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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2020, 01:38:41 am »
Beg your pardon, but what's a P38, besides this? And the Lightning, of course.


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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2020, 03:28:51 am »
P38 is also a derisive nickname for the Leyland P76 - because it was only ever half the car it was meant to be...

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2020, 07:49:41 am »
I decided to buy some of that filler to see how it goes but also picked up a tube of something else which I thought may be as good and far cheaper, only takes 20 minuites to cure too. Does pong a bit though





I'm useing an old bank card to spread the filler over the surface, that way it helps to get a streighter surface rather than the sine wave that I usually get along the flanks of the fuselage.

Will see how it goes.

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2020, 09:03:55 am »
P38 will cure faster or slower depending on how much catalyst you use. The smell is really the only down side.

There's also ye olde superglue and baking soda trick, which is much quicker.
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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2020, 10:11:40 am »
It appears to be working well, 20 - 30 minuites cuering time and only one part, no catalyst. The 100g tube only cost me 3 as well so quite cheap too.

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2020, 12:39:33 pm »
Might have to try some of that stuff - it looks to be about the same price as a tube of yer actual HUmbrol or Revell fillers and looks to be more bang for your actual pound.  Where did you get it?
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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2020, 12:49:35 pm »
I am using nearly exclusively a 200 gr. tube of Sikkens Kombifiller., bought in Germany. Monocomponent, works very well.
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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #67 on: May 30, 2020, 01:30:32 pm »
Might have to try some of that stuff - it looks to be about the same price as a tube of yer actual HUmbrol or Revell fillers and looks to be more bang for your actual pound.  Where did you get it?

Halfords, although I am sure there are other sorces for it.

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #68 on: May 30, 2020, 05:41:28 pm »
Any one part filler/putty will shrink as it cures due to the curing being due to something evaporating.
Two part/catalysed filler/putty will not as it cures by chemical reaction.

I used to use knifing putty on car builds and it works fine but you have to allow for the shrinkage and use thin layers ensuring they are fully cured before adding the next layer.  If you don't then you will get ghost seams appearing at a later date when the build is in your display cabinet - don't ask me how I know this.

Also, depending on the solvent used large amounts of knifing putty can soften styrene leading to a sagged mess.  Again, don't ask etc.

However, if you know the above and work appropriately then it is a very good modelling putty.
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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2020, 05:53:59 am »
Any one part filler/putty will shrink as it cures due to the curing being due to something evaporating.
Two part/catalysed filler/putty will not as it cures by chemical reaction.

I used to use knifing putty on car builds and it works fine but you have to allow for the shrinkage and use thin layers ensuring they are fully cured before adding the next layer.  If you don't then you will get ghost seams appearing at a later date when the build is in your display cabinet - don't ask me how I know this.

Also, depending on the solvent used large amounts of knifing putty can soften styrene leading to a sagged mess.  Again, don't ask etc.

However, if you know the above and work appropriately then it is a very good modelling putty.

Only wanting to use it for small depth froblems to level out areas that I just  manage to sand flat for one reason or another  :banghead:

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2020, 05:56:51 am »

There's also ye olde superglue and baking soda trick, which is much quicker.

I still sometimes use super glue and talcum powder. Works out quite cheap if using Store super glue.
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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2020, 06:02:05 am »
I've just been using it to extend a Swift F1 wing to the profile on the Supermarine 535.  Forgotten just how easy it is.
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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2020, 07:03:43 am »
After a couple of small coats with the Knifing Putty and lots of sanding I have given the fuselage a coat of primer to show up rpeblems.





I am quite pleased with the results even though there are several gaps and holes showing up some of which I knew about and some I didn't.

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #73 on: June 03, 2020, 10:19:02 am »
PSR has been on going so only a little progress has been made on the model, however the old brain keeps ticking away and further details of this build have now been planed with some finalised but not in practice.

Decided to fit a different canopy to the build and also to remove the lumps on the underside near the tail. The airframe shall, for the most part be streamlined! Some bit's might not be. The tail wheel location, while not finalised to the millimeter where it will go will have three doors, two larger doors that open when the tail wheel is either raised or lowered and a smaller third door that is attached near the leg which covers the hole in flight that the leg requires when it's down. If you cant work out what I mean, think of the Harrier main undercarriage legs and doors but much smaller.

I am also considering giving myself a whole lot more work to do on the wings, as if there was not enough all ready.  I am considering extending the trailing edge of the ailerons and re profiling the wing tips to produce a larger and squarer tip. Not fully decided on that yet but it may happen.

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Re: "Don't Tell Him!" Short Brothers Torpedo Attack Fighter 1950's
« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2020, 06:36:53 am »
Received the new canopy for this build, not going to tell anyon what it was designed for as you guys have to do some work in the "what did he use for that" at the end of the build  ;D

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