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It's still early, since the Racing GB is still running and I am fighting with my last submission - but I have plans for an IDS Tonka in post-Millenium CAF colors. The idea behind this is that Canada might have needed, beyond the CF-188/F-18 as interceptor, something for the maritime attack role, much like the German Marineflieger Tornados?
Basis will be the late (and apparently very good) Revell Tornado IDS, built with just some cosmetic changes, appropriate ordnance and a proper CAF paint scheme.
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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force, ~2004
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 07:30:32 pm »
I always loved seeing RAF Tornados with Sea Eagles, but one with Harpoons would look great I bet.
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force, ~2004
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2019, 01:44:34 am »
That's the plan. I think the result will look quite interesting, esp. with a wraparound paint scheme, similar to the early RAF Tonkas but with slightly different FS colors, something like this:



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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force, ~2004
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 08:10:58 am »
Steady progress, in the meantime the Tonka stands on its own feet and I am closing in on the painting phase, even though there's still some surface detail work to do.

While I appreciate the modern Revell kit that I am building, it certainly has its flaws. One issue are the instructions, which are, at times not precise and probably even wrong. The air intake assembly steps appear quite fishy, and I am amazed that the kit does not come with a kind of walls inside of the intake trunks - you can actually look inside and see the VG mechanism?
Furthermore, the wings gloves are very thin - I had a hard time glueing the upper an lower fuselage halves together, and make them stick. It took three attempts and the eventualy use of superglue to hold the parts together, plus several PSR tours. And, finally, this Tonka kit has even a worse solution for the stabilizers than the older Italeri kit. I wonder why no one can simply design a pair of stabilizers with an axis between them - the Italeri Tornado is already prone to losing the stabilizers after light contact with anything, but the later Revell kit is EVEN WORSE! The connecting axis part/thing is so thin and wobbly, it was already a wonder that I got the parts into the rear fuselage without accident... However, it soon fell apart, and I replaced the sh!it with a metal axis. The whole thing appears to me like the Revell Me 262 kit: nice, good detail, but uber-engineered to a point that it harms assembly.


1:72 EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado"; aircraft "(182)715 of the Canadian Air Force 433 (Porcupine) Fighter Bomber Squadron; 3 Wing, CFB Bagotville (Quebec/Canada), 2004 (Whif/Revell kit) - WiP
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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force, ~2004
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2019, 02:39:24 pm »
Other than the slow progress part, this idea sounds GR.eat !

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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force, ~2004
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2019, 04:02:46 am »
Progress remains slow, because the kit/model stubbornly resists any collaboration. Now another wing pylon fell off, this time the wee axis broke, and so I ripped them all off - they will be mounted in fixed position later. I've come to hate the Revell kit - or better those behind it who thought they were smart engineers. Piece of sh!t, IMHO.

More painting progress, though:


1:72 EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado"; aircraft "(182)715 of the Canadian Air Force 433 (Porcupine) Fighter Bomber Squadron; 3 Wing, CFB Bagotville (Quebec/Canada), 2004 (Whif/Revell kit) - WiP
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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force, ~2004
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2019, 08:00:26 pm »
Progress remains slow, because the kit/model stubbornly resists any collaboration. Now another wing pylon fell off, this time the wee axis broke, and so I ripped them all off - they will be mounted in fixed position later. I've come to hate the Revell kit - or better those behind it who thought they were smart engineers. Piece of sh!t, IMHO.

My sentiments exactly...I'm doing the F.3 and it is one of the worst "new" kits I have ever seen.   I will be glad to see it done. 
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force 433 Sq., ~2004
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2019, 11:58:35 pm »
I assume that your F.3 kit is the Italeri mold, which has been re-boxed under the Revell and Tamiya label, too? Well, the Revell IDS is WORSE concerning assembly. It is rich with detail, has a much better cockpit and landing gear, but what is that worth when the thing does not go together...?

Kept on fighting, though, and I got the major painting finished last weekend.

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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force 433 Sq., ~2004
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 12:13:39 am »
I assume that your F.3 kit is the Italeri mold, which has been re-boxed under the Revell and Tamiya label, too? Well, the Revell IDS is WORSE concerning assembly. It is rich with detail, has a much better cockpit and landing gear, but what is that worth when the thing does not go together...?

Kept on fighting, though, and I got the major painting finished last weekend.

That actually sums up a lot of recent Revell kits, the detail is exquisite but the assembly is over complicated and the fit leaves a lot to be desired !.

However it could just be that actual kit you are doing, occasionally you get a lemon that just seems to fight you all the way for whatever reason and just never seem to work right.
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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force 433 Sq., ~2004
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 02:15:43 am »
Well, I rather think that it is flawed by design, literally. The clear parts hardly fit, either, BTW.

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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force 433 Sq., ~2004
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2019, 09:51:48 pm »
That actually sums up a lot of recent Revell kits, the detail is exquisite but the assembly is over complicated and the fit leaves a lot to be desired !.

However it could just be that actual kit you are doing, occasionally you get a lemon that just seems to fight you all the way for whatever reason and just never seem to work right.


I agree, the 1:48 Eurofighter is beautiful in the box but a pig to build - I've started two and finished neither - got two or three 1:72 Tornado's in my stash and intend building at least two this year, will be interesting to see how close to finishing they get. Whatever happens they won't be worse than the 1:48 Italeri kit that's on the bench right now !! (will they  :unsure:)



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Re: EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado" of the Canadian Air Force 433 Sq., ~2004
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 12:23:38 am »
Pulled my self together and started decalling. In order to keep anything toned down, I used generic, black decal strips to create walkway lines. Most markings come from Leading Edge decal sheets (for CAF CF-116 and 188), and I also used some OOB stencils - and the latter immediately silvered... Tried to save the sitiation with decal softener, and it helped a little.  :-\


1:72 EADS (Panavia) CA-182A "Tornado"; aircraft "(182)715 of the Canadian Air Force 433 (Porcupine) Fighter Bomber Squadron; 3 Wing, CFB Bagotville (Quebec/Canada), 2004 (Whif/Revell kit) - WiP
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