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Shackletunderland
« on: December 09, 2017, 02:07:56 am »

zany, zanier, zaniest ?

still beyond my usual skill, but going there anyway  :wacko:

two quite vintage kits, found for cheap, and waiting in my stash for quite some time :
an Airfix Sunderland
a Frog Shackleton






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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 03:52:37 am »
A daring project!
But you'll have to raise the wings a lot, or make a very steep gull-wing.
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 04:14:42 am »
You could graft the upper fuselage of the Sunderland, complete with roots, into the top of the Shackleton perhaps?
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 04:43:10 am »

thanks !

I thought about the wings question just after I had started cutting ... luckily, otherwise it might have discouraged me ;)

In between I thought about it, and began cutting the wing root to place it higher up,
but found out that there is a part in the kit going from within one wing to the other in order to keep them straight and together :
I think I can just use that to attach the wing at the top of the Shackleton fuselage, so it might work out not too difficultly

wait and see


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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2017, 07:12:45 am »
Excellent idea ! I've been wanting up-engine one using Shak engines and props, but this is way better !

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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2017, 07:58:33 am »
Good idea,
I'm experimenting with the Lockheed Constellation instead of the Shackleton and the  Shinmiewa PS-1 hull & wings. The wings will be fitted to a shoulder mount, that I'm creating.
I look forward to your build being completed.

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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2017, 11:55:11 am »
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Something similar was actually proposed using Lancaster bits:
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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2017, 03:26:52 pm »
Oh yeah, this is gonna be GOOOOOD!
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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2017, 03:31:39 pm »
Excellent idea ! I've been wanting up-engine one using Shak engines and props, but this is way better !

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If you do, you'll want to re-align the engines so that they point straight forward. The Sunderland configuration has them pointed 4 degrees outward, which caused a pronounced nose-up flick if power was suddenly reduced. With the extra power of the Griffons that could be a problem.
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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2017, 09:09:12 pm »
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Something similar was actually proposed using Lancaster bits:

That gives me an idea for the 1/72 "Mavis' flying boat and Shackleton spare parts.

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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2017, 02:27:03 am »

I am busy finding a (simple enough for my skills) solution to put the wings higher up ;

what my skills certainly do not allow is to consider angles with a precision of 4 degrees  ;)

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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2017, 06:30:31 am »

I am busy finding a (simple enough for my skills) solution to put the wings higher up ;

what my skills certainly do not allow is to consider angles with a precision of 4 degrees  ;)

 ;D  Perhaps an easier way would be to straighten the leading edge of the wing and shim the trailing edge root. The Sunderland prototype had a straight leading edge, but when the 4-gun Fraser Nash tail turret was fitted it introduced a C of G problem. It was rectified by giving the wings a 4° sweep, but the engine mounts were never modified to adjust for that.
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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 01:38:15 pm »

busy managing the wing attachement ...
it will be high enough, with a kind of shoulder like a Shinmeiwa


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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2017, 12:31:18 pm »

some progress ....





still quite some work to make it water tight ...  :o






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Re: Shackletunderland
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2017, 12:46:50 pm »
and by the way, what about the rest of the Sunderland, shall you ask?
as was noted recently somewhere around here, I like to use all parts or at least most of them,
so there will be a waterline Sunderland (with special experimental floats arrangement)



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