V/STOL Typhoon

[Chris707]

From a 2003 BAe patent - hedge against F-35 cancellation/non-participation I'd wager...



Apparently, the aft portion of the ductwork would be stowable, with the forward area being collapsible...


Chris
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[B777LR]

Looks ugly

[Hobbes]

Wow, that looks impractical to say the least. Wonder how the Typhoon would look with an F-35 style lift fan aft of the cockpit.  

[AeroplaneDriver]

Good grief!  It looks like Wallace & Grommit designed it!    

[RLBH]

It looks very, um, British. Bodgit and Scarper, and so forth. One heck of a maintenance hog, I guess.

[Sisko]

Is someone taking the piss  

[Captain Canada]

Looks like they've designed a good way to use the jet exhaust for heating large buildings......

[anthonyp]

That's a joke, right?

[Archibald]

Just a silly question : whatif the EJ-200 of a Typhoon were replaced by a pair of Pegasus ? After all, late variants of this one (AV-8B+) deliver 11 tons of thrust even without reheat... that's more than the EJ-200  

I suppose that heavy mods would be needed... hot shot engeneer, we need your wise advices!  

[GeorgeC]

It is not an act of war...

[B777LR]

Figure 5 is dangerous, coz engine might inhale its own exhaust...  nr 6 also looks bad  

[harrier]

In 2003 I went on a V/STOL aircraft design course at Cranfield. I remember the Warton lads drank a lot, but really....! "Pay attention at the back!"

There were various schemes for canard V/STOLs from Warton in the 1980s, and one used a RALS scheme (also known as 'bleed and burn'!) with a duct taking fan air from an aft engine to a ventral fuselage burner aft of the cockpit. It was the P112, picture in BSP Fighters. But hot gas like the picture above? Still, Nick Park is from Preston!

[Mechworker]

You can't be serious.

Those are the most ridiculous and impractical V/STOL setups I've ever seen!

I don't know what the intricacies fo the design are, but I can tell you that looks bad.

I'm a Ph.D. Electrical Engineer, so while I don't know aircraft design, I do know dodgy engineering when I see it. This looks dodgy.

In addition, that woudl impose so much weight and drag penalty, I would think it would more than negate any STOV/L or V/STOL advantages.

This is some of the most ludicrous stuff I've ever laid eyes upon!

there are some good ideas for supersonic V/STOL in Gunston's 1986 "Future Fighters" book. Perhaps the boys who designed this abortion should look in there...

[Chris707]

Oh, trust me, I'm not a fan, just a reporter ;-)
text pages:

http://www.dataviewbooks.com/vt.jpg
http://www.dataviewbooks.com/vt2.jpg

[P1127]

There was a Flight report on a STOVL Eurofighter design in the early 80s, using vectoring nozzles at the back and Harrier style nozzles forward