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A little help required...
« on: April 22, 2019, 01:25:49 am »
The crew here has helped me identify tanks, trains and planes... so why not a helicopter?

I was plotting out some future 1/144 Area 88-related builds and I thought about doing one that depicts the scene following Saki's demise and Shin's dramatic rescue via a SH-3 Seaking helicopter.  So I went out and got the very nice AFV kit and then when I was looking at the reference pic from the manga... I noticed the 'copter in the story has... 4 wheels.  I can't really find anything via google research, so I'm turning it over the membership.  Is this artistic license? A little-known variant? Or am I completely out to lunch in my helicopter spotting...?

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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2019, 01:53:44 am »
There is a variant of the Sikorsky Sea King, the US Coast Guard's HH-3F "Pelican", that has a retractable nose-wheel instead of a fixed tail wheel.  Also, Augusta makes (made?) a version of this for the Italian military. 

However, a Google-image search shows no versions with both tail and nose wheels.  I'd say it was a case of "artistic license", or possibly "artistic confusion."  :)  I suspect it was a case of making it different enough visually to not cause a Cease & Desist order - "preventive artistic license."  ;)

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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2019, 03:37:11 am »
Your safest bet is the "artistic license" route.  And the Pelican (which is also the basis for the HH-3) is a different beast altogether from the Sea King.  Personally, I'd stick with a stock SH-3 King.
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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 06:04:16 am »
I never would have noticed the extra wheel ! Strange for sure probably just a mistake.
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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2019, 07:09:57 am »
I'm sure the artist just got a little carried away! :unsure:
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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2019, 08:06:58 am »
obviously an artistic addon, afaik, Sea Kings have no middle wheel.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2019, 08:30:47 am »
Sea King, with nose wheel added.

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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 02:41:53 pm »

Sea King, with nose wheel added.


Where?  :-\
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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 02:54:01 pm »
Heh... I’m glad you asked... ‘cause I don’t see it either. ;)
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2019, 04:41:36 pm »
Sorry, my bad! I meant that the manga illustration was of a Sea King with a nose wheel added, not the photo (which is of a Sea king).

BTW, you may notice that the illustrations are inconsistent because, where the 1st illustration has the nose wheel, the illustration at the top of the 2nd-last panel shows a radome/similar.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2019, 04:59:51 pm »

BTW, you may notice that the illustrations are inconsistent because, where the 1st illustration has the nose wheel, the illustration at the top of the 2nd-last panel shows a radome/similar.


Perhaps the wheel is retracted in that view?
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2019, 08:00:54 pm »

BTW, you may notice that the illustrations are inconsistent because, where the 1st illustration has the nose wheel, the illustration at the top of the 2nd-last panel shows a radome/similar.


Perhaps the wheel is retracted in that view?

Probably, but the wheel well & the dome occupy the same place on the aircraft, which is where the (avionics?) dome is on the real Sea King.
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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 02:20:45 am »
To me it looks like a creative mistake - as if the artist had originally planned to draw a HH-3 but then reverted to the conventional layout with a tail wheel? I'd book it under artistic freedom, though.

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2019, 07:50:21 pm »
Alright, given the consensus that seems to have been arrived at by the group, I'm calling this one "artistic liberties" and leaving it at that.  I will continue on my merry way with my AMV 1/144 Sea King kit and forget I ever saw a fourth wheel...
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Re: A little help required...
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2019, 01:45:56 am »
Alright, given the consensus that seems to have been arrived at by the group, I'm calling this one "artistic liberties" and leaving it at that.  I will continue on my merry way with my AMV 1/144 Sea King kit and forget I ever saw a fourth wheel...

Oh - I  thought you were going to build it "as seen in the manga" and your question was related only to the real thing as a point of curiosity/information.  :) 

I'd visualized the four-legged Sea King poised above the picture - featuring all four legs - on the stand. 

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