Lightning F.6 pt2

nev · September 04, 2005, 11:46:28 PM

Well, the big belly tank of the F6 increases its girth. fat people always looks shorter than they really are

lancer · September 05, 2005, 01:28:50 AM

Keep 'em coming Richard. They are superb!!. I love the Egyptian and Tunisian marques. In my 'ideas' book, I've got and 'Anglo/ Arabian alliance idea' that I'm fleshing out, based on a discussion I had here a while back. Now the Roundels are coming out I may well have to flesh it out a bit quicker now.

lancer · September 05, 2005, 01:29:30 AM

QuoteWell, the big belly tank of the F6 increases its girth. fat people always looks shorter than they really are

Cheeky sod!!!!

So I look about 5'6" do I

NARSES2 · September 05, 2005, 04:51:51 AM

QuoteKeep 'em coming Richard. They are superb!!. I love the Egyptian and Tunisian marques. In my 'ideas' book, I've got and 'Anglo/ Arabian alliance idea' that I'm fleshing out, based on a discussion I had here a while back. Now the Roundels are coming out I may well have to flesh it out a bit quicker now.

You've obviously been reading up on HM's Comonwealth and Foreign Office policy documents from the 50/60's then

lancer · September 05, 2005, 07:45:48 AM

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QuoteKeep 'em coming Richard. They are superb!!. I love the Egyptian and Tunisian marques. In my 'ideas' book, I've got and 'Anglo/ Arabian alliance idea' that I'm fleshing out, based on a discussion I had here a while back. Now the Roundels are coming out I may well have to flesh it out a bit quicker now.
You've obviously been reading up on HM's Comonwealth and Foreign Office policy documents from the 50/60's then

No, but I'd certainly be interested in getting any info on the subject.

NARSES2 · September 06, 2005, 11:56:06 PM

Lance - the FO's "policy" stance tpwards the Mid East was traditionaly seen as being "pro-Arabic" and subsequently "anti-zionist". HM Goverment's views changed but the "Madarines" who ran the department kept these "traditional" views until they all retired to their country estates, fat pensions and Quangos (come the revolution

So a UK/Arab alliance is a possibility providing the old "ruling families" stay in place - we put them there anyway - would be Mesopotainian/Gulf based, possibly including Persia. Plus Egypt and Lybia. The French saw their sphere of influence as being the Levant, in the Mid East anyway. Fascinating reading how the Mid East was carved up in 1919.

If we have a independent foreign policy now (woof -woof/yap -yap) then I've no idea what it is

Chris

lancer · September 07, 2005, 01:27:10 AM

Seems I wasn't that far off the mark then, as I was concentrating on the 'traditional' areas of British influence anyway i.e Egypt, Libya, the gulf region and noth to Syria. Further West, Algeria; Morocco was always French anyway. But my thoughts were an alliance that had been ongoing for well over a century.

nev · September 07, 2005, 03:04:47 AM

Well, we were always close to the Arabs as all our civil servants and foreign office types went to the same public schools as all the sheiks sent all their sons. So when Sir Richard Fotherington-Smythe, cultural attache in Riyadh met Sheikh Abdullah al-Rahman at an embassy dinner, they were already old mates having roomed together at Eton.

And thats how Saudi Arabia got the TSR2

NARSES2 · September 07, 2005, 04:19:12 AM

QuoteSeems I wasn't that far off the mark then, as I was concentrating on the 'traditional' areas of British influence anyway i.e Egypt, Libya, the gulf region and noth to Syria. Further West, Algeria; Morocco was always French anyway. But my thoughts were an alliance that had been ongoing for well over a century.

Syria and Lebanon would have been French after the Ottomans fell in 1918 Lance - so you'd get Trans-Jordan, Palestine and Iraq as British Mandates with the Gulf under "protected" status and Saudi and Egypt as alledgedly Independent states. Sudan was The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan. Lybia was Italian until WWII, then "independent" and the rest of N Africa French, apart from the Spanish bits. Persia/Iran again independent but under strong British guidance - and we wonder why there are problems in that part of the world ?

Chris