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Title: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 17, 2018, 11:29:19 PM
Hi everyone

Well, time to bite the bullet and start on the "smaller" of the 2 Star Destroyers I have in my stash (well really, the Bandai mini SD's are the smallest I have but they are not ones I am going to detail). The biggest one is the Korbanth Super Star Destroyer which measures out to be about a meter or so long! The Bandai ones are to go with the SSD. I will build the Korbanth monster one day but I want to tackle the one that requires the least amount of health defying work first. I have cleared some room on my display shelf for the standard SD and there's even some left over for the SSD  ;D

The Zvezda kit needs no introduction as there have been a multitude of these built online. I bought this ages ago but just haven't had the mojo to put in the effort it deserves.

I'll be adding details and of course lighting (which goes without saying really). For AM parts to go with this kit, I have the Falcon 3D printed hangar bay, rubbish chute, shield generators and engine bells - all of which are beautifully made and smooth as a babies behind. I might even go to Shapeways yet and order a set of gun turrets too.

As always, your feedback will be welcomed throughout the build - good or bad. If something looks wrong, say something. As nice as a "good job" etc is, constructive critique is a good way to learn and be a better modeller.

I've started with the engine block and have already removed the smaller molded on piping as they don't connect to the parts that they're meant to. It just looks weird

So this is what Zvezda give you in terms of detail OOB

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/929/43222560564_697814779a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28RqVps)

Nothing wrong with that at all. Once those bells go on, you don't see much unless you're looking. Maskes  you wonder why I bother but I know it's there and so will you

Istarted off by removing the molded on pipes in the middle bit here because they don't even meet up to the parts at the end. They seem pointless and half done, which on a ship this size is noticeable. I have since replaced the stretched sprue pipes I stared off with, with brass rod which looks much better and more uniform

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1798/43036393935_16031e2476_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28yYLxZ)

Now here's what I've added to the surfaces (bear in mind I have only just started and there is a LOT more to do yet! (I am just winging these details BTW)

The cream bits are all cast resin pieces of bits I use a lot of

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/939/42132828190_184788be33_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27c8KWf)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1791/42132819280_0007c981be_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27c8HhC)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1794/42132813090_a63d151d5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27c8FrU)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1797/30072668378_f13c01e8c0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPqhAo)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/931/30072660508_c8caa41a2a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPqffG)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/851/30072652598_72489a71b1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPqcUj)

As you can see in those last 2 pics, I've gone outside what is on the filming model and added an insert to make things a little bit more interesting. I'll be adding some pipes going in later

Anyways, I'll update again once I've finished the other sides

Thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 18, 2018, 12:29:26 AM
Dear powers that be, can we get the "eating popcorn" emoticon please?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 18, 2018, 01:04:09 AM
My gob is truly smacked already, and he's only just started!  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 18, 2018, 01:54:20 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 18, 2018, 01:04:09 AM
My gob is truly smacked already, and he's only just started!  :o

True, but it's the use of the word "smaller" that grabs me  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 18, 2018, 06:28:20 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 18, 2018, 01:54:20 AM

True, but it's the use of the word "smaller" that grabs me  :o


Heaven help us if he gets to work on that 1 mtr. long version, it'll have fully working laser cannons!  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on August 18, 2018, 06:49:16 AM
I shared a useful detailing and upgrade video here (http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,45564.0.html) on the Zvezda ISD
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 18, 2018, 09:02:50 PM
Thanks guys

Scooter - funnily enough, I had your build referenced to me over on another forum and I saw the video you created. It's very nice work!

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 18, 2018, 06:28:20 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 18, 2018, 01:54:20 AM

True, but it's the use of the word "smaller" that grabs me  :o


Heaven help us if he gets to work on that 1 mtr. long version, it'll have fully working laser cannons!  :o

LOL - whilst it maybe 1 meter long, the scale is a lot smaller than 1/2400 like this one. Here's a link to some of the pics I have of the parts etc:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm874pyQ

No working turrets on that one I'm afraid. Maybe if it was the Randy Cooper Star Destroyer I could make semi 'working' turrets but it would be limited to flashing barrels only. Even then, I'm not sure even I could pull something like that off. It would still be pretty cool though!
I don't have far to go on the back end in regards to detailing. Just a few more pipes and then some lights and it'll be done. I think I'll tackle the bridge next and then who knows. I'll figure it out as I go ;)
Pics will be coming soon
Thanks for looking
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 19, 2018, 03:42:58 AM
Honestly, mate, if I had half your greebling skills I'd be a very happy man! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: nighthunter on August 19, 2018, 07:41:38 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 19, 2018, 03:42:58 AM
Honestly, mate, if I had half your greebling skills I'd be a very happy man! :thumbsup:
Seconded!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 22, 2018, 03:57:03 AM
Update #2 - almost done with the back end


So, most of the piping has been added and I am happy with how it's coming along. I am still going to add a few more closer to the central leading edge just to busy that up a little more but it won't be a lot.

I drilled out the ends of the engines ready for the lighting to go in. I won't add that until after painting.

I won't talk much and let the pictures tell you what I've done


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1897/42386136890_7278a65541_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27zw2MC)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1819/43475713674_e1a9bf56bb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29eNp1f)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1870/43287715215_af8386ba07_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28XbRBv)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1841/42386105250_9bc7e97baa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27zvSo7)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1856/43287732055_52ca0eeeaf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28XbWBR)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1892/43475719394_0356d3ac9b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29eNqGS)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1874/43475684054_fd49bfcfaa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29eNfcy)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1838/44145446332_cb5d90929e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2afYXc3)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1891/44145438792_8546e74824_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2afYUX3)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30326365868_7f61752ee7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NcQy23)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1831/43287672865_cd013fa656_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28XbD2k)

Well, that's all I have for now. The next update should hopefully be the finished back end

Till next time, thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 22, 2018, 04:22:29 AM
To my mind it looks a bit busy now with all that pipework.
However, that is prolly because it's brass coloured and so stands out.  I am sure that when its painted it'll look fab.
Whatever, it's certainly a lot of work there.  Good job.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 22, 2018, 06:03:27 AM
Your quite right - it won't look so busy once the paint goes on  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 22, 2018, 06:29:26 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 26, 2018, 06:54:09 PM
Well, I've done all the detailing that I'm going to do to the back end. I'll be base painting it all black etc shortly and then onto getting the lighting sorted out. I'm not sure which colours I should go for. Ice blue or white for the main thrusters? Warm white for the smaller ones as well.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1867/42483062210_c72150071b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27J5NiQ)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/29355005747_f2a780bbef_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LJ15uK)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1856/44242466082_ac90b8dbb3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2apycMm)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1897/44291110451_a24f87cb9b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2atRw4n)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1884/29355040557_388f6c8c8d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LJ1fQV)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1878/43573719274_13f04d9be1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29osGDY)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1859/29355125347_2bc2c9bbc8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LJ1G3P)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/29355021127_f92d3c4a19_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LJ1a4V)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1893/44291233851_6585d39033_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2atS9JX)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1889/29355050767_7cc96ee099_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LJ1iSX)

Next update should be the final pics of the back end

Thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 27, 2018, 01:49:22 AM
That looks WILDLY complicated and it's difficult to grasp without some size reference. So what diameter is that big centre engine please?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 27, 2018, 04:00:20 AM
Stunned mullet, that's me! :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 27, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 27, 2018, 01:49:22 AM
That looks WILDLY complicated and it's difficult to grasp without some size reference. So what diameter is that big centre engine please?

Superb work, but like Kit I'd love some reference so that I can really appreciate it
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 30, 2018, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 27, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 27, 2018, 01:49:22 AM
That looks WILDLY complicated and it's difficult to grasp without some size reference. So what diameter is that big centre engine please?

Superb work, but like Kit I'd love some reference so that I can really appreciate it

Thanks guys, and seeing as you asked so nicely, I just took a couple of pictures with a Tamiya Glue Bottle in front. It's not a small ship like usual - this one's definitely bigger than the Yunagi!! I can lay 2 of them, 1 over each side of that back end alone. It's as long as the Merkarva MK3 - barrel and all!

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1870/29423430777_4850f5cbf7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LQ3LSD)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/42551179260_770aa9693e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27Q6V8J)

As you can see, it's got some paint on it and it looks much more tied together now. I think I got the colour right too!

Anyways, I've started on the bridge and I shall have pics of that hopefully this weekend
I hope the pictures give you a better sense of scale.?

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 30, 2018, 03:28:57 AM
Two things.
1)  The paint does indeed tie it all together nicely.
2)  It's smaller than I expected.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 30, 2018, 03:31:54 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 30, 2018, 03:28:57 AM

Two things.
1)  The paint does indeed tie it all together nicely.
2)  It's smaller than I expected.


:thumbsup:


Indeed so, a LOT smaller than I expected, so how the DEVIL do you add all that minute detail? You must be 1/1200 scale yourself..........
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 30, 2018, 06:33:26 AM
Agree with the lads, it's way, way smaller than I was expecting. All I can say is  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 30, 2018, 06:46:53 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 30, 2018, 06:54:39 AM
It's not as small as it seems. It's 32 cm wide and 7.5cm at it's tallest which given the sizes of my latest few builds is really pretty big. If I can get my fat fingers in there then anyone's can.  :thumbsup: TBH - Tweezers and a sharp knife are my best friends for the really small things
It's detailing the body that I am dreading/pondering over the most. There's just sooo much surface area. :o  It doesn't all need bits stuck on but there's a fair amount of space where I'll add some regardless. I'm not doing anything anyone else hasn't already done before  ;D
In the mean time, I shall finish off the bridge and get the neck done etc before worrying about the bigger stuff
Cheers,
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 30, 2018, 06:59:53 AM
The problem with adding detail is knowing when to stop. That's my excuse for not adding much more than is provided in the kit  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 03, 2018, 07:12:22 PM
Time for an update

I've started the bridge and have pretty much finished the face. I may yet go back and add a couple more bits on for good measure.

I have most of the holes drilled ready for fibers to go in.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1873/30591066978_c54fb11f26_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBedrh)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/44459562711_727dda39a6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aJJT3F)

I've also made a start on the roof section. It's a little bland for my taste so I've started adding details there to. Again, all made up stuff - no references. It just makes it look more interesting

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1885/44410270782_e3524013e5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aEofgQ)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1891/44410245942_dbb9170c76_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aEo7Ty)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/42650841730_e81c4cc0e2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27YUHjb)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/44410261742_5e833d8a02_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aEoczY)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1854/42650835360_8b408eddee_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27YUFqm)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1847/44410252892_832a57d6f5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aEo9Xo)

The back end is also now painted and ready to go on. I still have to install the lights but that won't take long. I'll take some lit shots when it's all done

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1846/42651781020_46937aebf4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27YZwwQ)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1864/43741929494_1970c37706_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29DjPGb)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1847/30590098688_88fecbbec8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NB9fAC)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1899/43741917084_b0ec721b50_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29DjL1d)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1865/42650890660_1bc938522a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27YUXRN)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1845/29521874197_90ae9c6d85_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LYKjEZ)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/42651841480_01fe324a94_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27YZQvf)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/44460803691_77eda4dbd9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aJReWT)

Well, that's it for now. I'll update again once I've done something worth showing with the bridge

Thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: strobez on September 03, 2018, 07:51:31 PM
I'm having trouble making my mouth form actual words right now... "fasaaahhhh" was the best I could manage.

Wow.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 03, 2018, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: strobez on September 03, 2018, 07:51:31 PM
I'm having trouble making my mouth form actual words right now... "fasaaahhhh" was the best I could manage.

Wow.

He's good, isn't he. ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 04, 2018, 06:20:11 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 03, 2018, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: strobez on September 03, 2018, 07:51:31 PM
I'm having trouble making my mouth form actual words right now... "fasaaahhhh" was the best I could manage.

Wow.

