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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2018, 09:43:46 am »
Oh yes, I recall you asking that on your own thread.

I don't know of any probe and drogue tankers in 1/200 sadly.

I found I've got a vacform C-141B in The Loft, and it's 1/72. It's MASSIVE!  :o
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2019, 11:43:37 am »
The sole civil Starlifter visiting Australia in both its original markings and in NASA livery.

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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2019, 11:48:15 am »
Cor, I didn't know there were any civvie -141s. It looks pretty smart too.

I recall DrawDecals did a sheet of one in FedEx at one time, and that looked great.

I ought to build mine at some stage, it's pretty impressive as a model.

The NASA scheme looks REALLY good too!  :thumbsup:
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2019, 07:35:43 am »
Very nice ! Looks good in both schemes, neither of which I've seen before. Cheers !
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2019, 10:53:17 am »
Wow, someone needs to do decals for that.  :wub:
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2019, 09:54:17 am »
If you are ever in the mid-Atlantic area of the United States, the Air Mobility Command Museum at Dover Air Force Base is a great way to see a great array of “trash haulers”. They have the first C-141, one of only 4 that did not get the stretch and a C-141B that is open every day for walking around in. Also the C-5 and lots of others.

Need more Whif Starlifters on here Hmmm maybe a KC, Launcher, other users, or other derivatives....
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2019, 12:01:11 pm »
I had this idea of 'what-If' Boeing won the contest. I've match up the 'A' with a C-135 fuselage and it's about the same length and shape, I'm thinking of switching the C-135 wing to the top of the C-135 fuselage but have it in anhedral, and then use the engine nacelles of the 'A'.  It's a work in progress sort of thing with no rush to it so who knows when it'll get done   ;D
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2019, 02:45:57 pm »
Aren't the engines of the C-141B the same as the As?

IIRC they're both TF33P-7s, military versions of the JT3-D7s that the DC8-63s had.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2019, 06:51:58 am »
Combat Models (USA) does both variants in 1/72 vacuform and I have both of them. And the nacelles look identical Kit.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2019, 02:40:35 pm »
Aren't the engines of the C-141B the same as the As?

IIRC they're both TF33P-7s, military versions of the JT3-D7s that the DC8-63s had.

Same engines on all Star Lifter versions, but I think Kitnut was just saying he was musing a build with the C-135 wings and the C-141 engines.

I am surprised by the wide array of nacelles that the TF-33 and JT3-D’s used between the 707, DC-8, C-141, B-52 and KC/C/E/RC-135 etc. As I became painfully aware from my recent B-47 WHIF, Some had straight nacelles, some cut just aft of the compressor section etc.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2019, 02:45:55 pm »
Aren't the engines of the C-141B the same as the As?

IIRC they're both TF33P-7s, military versions of the JT3-D7s that the DC8-63s had.

Same engines on all Star Lifter versions, but I think Kitnut was just saying he was musing a build with the C-135 wings and the C-141 engines.


I was thinking of using the C-135 fuselage too --
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2019, 07:31:10 pm »

I am surprised by the wide array of nacelles that the TF-33 and JT3-D’s used between the 707, DC-8, C-141, B-52 and KC/C/E/RC-135 etc. As I became painfully aware from my recent B-47 WHIF, Some had straight nacelles, some cut just aft of the compressor section etc.


Indeed so, all the colours in all the sizes.  :o

My faves are the -7s that the DC8-62/63s use, very similar to the nacelles on the C-141.

The airliner people call them 'Tube engines' to distinguish from the earlier 'Side Exhaust' engines on the DC8-50 series.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2019, 08:39:47 pm »
In 1974 USAF tested a C-5 launching a Minuteman missile by dropping it out the back ramp. What about whiffing a C-141 launching something like a Poseidon or Pershing missile.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2019, 06:26:17 am »

I am surprised by the wide array of nacelles that the TF-33 and JT3-D’s used between the 707, DC-8, C-141, B-52 and KC/C/E/RC-135 etc. As I became painfully aware from my recent B-47 WHIF, Some had straight nacelles, some cut just aft of the compressor section etc.


Indeed so, all the colours in all the sizes.  :o

My faves are the -7s that the DC8-62/63s use, very similar to the nacelles on the C-141.

The airliner people call them 'Tube engines' to distinguish from the earlier 'Side Exhaust' engines on the DC8-50 series.

In my latest Air-Britain Aviation World (winter 2019) there's an article about the Xian Y-20. The nacelles they're using on it at the moment look very similar to the C-141 nacelles. But they're actually copies of the nacelles which are on the Il-76.
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Re: C-141 Star Lifter
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2019, 06:34:03 am »
Indeed! I noticed the similarity of the Il-76 nacelles to the 'Tube Engines' when one came to RIAT some years ago.

Of course they were totally independently designed and manufactured by Soloviev…………………..  :-\

The Wiki page on the Soloviev engine says '.....and had specifications similar to those of Western analogues such as Pratt & Whitney JT8D....'

Pratt & Whitney must have copied Soloviev's design I'm sure...……….  ;D
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