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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2017, 09:58:02 am »
I can still remember being over the moon when the Emhar Fury and Demon appeared, filling slots in my USN fighter evolution. Opened the boxes only to discover the moon has a dark side ;D. The Demon is really horrible.

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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2017, 11:03:23 am »
Lots of bits and bobs going into this one ! Looks good !
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2017, 11:55:19 am »
There's a kind of mission creep going on, where I put some more putty into the intake to smooth it out internally, the fumes melt a bit of the paper-thin plastic, and I have to use more putty to correct it, etc, etc to the point where the intake's going to be all putty before long.

Currently got the fuselage supported nose-up so that the fumes rise straight out of it ASAP in an attempt to halt this cycle.

Also, if you want to build the Fury yourself, do yourself a favour and cut the fuselage half locating-pins off: they're mis-aligned and do more harm than good!  :banghead:
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2017, 02:19:31 pm »
That doesn't sound too good H, but as usual you're overcoming it all.  ;D :thumbsup:

I've got an Emhar Fury, F-94C and Demon. I'm starting to wonder WHY I've got them.....  :banghead:
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2017, 03:00:37 pm »
That doesn't sound too good H, but as usual you're overcoming it all.  ;D :thumbsup:

I've got an Emhar Fury, F-94C and Demon. I'm starting to wonder WHY I've got them.....  :banghead:

Because you thought they were the only game in town for models of those particular aircraft perhaps?

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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2017, 05:07:11 pm »
Also, they're cheap and easy to find at model shows, so you're tempted to fill a gap in your stash for a few quid.

Wings are on and puttied and yet another coat of putty is currently drying in the intake.... :rolleyes:
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2017, 09:39:36 pm »
What putty are you using if it's melting the model?  I haven't had that problem since I stopped using automotive knifing putty.
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2017, 05:12:46 am »
What putty are you using if it's melting the model?  I haven't had that problem since I stopped using automotive knifing putty.

Squadron White. It's only been melting the sanded-paper-thin Evergreen that I made the intake trunking from, and it's stopped doing that since I started supporting it nose-up so the fumes couldn;t stay in there. You couldn't melt Emhar's plastic with a blowlamp...
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2017, 05:42:15 am »
lol good one. I just noticed that saying the name is fun....wait a few years until they develop the Supermarine Sapphire Super Sabre lol
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2017, 04:45:41 pm »
First coat of primer and not looking too shabby if I do say so myself. Few minor tweaks, more primer, then we're into the paint.

Hobbycraft didn't have spray cans of the new RAF colours specified in the Swift instructions (160-odd series) so I had to settle for the tinlets, which means the airbrush will be getting an outing...

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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2017, 06:17:17 pm »
That's looking REALLY good H!  :thumbsup:

Those wings really suit the Fury, and I love the little dorsal intakes too.
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2017, 08:06:00 pm »
That's looking REALLY good H!  :thumbsup:

Those wings really suit the Fury, and I love the little dorsal intakes too.

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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2017, 08:06:50 pm »
I find the comments about the Emhar Fury interesting.  I'm presently working on one at the moment I've had none of the problems mentioned.   Admittedly, I've undertaken an extensive rhinoplasty and moved the Fury wings a little forward (about 8-10mm) in order to make the nose seem a little shorter.   So, I have had the problems with the nose or tail that you've mentioned.  I found the locating pins on the fuselage half were fine.   Perhaps it depends on which Fury kit you've got?   I've avoided the cockpit problems by the rhinoplasty which has resulted in me having to scratchbuilt a complete new cockpit.   Just hunting at the moment for some ejector seats to put in, which will largely fill it up.

Of course, our two models will be very different so can't really be compared.  Your conversion is a great deal more extensive than mine, in many ways.   Yours is looking very nice but I note the different number of location slots on the wing undersurface.  Why?    :thumbsup:
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2017, 08:55:25 pm »
I find the comments about the Emhar Fury interesting.  I'm presenting working on one at the moment I've had none of the problems mentioned.   Admittedly, I've undertaken an extensive rhinoplasty and moved the Fury wings a little forward (about 8-10mm) in order to make the nose seem a little shorter.   So, I have had the problems with the nose or tail that you've mentioned.  I found the locating pins on the fuselage half were fine.   Perhaps it depends on which Fury kit you've got?   I've avoided the cockpit problems by the rhinoplasty which has resulted in me having to scratchbuilt a complete new cockpit.   Just hunting at the moment for some ejector seats to put in, which will largely fill it up.

Of course, our two models will be very different so can't really be compared.  Your conversion is a great deal more extensive than mine, in many ways.   Yours is looking very nice but I note the different number of location slots on the wing undersurface.  Why?    :thumbsup:


Different number of slots left vs right =refuelling probe under one wing: yours should be the same.

Different numbers of slots vs the standard Fury = I was originally going to leave off the wing tanks entirely, but then I decided to replace them, and their pylons, with more 'British' ones from a Hawk. The Hawk pylons use pegs rather than tabs, so they have holes in the wing, not slots.

Once my fuselage halved were together, one half of the fuselage was up while the other was down, leading to having to sand the entire joint and lose any of the raised detail that crosses it.

In all fairness, the Emhar Fury is no worse than many an old kit from the 1960s, but a) it's not from the '60s (first released 1990), and b) I've got it right next to a new Airfix Swift which makes it look very, very sick by comparison...
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Re: North American Supermarine Sapphire Sabre
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2017, 10:51:08 pm »
......

Now that says "dragon" to me for some reason.  It's looking verr good indeed there.
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