He's good, isn't he. ;D :thumbsup:

Just a tad  ;)  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 09, 2018, 12:34:27 AM
hi all

Work continues with the completion of the roof. I'll have the big X thingy standing up I think. I need to start detailing that part and then add it to the roof. The shield generators have been added since these pictures but I need to fix up a few things  before I can show you.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/30694143448_c9f191b84f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NLkvtN)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1861/30694140368_c6ba5bba1c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NLkuyG)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1859/44564754901_1162288ed4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU3228)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1869/42755270910_1ee5f3cdce_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2898Wth)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1884/44564751301_51e99ca107_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU2ZX4)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1894/42755269340_81fe06aa39_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2898W1d)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1886/30694135848_66f71c8323_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NLktdL)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1887/30694133878_86b0023962_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NLksCN)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1898/44564752851_ce460d7eac_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU31pM)

That's it for now. Thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 09, 2018, 01:43:26 AM
It's the symmetry I admire as much as anything else  :bow: I can't tie two she laces the same, let alone anything else  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 09, 2018, 07:45:34 AM
 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on September 10, 2018, 02:13:29 AM
Awesomeness
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 10, 2018, 06:34:52 AM
thanks guys
I made a start on the bottom half of the bridge section last night and opened up 3 ports to which i have run some more piping out from. Granted it's not exactly movie accurate, but its equally as interesting I think
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 11, 2018, 03:55:06 AM
Who cares about "movie accurate"? :unsure: .................................. Apart from the Star Wars JMN clique, obviously. :rolleyes:


It's looking awesome, that's all that counts! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Weaver on September 11, 2018, 04:51:38 AM
Lovely greeblification work there!  :thumbsup:

Just seen in AMW that there's a Czech company called Greestrawberry who are doing resin and brass detailing bits for these, including the fiddly flaps that the studio models had around the edge of the engine bells: https://greenstrawberry.cz/star-wars-17?page=1&resultsPerPage=36
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 11, 2018, 05:26:25 AM
thanks Weaver :) I have seen their offerings and they are very nice. They seem to have dropped one of their etched detail frames from the line up though. It was the one frame I thought would be very handy and I probably should have bought them when I had the chance. Oh well.
I am in 2 minds over etched parts - they look great on planes and armour but at the same time, I find them to be a bit too flat and look just stuck on as opposed to being integrated with the ship. I think that's why I've steered clear of them.
I did entertain the paddle thingies but I'm cheap and would prefer to fashion some myself out of styrene if I wanted them.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 11, 2018, 06:01:33 AM
LOL - I just said how flat the all looked and I still just bought the hangar set - mostly for the small hangar up front
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 11, 2018, 06:37:06 AM
Quote from: sykotik on September 11, 2018, 06:01:33 AM
LOL - I just said how flat the all looked and I still just bought the hangar set - mostly for the small hangar up front

We've all done that  ;D

When I got back into the hobby I thought etch was compulsory  :banghead:  :rolleyes: Now I'll use seatbelts and a few other cockpit bits, Yahu's instrument panels for example, but that's it.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 11, 2018, 07:18:00 AM
yeah, people seem to think a kit is not going to be it's best without some form of after market resin or PE item to enhance it. I came to the conclusion many years ago that they are most certainly not an essential item to have. Granted some things do look better than a kit supplied cockpit for example, but other than that, I can live without it.
Things like the hangar bay are one of those items that actually would be of benefit - I hope! I also think lighting will be much easier with PE too. Time will tell aye
Once I get back from Bogan Island (AKA Bali) I'll hopefully have it in my possession and will put it together
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Weaver on September 12, 2018, 05:36:39 AM
They do their own lighting kit too (tad pricey mind...): https://greenstrawberry.cz/lighting-kits/star-destroyer-lighting-kit--44.html
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 18, 2018, 06:57:58 AM
Hey guys

Thought I would show you where I am up to on this before I go on a well deserved holiday for a few weeks.

I've only really just started but it's not a race. I probably won't take any more pics now until the bridge is finished

Hopefully the cutting board will help some of you convey a sense of scale as well

The first set of pics are the walls for the bays underneath which are present on the filming models. I thought that was a cool feature so I did the same, except I opened up another one that wasn't there. All for my own personal tastes

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1895/44759921441_00dc1816c5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bchiet)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1856/29823310587_9a13e60e2b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mrogd8)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1890/44041394264_029237db2c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a6ME8S)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/44041386814_cae1d163de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a6MBVq)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1852/44710745712_7562423a3a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b7Wg15)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/44759889541_29bd303e9f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bch8Kt)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1866/44710732192_a64fdd188c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b7WbYY)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1885/30889497758_b17c859cd6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P4AKvy)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1892/44759877331_ef1ab6239e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bch57X)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1857/43850644215_72ec1892a1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29NW1MV)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1858/44759867261_cf2d1e1fed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bch28k)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1842/29823208997_2ff8b67dd3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MrnK1z)

Well, that's me done, but if you have any questions or comments or critique, I am always open to it

As always, thanks for looking in

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 22, 2018, 02:47:56 AM
Enjoy the holiday and come back refreshed for this build  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on November 12, 2018, 05:13:44 PM
hi guys

It's been a while since I last updated this thread, so time to do so. I have finished detailing the bridge and am about ready to start adding the fiber optic threads and then get it all sealed up.

The main hangar bay has also been started. I have used a mix of Green Strawberry PE and Falcon resin parts as well as some strip styrene here and there, with more to go in due course. The front hangar bay is the GS PE set and looks good. It's all lit, painted and ready to install

So, less talking and more pics I say

Starting with the hangar bays:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1952/43668682530_ddfe6b3bcf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29wRpVu)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/30545471927_f8716ece5f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NxcwBH)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/30545467377_b20fd14b10_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nxcvgg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1926/30545461507_7db6eb6234_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nxctw4)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1976/30545455027_369639cc8c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NxcrAk)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1937/31612108638_449aa83856_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QasjxQ)

I will try to meld the TIE fighter bay to the Falcon hangar section but it may not work do well. If not, I will need to scratch build it. I had a heck of a time mounting the SMD's as the wires kept coming off. They are not the best quality SMD's I think

Lastly, the bridge detailing is all but done. I won't be adding anything further to it. Once the paint goes on, it'll look much better and not so busy

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4918/44939734365_7506cbbebf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2btaTmi)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/45127998054_ba016e7d94_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bKNMzY)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4837/44035979140_deda57c2de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a6iUpE)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4821/31981486818_a500bd0958_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QJ6tP9)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1931/44939943165_63fc9394e1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2btbXqi)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4876/44035958310_0061ccf642_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a6iNdw)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4867/45803454302_7080529bef_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cMuFcm)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4830/30913417917_fdeaec8f0f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P6Hm96)

Well, that's all the pics I have for now. I am about to start on the neck area and garbage chute etc. I won't add too much detail here....well, maybe a little but not too much

Feel free to comment, critique or suggest

Thanks for stopping in and looking

Till next time

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on November 13, 2018, 12:24:54 AM
Good to see a couple of Carley floats on the rear of the bridge, sufficient life-support craft when having to abandon ship is very important! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on November 13, 2018, 01:05:58 AM
Coming along nicely.
You have more patience than me.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on November 25, 2018, 02:36:04 AM
It's looking much more uniform now that the bridge has some paint on it.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/45126976185_d5999e2d01_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bKHxPx)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4841/44222794780_13e0aaffa8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anPobY)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4906/31099750347_3b03777772_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pobmhc)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/45314751094_188631567d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c3iWKY)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/46039067411_48c3352779_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9jfLk)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/45989207552_b872659c45_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d4UHaA)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4862/44223190900_feafe44be7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anRpWC)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/45314663384_4449d3aae1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c3iuFJ)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4911/45314339664_51f3090956_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c3gQsm)

Started on the neck section

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4859/31100251477_f3b16bb3d7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PodVfn)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4831/31100270157_c8be6f9e3d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Poe1Nr)

The garbage chute is installed and has some red fibers on the inside

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4839/31099624247_3474145954_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PoaGN4)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/46039125331_fae5fdefcb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9jxYX)

Adding some details to the big antenna thing using some scrap PE bits

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/45126870845_09e1416065_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bKH1vk)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/46038514191_89741eb9aa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9gqj4)

Close up shows there's some clean up to do, but that won't be hard

Anyway, thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on November 25, 2018, 06:42:07 AM
I'm not often "gobsmacked", but  :o.

Superb  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on December 08, 2018, 03:39:05 AM
Thanks man. I hope you guys don't to bored  I'm not a fast builder  ;D

I did a lighting test tonight of the bridge and I am happy with how it turned out. I made a number of mistakes on the internals and had numerous electrical issues but I got there in the end.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4905/31289209687_7b55a92dd7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PEVnWx)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4873/46228054101_8e2eba77e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dr1RVx)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4811/32355723278_e1bd05e873_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RiaxgU)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4856/46228046511_70a7710ab4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dr1PEF)

I've also been cutting away at the body to accommodate the fibers. I've actually finished the whole top but just haven't taken any pics yet because it's not daylight

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4863/45315216405_abb85aa102_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c3mk5z)

Anyway, I just wanted to share the results of the lighting. I'm really happy with how it came out.

Till next time

Si   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 08, 2018, 05:52:15 AM
Those lit pics look incedible, and they don't give you the slightest hint of the model's size. It could be 4" across or 4 MILES!  :o :thumbsup:

How big is it anyway?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 09, 2018, 12:52:09 AM
 :o :o :o

I'm literally speechless, and those who know me can tell you that doesn't happen often  ;)

Incredible  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on December 09, 2018, 04:05:45 AM
Thanks guys!
The bridge itself is about 12cm wide by 3cm high at the center. Once everything is together, I'll take a size comparison shot for you

It'll be a few weeks now till another update as I am off to my Mother in Laws inevitable funeral on Tuesday before flying to NZ to spend what will likely be a not so festive Christmas break.

Rest assured, once I have finished the neck off I will be posting some pics. I am in the midst of painting the neck walls and finishing off the detailing to the front panels now. The roof of the bridge is currently drying and should be able to be released from it's clamps tomorrow

Thanks for your interest guys

Have a safe and happy Christmas fellas  :thumbsup:

Regards

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on December 09, 2018, 07:47:56 AM
Suh-wee-eet! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 10, 2018, 06:11:52 AM
Quote from: sykotik on December 09, 2018, 04:05:45 AM

Have a safe and happy Christmas fellas  :thumbsup:

Regards

Si

And to you Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on December 30, 2018, 08:03:30 PM
2 days back and I have already pretty much finished the bridge and neck section. I'll run a light grey wash over it once everything has dried and sealed proper. There are still a couple of sections I need to hand brush to bring up to spec.


I'll take some lit shots once I have connected the remaining fiber optics.


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4863/44717956700_6be6b1fb83_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b8zdzs)


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4836/46483351972_0257c1f596_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dPzk5Y)


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4912/32662057628_2e0db8cf5d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RLezNC)


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7915/44718004080_2cc52c5816_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b8zsEm)


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7848/31595120537_cb413de4dd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q8Xfzx)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4889/32662040888_7a0a2ea7de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RLeuQ1)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7879/44717992660_2206c15c2f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b8zpgs)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4807/45811565694_16cfe92a28_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cNdfqW)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4837/31595093967_2fb25c474f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q8X7Fr)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7925/44717967610_a7910ec759_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b8zgPy)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4889/46483334352_e9d1c5f936_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dPzeRb)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4870/31595083257_b68dbf498e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q8X4uM)

That's it for now. I have to finish painting the big antenna in the middle as well as replace all the broken projections on the shield generators but I'll do that once the bridge is attached to the body

As always, thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on January 01, 2019, 05:38:22 AM
 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on June 17, 2019, 04:58:13 AM
Hey guys
It's been a while since I last touched this but after numerous side projects (some successful some....not so much  :rolleyes:) I figure it was about time to get this going again and maybe even finish it this year - although being over half way through I doubt it. I'd just like to finish it all together really..

