Eduard

[Beermonster58]

Anything thst gets away from the current fad for producing zillions of stupidly tiny parts (regardless of scale) gets my blessing. Doubly so if it means getting rid of those dreadful p/e parts! 😉😂.

I hate p/e parts with a passion. I'm not generally a fan of multi media kits either but, this approach seens to be a worthy compromise.

I love Bf-109s but, I don't love anything bigger than 1/72. However, I'm pretty sure that if this concept is a success then we might see similar items being produced in the one true scale? 😉😂

[Wardukw]

Anything thst gets away from the current fad for producing zillions of stupidly tiny parts (regardless of scale) gets my blessing. Doubly so if it means getting rid of those dreadful p/e parts! 😉😂.

I hate p/e parts with a passion. I'm not generally a fan of multi media kits either but, this approach seens to be a worthy compromise.

I love Bf-109s but, I don't love anything bigger than 1/72. However, I'm pretty sure that if this concept is a success then we might see similar items being produced in the one true scale? 😉😂

Yes one true scale ,, 48th   
I've done a huge amount of work with tiny PE parts with all this armour stuff but with aircraft in all scale most of the time i don't see the point ,,seat belts yest and when you can see em ,,instrument panels are cool too but man on a 72nd scale fighter  of any type it's pointless cause ya just can see anything ,,large scale like 48th or 32nd some cockpits you can see into with ease but other parts can't be seen yet the JMN's out there will put them in anyway .. yeah i agree with ya Monster mate ,,i'm more than happy to build a  plane with zero PE ,,armour tho ,,,well i only work in 35th so it's quite easy 

[Beermonster58]

Anything thst gets away from the current fad for producing zillions of stupidly tiny parts (regardless of scale) gets my blessing. Doubly so if it means getting rid of those dreadful p/e parts! 😉😂.

I hate p/e parts with a passion. I'm not generally a fan of multi media kits either but, this approach seens to be a worthy compromise.

I love Bf-109s but, I don't love anything bigger than 1/72. However, I'm pretty sure that if this concept is a success then we might see similar items being produced in the one true scale? 😉😂

Yes one true scale ,, 48th   
I've done a huge amount of work with tiny PE parts with all this armour stuff but with aircraft in all scale most of the time i don't see the point ,,seat belts yest and when you can see em ,,instrument panels are cool too but man on a 72nd scale fighter  of any type it's pointless cause ya just can see anything ,,large scale like 48th or 32nd some cockpits you can see into with ease but other parts can't be seen yet the JMN's out there will put them in anyway .. yeah i agree with ya Monster mate ,,i'm more than happy to build a  plane with zero PE ,,armour tho ,,,well i only work in 35th so it's quite easy 

I don't model anything larger than 1/72 although I have several larger scale kits recieved as gifts. In 1/72, as far as I'm concerned, cockpits are largely
Irrelevant. I'll use as few parts as possible, give them a basic paint job and leave it at that.
I don't see the point in silly, over detailed interiors with a zillion stupidly small parts that will be invisible with everything buttoned up. I feed such parts to the bin monster! 👹😂.

Interestingly, Airfix actually suggest omitting a lot of interior parts from their excellent Wellington kits. They even provide an illustration showing which parts will not be seen.

I'm all for putting as little effort into interiors as possible! 😂. Its the exterior that really catches the eye so, that's where the effort goes.

However, I like the Eduard concept here and, I forgive your heretical transgression on the aspect of scale😉😂. I think this is an idea other companies might adopt.

By the way, I also model 1/144 scale. Is that too teeny? 🤣👍

[PR19_Kit]

By the way, I also model 1/144 scale. Is that too teeny? 🤣👍

1/144 scale is too teeny for many items, but it's well night perfect for airliners and other similar sized  aeroplanes.

[Charlie_c67]

By the way, I also model 1/144 scale. Is that too teeny? 🤣👍

1/144 scale is too teeny for many items, but it's well night perfect for airliners and other similar sized  aeroplanes.

1/200 is another possibility for the space starved, though only Hasegawa seem to have done a half decent airliner range in the scale. Haven't built one yet myself, but have one or two in the stash which I hope will be straight forward.

