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Naval Tornado

Started by Overkiller, December 13, 2006, 12:19:57 PM

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Overkiller

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P1127

Stronger undercarraige maybe. Maybe remove the Thrust reversers as you wouldn't want to use them landing on a carrier (Let the hook catch you!). Bigger hook.
It's not an effing  jump jet.

Zen

Might want to fold the tailfin. Otherwise yes, stronger landing gear, some beefing up of the fusilage internaly, removqal of thrust reversering system, which should offset the weight increase on the maingear and tailhook.
To win without fighting, that is the mastry of war.

Geoff_B

Possibly based upon the ADV variant with the longer fuselage for better fuel capacity and range. Probably dual role for the CAP duties and Naval Strike.

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GeorgeC

I got an Airfix ADV to have a go myself sometime.  A more multi-role Tornado might have used a Spey derivative to deliver a better performance over a broader range of altitudes.  The F3's 'problem' is that it is stuck with an engine optimised to give a highly-efficient cruise at about 480 kts and 50 feet!

This engine might be a bit longer - something like this perhaps?



Very rough. Might have made a better multi-role fighter, at the expense of some range and payload due ot the less efficient engine.  The radar would also, persumably, be more multi-functional, rather than the specialised air-to-air or air-to-surface/terrain-flollowing versions of the IDS and ADV.        

AeroplaneDriver

When I did this Tornado last month I toyed with doing it as a naval version right up to the time I started painting.  

For a naval one I was looking at using the landing gear from an F-18, mainly because the F-18 main gear would have looked pretty cool with just a little work.  I also thought about going with a twin-fin configuration.  I'm not sure how this would work aerodynically since I understand the Tornado's big a$$ vertical surface is for directional control at high angles of attack when the fuselage blanks out a great deal of the fin.  Perhaps fins canted outwards would overcome this problem?

Getting rid of the reversers is a no-brainer, since the procedure on 'impact' is to go full power in case of a missed wire.  Again, I though of doing this with mine, and if I had gotted rid of the reverser detail, I would likely have fitted the 'burner nozzles from an old Airfix Eurofighter to represent an EJ200 engine conversion.

So I got that going for me...which is nice....

MAD

I agree with all of the above comments made.
Although I think a carrier-based version of the Jaguar, would make for an easier and more practical aircraft, for the size of the carrier required.

What about a Soviet Carrier-based Su-24 'Fencer'.
Know this would have made for a scary prospect for the US Navy and NATO.
Although it would most defiantly had have called for a catapult-equipped carrier design on behalf of the Soviet's


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GTX

QuoteWhat about a Soviet Carrier-based Su-24 'Fencer'.

Already on the 'To do' list.

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

Archibald

QuoteI got an Airfix ADV to have a go myself sometime.  A more multi-role Tornado might have used a Spey derivative to deliver a better performance over a broader range of altitudes.  The F3's 'problem' is that it is stuck with an engine optimised to give a highly-efficient cruise at about 480 kts and 50 feet!

This engine might be a bit longer - something like this perhaps?



Very rough. Might have made a better multi-role fighter, at the expense of some range and payload due ot the less efficient engine.  The radar would also, persumably, be more multi-functional, rather than the specialised air-to-air or air-to-surface/terrain-flollowing versions of the IDS and ADV.
Hmmm a Tornado ADV with F-15 air intakes, F-4K exhausts (Speys!) and loads of A2G weapons...  :wub:  
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

Zen

No need for the big heavy and expensive to run Spey. RR had developments of the RB199 on the boards, that formed the early powerplants for the Jaguar successor studies that lead to the Eurofighter.

So all thats needed is to fund a more powerful RB199 variant. One notable version for the P110 priduced around 21,000lb in reheat.
To win without fighting, that is the mastry of war.

Joe C-P

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QuoteWhat about a Soviet Carrier-based Su-24 'Fencer'.

Already on the 'To do' list.

Regards,

Greg
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