So, I have finished detailing the hangar bay and it is currently drying off the black base coat ready for the light strips to be attached. I am waiting on 2 new ones as I screwed up the first set by cutting it in the wrong place. I had the right number of LEDs for the amount of holes but the strip requires another 2 at the end for it to work properly, so the last 2 LEDs didn't light up. Good thing they're cheap! I'll have to black out the last 2 LEDs once I install the new set.
As you can also see, there is a lot of artistic license going into this. None of this stuff is on the filming model but then I am building this for me and not a paying person so it's kind of irrelevant really

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078808193_86ce6974b8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfysCR)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078770001_1b8bfd0e27_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfyghn)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078768466_b5cf980077_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfyfPU)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078767026_219d54af5c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfyfp5)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078764926_6e4d884429_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfyeLS)

The TIE hangar is installed and it actually works. Just need to tidy a few things up and then that's done.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078874482_a2bd5c156a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfyNkL)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078805113_6617aca96f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfyrHK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48078771356_2648a63c33_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfygFJ)

I had made a start on the side walls in Jan before I lost patience with it and they haven't moved since these pics were done

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4908/39692016993_8092b338d6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23trXNz)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7910/45932206454_734f2485d5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cYSyJ3)

I also painted (badly) the Blockade runner. This will need a lot of touching up before I'm happy with it

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4825/39692005673_5e7de26109_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23trUrp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4916/39692003353_aecf65ac40_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23trTKp)

Still a long way to go yet but hopefully I can keep up some momentum and get something done. I was looking at the photos I took of the Super Star destroyer and started to drool at the thought of starting it. Then I remembered it's resin and there is a fair amount of work to do on it and the drool dried up pretty quickly, but I will start it hopefully once this one's done - if I haven't over detailed myself out by then.

Anyway, that's all I have for now but thanks for sticking around and having a look-see
Cheers
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 17, 2019, 07:49:29 AM
Maybe finish this lot, then move on to simpler things that don't have masses of fine detail for a while (a few decades might suffice ;)). :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: philp on June 17, 2019, 08:23:25 PM
It is looking great so far.

Just remember that the Blockade Runner took a hit to the top turret.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on June 18, 2019, 03:24:47 AM
thanks guys
I'm finding I start off with all the right intentions but loss steam after a few months. I know this is not exactly a new phenomenon but it's still a PITA as I have a lot of unfinished projects because of it. Remember that scratch built starship I started using the U Boat hull? Haven't looked at it for a couple of years because I couldn't make up my mind how it was to go together. And because I couldn't make up my mind, my enthusiasm waned and I left it.  :banghead: So annoying
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 18, 2019, 08:37:08 AM
Know where you're coming from! :banghead:

I have a fair collection of unfinished builds beginning to stack up. I reach a point where something is too fiddly/difficult/awkward/delayed & there the build sits, waiting for me to get enthused again. :-\

I really need to start on that pile soon. :angel:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on June 23, 2019, 08:05:39 PM
Continuing along now with the painting and installation of the main hangar bay. It's been drilled out in places for lights and I'm waiting on delivery of my LED tape

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117690398_ece0ccb71b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZJXG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117749332_fb5a30758d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gj13tN)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117750787_28548a25b0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gj13UT)

I've also started on the top layer of the superstructure - or wedding cake as it has been referred to by others.

Test fitting of the neck shows there could be some issues ahead, but nothing insurmountable

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117655831_213451e849_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZyFH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117681033_7f058286bb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZGbe)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117683163_9b44e375a3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZGNX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117684978_210a3f1335_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZHmf)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117653866_9343843db0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZy6Q)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117662321_600751a98e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZABB)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48117663851_cd9fc743c5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giZB4Z)

Anyway, that's the end of this update but I will post more pics soon enough

Thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 24, 2019, 12:43:42 AM
I realise that this is hard work but, Brother, is it ever impressive! :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 24, 2019, 04:55:16 AM
'...shows some issues....'? However would you know among all that complexity!  :o :o

Talk about awe inspiring!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on June 24, 2019, 07:08:52 AM
Some amazing work going on there  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 02, 2019, 12:01:15 AM
Got more work done with the top layer 3/4 finished. I still have more surfacing to do but I'm hoping to knock out a fair bit tonight (if World of Warships doesn't interrupt me)
I won't go to crazy on the roof though but you can see a clear difference between the kit surface and mine. Some might say that's not a good thing but I like it. Besides, once the paint goes on the busyness will disappear. I've glued on the sidewalls and then will drill out the remaining windows. The roof is just sitting on there until I have threaded through the fibers - a task I am not looking forward to.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176839771_89c0b27412_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpdU1t)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176914667_194fe7d617_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpehgM)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176835991_21e550e8db_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpdSTi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176910902_2fcd63fdbe_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpeg9S)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176909107_1a82e1a6ac_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpefBV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176907002_83e1a30e83_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpeeZC)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176904327_8053ca2571_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpeecv)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176825326_464b81baab_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpdPHq)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176891272_323a9e8beb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpeajq)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176823106_1eaa961e45_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpdP49)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176821111_fe0aa04f85_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpdNsK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176896187_0abfbaec8c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpebMa)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176894137_714e443171_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpebaP)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48176888962_ac4b56b5d2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gpe9CA)

I still have to drill out that center bit on the nose of the lower layer. I'll run some piping into it to make it more interesting.
That's all I have but thanks for looking
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 02, 2019, 01:57:56 AM
I love what you do! :wub:


Anyone with a different opinion can go grow fuschias, as far as I'm concerned! :wacko:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on July 02, 2019, 02:51:35 AM
You have far more patience than I.  And I agree wholeheartedly with our resident aged marsupial.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 04, 2019, 12:19:30 AM
Thanks for the encouragement guys, appreciated
I'm hoping to install the hangar lighting this weekend so more pics of that once it's done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 07, 2019, 03:41:36 AM
Hi again

Thought I'd share some pics of the successful lighting test of the hangar bay. I'm very happy with how it's come out. The light's aren't too strong which is good.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48219993971_786816bc79_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gt35fp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48219990216_56b8b457b6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gt348E)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48219985481_3c7b76e97c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gt32J2)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48220035362_f6c874491d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gt3hy3)

Not far from finishing the top section. The windows have all been drilled out and is now ready for the fun task of installing the fiber. Joy

Thanks for looking
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on July 07, 2019, 05:16:52 AM
Magic.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 07, 2019, 08:30:51 AM
Woh! Excellent! :mellow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 07, 2019, 10:13:04 AM
The most impressive thing about your work is I can look and wonder at how amazing it looks and I have absolutely NO idea how big it is at all! It could be 5" long or 55ft, there's ni way I can tell.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 07, 2019, 08:51:53 PM
Here you go, Kit! The model is about 2 feet long:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F2ihw17s.jpg&hash=9b09c75ed7d72394e8035f4f7ddf502e6243efa8)
Image from FSM: http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/6/t/173091.aspx (http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/6/t/173091.aspx)

A hell of a lot of those details sykotik's adding are 0.5-1mm long!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 08, 2019, 10:20:53 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on July 07, 2019, 08:51:53 PM

Here you go, Kit! The model is about 2 feet long:


Jeepers! In that case it's even MORE amazing than I thought!  :o :o :o :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 08, 2019, 09:02:49 PM
thanks guys
Kit, this image may help you. Its the top roof which is 15cm x 12cm total size. I won't be adding that much detail all over it BTW, just in concentrated areas

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48237552611_d4226b90b8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2guA4Pz)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48237554981_f90e0eb744_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2guA5wr)

Hope that helps?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 08, 2019, 09:36:45 PM
Helps?

I'm AWESTRUCK at the minute-ness of all those details. I reckon you must be 1/1000 scale yourself!  :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 13, 2019, 06:56:46 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 08, 2019, 09:36:45 PM


I'm AWESTRUCK at the minute-ness of all those details. I reckon you must be 1/1000 scale yourself!  :o :o

Either that or a neuro surgeon who works on things like this to relax  ;)

Every time I look at it I'm just more and more amazed  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on July 13, 2019, 08:23:24 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 13, 2019, 06:56:46 AM

Either that or a neuro surgeon who works on things like this to relax  ;)

I remember reading ages ago, in I think FSM, about a dentist who built a 1/48 scale Cleveland-class (IIRC, it has been 30 or so years) cruiser...and set it up for RC.  Just to run in the pond on his property.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 13, 2019, 08:55:11 PM
LOL - I wish I had the money of a Neuro surgeon! Nor am I a dentist
Truth be told, I am a Fraud Investigator for a bank, so in a way, details count  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on July 14, 2019, 03:15:24 AM
Quote from: scooter on July 13, 2019, 08:23:24 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 13, 2019, 06:56:46 AM

Either that or a neuro surgeon who works on things like this to relax  ;)

I remember reading ages ago, in I think FSM, about a dentist who built a 1/48 scale Cleveland-class (IIRC, it has been 30 or so years) cruiser...and set it up for RC.  Just to run in the pond on his property.

You could sit inside one that size and drive it.
Which Iain M Banks book features miniature one man battleships which fight each other on a network of ponds?  It's one of the later ones like The Algebracist.

Quote from: sykotik on July 13, 2019, 08:55:11 PM
LOL - I wish I had the money of a Neuro surgeon! Nor am I a dentist
Truth be told, I am a Fraud Investigator for a bank, so in a way, details count  :thumbsup:

From one evil empire to another...
;D


Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 15, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
So, here I am with another update.
The roof is finished - or finished enough for now. It's looking pretty good to me. It's hard trying to keep it all in scale but I think I am doing alright.
A test fit of the bridge and neck was okay but I had to remove some stuff off the back left sidewall to allow the neck to slide all the way in. The fit is not the best - I'll be honest, I'm not sure if it's all me, or part me and part kit or just the kit itself. Either way, I'll have to think carefully about how the final construction is going to go.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295643766_3a90f7a563_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzHNid)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295749307_932c4c848d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJkET)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295623201_8ba23fa92e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzHGbD)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295728657_94e5b08543_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJewR)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295619176_4e13f6e3a4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzHEZf)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295616961_7447321347_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzHEk4)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295615106_a473965da4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzHDM5)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295747397_79da669e5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJk6X)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295741557_987d7f2139_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJing)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295732827_178b9ca364_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJfLK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295734957_4bc16c001b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJgpt)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295737182_6566910fe4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzJh4Q)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48295631581_ee69b74b4a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gzHJF8)

Well, that's me done for another couple of weeks I think. I'll be making a start on the lower level sidewalls tonight hopefully, then the main body which will be very time consuming I think.
Till then
Adios amigos

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 16, 2019, 07:54:35 AM
Damn! :o :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 17, 2019, 06:25:16 AM
I have to wipe the sweat from my brow just looking at this work  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 18, 2019, 01:50:04 AM
LOL - I sweat too when I look at it although I dare say for a different reason :D
Made a start on the lower sidewalls last night - got as far as making 3 shelves before I called it a night. I really need to pick up the pace a bit
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 18, 2019, 02:33:40 AM
Just don't burn yourself out, mate! If you need to take a break for a few weeks or months, we'll still be here, hangin' out! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 19, 2019, 08:52:32 PM
I've already had a couple month break from it and I want to be able to put this in next years Expo, so I had best get a shuffle on.
I've just made 2 little hangar bays for the side walls. I'm not sure they actually exist on the actual filming models but I don't care. I like them and the parts look like they should be hangars. VIP hangars in my case. Be interesting to see if anyone actually notices them once it's on display.  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 19, 2019, 09:34:09 PM
That'll depend of on they can actually SEE them!  :o

Perhaps you should have an electron microscope as an integral part of the display, so people can appreciate the mega-small details?  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 20, 2019, 02:03:30 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 19, 2019, 09:34:09 PM
That'll depend of on they can actually SEE them!  :o

Perhaps you should have an electron microscope as an integral part of the display, so people can appreciate the mega-small details?  ;D ;)

:thumbsup: ;D ;D ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 20, 2019, 02:13:24 AM
Quote from: sykotik on July 19, 2019, 08:52:32 PM
so I had best get a shuffle on.