[Beermonster58]

By the way, I also model 1/144 scale. Is that too teeny? 🤣👍

1/144 scale is too teeny for many items, but it's well night perfect for airliners and other similar sized  aeroplanes.

No argument here! These are the subjects I prefer in 1/144😃

[Rick Lowe]

Interestingly, Airfix actually suggest omitting a lot of interior parts from their excellent Wellington kits. They even provide an illustration showing which parts will not be seen.

Now that is interesting - looks like someone was thinking. 
Also good that the omitted parts aren't vital to the build, or structural. 

[Wardukw]

Anything thst gets away from the current fad for producing zillions of stupidly tiny parts (regardless of scale) gets my blessing. Doubly so if it means getting rid of those dreadful p/e parts! 😉😂.

I hate p/e parts with a passion. I'm not generally a fan of multi media kits either but, this approach seens to be a worthy compromise.

I love Bf-109s but, I don't love anything bigger than 1/72. However, I'm pretty sure that if this concept is a success then we might see similar items being produced in the one true scale? 😉😂

Yes one true scale ,, 48th   
I've done a huge amount of work with tiny PE parts with all this armour stuff but with aircraft in all scale most of the time i don't see the point ,,seat belts yest and when you can see em ,,instrument panels are cool too but man on a 72nd scale fighter  of any type it's pointless cause ya just can see anything ,,large scale like 48th or 32nd some cockpits you can see into with ease but other parts can't be seen yet the JMN's out there will put them in anyway .. yeah i agree with ya Monster mate ,,i'm more than happy to build a  plane with zero PE ,,armour tho ,,,well i only work in 35th so it's quite easy 

I don't model anything larger than 1/72 although I have several larger scale kits recieved as gifts. In 1/72, as far as I'm concerned, cockpits are largely
Irrelevant. I'll use as few parts as possible, give them a basic paint job and leave it at that.
I don't see the point in silly, over detailed interiors with a zillion stupidly small parts that will be invisible with everything buttoned up. I feed such parts to the bin monster! 👹😂.

Interestingly, Airfix actually suggest omitting a lot of interior parts from their excellent Wellington kits. They even provide an illustration showing which parts will not be seen.

I'm all for putting as little effort into interiors as possible! 😂. Its the exterior that really catches the eye so, that's where the effort goes.

However, I like the Eduard concept here and, I forgive your heretical transgression on the aspect of scale😉😂. I think this is an idea other companies might adopt.

By the way, I also model 1/144 scale. Is that too teeny? 🤣👍

I have that same problem with model tanks with full interiors ,,there's not damn point to it ,,you can't see jack and man some dudes put huge amounts of effort into em as well ,, then they glue the upper hull on and bongo ,,all gone 
Your so on the money with aircraft cockpits to ,, again so much effort for very little payback in return ,,like you said ,,the outside is where the glory is and here's another thing .. aircraft sitting on display tables at shows ,, nobody is going to be able to see inside em anyway and 72nd scale fighter cockpits ,,my god ,,so small ,, much like 1/144 scale ,, see how i got that in there   
Airfix  have seen the light so to speck ,, so much detail ,,so little view ,,no point so lets just dump parts ya can't see ,, brilliant 
Like my M6 HST build ,,yup i went nuts on that with the detail but you can see every bloody thing so i had to ,,thats my excuse and i'm sticking to it 
When i first started to build model planes it was 72nd all they way ,,but i could also see quite well and my hand's worked so much better than now ,,then i got this love of multi engined aircraft and when i brought my first one ,, a JU88 of all things ( my fav twin ) it went from there mate ,,then i discovered Monogram ,,48th time but still did 48th ... i got back into 48th when Guy ( Old Wombat) sent me a model ,,dude the bug hit hard after not building a model plane of any sort for something like 25yrs easy ,,possibly 30yrs .,,now i've got three i haven't finished yet and man i've gotta get them done 

[Beermonster58]

Interestingly, Airfix actually suggest omitting a lot of interior parts from their excellent Wellington kits. They even provide an illustration showing which parts will not be seen.

Now that is interesting - looks like someone was thinking. 
Also good that the omitted parts aren't vital to the build, or structural. 

Agreed. I think it's a very sensible and pragmatic approach. I would have binned anything that couldn't be seen anyway. I heaved most of the interior (aft of the cockpit) of the Airfix Shackleton into the bin as well.

