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« on: November 17, 2006, 11:48:32 pm »
Powered by closely-cowled 14-cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-1535s.

Span: 54'
Length: 34' 6"
Wing Area: 404 sq.ft

The Navy didn't go for it but were sufficiently interested to order a Model 12-A as the XJO-3 for carrier tests of the tricycle landing gear. The aircraft was flown off the Lexington during August of 1939.

A revised Model 24 was later proposed with non-supercharged Allison V-1710s, during the war Lockheed proposed the Model 822...basically a P-38H with a strengthened airframe, folding wings and arresting gear.

So USMC/USN night-fighter units?

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2006, 03:16:40 am »
Navalised P-38 for the Aeronavale and RN...  :wub:  :wub:  
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Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2006, 06:38:15 am »
Nice spats! :wub:

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2006, 11:12:48 am »
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Powered by closely-cowled 14-cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-1535s.

Jon,

If you hadn't added this statement, I would never have realised that it was powered by radial engines - talk about closely cowled!  I have heard that there was a proposal for a radial engined (Pratt & Whitney R-2800s, I believe) but I think this was later on.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2006, 07:54:23 pm »
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Nice spats! :wub:

Did I mention that I love spats? :wub:

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Figured you'd like it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2006, 09:08:22 pm »
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Powered by closely-cowled 14-cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-1535s.

Jon,

If you hadn't added this statement, I would never have realised that it was powered by radial engines - talk about closely cowled!  I have heard that there was a proposal for a radial engined (Pratt & Whitney R-2800s, I believe) but I think this was later on.

Regards,

Greg
There is a "What-If" model floating around the web of a twin-radial Sea Lightning, but the only real-world proposal for the Navy using radials is the one I posted with the R-1535 Twin Wasp Juniors...the rest of the Lockheed proposals all used Allisons.

I have read mention in passing on various boards that Lockheed had studied re-engining with R-2800s...but I have never seen any written references or details, and actually it would make little sense.

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2006, 09:09:14 pm »
Some thing like this, the Lockheed XFV-1 Trident.

If the USN was more interested in aircraft like the XF5F-1 then I could see the model 24 entering service. Though in limited numbers per carrier and mainly for rapid interception (thanks to the two engines) and a long endurance CAP. Maybe later in the war a two seat nightfighter.  
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 09:41:17 pm »
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If the USN was more interested in aircraft like the XF5F-1 then I could see the model 24 entering service. Though in limited numbers per carrier and mainly for rapid interception (thanks to the two engines) and a long endurance CAP. Maybe later in the war a two seat nightfighter.
Dunno about the "rapid interception" as the maximum power developed by the R-1535 was only around 825hp. :cheers:

Hughes H-1 was powered by an earlier version R-1535.

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