Shouldn't that be "shuttle" ?

I'll get my coat  :angel:

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on July 20, 2019, 07:34:17 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 20, 2019, 02:13:24 AM

Shouldn't that be "shuttle" ?

I'll get my coat  :angel:


bah dom *tish*  ;D ;D ;D

LOL, you can see them - the inserts are nearly 1 centimeter square and although the opening is only 7mm wide by 4mm high - it's still enough to see into.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 06, 2019, 05:50:40 PM
Hi guys
Well, it's been 3 weeks and I've done 5/8ths of bugger all. I have made a start on the back end of the top hull plate which you'll see in a sec. I've not really touched it in this time as I have been building a Tarangus Viggen but that's stalled because I just can't bring myself to do the complex paint job.  :rolleyes:
I have however think I have settled on a suitable base. It's also going to take some work but it'll be worth it. I just can't bring myself to do all this work on this and cheap out on the base. I certainly won't be making the same mistake as the Venator.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48476151016_39372ca6b1_t.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gREWPb)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48476153116_5f5e307fdc_t.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gREXro)

I was blabbing on about some small side hangars in one of my last posts somewhere. I don;t think they exist on the filming model but I can safely say I think we're well past that....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48476305042_6887750fd6_t.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gRFJAN)

You can see why I would think to have them though - those spaces look like they're meant to be like this, although I am wondering how much artistic license Zvezda used when tooling this kit

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48476308442_f046091054_t.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gRFKBq)

Sorry to say but this is all I have for you.
Till next time
Happy modelling and thanks for looking in
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 06, 2019, 06:16:41 PM
They look like hangar doors to me (or badly detailed vents) & these were big vessels & I'm sure the prop builders would have put hangar doors there if the script had required it (or vents in exactly the same place if the script went in that direction, too). It's an obscure enough location that it could have had multiple uses across different episodes in a series & been explained away by "re-fits" by the producers when the usual fanboy suspects went into their little rants.


I don't think you'll ever understand just how deeply in awe I am of what you can do in this microscopic scale, mate! Brilliant! :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 07, 2019, 02:26:21 AM
You're very kind to say so - thanks mate
I did some more on it today and it's starting to look good. Just bought some styrene sheet as well this afternoon to make a start on the base when it comes time, as well as some brass tube for the stands
The base idea will be just as intense as the ship I think
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 11, 2019, 06:32:27 AM
hi guys
Well, time for another update. Not sure how many more I'll do for a while as I may take a break from this, but not just yet.
I keep looking at how much I've done versus how much is left to do and I start shaking inwardly. Definitely a long term build.

As you can see, I have made a start on the port side. I've installed the mini hangars and they look alright. I tried to dial down the brightness but may need to do more.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510953492_bd2073afa7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUKjnS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510956337_f9a347a8f1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUKkdV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510961377_f24bbea6c4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUKmHP)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510971182_5daed2079d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUKpCS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510973932_bedd2aaa2a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUKqsh)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510794806_b8d1eb51e7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUJvcU)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510782616_456f2a3c8b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUJrzJ)

And something I haven't shown you yet - a lighting test of the rear engines:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48510777286_fefccc1967_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gUJpZQ)

Well, that's it for now but as always, thanks for sticking around and having a look
Till next time
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 12, 2019, 06:01:08 AM
There's an old English saying which is surprisingly apt for this I think.

"Flippin' Ada"  :o

:bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 12, 2019, 08:37:55 AM
Plug away in your own time, mate! I'll be here waiting to see more! :mellow: :mellow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on August 12, 2019, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 12, 2019, 08:37:55 AM
Plug away in your own time, mate! I'll be here waiting to see more! :mellow: :mellow: :bow: :bow:

As we all will
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Mossie on August 13, 2019, 05:32:09 AM
Talking of masterpieces, here's another! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 20, 2019, 03:19:37 AM
Hi guys
It's that time of the fortnight again - yup: update time!
I've been plugging away at yet more side walls and naturally, there is still a heap more to do yet. I did say this will be a loooooong build (ticked over the one year mark already with so much more to do). I sometimes wonder why I do this to myself but for the rest of the time, I love it
I have to remind myself that i still have the other side to do yet as well as the bottom and then the sidewalls. Maybe by 2021 it'll be done.....  :o  :rolleyes:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583261487_87718131ca_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28V2r)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583115161_0baf120850_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28awz)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583117851_c37e1dace0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28bjX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583269282_557bc3c160_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28XkQ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583122871_d8ea1a6e11_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28cPv)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583125451_279567790f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28dzZ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583277252_a3186dae73_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28ZHf)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583130556_e3a86e347f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h28f71)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48583282392_f6ecf6cf2b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h292eS)

As you can see, I still need to add some details to the hull to tie in the sidewalls but that'll happen soon enough.
Anyway, that's all I have for now but I will be back again once I have done something worth showing
Thanks for looking and if you have any suggestions for details etc, I'm open to them
Cheers
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 20, 2019, 04:24:59 AM
I'd be hazarding 2022 at best (you're going to need a break some time) but keep the updates rollin'! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 20, 2019, 04:30:56 AM
I think you are crazy.

But it's looking fantastic.
:bow:
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: nighthunter on August 20, 2019, 09:20:19 AM
So you're saying that the Sound Transit's Seattle Central Link light rail will come to Tacoma, before this ISD is finished? Lol!

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: philp on August 20, 2019, 10:11:28 PM
Is looking grand.

I might get mine done before you but then I am just planning on adding the trash chute, upgrading the shield generators and the engines and then light it.
Of course, I haven't started yet and I have never lit a kit before so who knows.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 21, 2019, 01:42:32 AM
thanks guys
Philip, lighting is not as complex as it seems. There are plenty of drop in lighting kits and its hard to go wrong with them, so you should be fine :)
Hope to see your SD when it's done - or even a WIP?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on August 29, 2019, 01:05:19 AM
hey guys
I've started the roof panels now and added some details onto the body to try and blend it al in a bit better. It's slow work but quite rewarding (well, to me it is)
I'll start making my way forward now and finish off this side and then mentally prep myself to start all over again for the other side! Joy

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48640809292_6126c42e88_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7dRYY)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48640314858_526e1ece3f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7bk1f)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48640804287_c1c443bb55_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7dQuF)

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48640668366_689f904b95_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7d96d)

I only took 5 pictures before the light ran out, so that's it till next time. Which incidentally won't likely be until I have finished most of the other side, so another few weeks away.
I'm also going to take the plunge and teach myself how to use Arduino boards, which ought to be interesting. There's heaps of forums about how to do it, so I reckon I'll pick it up easy enough. (famous last words)
Thanks as always for looking. Feel free to comment - good or bad. You don't need too though - the view count tells me if your interested enough.
Cheers
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 29, 2019, 02:54:30 AM
Boggle mode is FULL on!  :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 29, 2019, 06:30:23 AM
I've run out of things to say about this build.  :bow:

Just going to sit back and enjoy watching it all come together  :wub:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 29, 2019, 07:56:34 AM
I've said all I can, really. So I'll just sit here & drool over the awesomeness, knowing there isn't a snowflake's chance in Hell that I could do what you do without going insane. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on August 29, 2019, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 29, 2019, 07:56:34 AM
I've said all I can, really. So I'll just sit here & drool over the awesomeness, knowing there isn't a snowflake's chance in Hell that I could do what you do without going insane. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow: :bow:

Depends on which Hell you're going to.  Hell, MI or Hell Norway, there's a good chance 6 to 8 months out of the year  :wacko:

And I will agree with our senior marsupial on the build and enjoy watching it come together
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 04, 2019, 07:04:46 AM
I'll be honest and say I don't know what you mean by "MI" or "hell Norway". I'm certainly not taking any kind of offense to it - I just don't know what context it's meant in sorry.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on September 04, 2019, 07:49:38 AM
Quote from: sykotik on September 04, 2019, 07:04:46 AM
I'll be honest and say I don't know what you mean by "MI" or "hell Norway". I'm certainly not taking any kind of offense to it - I just don't know what context it's meant in sorry.

There's  town in the state of Michigan named Hell, and apparently a village in Norway also named Hell, but the context was in reply to Wombie about having a snowflake's chance in hell about keeping his sanity doing what you're doing with this star destroyer build
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 04, 2019, 02:14:23 PM
LMAO! I had no idea there was a place named "Hell" in either of those countries
Makes more sense to me now  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 16, 2019, 03:56:17 AM
hi fellas
Time for a quick update. The wife is heading away for a week with the boy, so I shall have lots of spare time to invest in getting some serious work done on this - provided World of Warships doesn't interfere too much. I promise nothing....
 
I've started work on the "nose" as you'll see. I steered clear of cutting it off and dropping it like others before me. Fair enough if I was replicating the studio build but it's not necessary here. I realised I had cut out the backing board where the front roof sits thinking there would be something sitting in front of it - there is, but it's not what I thought. A quick sheet of styrene fixed that and I shall add some detail to it in due course. My intention is to have some pipes running back over the edge up into the cavity above it.
Time will tell if that will be something that could work as the roofs will be the last thing to be glued on after the fibers have gone in.
Still lots of detail to add to the rest of the surface but I am getting there slowly but surely

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48742265028_96d15b9e44_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgbReN)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48742590521_6001b3d183_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgdvZK)

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48742769842_4092363531_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgeriu)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48742768517_74e7a6e3ee_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgeqUD)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48742767002_7bfbddb1e8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgeqsw)

The rear side roofs are also completed and ready to go on. They were a nice quick and easy job - well, in consideration of everything else they were

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48742765557_63b3173dc5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgeq2B)

Well, that's all I have for now, but hopefully the next update will be better
As always, thanks for stopping by and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 16, 2019, 05:05:14 AM
 :bow: :bow: :bow: :cheers:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 16, 2019, 05:40:37 AM
Every time I look at pics of this amazing project I totally lose my sense of scale.

It always looks as if it's a mile and a half long at the very least!  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 16, 2019, 06:39:53 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 16, 2019, 05:40:37 AM
Every time I look at pics of this amazing project I totally lose my sense of scale.

It always looks as if it's a mile and a half long at the very least!  :o

You and me both  :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 27, 2019, 09:42:08 PM
Hi again

Last update before a short tools down period. I've not really spent as much time on the bench as I thought I would but did still manage some decent progress

The front end is as busy as I want it now. Just need to start filling out areas around the hull. I won't go to crazy as I want to try keep to the grand scale and immensity of the ship.

At the same time, most of this detail will likely be obscured by the paint.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806881837_5fa23fbdc5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmU2yH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806880747_2cfc898445_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmU2eV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806739731_f1aba36cce_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmTijB)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806878882_c28e8a528c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmU1FL)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806383443_1a39638f18_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmRtpH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806448753_009df2df25_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmRNPK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806876657_93c110bd25_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmU12p)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806381263_d668230994_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmRsL8)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48806445663_23a46b2baf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hmRMUt)

Well, that's it for now but feel free to share any thoughts you may have

Till next time

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 27, 2019, 10:13:55 PM
My thought is that it is not symmetrical.
Which doesn't matter, but you did ask.   ;D

Your work shows up the relative lack of detail out on the wide open spaces of the hull.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 27, 2019, 10:44:26 PM
Thanks Fred
I've purposely not made it symmetrical as I figure ships like this should need not have the same piece of machinery or pipe in the same place on each side.   :mellow:
Works for me  :rolleyes:
But thanks for the honest observation  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 28, 2019, 12:30:25 AM
I, too, have a bit of a symmetrical mindset. However, not everything is symmetrical; aircraft carriers for example.

I love the details! :thumbsup:

(Don't forget to do a wash, that should help to details "pop" ... &, maybe, a bit of highlight dry brushing. ;D)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 28, 2019, 01:56:20 AM
Quote from: sykotik on September 27, 2019, 10:44:26 PM

I've purposely not made it symmetrical as I figure ships like this should need not have the same piece of machinery or pipe in the same place on each side.   :mellow:


Totally agree with you
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2019, 02:07:26 AM
Quote from: sykotik on September 27, 2019, 09:42:08 PM

The front end is as busy as I want it now. Just need to start filling out areas around the hull. I won't go to crazy as I want to try keep to the grand scale and immensity of the ship.