[Beermonster58]

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I have that same problem with model tanks with full interiors ,,there's not damn point to it ,,you can't see jack and man some dudes put huge amounts of effort into em as well ,, then they glue the upper hull on and bongo ,,all gone 
Your so on the money with aircraft cockpits to ,, again so much effort for very little payback in return ,,like you said ,,the outside is where the glory is and here's another thing .. aircraft sitting on display tables at shows ,, nobody is going to be able to see inside em anyway and 72nd scale fighter cockpits ,,my god ,,so small ,, much like 1/144 scale ,, see how i got that in there   
Airfix  have seen the light so to speck ,, so much detail ,,so little view ,,no point so lets just dump parts ya can't see ,, brilliant 
Like my M6 HST build ,,yup i went nuts on that with the detail but you can see every bloody thing so i had to ,,thats my excuse and i'm sticking to it 
When i first started to build model planes it was 72nd all they way ,,but i could also see quite well and my hand's worked so much better than now ,,then i got this love of multi engined aircraft and when i brought my first one ,, a JU88 of all things ( my fav twin ) it went from there mate ,,then i discovered Monogram ,,48th time but still did 48th ... i got back into 48th when Guy ( Old Wombat) sent me a model ,,dude the bug hit hard after not building a model plane of any sort for something like 25yrs easy ,,possibly 30yrs .,,now i've got three i haven't finished yet and man i've gotta get them done 

Personally, regardless of scale, I'm all for keeping models simple,especially with regard to interiors. By all means provide a basic interior but, leave it at that. For the detail fanatics, the Aftermarket companies will provide 😉😂

[jcf]

The "payback in return" is that the person who built the model feels a sense of accomplishment.
It's their model, they can build it however they choose. Wanting to build a model with lots of fiddly
detail that isn't visible afterwards doesn't make someone a JMN. If it gives them joy, then it gives them joy. "I know you can't see it, but I know it's there" is a valid position.
If a model kit producer chooses to include interior detail that isn't visible afterwards because there's a market, then that's a business decision to which folks outside of the company are not privy.

[Old Wombat]

The "payback in return" is that the person who built the model feels a sense of accomplishment.
It's their model, they can build it however they choose. Wanting to build a model with lots of fiddly detail that isn't visible afterwards doesn't make someone a JMN.
If it gives them joy, then it gives them joy. "I know you can't see it, but I know it's there" is a valid position.
If a model kit producer chooses to include interior detail that isn't visible afterwards because there's a market, then that's a business decision to which folks outside of the company are not privy.

I'm in this camp!

The more internal detail provided, the more I'll put in, because I can & I've built the model for me, no-one else - plus it gives me somewhere to experiment with new paints & techniques where it won't ruin the build if it goes tits-up.

With 1/35 armour, I'm often frustrated by the lack of internal detail, especially on tanks & AFVs with big crew/dismount hatches - the Dragon "Black Label" Saladin was/is a perfect example of this.

[NARSES2]

The "payback in return" is that the person who built the model feels a sense of accomplishment.
It's their model, they can build it however they choose. Wanting to build a model with lots of fiddly detail that isn't visible afterwards doesn't make someone a JMN.
If it gives them joy, then it gives them joy. "I know you can't see it, but I know it's there" is a valid position.
If a model kit producer chooses to include interior detail that isn't visible afterwards because there's a market, then that's a business decision to which folks outside of the company are not privy.

I'm in this camp!

Me as well    After all "it's your model", enjoy it however you build it. 

[Rick Lowe]

But think of all the spare parts available for whiffery...
sometime...
when you remember you have them...
and where they are... 

[Charlie_c67]

For those of us not wanting to get entangled with fitting etchings to plastic or resin ordnance, Eduard seem to have a solution. More detailed and expensive than the Hasegawa sets, personally I'm hoping it'll expand to the lesser spotted British, European and Brazilian munitions....

https://www.keymodelworld.com/article/new-eduard-172-sparrows-paveways-and-jdams?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=KMW%20scale%20newsletter%20-%2007.04.2026&utm_id=01KNKKQCAY1DD0YCBHDX9CBA74&_kx=mZdNldUm3Co9dO8Cj-RnraekS_5VOEc2tfrGgRHlCkY.R2B2xJ