The Waffling Wombat

[PR19_Kit]

NO fun.

[Old Wombat]

It's not that bad, it's less debilitating than a mild 'flu, it's just bloody annoying - as I have next to no leave of any sort* (about 8 days total) because it has all been chewed up taking my wife to various tests & treatments. 

SA Govt policy is that any carer's leave I take comes out of my sick leave/annual leave; Federal/Commonwealth Govt policy is that carer's leave comes out of a different pool, separate to sick/annual leave.   




[*; Actually, that's not quite true; I have a decent chunk of Long Service Leave, but that has to be taken in either (I can't recall which right now) minimum 2-week or 4-week pre-arranged blocks.]

[PR19_Kit]

I never have figured out how any organisation/government can define a fixed amount of sick leave.

The human body isn't like that, it can't be predicted in what it will do in any way, and saying that people can't be sick for more than a time THEY define is just inhuman!

[Old Wombat]

I never have figured out how any organisation/government can define a fixed amount of sick leave.

The human body isn't like that, it can't be predicted in what it will do in any way, and saying that people can't be sick for more than a time THEY define is just inhuman!

You know that.

I know that.

Govt/corporate knows "Dollars!" ... but usually arse-about.

They tend to see the "front-end cost", whilst failing to see the not-so-hidden-to-thinking-people expenses & lost productivity of one sick employee coming in to work & passing their illness on to a dozen more employees.

PS: The other thing I forgot to mention is that I've now exposed my immunocompromised wife (undergoing Cancer immunotherapy) to the other Big C.

PPS: And COVID is by far a bigger threat to life than either 'flu or RSV in Australia (see below, taken from the Aust. Bureau of Statistics);

[Rick Lowe]

PS: The other thing I forgot to mention is that I've now exposed my immunocompromised wife (undergoing Cancer immunotherapy) to the other Big C.

Oh, Bollocks - hadn't though t of that wrinkle!

Hope you can both stay well or get better very quickly, as the case may be, respectively. 

Yeah; as an asthmatic, other respiratory complications are no fun - I can well do without them.

[Wardukw]

That sucks buf...hope y'all get over this as fast possible.

[PR19_Kit]

Yeah; as an asthmatic, other respiratory complications are no fun - I can well do without them.

You and me both Rick, even mild colds make an asthma attack more likely, and please don't mention POLLEN! 

[Old Wombat]

Thanks, gent's!

[NARSES2]

When I was at British Steel (the real one, not the Chinese knock off) we had 3 months sick leave on full pay, then a further 6 on half pay (full pay at the discretion of your manager) then if you were still off sick there was a discussion with a separate Board as to if it was a case of early retirement or continued leave of absence which was then negotiable. They were very generous. I had no complaints.

If your partner was off sick, then that changed as society did. Initialy you needed to be married, but as the years went by the definition of partner changed. However you still got a month on full pay and then 2 on half pay (full if manager said so) and then again it was negotiable.

Some of the early retirement/redundancy packages were very generous in the 80/90's.

[scooter]

Some of the early retirement/redundancy packages were very generous in the 80/90's.

Ah, the Before Times...which I will stop there, lest I get several shelves worth of The Book thrown at me.

Our union negotiated a pretty substantial leave package.  10 days of both sick and vacation for employees during their first 5 years, starting 1 January, plus 3 days of administrative leave that must be used before the end of the year.  After 5 years, 5 days added every 5 years, until 30 days vacation (I think.  That particular state website is down).  But you can only carry over two weeks of vacation; sick leave never expires until retirement.  Although you can donate your unused leave to anyone short in the agency.

[Old Wombat]

Our union negotiated a pretty substantial leave package.  10 days of both sick and vacation for employees during their first 5 years, starting 1 January, plus 3 days of administrative leave that must be used before the end of the year.  After 5 years, 5 days added every 5 years, until 30 days vacation (I think.  That particular state website is down).  But you can only carry over two weeks of vacation; sick leave never expires until retirement.  Although you can donate your unused leave to anyone short in the agency.

That's good?

Even ours is better! 12 days of sick/carer's leave & 4 weeks of annual/recreational leave (6 weeks for shift workers - although we've been shafted on that, & only get 5 weeks) accrued annually, 90 days of long service leave after 10 years (& it continues to accrue after that) & you can save your sick & recreational leave for as long as you're employed (assuming you don't get sick or don't use it when you are sick, & don't go insane working without a significant break).

[Rheged]

When I was still teaching, holidays were fixed, but you could have three months medical leave  at full pay, six months at half pay, then further half pay time after consultation between the local authority and your doctor.  Early retirement on medical grounds meant a reasonably generous pension, but it took a lot of (metaphorically) jumping through medical hoops to get there.   That's how I left teaching.

[scooter]

Our union negotiated a pretty substantial leave package.  10 days of both sick and vacation for employees during their first 5 years, starting 1 January, plus 3 days of administrative leave that must be used before the end of the year.  After 5 years, 5 days added every 5 years, until 30 days vacation (I think.  That particular state website is down).  But you can only carry over two weeks of vacation; sick leave never expires until retirement.  Although you can donate your unused leave to anyone short in the agency.

That's good?

It's better than what corporate America gets.  Most folks are lucky to get two weeks a year off.  When SWMBO was working at our local supermarket, she had to cash out her unused sick days at the end of the year.

[Old Wombat]

Our union negotiated a pretty substantial leave package.  10 days of both sick and vacation for employees during their first 5 years, starting 1 January, plus 3 days of administrative leave that must be used before the end of the year.  After 5 years, 5 days added every 5 years, until 30 days vacation (I think.  That particular state website is down).  But you can only carry over two weeks of vacation; sick leave never expires until retirement.  Although you can donate your unused leave to anyone short in the agency.

That's good?

It's better than what corporate America gets.  Most folks are lucky to get two weeks a year off.  When SWMBO was working at our local supermarket, she had to cash out her unused sick days at the end of the year.

Man, that sucks!

Corporate & government are, generally, the same here in Aus. Although some corporate organisations are more generous, & Federal get carer's leave out of a different pool to their sick leave.

UK sounds pretty good, to me (at least historically).

[scooter]

UK sounds pretty good, to me (at least historically).

Me too.