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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2019, 06:47:58 am »

Pratt & Whitney must have copied Soloviev's design I'm sure...……….  ;D

Of course they did  ;)   even though the C-141 went into service in 1965 and Il-76 in 1974    :angel:
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2019, 10:46:05 am »
Indeed! I noticed the similarity of the Il-76 nacelles to the 'Tube Engines' when one came to RIAT some years ago.

Of course they were totally independently designed and manufactured by Soloviev…………………..  :-\

The Wiki page on the Soloviev engine says '.....and had specifications similar to those of Western analogues such as Pratt & Whitney JT8D....'

Pratt & Whitney must have copied Soloviev's design I'm sure...……….  ;D

Meh, analogue/analog simply means comparable in that context.

Nacelle appearance similarities are largely meaningless as nacelle =/= to engine.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2019, 11:25:48 am »
Indeed! I noticed the similarity of the Il-76 nacelles to the 'Tube Engines' when one came to RIAT some years ago.

Of course they were totally independently designed and manufactured by Soloviev…………………..  :-\

The Wiki page on the Soloviev engine says '.....and had specifications similar to those of Western analogues such as Pratt & Whitney JT8D....'

Pratt & Whitney must have copied Soloviev's design I'm sure...……….  ;D

Meh, analogue/analog simply means comparable in that context.

Nacelle appearance similarities are largely meaningless as nacelle =/= to engine.


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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2019, 04:48:04 pm »
I wonder if noise reduction had anything to do with the varying nacelles on the TF-33 and JT3-D family?  or was it efficiency?

The early 707's and KC-135's were notorious as being loud (I have a very clear memory of being close to a early KC-135 on a (water injection?) takeoff and it was a very moving, bone shaking, crackling experience).  The slightly later B-52H had the "cut" nacelles and would not be worried about decibels, but the next in line the C-141 was required to be civilly certified in the hopes of some commercial sales that never quite happened.   
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2019, 02:15:39 am »

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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2019, 04:08:32 am »
I dug my Nova kit of the C-141B out of The Loft last night, as it's been decades since I saw it last. To my amazement it has metal landing gear.  :thumbsup:

And jeepers, it's a big 'ole thing for sure! Makes a Herc look like a Skyvan!  :o

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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2019, 04:31:12 am »
...I'm a bit flummoxed when it comes to figuring out how to Whiff it though, and painting it in an RAF scheme would be a tad hackneyed.

Civilian cargo airline?
Australia Post?
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2019, 05:00:52 am »
...I'm a bit flummoxed when it comes to figuring out how to Whiff it though, and painting it in an RAF scheme would be a tad hackneyed.

Civilian cargo airline?
Australia Post?
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2019, 06:46:26 am »
I dug my Nova kit of the C-141B out of The Loft last night, as it's been decades since I saw it last. To my amazement it has metal landing gear.  :thumbsup:

And jeepers, it's a big 'ole thing for sure! Makes a Herc look like a Skyvan!  :o

I'm a bit flummoxed when it comes to figuring out how to Whiff it though, and painting it in an RAF scheme would be a tad hackneyed.

That is a very rare kit Kit, all the Nova moulds were obtained by Rick's Models but were destroyed in an accident during a move in 1989
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2019, 06:51:48 am »
Tactical transport, Israeli AF, camo.
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Very high altitude stellar observatory with extended wings so it could go even higher.  :wacko: :rolleyes: NASA of course!
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2019, 09:21:23 am »
I dug my Nova kit of the C-141B out of The Loft last night, as it's been decades since I saw it last. To my amazement it has metal landing gear.  :thumbsup:

And jeepers, it's a big 'ole thing for sure! Makes a Herc look like a Skyvan!  :o

I'm a bit flummoxed when it comes to figuring out how to Whiff it though, and painting it in an RAF scheme would be a tad hackneyed.

That is a very rare kit Kit, all the Nova moulds were obtained by Rick's Models but were destroyed in an accident during a move in 1989


Really? Wow!

I better take some moulds from it then, when I opened the box it was the first time it had EVER been opened, it still had the original Scotch tape on the ends!   :o
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2019, 07:12:33 pm »
Stretched fuselage double-decker airliner.  :wacko:
Along the lines of the proposed, but never built, conversion
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2019, 07:17:02 pm »
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2019, 03:36:49 am »
Does anyone have/know a sketch where the fuselage plugs for the A-to-B conversion were inserted?

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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2019, 05:43:47 am »

I'm a bit flummoxed when it comes to figuring out how to Whiff it though, and painting it in an RAF scheme would be a tad hackneyed.

I wasn't even aware Nova had done a kit of it.

Anyway how about doing it as a Fleet Air Arm bird, serving in support of the Nuclear Deterrent ? Could be ferrying bits and pieces, and personnel to far flung Polaris sub bases ?
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