A little work in progress

[kitnut617]

That is certainly very impressive Martin    IMHO, it looks mainly like the ancient siege equipment that you see from centuries ago, I wonder if this was the result of Stalingrad or other such battles.

As an aside, does anyone know what the reload time is for guns that big ?

[The Wooksta!]

More the result of Hitler getting one of his nads shot off.  Very Freudian.

[NARSES2]

As an aside, does anyone know what the reload time is for guns that big ?

In the Royal Navy the final type of battleship guns were about 1 round every 50 seconds, but it depended on the turret and ammunition configuration. I'm not sure at all how it would have worked out in this configuration and this mounting.

[zenrat]

Would the Tallboys go all the way through and explode underneath or would they go off inside?

I'm having trouble visualising the size of this oh glorious leader.  Would it be possible to hav a picture with something we know the size of to give some context.  A 1/72 aircraft for example.

Thank you.

[Rheged]

As an aside, does anyone know what the reload time is for guns that big ?

My sources tell me that one round per gun per minute was about right for a prolonged action.  An idle thought,  would the recoil if all three were fired together have unfortunate effects on the turret/tank mechanisms?

[scooter]

As an aside, does anyone know what the reload time is for guns that big ?

My sources tell me that one round per gun per minute was about right for a prolonged action.

Wiki sources the 16"/50 Mk7s on the Iowas as 2 per minute.  For a tracked operation, I'd probably go 1/minute.  Fire three rounds, creep to the next position and repeat

How's your sanity after all the links?

[PR19_Kit]

 An idle thought,  would the recoil if all three were fired together have unfortunate effects on the turret/tank mechanisms?

It'd surely have unfortunate effects on any 'Poor Bloody Infantry' who happened to be within audible range when it fired! 

[Rheged]

 An idle thought,  would the recoil if all three were fired together have unfortunate effects on the turret/tank mechanisms?

It'd surely have unfortunate effects on any 'Poor Bloody Infantry' who happened to be within audible range when it fired! 

....and it would need close infantry support otherwise a couple of plucky chaps with a big steel bar could creep up on it, stick their bar in the works and immobilise the whole thing.  Perhaps the Panzer-Oberkommando  would have formed Tauber Infanteriebataillonen to provide support?

[Martin H]

I'm having trouble visualising the size of this oh glorious leader.  Would it be possible to hav a picture with something we know the size of to give some context.  A 1/72 aircraft for example.
Thank you.

No problem.
Take one dicast Panzer IV whirlwind quad flak........................


Then place said flak unit alongside the monster....................

[zenrat]

Hmm, yes.  Thank you.
Got it now.
Wow.

[NARSES2]

As an aside, does anyone know what the reload time is for guns that big ?

My sources tell me that one round per gun per minute was about right for a prolonged action.  An idle thought,  would the recoil if all three were fired together have unfortunate effects on the turret/tank mechanisms?

I'm still trying to work out how many support vehicles it would need to cart more then 10 minutes worth of ammunition ? It's actually beyond impractical and my brain just won't accept it 

Would the Tallboys go all the way through and explode underneath or would they go off inside?

Go all the way through I would have thought. But you'd only need a near miss to turn it over, did I mention it's impracticability ?

[kitnut617]

As an aside, does anyone know what the reload time is for guns that big ?

My sources tell me that one round per gun per minute was about right for a prolonged action.  An idle thought,  would the recoil if all three were fired together have unfortunate effects on the turret/tank mechanisms?

I'm still trying to work out how many support vehicles it would need to cart more then 10 minutes worth of ammunition ? It's actually beyond impractical and my brain just won't accept it 

Would the Tallboys go all the way through and explode underneath or would they go off inside?

Go all the way through I would have thought. But you'd only need a near miss to turn it over, did I mention it's impracticability ?

It's been recorded that at least one Tallboy had a perfect hit on the Tirpitz (the last attack), but I can't remember if it went all the way through. In the Dam Busters book I've read (the full version), after an attack on a submarine pen, the boffins went to inspect the results of the Tallboy/Grand Slams. One had hit the pen dead center (the idea was to hit just to the outside of the walls), they found that the bomb had only just penetrated the 16 odd feet of re-enforced concrete before it exploded, everything inside the pen was squashed against the interior walls and the huge blast doors were bulged out like an inflated balloon. I would say that depending on what armour thickness the top side of this monster was to be would determine whether the Tallboy would go straight through it.  Keep in mind that the Lancaster couldn't get to the altitude that Wallis had designed the bomb to be dropped at, it wasn't until they started testing with a B-29 that the bombs were reaching the speeds that they were designed for.

[PR19_Kit]

It's been recorded that at least one Tallboy had a perfect hit on the Tirpitz (the last attack), but I can't remember if it went all the way through.

IIRC it did, and exploded underneath the stern, wrecking the steering gear and props too. But then more of them either hit or near-missed and did her in for good.

[Martin H]

Still a few bits to do, but almost there with this bit of Tallboy bait.







Yes its in the scheme some of the Kriegs Marine capital ships wore early in the war. Thats because it's crew are all ex KM Surface fleet, and treat their new mount as a ship not an AFV! Not far of the mark when you think about it. Its a land based monitor after all 

[zenrat]

Woo yeah!