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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2020, 08:09:32 am »
Maybe so, but I'm 120 miles away from my main source of such stuff at the moment. :(
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2020, 10:30:36 am »
... the rather complex fins don't fit the tanks in the slightest! In the pic you can see the massive gaps where they meet up to the tail of the tank, and they need a lot of PSR as a result. For some reason SH have added a small part to the inside of each fin which is meant to fit in a slot in the tank, but they're far too large, and I've had to cut them off. ...

Perhaps the gaps a due to the way the fins are attached to the tank at a large anhedral angle.

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2020, 10:42:32 am »
Why not simple leave them away, or replace them with simpler (single-piece) fins from styrene sheet?

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2020, 12:26:30 pm »

Why not simple leave them away, or replace them with simpler (single-piece) fins from styrene sheet?


I did think of the latter choice, but by then I'd glued them on and it was a tad late. :(

They're very characteristic of the type, so I didn't fancy leaving them off. Viz the Spanish example here, which also has the chaff dispensers above the ventral fins which I've added on the model.

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2020, 06:32:33 am »
Actually I think you're right Alastair. I'll have to buy another F1 kit from ebay, there's plenty for sale there.

It's almost impossible to PSR the upper surface of those fins, the outer fins get in the way, and then it's equally impossible to sand the putty away.

Who knows which F1 kit has tanks with integral fins please? Revell, Airfix, Heller, Haswgawa?
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2020, 07:51:01 am »

Actually I think you're right Alastair. I'll have to buy another F1 kit from ebay, there's plenty for sale there.

It's almost impossible to PSR the upper surface of those fins, the outer fins get in the way, and then it's equally impossible to sand the putty away.

Who knows which F1 kit has tanks with integral fins please? Revell, Airfix, Heller, Haswgawa?


To hand I have an Italeri Sepcat Jaguar "A" which used to have two of the required tanks in it. The split is vertical for the tank half's and the fins, complete with end plates, fit into groves in the tank sides so far less faff.

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2020, 08:55:33 am »
'Far les faff' sounds good to me!

Thanks for the pointer, I'll see if there's something similar going for auction.
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2020, 08:46:55 pm »
Heller's F1s have a tank with the fins on it, Kit.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2020, 01:46:55 am »
Do they? I took a look and I found only kits with seperate fins - but these were the new boxings, for the different variants. Do you perhaps mean the original kit (with optional single- or two-seater cockpits)? I also checked the Heller Jaguar, but it also comes with suitable tanks but seperate fins.

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2020, 02:24:41 am »
It was, I suppose the original kit 'cause that was what I used.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2020, 02:31:47 am »
I have found a pair of tanks that meet with Kit's approval so they shall be posted to him the next time I am out other than to call the cat in!

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2020, 04:50:45 am »
The Hasegawa F1C kit just has one tank included.
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2020, 05:52:06 am »
F1s carried one MONSTER tank on the centreline point, and two smaller ones on the wing points. The centre line tank, called the 'Iranian Tank' for some reason, was finless, whereas the wing tanks had those severely anhedralled fins with tip fins too.

Anyway Alastair's found some Italeri Jaguar tanks that are the correct type and the fins are much more sensibly constructed. They'll be on the way to me when he can get out and about, thank you Alastair.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2020, 06:09:19 am »
Hasegawa have fins on the big central tank.
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Re: Mirage F1P
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2020, 06:11:13 am »
I think that's one of the smaller tanks, but loaded onto the centre line rack.

The Iranian tank is quite markedly curved along their centre line.
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