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A different Hunter T12

Started by PR19_Kit, November 19, 2014, 09:03:53 AM

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Knightflyer on November 20, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: Martin H on November 20, 2014, 08:21:04 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 20, 2014, 05:43:52 AM
Quote from: Weaver on November 20, 2014, 04:50:18 AM
p.s. I've had over a week of "Teford Lurgi" too... :rolleyes:  Travel the country, meet new people, catch their germs........

I'm afraid you probably caught it from me, terribly sorry.  :-\
Yeah, kit gifted the lurgi to me as well
I'm quite thankful I only shook hands with Kit now and didn't hang around the stand!  :o

I'm a VERY generous guy, it may already be too late......... ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

Quote from: Martin H on November 20, 2014, 08:21:04 AM

Just a quick note. Only 10 conversions have been cast. And I have no current plans to do any more.  Two went down under to Rickshaw, one to Kit, one will be going to Jaybee for his part in providing the canopies, and one was put togeather by me as a test run (ill finish it some day).

I've got one of your tandem Hunter conversions Martin (few years ago), what's the difference between it and these you're talking about ?
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Compare the one you have with the one shown in Kit's 2nd photo ;D theres a lot more resin involved for a start lol
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 20, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
Quote from: Knightflyer on November 20, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: Martin H on November 20, 2014, 08:21:04 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 20, 2014, 05:43:52 AM
Quote from: Weaver on November 20, 2014, 04:50:18 AM
p.s. I've had over a week of "Teford Lurgi" too... :rolleyes:  Travel the country, meet new people, catch their germs........

I'm afraid you probably caught it from me, terribly sorry.  :-\
Yeah, kit gifted the lurgi to me as well
I'm quite thankful I only shook hands with Kit now and didn't hang around the stand!  :o

I'm a VERY generous guy, it may already be too late......... ;D

Changing your name to Mary, are you? ;)
How to reduce carbon emissions - Tip #1 - Walk to the Bar for drinks.

rickshaw

Quote from: kitnut617 on November 20, 2014, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: Martin H on November 20, 2014, 08:21:04 AM

Just a quick note. Only 10 conversions have been cast. And I have no current plans to do any more.  Two went down under to Rickshaw, one to Kit, one will be going to Jaybee for his part in providing the canopies, and one was put togeather by me as a test run (ill finish it some day).

I've got one of your tandem Hunter conversions Martin (few years ago), what's the difference between it and these you're talking about ?

This new one is made with a new master and designed to fit the Revell kit.  Whereas the old one was designed to work with the Matchbox kit (and could be made to work with the Airfix and I'd assume Frog one as well).   This new one replaces the entire front fuselage.   It is also designed to be a more realistic cockpit depth and dashboard.  Which means you can fit ejector seats in it.
How to reduce carbon emissions - Tip #1 - Walk to the Bar for drinks.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: rickshaw on November 20, 2014, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 20, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
Quote from: Knightflyer on November 20, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: Martin H on November 20, 2014, 08:21:04 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 20, 2014, 05:43:52 AM
Quote from: Weaver on November 20, 2014, 04:50:18 AM
p.s. I've had over a week of "Teford Lurgi" too... :rolleyes:  Travel the country, meet new people, catch their germs........

I'm afraid you probably caught it from me, terribly sorry.  :-\
Yeah, kit gifted the lurgi to me as well
I'm quite thankful I only shook hands with Kit now and didn't hang around the stand!  :o

I'm a VERY generous guy, it may already be too late......... ;D

Changing your name to Mary, are you? ;)

No, that's Mrs_PR19's name.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Quote from: rickshaw on November 20, 2014, 05:58:14 PM
   It is also designed to be a more realistic cockpit depth and dashboard.  Which means you can fit ejector seats in it.

Exactly, as I only found out this evening, well done Brian.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

Quote from: rickshaw on November 20, 2014, 05:58:14 PM
Quote from: kitnut617 on November 20, 2014, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: Martin H on November 20, 2014, 08:21:04 AM

Just a quick note. Only 10 conversions have been cast. And I have no current plans to do any more.  Two went down under to Rickshaw, one to Kit, one will be going to Jaybee for his part in providing the canopies, and one was put togeather by me as a test run (ill finish it some day).

I've got one of your tandem Hunter conversions Martin (few years ago), what's the difference between it and these you're talking about ?

This new one is made with a new master and designed to fit the Revell kit.  Whereas the old one was designed to work with the Matchbox kit (and could be made to work with the Airfix and I'd assume Frog one as well).   This new one replaces the entire front fuselage.   It is also designed to be a more realistic cockpit depth and dashboard.  Which means you can fit ejector seats in it.

That means I have an early version as well then.

Gondor
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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

#23
Lots of progress on the T12 over the last few days. I cleaned up the wings, which was very little work after the inner mould runner was sawn off. The trailing edge flash almost fell off it was so thin.  :thumbsup:

I sanded down the trailing edges a tad, which will require some re-scribing later on but not that much, and then fettled the inboard edges a tad to get them to mate up with the new resin fuselage, but that was minimal too. The tailplanes needed a small trim on the inboard end of the elevators to clear the bullet fairing on the fin, but that was easy.





That could not be said of the parabrake housing though. Because the re-heat exhaust in the Super Hunter conversion is shorter than the standard F6/FGA9 jetpipe the Revell parabrake housing looks far too long as it overhung the jetpipe by  almost 5 scale feet! That needed a lot of cutting and shutting and an equal amount of Dremelling to get it to fit nicely and a fair amount of PSR to fair it into the fuselage. It still overhangs somewhat but it's not too bad now.



The wings and tailplanes were superglued in place and fitted beautifully, well done OGL and Rickshaw.  :thumbsup:

I used slow thick glue to start off with and then ran the thinner type along the joints and inside the intakes to weld the wings in place. The tailplanes only need a smidgeon of the thick glue and they were done. I also added the standard F6 airbrake as I'm sure a T12  wouldn't have been any different.





I'm going to prime it before I go any further as there's bound to be some remedial work required, but the major part of the construction is done.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Wooksta!

Except there should be a NACA vent where the airbrake goes.  Production 1083s would probably have had the same side petal air brakes as the F3.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: The Wooksta! on November 28, 2014, 05:21:55 PM
Except there should be a NACA vent where the airbrake goes.  Production 1083s would probably have had the same side petal air brakes as the F3.

There was going to be a NACA intake on the original single seat P.1083 Super Hunter, yes, and it's included in the conversion.

And the singleton real T12 didn't have TSR2 radar either, but this is my Hunter T12 and not a P.1083, and it's in my Whiffworld too....

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Wooksta!


Weaver

Wasn't the NACA intake for nozzle cooling? If so, maybe you could put a pair of small scoops on the side.
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rickshaw

Good to see the conversion being used, Kit.  Coming along nicely there and it looks like a bought kit, the contours flow into each other very nicely indeed!   :thumbsup:
How to reduce carbon emissions - Tip #1 - Walk to the Bar for drinks.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on November 29, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
Wasn't the NACA intake for nozzle cooling? If so, maybe you could put a pair of small scoops on the side.

Apparently so, but on the T12s they bled off the boundary layer at the main intakes and fed it down the fuselage to cool the exhaust..............  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit