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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 08:17:55 am »
No-one in LM's marketing division could do a quick Web search for F-21?  Or even just on Wikipedia? :banghead:

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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 09:58:14 am »
Erm, am I missing something here?
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 10:24:25 am »
Its...an F-16.  Ain't nothing new about it, except one of the CFTs has a retractable probe.


And the real F-21 was the Kfir


No-one in LM's marketing division could do a quick Web search for F-21?  Or even just on Wikipedia? :banghead:

Of course not.  They're all MBAs and marketing types, not aviation enthusiasts.
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 10:34:27 am »
On a tangent, I remember reading in AvWeek that the F-21 aggressor program was an excellent example of contracted support; IAI hired a lot of experienced ex-USN personnel for its US-based support subsidiary, right down to the flightline staff.  And the pilots loved flying them as Mig-23 analogs.

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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 10:39:45 am »
Its...an F-16.  Ain't nothing new about it, except one of the CFTs has a retractable probe.


And the real F-21 was the Kfir


No-one in LM's marketing division could do a quick Web search for F-21?  Or even just on Wikipedia? :banghead:

Of course not.  They're all MBAs and marketing types, not aviation enthusiasts.
My thoughts exactly Scooter.
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2019, 11:42:02 am »
But they do have a precedent. Boeing renamed the DC-9 series as the Boring 717.
I do not see any of them with four underwing engines and re-fueling equipment.
(The Boeing 717 was Boeing's model number for what became the C-135 series of aircraft.)  :rolleyes:
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2019, 12:33:50 pm »
It looks like the cockpit is upgraded a good bit from the F-16.  They are trying to sell it as comparable capabilities to the F-22/35.  On interesting political aspect may be LM's promise to move F-16 production to India if they order it...by renaming the  Block 70 as the F-21 do they get around that I wonder?
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 02:21:02 pm »
But they do have a precedent. Boeing renamed the DC-9 series as the Boring 717.
I do not see any of them with four underwing engines and re-fueling equipment.
(The Boeing 717 was Boeing's model number for what became the C-135 series of aircraft.)  :rolleyes:

717-200 actually, with the original renumbered 717-100.  :wacko:

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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2019, 02:38:00 pm »
The F-21A Kfirs were leased aircraft and were returned after being used
for a few years, I wouldn't be surprised if the designation was primarily
for bookkeeping purposes.

Anyhow, designations have been cancelled and reused in the past, and at the
moment L-M can call it anything they want, if they apply to make it an official
designation it'll be up to the DoD to say yeah or nay.
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 03:54:58 pm »
It might be for political reasons in India. Politicians and corporate bigwigs can say its an Indian aircraft. “In India, for India” as the article says.
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 06:59:43 pm »
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 09:32:18 pm »
According to the FAA the 818 is srill the DC-9-90 I believe.  I was halfway through training at AirTran on the MD-95 in 2000 when a better offer appeared.  Had I finished I think my Type Rating would have been DC-9-90. 
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Re: Introducing the Lockheed Martin F-21...
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2019, 11:37:32 pm »
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