron!  :o

The paint's starting to peel off the underside of the wings though  :thumbsup:  but my tape patches have peeled off. :( That means the fluid will have got inside, so bang goes my nicely painted cockpit detailing. No idea what I can do about that now, the canopy is GLUED in place!  :banghead:

We'll see how things go in the morning.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rick Lowe

Yeah, that sort of stuff is death to adhesive tape...

To remove the canopy, a razor saw is your friend... better than using a knife, as I have found to my cost and a broken transparency... any gaps can be made good with a sliver of plastic.

But you know all this, of course. Depends how much 'Faffage' you want to indulge in...

As for the topside, soaking a paper towel in it and draping it over the model should do the trick.  :thumbsup:

PR19_Kit

It's coming along nicely this morning, paint peeling off all over the place. I'll have at it with the trusty old toothbrush later and see how much I can get off.

The razor saw should work OK on the rear joint of the canopy, but the lower edge is curved, so that'll be multiple passes with the scalpel I guess. I DON'T relish that bit at all. :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit