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Royal Flight Concorde
« on: May 16, 2021, 10:43:55 am »
Well I did search for a Concorde thread, but couldn't see one ...... this is then obviously the point where several of you point me in the right direction!  ;D

I have a 1/144 Concorde.......

I fancy doing it in Royal Flight / Royal Squadron / No.32 Squadron colours. To be precise something similar to the 'red wing' livery worn by the BAe 146s at one point.


My question is , is there any practical reason why Concorde's wings couldn't be painted red? Obviously in Whiff World they of course can be and d*mn reality!

I just wondered though whether supersonic flight caused issues for any other colour other than white on high temperature areas?

Has anyone ever done something similar ..... A Braniff or a DHL Concorde for instance?  ;D



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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2021, 10:51:59 am »
I seem to remember the fuselage is white to minimise heat build up - if grew a foot or so in flight due to friction. Not sure about the wings

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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2021, 11:06:00 am »
 For a Queen's flight Concorde, I'd be tempted to go for a minimalist , basically white scheme with a few restrained touches.  If it's a 32 squadron "owned " aircraft, you might wish to consider a few electronic-defensive  lumps and bumps.   Perhaps under-wing missiles (purely for self-defence, of course)  could be considered too.
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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 11:38:26 am »
Yes, the almost all-white schemes on both BA and Air France Concordes was because they wanted to minimise heat build up on the larger areas of coloured paint with the standard schemes.

There were a few 'specials' done at various times, mostly in Air France aircraft, that had over-all colour schemes, like the famous 'Pepsi' scheme, but they may not have carried out any sustained supersonic flights.
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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2021, 11:47:45 am »
In the Real World Concorde was considerred for a Royal flight aircraft, to be seconded from British Airways service.
However this proposal was rejected, Why? Well the doors etc were not wide enough to accomodate the standard Royal Household luggage.
So no Concordes.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2021, 01:09:13 pm »
The two Air France special scheme Concordes.






And the singular BA 'special' and my fave Concorde, G-BOAD, the hybrid BA-Singapore aircraft. But I WISH they'd have done the starboard side in the Landor scheme!

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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2021, 02:48:54 am »
In the Real World Concorde was considerred for a Royal flight aircraft, to be seconded from British Airways service.
However this proposal was rejected, Why? Well the doors etc were not wide enough to accomodate the standard Royal Household luggage.
So no Concordes.  :rolleyes:

I think the conversation of the Queen's 'large luggage' has occurred before somewhere  ;D

I suppose the 'answer' to that is that we would end up with something like a US Presidential visit. Support aircraft would arrive in advance and deliver the limousines and hat boxes!
Then the Queen would arrive in style in Concorde (accompanied by the Red Arrows where-ever possible for full dramatic effect!  );D

That second Air France scheme is a bit 'WoW'!
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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2021, 05:00:36 am »

That second Air France scheme is a bit 'WoW'!


I'm not sure if it ever flew in that scheme, it was the second production test aircraft, and never flew in passenger service.

The Pepsi machine did, obviously, and I have a decal sheet for it too.  ;D
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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2021, 05:15:50 am »
Sounds like a great idea. I'd go all in and make her red white and blue. Big Union Jack on the tail. Maybe a bit ahead of it's time or flashy as that, but still noticeable.
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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2021, 04:20:49 pm »
Yes, the almost all-white schemes on both BA and Air France Concordes was because they wanted to minimise heat build up on the larger areas of coloured paint with the standard schemes.

There were a few 'specials' done at various times, mostly in Air France aircraft, that had over-all colour schemes, like the famous 'Pepsi' scheme, but they may not have carried out any sustained supersonic flights.

According to the almighty internet, the Pepsi bird was temperature limited to 20 minutes flight at Mach 2.02 or Mach 1.7 in sustained flight.

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Re: Royal Flight Concorde
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2021, 04:37:42 pm »
Excellent, and well discovered, thanks.  :thumbsup:

I'm amazed they even let it fly that fast.
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