Author Topic: P-824 or 823 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)  (Read 9192 times)

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Offline Caveman

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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2010, 09:15:45 am »
Tophe... you are nuts :)

and brilliant

if i may suggest an alternative way of constructing your craziness?

linking the tails adds some rigidity and the diagonal wings mean more surface area or if it takes your fancy more room for offensive weapons :wacko: ...
With regards to the overlapping props I would suggest simply offsetting the horizontal pair forwards or backwards by a foot or so.
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 11:17:38 am »
Funny idea, thanks Caveman! :thumbsup:
Seriously, I forgot to say that the P-824 view was made from the 3-view at http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/na_twinmustang.php
And here is the result of the first gluing:
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2010, 08:51:00 am »
With actual parts glued together, truncated and all, the drawing project is changing a little.
Here it is now, tomporarily with tape, not glue yet. I will show on a drawing the principle.
 
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2010, 08:54:08 am »
Me like the look of the plane :)

Ahem... More seriously... I know you're love assymetrics plane, but I suggest (with my poor education level in mechs and aerodynamics) to you to have the same length for the wing part...

And why not liking the tails by stabs to be something like this (in the front view) =>
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2010, 09:35:00 am »
Wow, I am not skillfull enough to scratchbuild an annular tail... sorry (and congratulations for the idea).
Well, I have given up the idea of adapting the upper part of the wing (of one half-P-82) with the lower part of the wing (for the next half-P-82). Too difficult for me (and it could not fly but I don't care for a desk model). So... two of the elements will have their canopies on the same side, while the third will make a different layout, in an asymmetric position. So this third could be without canopy (putty is already on) and with a not truncated central wing (I can still change my mind). The overall symmetry is lost, all right, but this I can do, I think.
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2010, 12:32:01 pm »
The overall symmetry is lost, all right, but this I can do, I think.

Tophe,

Symmetry? I didn't think you 'did symmetry' at all...........  -_- ;D
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2010, 09:24:30 pm »
The original P-823 was symmetric all right but completely crazy (enough...). The idea in level flight to have at least one pilot with legs above the head was a good piece of delirium. But the main point is that my models are not for contest, to take into the hand and turn in every direction, their goal is to be pleasant for me on a shelf, or on a single picture. So the 2 canopies on the same side, that someone may see all at once, are better than a surprising (difficult to understand) belly scoop above on the second fuselage, while the third is somewhere behind. I show below a picture of the intended aspect, but the tapes run loose and it does not stand well, sorry. (I have seen yesterday a film, "Little Miss Sunshine", where the daddy-hero said "never say 'sorry', only loosers say that"... so I confirm: I am sorry...) ;D
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2010, 09:21:53 am »
No more tape but glue, with the beginning of putty & sanding, standing solidly now:
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2010, 09:32:35 am »
Dude.  :wub:
"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2010, 12:43:25 am »
After a first layer of golden paint...
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2010, 08:52:38 am »
And its gold too!! Sweet!
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2010, 02:16:05 pm »
I think those unions are authentic sculptures, or I feel in that way.
This is a american simbol like Cocacola working to be a strong expression.
You would be near to the art.
Think in this figures in 1:1 escale in a park or square of your city.
Thanks for the concept.
Hey! Why you don't make a diorama with the people visit that place?



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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2010, 07:57:59 pm »
 :lol: Funny idea, Pablo, thanks! Probably I will not create this diorama but you help me greatly understanding (and even appreciating) my own craziness... :blink: ;D
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2010, 06:45:25 am »
Craziness.... everybody need a little bit of your craziness  :blink: and some people one or two tons.
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Re: P-824 Twin-Tailsittang (Crazy Mustangs step 5)
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2010, 07:09:35 am »
The P-823 Twin-Tailsittang is finished:
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