You've absolutely NO trouble doing that!  :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 28, 2019, 02:13:44 AM
It wasn't a complaint or a criticism, just the first thought I had.
As a professional photographer (I take passport photos in the post office and I get paid to do so - ergo I am a professional photographer... ;D) I can tell you that few people have symmetrical faces.  And some have very asymmetric faces (although pointing it out is not very popular).

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 28, 2019, 02:20:59 AM
Some forms of asymmetry can be quite attractive under the right circumstances. That's what I think anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 28, 2019, 02:49:56 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 28, 2019, 02:20:59 AM
Some forms of asymmetry can be quite attractive under the right circumstances. That's what I think anyway  ;)

True.  But not one eye an inch lower than the other or a missing ear.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 29, 2019, 05:52:32 AM
True......but I did say "some"  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: sykotik on September 29, 2019, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 28, 2019, 02:13:44 AM
It wasn't a complaint or a criticism, just the first thought I had.

Im not in anyway taken aback or offended but I am curious to know if you think it looks unbalanced? I'd honestly really would like an insight to that aspect. That's open to everyone BTW.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 30, 2019, 04:06:41 AM
Quote from: sykotik on September 29, 2019, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 28, 2019, 02:13:44 AM
It wasn't a complaint or a criticism, just the first thought I had.

Im not in anyway taken aback or offended but I am curious to know if you think it looks unbalanced? I'd honestly really would like an insight to that aspect. That's open to everyone BTW.

No.  You have got the amount of greeble balanced.  Both sides look, not the same, but in balance.  I had to look to see that it isn't symmetrical.  I feel you know where to stop.  Not everyone does.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 30, 2019, 07:12:12 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 30, 2019, 04:06:41 AM
  I feel you know where to stop.  Not everyone does.

Possibly the least appreciated of virtues  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on January 07, 2020, 03:25:36 AM
Oh I managed to sign in with my new name! Yay! I prefer this name to sykotik.

Hi everyone - happy new year! :) Hope we all managed to get some bench time in. I know I didn't


So I have not long gotten back from holidays and decided it was high time I expended some time into this project. To be honest, I spent a lot of time thinking about this build and the things I could add and by the end of it, was busting to start back onto it.

Also, finally, I have settled on the base layout and how it's going to be displayed. It'll look pretty wicked if I get it right. BTW, does anyone know of a way to bend brass tube to an angle of 90 degrees whilst still maintaining the structural integrity of the tube itself, as in, not collapse in on itself?


So, I got home and promptly got bored of detailing the main body so I decided to move onto something else for a while. In this instance, I chose the top nose piece to play with. Better than my own one right?


Zvezda have created these rather large, blank protrusions from the top surface which just look like blocks. They appear to have no function what so ever. They're just sit there like a zit.

Can't have that, can we now. So, dress it up with some strip shelves, add some various piping and you have something much more interesting. I'll even try to stick in a fiber optic or 2.


There's just some more plates to add then I'll look at the undersides of those edges and add some detail to those as there are woefully lacking. Then it'll be back to the main body and finish that off before moving onto the bottom half.


Anyway, here's where I currently stand:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344049443_0d90e2034c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibn9Ma)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344507646_81a454d2ec_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibpuZd)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344059178_441c6b3dbc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibncF1)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344512326_17a6b1007f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibpwnU)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344727012_f13bcdb939_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibqCco)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344054543_aa8b83d21a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibnbi6)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344718567_15359a79e4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibqzFM)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344500896_fc8ec57c7d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibpsYQ)


And I just couldn't help myself, and took a pic which it joined up - just to remind myself of how big this ship is of course :)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49344722212_7615214675_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ibqALC)


Well, that's all I have for now, but I will be back in a while once the nose is done.

As always, thanks for sticking around and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on January 08, 2020, 02:37:50 AM
One way of bending pipe without it collapsing is to use a plumbers pipe bender like this.
(https://media.rs-online.com/t_large/R0514896-01.jpg)
The one in the picture will be designed to bend 10mm and 15mm diameter  copper water pipe.
Radius of the curve will be the radius of the aluminium "wheels" the pipe is bent around.
Copper pipe would look great polished up supporting your SD.
If you don't know any friendly plumbers then you could hire one from a tool hire company.

Other bending options (if you wanted a tighter radius or a non plumbing size pipe) to prevent collapsing include internal springs or filling with sand.  But both would require heating the pipe (I think).  A pipe bender will do it cold (with copper anyway) and is easy to use.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Rheged on January 08, 2020, 03:11:52 AM
You can bend copper cold with a bending spring, although it does call for a strange mixture of brute force and considerable delicacy. (Just don't ask how I know this)  I've still got  1/2 inch and 3/4 inch springs that were part of dad's toolkit.  He was a design engineer (and eventually a very senior, gold crested building services design chief/deputy county architect) but for six months of his training he had to be part of the team actually installing schemes he had designed........this is a very salutary experience!!    He would most certainly have agreed with Zenrat's comment about knowing when to stop.  You obviously do know and things look the better for it!  Well done.

I like the new name.............will we all get invitations to your tea party?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on January 08, 2020, 04:18:01 AM
I was given this link to the perfect tool for the job. I bought it naturally:
https://www.amazon.com/LORESO-Bender...a-849814836633
I like the idea of the spring though - that's quite creative.
As for the name change - it's the handle I use on all the other boards I frequent. No tea party for me though sadly as I drank it all  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on January 15, 2020, 04:57:38 AM
Good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on January 20, 2020, 03:13:39 AM
hi guys
quick update. I've finished with the top side of the nose section for now and won't be adding any more surface detail to it until it's joined to the rear section.
I'll be moving on the the main superstructure sidewalls and finish those off plus the roof sections and then add the last of the surface detail to the right side.

Sorry for worktop pictures, but I couldn't be bothered getting out the photo tent tonight - too much effort

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413611121_9a53a69d2a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihvF3r)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413136153_cd07f5ddbb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihteRk)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413619561_b4de661998_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihvHxX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413811037_596a8e4c28_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihwGtg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413142173_80db8a4e6d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihtgD8)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413812152_541dcd0480_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihwGNu)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413616866_46bf8ff4c4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihvGKu)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413144968_b7cac05a6c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ihthtj)

It's current rest place:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49413612281_572b8b5656_c.jpg)

Well, that's it for now but as always, thanks for stopping in and having a look
Till next time
Si (https://flic.kr/p/2ihvFor)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on January 20, 2020, 03:19:51 AM
The closer in pics are great to see the little detail but it's that last one which really emphasises what you have taken on.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 20, 2020, 04:43:00 AM
I'm always gob-smacked at the results of your detailing of these things, but how do you actually DO it?

Are they very small pieces of styrene cut to shape and glued on, or some other branch of obscure-eering?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on January 20, 2020, 04:56:29 AM
Thanks guys. Yeah, I often sit here and realise how big a job I've started but when it's done, it should be pretty cool (hopefully)

Kit, there's no secret to it and you're right - it is mostly just styrene strips cut into chips with a razor and then I use a sharp knife to lightly skewer the chip on and dip it int a puddle of Tamiya extra thin cement. The puddle dries up quick so you only get a few chips on before you have to top it up again. It's long arduous process but the results speak for themselves. It's just then a matter of shaping them and putting them on places where it could do with some more surface detail.

I know the large surface areas are pretty flat and look quite expansive and they still will. It looks overly busy now because of the colour but once the paint goes on, you'd have to be looking pretty closely to see it and recognize what's kit and what's not (not that I actually think anyone would wonder that). In fact, I dare say the average non-modelling viewer wouldn't know.
Ever the silent hero...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on January 20, 2020, 06:37:33 AM
Well, mate, I'll sing your praises loudly (if somewhat off-key & out of tune) any day! ;D :thumbsup:

Don't worry about the desk-top images, it just reinforces just how insanely small the details actually are. :o :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 07, 2020, 07:06:30 PM
thanks mate. Sorry I haven't replied to you earlier.

So, I have managed to get most of the starboard sidewalls and roof parts detailing done with only 3 left to go. Then it'll be time to blend in the walls to the surface and add some other stuff around - then the last part of the top side surface detailing will be over.
I'm still deciding if I will paint first then add the fiber or vice versa. I'm leaning toward paint first because I just think it'd be too hard to be able to trim off fibers without damaging the paint work but shuddering at time it'll take to do it like that. No pain no gain right?
Anyway, here's some pics of where I am at currently

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49504115462_f8bb2fafc0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqvwQ7)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49504130642_8f27be75e2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqvBkQ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49504129297_2a6932842f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqvAWD)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49503402508_d96d568518_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqrSTN)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49503912406_b48df43699_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iquut9)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49504123567_0cca914487_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqvzeR)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49503903001_b6fc45497c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqurEZ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49504120377_6e2130089d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqvyhR)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49503395533_16fa623f7d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iqrQPx)

That's it for now, but as always, thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on February 07, 2020, 07:31:46 PM
I've run out of superlatives.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on February 08, 2020, 01:56:18 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 07, 2020, 07:31:46 PM
I've run out of superlatives.

You and me both.

Mind you whoever is turning out these giant prop bottles of Tamiya Extra Thin is on to a winner  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on February 09, 2020, 02:11:10 AM
I'll settle for "awesome", again. :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 02, 2020, 06:42:51 PM
I had the camera out today for other things and decided today is a good a day as any to take a couple of update shots. I'm not as far along as I would have liked but I had the spare time. I'm almost finished the top. I just have to finish the edging and then the top will be considered done.

I test fitted the bridge to the body to make sure I could. There are definitely going to be fitting issues but nothing some super glue won't take care of. Looks like I'll also have to add some more details once the body has been glued together to help tie in the areas better. This adds to the ever compounding issue of painting first or not (first world problems....)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611708396_2eedd37177_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iA1YsG)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611191038_982d34e4dc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2izYjEJ)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611190053_1667ee8f43_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2izYjnK)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611958662_f9f3ac181b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iA3fRC)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611705041_b7b33232a6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iA1XsR)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611696011_bf4ec4aff3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iA1UMa)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611710306_2133e97593_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iA1Z2C)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611177898_ab1e11f770_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2izYfLb)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611193238_5e261240ce_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2izYkjE)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49611698536_a230d369e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iA1VwG)


Anyways, that's all the pics I took but thanks for looking in.

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on March 02, 2020, 07:39:31 PM
That is SO F___ING AWESOME! :blink: :bow: :bow: :bow: :party: :cheers:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 02, 2020, 11:42:33 PM
My jaw has just bounced off the floor.

It's AMAZING!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on March 03, 2020, 06:11:02 AM
My flabber is absolutely ghasted  :o :o :o :o

Unbelievable  :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: su27rules on March 03, 2020, 09:49:03 AM
 :thumbsup: :wub: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 04, 2020, 12:52:15 AM
Thanks guys. I pretty much finished the top surface this afternoon. Just 4 cm left to go, then I'll add a few details to the underside of it along the side walls to give it more depth
I envision a trip to the paint shop next week!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 09, 2020, 06:19:07 AM
Hello once again everyone. It's been few months since this was last updated and sorry to say, I haven't done as much as you might hope I had, but I have finished off the top section - well, mostly. I still have the SMD's to add for the trench spot lighting but in regards to detailing, that's all done


So here is the top section shown as finished. I added some of the bits that sort of frame some of the lines to balance it out. You'll catch my drift if you look at the last picture in the previous update and look to the left of the ship and you can see some chips that run down the mid-section in a line toward the front. They have been replicated on the other side to make it right.


