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Gondor

Quote from: rickshaw on July 24, 2025, 12:38:42 AMThe tracks are loose on the model.  All the pictures show them far tighter.  I think it depends on the crew more than anything.  If they are loose they are perhaps more easily replaced in the field than the only remaining show example. :banghead:

Tracks have to be a minimum tightness to help keep them on. If they are too loose, they will jump up and down which can lead to them jumping off the guides and return rollers causing the track to be thrown.
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Quote from: Gondor on July 24, 2025, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on July 24, 2025, 12:38:42 AMThe tracks are loose on the model.  All the pictures show them far tighter.  I think it depends on the crew more than anything.  If they are loose they are perhaps more easily replaced in the field than the only remaining show example. :banghead:

Tracks have to be a minimum tightness to help keep them on. If they are too loose, they will jump up and down which can lead to them jumping off the guides and return rollers causing the track to be thrown.

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly but it is an area of too little knowledge.  The M113 is a case in point.  The tracks are supposed to be a "pack of cigarettes" loose at the third road wheel.  The number of models I have seen that have them far looser is phenomenal because that is the way they are made.  In this case I'd say the Matilda I is wearing its tracks are admittedly a bit loose but as I've indicated it could well depend on the crew and their situation as well as Gecko.  :banghead:
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Steel Penguin

thank you Weaver,  im laughing like a drain and Mrs SP is looking at me asking why?
so im going to have to do a quick run through the above posts, and explain regarding the Chieftain , and his walk rounds, and how he comments on track tension,  and then Mrs SP is probably going to snerk at at all as well.
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and i have and she did.
so again thank you.  Its given both of us a smile  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
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Quote from: Steel Penguin on July 24, 2025, 03:54:17 AMthank you Weaver,  im laughing like a drain and Mrs SP is looking at me asking why?
so im going to have to do a quick run through the above posts, and explain regarding the Chieftain , and his walk rounds, and how he comments on track tension,  and then Mrs SP is probably going to snerk at at all as well.
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and i have and she did.
so again thank you.  Its given both of us a smile  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


I hope you also told her about the "Oh sh!t the tank's on fire!" test as well... ;D  ;D  ;D

He doesn't do it any more, but it was actually quite interesting to see just how UN-connected to size access issues were. There were some TINY vehicles that he could get out of just fine, and other huge ones that were damned near impossible for him.
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jcf

Quote from: rickshaw on July 24, 2025, 12:38:42 AMThe tracks are loose on the model.  All the pictures show them far tighter.  I think it depends on the crew more than anything.  If they are loose they are perhaps more easily replaced in the field than the only remaining show example. :banghead:
It's a CAD render not a built up model, so I wouldn't take it too seriously.
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Wardukw

As a very long time armour model builder trust me track sag aint a bad thing when it'd doe well ...there's plenty of occasions where commentors who know bugger all about tanks will complain that theres to much sag when in fact the amount only really matters if the tank in question runs like that or not ,,,and no ,,none of this is directed at anyone here ,,this is pointed more at the JDM's out there .
It's natural for there to be sag ,,fact its impossible to completely remove it ,,the moment a tanks suspension is compressed you'll get sag ,,tanks like the Sherman and many German tanks were designed to run with there tracks tight ..but even then your still going to get some ,,the Matilda 1 ya see running at Bovington has sag when its running around the track ,,but when it turns one of the corners it gets quite alot more ,,just the way things are .
But in the model world ,,track sag can bring a heap more life into a tank or anything with tracks ,,,in the RW there's plenty of vid's and pics of Soviet tanks ,,KV1/2,, JS1/2's and   ISU's with a huge amount of sag and strangely it looks bad on a model of the machines but with half that amount it looks pretty good .
Track sag on a model gives it more visual interest and makes the tracks look like they weight as much as they do which on large tanks can weight over 2tons a side ..when i build a tank where i can add sag ,,i will ,,its also why i love metal indi tracks links ...instant sag  ;D   
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Quote from: Wardukw on July 24, 2025, 09:41:32 PMits also why i love metal indi tracks links ...instant sag  ;D   

Instant boat anchor, too.  ;)  ;D
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Quote from: Old Wombat on July 25, 2025, 07:39:15 AMInstant boat anchor, too.  ;)  ;D


Naah, that's the old Commodore 1.9 donk... ;)

Mossie

Gecko 1/35 Skid Steer Loader. 2x CASE M400W wheeled versions and M400T tracked version.

Not new, but they were mentioned in another thread.

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PR19_Kit

That IS a Bobcat, isn't it?

Minus the cab side guards anywya.
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I have the pallet forklift version of that kit ..... One day I'll build it.  :angel:



But first I'll have to get into a full-on refurb mindset & attack my HMBLT build to fix some breakages & build errors.  :rolleyes:



Maybe do some mod's on it, too.  ;)
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2025, 06:35:19 AMThat IS a Bobcat, isn't it?

Minus the cab side guards anywya.

CASE (and Bobcat) would disagree. But the name has become synonymous for skid-steer vehicles. Very similar, vehicles, just different manufacturers.

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Mossie

Four kits and all in exactly the same paint scheme.  :unsure: It would have been nice to see a civvy scheme, and I believe they've worn green.