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Water Scorpion
« on: March 21, 2020, 03:25:53 pm »
Okay, well better late than never, and to nobody's great surprise (given recent discussions), I am embarking on this:



Obviously, I'm going to put a Jeep in the back of a Scorpion... er, sorry, I meant I'm going to put a Scorpion turret on a Buffalo hull. The idea is that sometime in the 1970s/80s a military with LVT-4s (front engine+MGs+tail ramp) decided that they wanted something equivalent to an LVT(A)-4 (rear engine+75mm+roof) but didn't have any, so they got creative. I've given up trying to figure out how heavy a Scorpion turret is, but it's aluminium so it's probably okay.

Havn't yet decided which country does this. Possible options are:

1. Entirely made-up country
2. Real country with a credible story
3. Real country with a mickey-take story

We shall see...
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2020, 03:31:33 pm »
Thinking 2. I wouyld go for Middle East, they have the money to do it.
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2020, 04:06:26 pm »
Thinking 2. I wouyld go for Middle East, they have the money to do it.
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On the other hand, the Middle East has the money to not to need to do it. Also, most of them don't have a need for much of a Marine Corps. I'm thinking of places more like the Phillipines or various places in Central America or the Carribean, who both need marines and who have a history of keeping WWII hardware in service forever and modifying it extensively.
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2020, 04:38:45 pm »
How about an African country, one subject to an arms embargo where necessity is the mother of invention?
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2020, 04:41:12 pm »
Australia has a history of putting Saladin & Scorpion turrets on M113's. ;)
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2020, 04:49:28 pm »
How about an African country, one subject to an arms embargo where necessity is the mother of invention?

How many of them need marines though? Remember LVTs aren't great tanks: they're big, poor on hard surfaces and thinly-armoured at best.
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2020, 04:52:02 pm »
Australia has a history of putting Saladin & Scorpion turrets on M113's. ;)

Indeed, and Canada put them on MOWAG Piranhas. The Phillipines also made their own copies of the M113 MRV, which is what put me onto them as a possible user. They also seem to have a habit of buying exotic vehicle types where they end up as the only user.
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2020, 05:53:01 pm »
The Martian People's Front already have a history of using something similar...

https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=40129.msg671322#msg671322
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2020, 09:03:16 pm »
The Martian People's Front already have a history of using something similar...
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=40129.msg671322#msg671322

Nice one - I'd forgotten about that. :thumbsup:

Funnily enough, the reason why I got a Buffalo in the first place was because the hull shape sort-of reminded me of some vehicles in a Fred Gambino sci-fi painting.
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2020, 12:13:51 am »
Trashcanistan! They have a whooping 5 miles of beach to defend. The occasional shipwreck survivor who washes ashore is the only source of outside currency.
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2020, 03:43:06 am »
There's a lot of swamp around the Niger delta, along the BurmaMyanmar coasts and rivers, even the Bangladeshi Ganges .  There's also the lower portions of ANY great river in South America.  Lots of places to consider!!
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2020, 06:48:23 am »
There's a lot of swamp around the Niger delta, along the BurmaMyanmar coasts and rivers, even the Bangladeshi Ganges .  There's also the lower portions of ANY great river in South America.  Lots of places to consider!!

That's a fair point: LVTs were originally invented as swamp rescue vehicles and the French used them in that kind of environment in Indo-China.

There's an option 3 possibility that depends on this fact too... :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:



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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2020, 05:33:59 pm »
Well that turned into an evening of elder-wrangling - details not required. No modelling done....
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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2020, 01:10:28 am »
There isn't much of Bangladesh which isn't river delta.

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Re: Water Scorpion
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2020, 02:19:15 am »
There isn't much of Bangladesh which isn't river delta.

Hope Auntie is OK H.

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