That was a lot of explaining for something so trivial, so I shall move on and let the pics do the talking:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50206152997_f70879e7ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juxE8x)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205872696_2371408e1e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juwdNL)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205876266_39eb5b09a2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juweSj)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205875316_83037fc473_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juwezW)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205874366_0ab97cefc0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juweiy)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205873596_217e50f47a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juwe5h)


Its pretty much the same on the other side. I might yet bulk some of the rear section out some more but I need to see how the side walls go on first. I do need to sort out that section at the very back of the ship - looking at these reminded me about it

The bottom hull has also been started. I made the very foolish mistake of gluing the nose to the body in a hurry to install the hangar bay. This in hindsight was very silly. I has also located glue marks and other blemishes on there and I am not happy about it. I do not know when or how they got there but I also realised I forgot to grind down the old hangar surrounds and it has created a gap where there shouldn't be and now I have to fix and live with my decision to install when I did.

Still, none of this is unfix-able and I will fix it as much as I can accordingly. I just wish I hadn't created this unnecessary work for myself is all


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50206146602_1bd4c0ac96_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juxCeh)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205868911_6029582202_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juwcFv)


Well, that's all I have for now, but I will be back again soon enough. As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 09, 2020, 06:26:59 AM
Good to see the update
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 09, 2020, 06:31:51 AM
Bogglement factor maximum!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on August 10, 2020, 02:37:17 AM
... and the masterclass in Sci Fi modelling continues.

Simon.. just awesome :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 10, 2020, 02:48:48 AM
Just keep on pottering along, I'm fine with that. No point rushing such awesome work! :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 10, 2020, 06:44:18 AM
thanks for the encouraging posts guys  :thumbsup:
When I'm working on this, I work to the rule of 'once round the glue jar' before stopping. I know some of you maybe like :o WTF? but I make puddles of Extra Thin Cement on top of the glue bottle to be able to dip my styrene chips into before attaching them. The glue being what it is evaporates pretty quick and after a while of topping the puddle up and dipping bits into it, the puddle becomes to dense to work with, so I make a new puddle next to it and so on until Ive been round the bottle once. That's usually about 2-4 hours worth of work. I have to leave it over night to dry and then scrape it off with the back of the knife and then we are back to the beginning.
This and the cutting of such fine slivers drastically adds to the time it takes to update this thread. Thankfully you guys are very forgiving of this where as some sites, people tend to get bored and over it if its not done in 10 minutes.

Anyways, thanks again guys for continuing to look in. I appreciate it  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 10, 2020, 06:49:40 AM
I do something very similar when I'm using super glue, except I use old milk bottle caps. So fully understand what you mean
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 16, 2020, 05:37:11 AM
hi guys
I am posting a problem I am currently having with my pipe bender. I am still getting kinks in the bend!  :banghead: :banghead: I am using it the way I've seen on YouTube and still, I can't get a nice 90degree bend in brass pipe. It's driving me nuts and I'm running out of pipe. The guide is the right size for the pipe but as soon as I hit 45 degrees the kink starts. Ive tried brass, copper and aluminium and all 3 do the exact same thing. What am I doing wrong???
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2020, 05:43:12 AM
For larger pipe (1/2" bore and upwards) we use a spring poked down inside the pre-bent pipe.

Is that possible with model size pipe?

And you may need to anneal the pipe first as well.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 16, 2020, 05:52:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2020, 05:43:12 AM

And you may need to anneal the pipe first as well.

My gut feeling would be to bend to 45 degrees, or just under, then anneal and then complete the bend. The annealing should take some of the stress out of the pipe. I'm trying to think what else you could use for a former for the pipes interior ? However it's a very long time since I did my basic metallurgy course.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 16, 2020, 06:23:06 AM
Im using 1/4 inch pipe which will be used to suspend the SD over the base. Ive got some pipe springs coming to me in the mail but I thought I'd try the bender first.
The guys on YT don't anneal or heat the pipe first, they just bend it. So I am completely flummoxed as to why it isn't working for me.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 16, 2020, 07:10:22 AM
Small diameter, especially internal diameter, pipe doesn't like sharp bends which I know doesn't help you.

I'm afraid I've never tried to bend anything that small.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2020, 07:31:20 AM
IIRC you could get bending springs for 1/4" pipe, as we used that size for pilot pressure lines, but we rarely bent it sharply enough to need the springs, a 6" radius bend was the smallest usually.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Rheged on August 16, 2020, 09:13:37 AM
I've still got my late father's 1/2 and 3/4 inch pipe bending springs , which I have used successfully, but only on fairly large radius (6" radius or more)curves.    On first reading this, I nipped out to the garage and tried bending a 2" radius bend in a piece of gash 1/2"  copper pipe.....it started wrinkling!!     
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 16, 2020, 11:09:28 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I tried filling a tube with sand and bending it again but I still had the same issue.  :banghead: :banghead: I may outsource the stand if I can't get it to work properly. Any potential takers?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 17, 2020, 04:14:13 AM
Unless you need to use tube for a specific reason (like running wiring through it) then use rod.
You should be able to bend that OK without it kinking.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 17, 2020, 06:51:26 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 17, 2020, 04:14:13 AM
Unless you need to use tube for a specific reason (like running wiring through it) then use rod.
You should be able to bend that OK without it kinking.

This is Madhatter, mate, of course there'll be wiring! ;D

For the insane illumination that goes along with the insane detail! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 17, 2020, 05:20:50 PM
Yes there will be wiring running through from the base, so a tube is required  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on August 17, 2020, 09:30:59 PM
So a 90 degree elbow is out of the question ? but that would depend on the metal you are using as to how it could be secured.

You mentioned suspend the Star Destroyer over the base, so I suspecting that tube is also to conduit the wiring/power.

One method I have used on a much smaller scale is to bend rod, then run the wires (only talking Power +ve -ve) along the rod, then heatshrink the lot.

Although knowing your presentation standards, I can see you wanting something schmick and seamless.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 18, 2020, 01:53:00 AM
A 90 degree bend is what I want in a tube, although I realise it would need to be a sweeping bend which is fine. The tighter the bend the better but obviously I would need to work within certain constraints.

The aim is to have 2 poles on which the SD rests on with the ability to slide it on and off the poles for easier transportation.  There will have plugs on the ends that connect inside the model. I have it all worked out in my head but the bending of the pipes is proving more of a headache than I thought it would be. I am waiting on a new soldering station which has a hot air blower as well so I will be able to anneal the pipe first. However, I have run out of pipe so I can't test that out anytime soon.

The thought of using an elbow like I did with the Venator did cross my mind but I wasn't happy with that and a pole is smaller and less obvious in my view. Mind you, if this pole situation doesn't get resolved, I may have to resort to a single bottom on the bottom but I want to steer clear of that option if I can.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 18, 2020, 05:48:43 AM
Hi again everyone

So, time for a small update. Things are progressing slower than I had hoped as I had to fix my screw up with the hangar bay installation. I've got one side sorted and I just need to finish the other side later on. I forgot to grind down the existing surface detail before slotting in the hangar bay, but it's fixable.  You can see the gap that mistake left in the first pic if you look where it goes in. Then on the pic below it, you can see my fix for it which is working well.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240638897_4da9a03836_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxApA2)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240416786_2080ae0b14_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxzgyw)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240630552_c4811b9169_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxAn79)


It looks very busy up here but the paint will bring that down a few notches. I'm also going to space out the detail more and not add as much the further back I go. I have to be careful not to over do it (although I dare say there are some of you who already think I'm well past that) as I fear I will loose the grandness of the ship.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240415686_87fb8ba95e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxzgey)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50239774918_f8df1e164a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxvYKQ)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240635327_ca2b092b3d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxAowt)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240637787_18320892f8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxApfT)


Well, that's all I have for now, but once I have done something worth taking pics of, I will of course update again.

Feel free to critique, make a suggestion, comment or just do nothing at all but as always, thank you for stopping by and having a look

Till next time

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 19, 2020, 03:28:27 AM
What's to critique? :unsure:

Awesomeness is awesomeness & is completely impossible for a sane (or even marginally insane ;)) person to criticise! ;D

Worship? Yes! Criticise? No! :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 19, 2020, 04:07:38 AM
I have a question.

How do you line up the little bits when you stick them on?  They are all rectangular and so it would show if they were crooked. 
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 19, 2020, 05:06:07 AM
...and how do you get them in the correct place too?

It's not as if you can get out there and measure the locations on the RW machine!  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 19, 2020, 05:16:02 AM
Fair question  I put them on with a knife and use the ol mark 1 eyeballs to get them straight before the glue sets. You don't have a lot of time as its fast drying cement but after a few years of practice I almost have it down pat. Its also the angle in which you skewer the part to the blade tip. If I want the part to run straight up, then I'll maneuver the piece till its at a comfy angle, dip the part in the cement puddle and on it goes. I choose the spot where I want it to go first then do the above.
I've been contemplating doing a short video on how I go about detailing for those who are interested in doing similar detailing but I think I'd feel a bit stupid doing a YouTube video. However, if I can help someone get a better feel for it, then Im all for it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 19, 2020, 05:26:05 AM
You obviously have a better eye than me.

Thanks.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 19, 2020, 06:09:35 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 19, 2020, 05:16:02 AM
Fair question  I put them on with a knife and use the ol mark 1 eyeballs to get them straight before the glue sets. You don't have a lot of time as its fast drying cement but after a few years of practice I almost have it down pat.

It sounds daft, but it can almost become an automatic action. The brain/eye/hand combination can become quite well trained.

I couldn't even begin to do it.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 19, 2020, 09:57:44 AM
I found doing the portholes on the Leeds went Ok with my little jig thing at first, but later on, including the whole of the starboard side, that I got the decal almost spot on first time amazingly. Only 2-3 of them needed adjustment.

I guess it's the way some brains work.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 20, 2020, 04:06:56 AM
Whereas i'm trying to drill a series of lightening holes in a straight line on a car chassis and failing.   :angry:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on August 20, 2020, 04:19:17 AM
Somehow, I think what you consider a screw up is vastly different to my definition  :o

Nothing to say.. just in awe. I thought that your Venator was just the ducks guts... this is better. Much, much better
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 20, 2020, 04:58:09 AM
Fred, why not try marking out where you want the holes to go with a pencil first then drill. You'll get a better result that way

Thanks Brian. The Venator was my first ever go at super detailing and I've gotten in some practice since then :) It still sits on my shelf next to my work bench as a constant reminder that I can do better.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 20, 2020, 05:10:28 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 20, 2020, 04:58:09 AM
Fred, why not try marking out where you want the holes to go with a pencil first then drill. You'll get a better result that way...

I've done that.  My problem is getting the hole started exactly on the line.
They are not far off but I can see it.
I've been using a 1.2mm drill for the pilot holes but think using a smaller one might be more accurate.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on August 20, 2020, 05:35:32 AM
Quote from: zenrat on August 20, 2020, 05:10:28 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 20, 2020, 04:58:09 AM
Fred, why not try marking out where you want the holes to go with a pencil first then drill. You'll get a better result that way...

I've done that.  My problem is getting the hole started exactly on the line.
They are not far off but I can see it.
I've been using a 1.2mm drill for the pilot holes but think using a smaller one might be more accurate.

Simon, with your indulgence.
Fred, one way to get a start is to maybe use something like a Ponce wheel
(https://www.speedpress.com/ProdImages/t396.gif)
If you can get a straight edge lined up, run the Ponce wheel along, this will give you some marks that will catch the drill, nice and even. Of course getting a wheel to match your dimensions may be the tricky bit.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 20, 2020, 05:35:42 AM
The other thing I do occasionally is use a pin to put a dent in first then drill. A sharp  knife point is also another tool to use to use as a guide for the drill bit.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 21, 2020, 04:05:00 AM
Ponce wheel would work.  I also considered scrIbing a line for the drill to slip into.  Same problem with both techniques - i'd have to fill the holes/line.
But instead I switched to a 0.8mm drill bit for the pilot holes.  Still not perfect but it helped.
You can see the results here.
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=39925.3405
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: ChernayaAkula on August 22, 2020, 03:13:13 PM
Try starting the pilot hole with a hypodermic needle.  :thumbsup: They're so crazy sharp that once the point touches the plastic they will not wander. A few twists and you have a perfectly centred pilot hole. Works better than a pin IMHO as it actually removes a bit of plastic and doesn't just force the plastic to the side. Also works better than a blade. That could be down to the "angle of attack" of th eneddle's cutting surface, but that's just a guess.

Tried opening the muzzle of GSh-23 gun packs and some air scoops on a couple of MiG-21s. Tried it with fine drill bist first - both in a Proxxon and with a hand drill vise -, but they would always wander. Tried using a hypodermic needle and now it's a piece of cake. Saw the trick in a PLASMO video on YouTube.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 06, 2020, 05:47:13 AM
hey guys

Well, the cursed COVID continues and so does this build. Over 2 years now and lots more to do. I've slowed down a bit lately due to other things on the go but there is some progress - probably not as much as you'd like. but there is some

I spent a few hours on the dome thing on the bottom and I am pretty happy with how it's come out (one 1 side anyway - haven't done the other yet). I've added stuff to the man hull plates and now I'm concentrating on the raise edges along the center of the ship. I'm going to do concentrated pockets of details here and there but lessen it as I work outward

You can see the difference in the 2 sides one of the overall shots. It's pretty bare on the right and not so much on the left. As I say frequently, I need to be careful not to loose the sheer size of it with too much detail. From afar, and under paint, it'll look a lot less busy but up close is where the time spent on this will come through.

Anyway, enough words, you came to see pics, so here's my latest update


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50311805657_32b544c563_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDT9Z8)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50311804322_9b959d9db9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDT9A7)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50310963243_215ca22461_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDNQyK)


Looks like I need to fix a couple of sprue pipe too:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50311628816_2466926c46_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDSfq9)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50310960843_6c734f7b36_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDNPRn)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50310959618_8c0a628cea_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDNPuf)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50310955948_40b0a5f2bf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDNNoY)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50311793922_0af3082e70_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDT6uN)


Anyways, that's all I have sorry. Sorry for the yellowish photos but I couldn't be bothered getting the light tent set up tonight, but next time, I'll hopefully have better quality photos

As always, thanks for stopping by and having a look!

Stay safe and I'll catch you round the boards

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 06, 2020, 05:57:31 AM
I've said it before and i'll probly say it again but...

:bow:

I still think you are bonkers though.
;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 06, 2020, 05:58:38 AM
   ;D    ;D    ;D

:bow: :bow: :bow:

Plus what Fred said! ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 07, 2020, 06:34:33 AM
Whoooooaaaaaaaaaaa  :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 07, 2020, 06:52:24 AM
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:
I have broken away from detailing the ship to start work on the base as I need a break from the relentless space of the hull
I made a good start on making my own Death Star tiles which I will cast multiple copies of and those in turn will form the base. Fingers crossed it works but so far so good. Time will tell  :rolleyes: I'll take some pics tomorrow night
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 08, 2020, 07:03:37 AM
Well, somehow I managed to lock this thread but thanks to Chris and Fred, I'm back in action!!
Here are a couple of pics of the start of my base. Doesn't look much now but these are just detail tiles which will form a much bigger area later on

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50319729412_0845a4cb06_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEzLrA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50319550376_8e1e702b63_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEyRdL)

Yes, there will be a trench for X-Wings to run down to :)

This base idea is nothing new, but I have always wanted to have a go at building something like this and this is the perfect time. If it fails, then I'll just stick to a pole and mirror (with something built along the sides or similar. I have a back up plan!)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 08, 2020, 07:11:19 AM
Yet someone else who has a giant scalpel, not only that but a giant lighter to go with it  ;) ;D

I'm impressed that you can use a heated blade (assuming you are ?) with such precision and no mess  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 08, 2020, 07:24:54 AM
Nah, the blade's not heated. The lighter is just there for scale reference   :thumbsup:
Got to love those novelty knives huh?  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 08, 2020, 07:28:39 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on September 08, 2020, 07:24:54 AM
Nah, the blade's not heated. The lighter is just there for scale reference   :thumbsup:


Ah, right. I thought the discolouration on the tip of the blade was where it had been heated. My mistake

Quote from: Madhatter on September 08, 2020, 07:24:54 AM

Got to love those novelty knives huh?  ;D

You sure do  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 09, 2020, 05:11:42 AM
This last update has not changed my opinion of your sanity...
;)

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 09, 2020, 06:08:29 AM
WHAAAAT?  :o :o

OK, consider me boggled, totally.

But how do you make those little geeblie things in the first place?

Especially the tiny round ones with bumps on, looking a bit like a COVID-19 virus..................Ooooer.......... :(
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 09, 2020, 07:00:41 AM
Its not as hard as it might look. Start with say a tube, cut a bit off, and add some slivers of strip to the side and you have an exhaust vent. At this scale, you don't have to be to precise but have enough detail that it looks functional. Same goes with those other bit. Lay down one piece of strip, then add another on top and so on until you have the shape you want. I'm using pics from various sources as a rough guide to what they should look like.I even use my Bandai DS bases as a guide to help get the shapes.  :thumbsup: What ever works I guess  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 09, 2020, 07:39:12 AM
More power to you then.

They look wonderful, but once on the model they're MAGNIFICENT!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on September 10, 2020, 12:37:25 AM
 :wub:

Still producing raptures
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 10, 2020, 02:59:52 AM
Yep, I can see how that works;

I need a break from all this micro-fiddly detail work on the star destroyer .... Think I'll do this micro-fiddly detail work on the base! :o :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on September 10, 2020, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 10, 2020, 02:59:52 AM
Yep, I can see how that works;

I need a break from all this micro-fiddly detail work on the star destroyer .... Think I'll do this micro-fiddly detail work on the base! :o :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: ;D

At least he's not working around the Super Laser.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/6Sy0ugkPeEyjTl2-L18OsV4qP5c=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6302041/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-07%20at%207.57.05%20AM.png)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 21, 2020, 11:19:12 PM
so, my tube bending springs arrived today, so filled with hope, I tried bending some tube. Kinked
OK, no worries, filled it with sand and tried again: kinked
Alright then, filled it with sand, heated it then tried again: kinked
last do, filled with sand, heated it and tried the tube bender: Kinked
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I may have to forgo my idea of an extended U Bend support idea and resort to a couple of poles underneath which is not the road I want to go down
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 22, 2020, 03:48:29 AM
That sucks! :(

Wish I had a solution for you ... Do you have a local plumber? Preferably an "old school" guy, who did his apprenticeship bending copper pipe? :unsure:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 22, 2020, 03:59:13 AM
Bugger.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 27, 2020, 06:52:32 AM
Well, the new sheets arrived on Friday and I am now half way through making the master base piece. I should be able to update this soon
If anyone has any ideas on how to side mount this, I am very open to suggestions  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 28, 2020, 04:44:57 AM
Hi everyone

Well, my replacement grid sheets finally arrived last week and I have now finished my master which I will make a cast of tomorrow and hopefully, will be able to produce enough copies to cover a large area.

Started off with this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50393656092_4d69327f1d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jM7Egw)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50392795508_4a07f7a1b5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jM3frS)


Ended up with this:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50392795288_5b29bc45e9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jM3fo5)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50392794973_dc67923268_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jM3fhD)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50393655132_0f0ded512b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jM7DYY)


Yeah its not perfect but I'm still happy with it

Will post the results of the casting even if it fails

Thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on September 28, 2020, 04:51:40 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on September 27, 2020, 06:52:32 AM
...If anyone has any ideas on how to side mount this, I am very open to suggestions  :thumbsup:

Continue as planned but use metal rod instead of tube.  You should be able to bend that OK.
Instead of running wiring for the lights through tubes use the rods as conductors.  You'll only be using low voltage so you shouldn't electrocute anyone.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2020, 05:14:55 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on September 28, 2020, 04:44:57 AM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50392794973_dc67923268_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jM3fhD)


My eyes go all blurred looking at that! Quite what it's like seeing it in 3D boggles the mind!  :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on September 28, 2020, 05:34:29 AM
So. How are your shares in Evergreen going ?

Continuing on down the terrificness path :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 28, 2020, 06:55:37 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2020, 05:14:55 AM

My eyes go all blurred looking at that! Quite what it's like seeing it in 3D boggles the mind!  :o :o

My eyes went blurry a few months ago or more, but I do know what you mean. Amazing work  :thumbsup:

Just wonder if it could be 3D printed ?

Quote from: zenrat on September 28, 2020, 04:51:40 AM

Instead of running wiring for the lights through tubes use the rods as conductors.  You'll only be using low voltage so you shouldn't electrocute anyone.

I do find the use of shouldn't slightly unnerving in this context  :angel: ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 28, 2020, 08:05:44 AM
 :blink: :blink: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on September 28, 2020, 08:07:43 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 28, 2020, 08:05:44 AM
:blink: :blink: :bow:

Ditto
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 28, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
thanks guys
Funnily enough, I am currently looking into the whole 3D printing gig. I'm weighing up buying the Anycubic Photon S resin printer as I don't want the poorer quality PLA printing. I just need to get the OK from the Chief Financial Officer first as its a pretty big outlay ($500). A friend of mine has gifted me the SLA files for a 1/72 Razor Quest from The Mandalorian so that'll be my first print if/when I get the permission to hit the buy button
I don't know how to use CAD but I'm sure there will be someone who's done a DS base somewhere
Despite my new interest in 3D printing, I still like to do things the old school way - much more satisfying

As for my side mounting dilemma, I may just do the whole use solid rod and then run small wires on the outside of the rod to power the ship. Given it will be plugged into the mains, I don't want anyone touching it and frying themselves or blowing out all the LEDS that'll be inside. I would have preferred to have the wires on the inside, but I may just have to do an Elsa and 'let it go'....
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 28, 2020, 03:58:59 PM
Or; Make the mounts from rod, Dremel out a channel in the rod, put the wires in the channel, putty over the channel & paint to suit! ;D ... ? :unsure:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on September 28, 2020, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 28, 2020, 03:58:59 PM
Or; Make the mounts from rod, Dremel out a channel in the rod, put the wires in the channel, putty over the channel & paint to suit! ;D ... ? :unsure:

Alternative to that wires on the outside business and far less work, is to use heatshrink over the lot. I have used that method and it is quite acceptable and comes in a range of fun wacky colours  ;D

Quote from: Madhatter on September 28, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
Funnily enough, I am currently looking into the whole 3D printing gig. I'm weighing up buying the Anycubic Photon S resin printer as I don't want the poorer quality PLA printing.

Simon, I do not think you will regret the Anycubic purchase. The modelling buddies of mine who have one produce excellent models. The cost like anything, is relative and compared to when they were first released, have plummeted. Sheesshh ! My ABS old school UP 3D Plus filament printer cost twice that on special, back 5 odd years ago when it was the state of the art.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 28, 2020, 04:29:40 PM
yeah, I remember when 3D printing machines first came out - they were thousands of dollars! I know I'm baulking @ $500 but that's more the wife than me  :wacko:

I was thinking I should heat shrink the whole rod as well but in black of course - can't have the supports being more a focal point than the ship  ;D I do like the idea of dremelling out a channel though - I hadn't considered that. Good idea! Not sure I could have it straight enough though but worth a crack right?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 29, 2020, 04:04:49 AM
Well, the first cast was a failure due to the resin being too old. None of the detail tiles came out. So, need to but more resin
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 29, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
I'm also going to cheat and am scrapping the original base and have ordered a 3D printed tile in 1/2256 scale which I will take a mold of and cast numerous copies. This will give me a much more detailed base than I can make by hand.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 29, 2020, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: Madhatter on September 29, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
This will give me a much more detailed base than I can make by hand.

I doubt that very much ... but I do believe it'll save you a butt-ton of effort. ;D ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 29, 2020, 11:43:24 PM
Well, I've given myself a deadline to get this finished by next Feb so yeah, it will save me some effort that's for sure! Mind you, with the speed at which I build, I have my doubts I will make it. I could never do a commission build, that's for sure
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 30, 2020, 03:04:00 AM
Well, as I've only recently completed an armour build started almost 3 years ago, who am I to complain? :unsure: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on September 30, 2020, 03:40:54 PM
Really hanging out to see this.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Even more so if we can see it on a table somewhere next year
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 30, 2020, 07:47:51 PM
you and me both - hopefully, Expo will be back on next year!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on October 01, 2020, 04:15:26 AM
If not we can put on Whiffcon in my shed...
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 06, 2020, 03:22:22 PM


While I wait for my new 3D printed tile to arrive, I have been quietly working away on the ship and have finally finished one side. Now I just need to start the other side....

Trying to get a shuffle on this one as I want it done for Expo next year (providing its on of course)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50426727128_2ab1c1c736_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ3a8N)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50426728473_6779fcd3de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ3awZ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50426725633_7a37487242_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ39G2)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50427417386_e39da03767_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ6GjN)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50427593652_80bf5ab782_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ7AHS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50426721873_4a0257c7b5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ38zc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50426729818_8d25385c8f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ3aWb)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50427600857_a404622a85_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ7CS6)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50426732418_0c3fb1dabd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ3bH1)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50427603482_efa1aae64a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQ7DDm)
Well, that's it for now, but as always, thanks for looking!

Cheers

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 07, 2020, 01:57:12 AM
 :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on October 07, 2020, 06:29:21 AM
That just looks amazing  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM
Thanks guys

I was lucky to get some free time this afternoon, so I took some pictures of where I am currently up to

I have been working on this as well as the Batmobile and have actually got quite a bit done. I have cemented my base plans and I'll show you a picture later on of what I have in mind. So, I have been casting multiple copies of my very expensive 3D printed DS tile ready to layout on the sheet and that has consumed a fair amount of time so far, but TBH, it's not hard to mix up a batch of resin  and make a copy while waiting for the spuds to cook or what have you.

The surface detailing is coming along nicely. The main concentrations have been finished and now its just time to fill it out and then crack on with the side walls (what I have also started but not got very far with)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50535470341_c5952f5d60_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jZDuGM)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50535469696_3574f17beb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jZDuvE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50534749383_fff769b0b6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jZzNot)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50535470411_2dbcd42c4d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jZDuHZ)

And this is rough layout of how the base is going to go:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50534749623_490b471f12_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jZzNsB)

Well, that's it for this update, but the next one will likely be the completion of the lower hull and more work on the base

As always, thanks for continually coming in here and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 26, 2020, 09:21:24 PM
You'd think I'd be used to it by now but, nope, I'm always in awe! :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on October 27, 2020, 01:15:24 AM
cannot help myself.. I see and update that says Zvesda, first click

Simon.. the detail is just Stellar.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 27, 2020, 05:05:50 AM
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:
I'm really happy with how the base is coming together. I've reorientated the channel direction as well. It'll look so much better when the layers come in.
I need to take another molding of the master and a good cast example to make a 2 part mold. Increase productivity a bit
Im also pretty happy with my scratch built tractor beam thingies too. Saved me buying 3D parts
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on October 27, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM

The surface detailing is coming along nicely.

And the winner in this years "Art of Understatement Class" is ...........................  ;) :bow:

The level of detail knocks spots off a lot of cinema and t.v. props. As always I'm simply stunned.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 27, 2020, 08:08:48 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 27, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM

The surface detailing is coming along nicely.

And the winner in this years "Art of Understatement Class" is ...........................  ;) :bow:

The level of detail knocks spots off a lot of cinema and t.v. props. As always I'm simply stunned.


EXACTLY my own thoughts Chris, it's AWESOME!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 08, 2020, 11:13:21 PM
Hi everyone

Thought I would update this quickly while I had some spare time. As I have said previously, I have made a good start on the base. Most of my time has been spent making casts but I have actually cemented stuff together. The main service trench has been made and I am now making the lower level details. I've tried to make it look under construction but I think I may have made it also look like it's destroyed. Not sure which yet.naturally, there will be some lighting in amongst all this to give it more life.

I've quite enjoying making the base so far and if it goes like what's in my head, then this will be awesome. Maybe even better than the ship? Too early to say but here's where I am at currently:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50581855048_a343d626ca_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4Keg7)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50582711112_7e3829fa4b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4PBJQ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50582589601_e127be57f3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4NZBP)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50582586746_2914afa489_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4NYLA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50582708417_f2e5762cfe_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4PAWn)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50581852348_f1b98fd172_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4Kdsy)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50582586951_aa85ff0a93_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4NYQ8)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50581852498_18dd0b9278_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k4Kdv9)

Well, that's it for now but once I'll update again once I have something worthwhile showing

As always, thanks for stopping by and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on November 09, 2020, 12:43:39 AM
This goes no way towards assuaging my doubts about your mental health...


:o ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on November 09, 2020, 02:00:34 AM
May be an idea to lighten it up a bit, & maybe add some bare metal accents? :unsure:

Otherwise, I'm still in awe. :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on November 09, 2020, 02:48:46 AM
Nup.. out of superlatives.

Your level of effort is exhausting me.. and I am only watching :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 09, 2020, 04:43:49 AM
I say again, 'WHAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!'
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on November 09, 2020, 06:56:38 AM
Quote from: buzzbomb on November 09, 2020, 02:48:46 AM
Nup.. out of superlatives.

Your level of effort is exhausting me.. and I am only watching :o

Sums up my thoughts perfectly  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Gondor on November 09, 2020, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 27, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM

The surface detailing is coming along nicely.

And the winner in this years "Art of Understatement Class" is ...........................  ;) :bow:

The level of detail knocks spots off a lot of cinema and t.v. props. As always I'm simply stunned.

The thing is that the prop builders for films and T.. shows have a limited amount of time where as sykotik can take as long as he likes

Gondor
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on November 10, 2020, 02:56:00 AM
Quote from: Gondor on November 09, 2020, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 27, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM

The surface detailing is coming along nicely.

And the winner in this years "Art of Understatement Class" is ...........................  ;) :bow:

The level of detail knocks spots off a lot of cinema and t.v. props. As always I'm simply stunned.

The thing is that the prop builders for films and T.. shows have a limited amount of time where as sykotik can take as long as he likes

Gondor

Plus, in the days before high definition digital broadcasting it wasn't possible for the average viewer to get a steady, clear freeze frame so the models didn't have to be highly detailed.  They just needed a suggestion of detail and/or surface texture.
Same for props.  Mrs z and I once went to a Star Trek expo in London where they had props and costumes on display.  The Original Series phasers and tricorders were unbelievably crude when seen close up.  Even the cheapest modern toy has more detail.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Rheged on November 10, 2020, 05:02:55 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 10, 2020, 02:56:00 AM
Quote from: Gondor on November 09, 2020, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 27, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM

The surface detailing is coming along nicely.

And the winner in this years "Art of Understatement Class" is ...........................  ;) :bow:

The level of detail knocks spots off a lot of cinema and t.v. props. As always I'm simply stunned.

The thing is that the prop builders for films and T.. shows have a limited amount of time where as sykotik can take as long as he likes

Gondor

Plus, in the days before high definition digital broadcasting it wasn't possible for the average viewer to get a steady, clear freeze frame so the models didn't have to be highly detailed.  They just needed a suggestion of detail and/or surface texture.
Same for props.  Mrs z and I once went to a Star Trek expo in London where they had props and costumes on display.  The Original Series phasers and tricorders were unbelievably crude when seen close up.  Even the cheapest modern toy has more detail.

Madame R and I saw that Star Trek exhibition when it was staged in Edinburgh. Both of us would agree with you that many of the props looked very crude.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Gondor on November 10, 2020, 06:00:42 AM
Quote from: Rheged on November 10, 2020, 05:02:55 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 10, 2020, 02:56:00 AM
Quote from: Gondor on November 09, 2020, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 27, 2020, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on October 26, 2020, 08:43:38 PM

The surface detailing is coming along nicely.

And the winner in this years "Art of Understatement Class" is ...........................  ;) :bow:

The level of detail knocks spots off a lot of cinema and t.v. props. As always I'm simply stunned.

The thing is that the prop builders for films and T.. shows have a limited amount of time where as sykotik can take as long as he likes

Gondor

Plus, in the days before high definition digital broadcasting it wasn't possible for the average viewer to get a steady, clear freeze frame so the models didn't have to be highly detailed.  They just needed a suggestion of detail and/or surface texture.
Same for props.  Mrs z and I once went to a Star Trek expo in London where they had props and costumes on display.  The Original Series phasers and tricorders were unbelievably crude when seen close up.  Even the cheapest modern toy has more detail.

Madame R and I saw that Star Trek exhibition when it was staged in Edinburgh. Both of us would agree with you that many of the props looked very crude.

I went to the same exhibition as well I believe, near to Waverly station on the Castle side. The medical scanning tools that Gr McCoy held and "sensed" his patients with looked as if they were just simple turnings made on a lathe.

Gondor
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 03:25:15 AM
Also, the costumes were so small.  I'm not tall (5' 10") but it seems that a lot of the cast must have been below average height judging by the size of their clothes.

It was a good exhibition though.  We saw stuff that had actually been touched/worn/sat on by Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Bones and most importantly Chekov.  Wow.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 11, 2020, 05:14:16 AM
A woman I know used to run the Star Trek fan club, and was the editor of the club mag.

She's actually WORN some of those uniforms apparently, and she said the same thing as you Fred, they must have been awfully short at the time.  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 15, 2020, 10:48:07 PM
Thought I would show you where I'm heading with this. Got some good basic structure work done and am now working on the larger details before moving in to do the finer stuff. There are some casting holes here and there and will need covering etc which will be done with details. Most of this will unlikely to be seen but it's better to be safe than sorry and have visibly empty spots of nothing

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50608522142_115e0a181c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k76UsA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50608403231_8c7fdc1f77_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k76i7p)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50607657998_74d6e407a6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k72tzy)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50607658103_5b6dd322f0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k72tBn)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50608403871_89d9ab3753_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k76iir)

Anyways, that's it for now, but thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on November 16, 2020, 01:06:02 AM
Ace! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 16, 2020, 03:49:33 AM
The Boggle Factor is now up into the 3-4 MILLIONS!  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on November 16, 2020, 06:29:55 AM
I've run out of superlatives so I'm just watching the progress and awaiting the end result  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on November 16, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Thought I would check out the latest update.

Yep normal awesomeness. :wub:

Moving on now, feeling somewhat inadequate about my own attention to detail skills. ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 25, 2020, 01:08:41 AM
Thanks very much guys! Sorry for the very late reply

I am happy to say that I have added all the detail I'm going to, to the bottom hull plate. I do have some stuff to add to the upper lips where the sidewalls meet the hull but that won't take long. All that's left to add detail  too are the  sidewalls themselves. I won't be going to mental there as the space is pretty short but enough to make it more interesting, and then it'll be the joyous task of adding the fibers.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50644324792_894d0f4d35_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kagpkE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50644237216_8e3d9586d1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kafXiJ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50644324517_8abde6acb8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kagpfV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50644324397_caedfabfd2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kagpdR)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50644236506_67b043729b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kafX6u)

Anyway, that's it for now. I'm still casting pieces for the base and that is taking up a fair whack of time but the ship detailing is nearly finished!

Sorry for the not-so-great pictures, I couldn't be bothered getting the photo tent out etc

thanks as looking!

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on November 25, 2020, 04:09:22 AM
Brother, you are insane but I love the work you do! :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on November 25, 2020, 06:10:36 AM
I keep reminding myself how big this thing is and then I go away muttering  ;) ;D :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 07, 2020, 03:21:34 PM
Quick update while I wait for my work meeting to kick off. I took some pics last night of one of many test fits of the front sidewalls and upper and lower hull plates. I have to keep adding the walls and plates together to make sure the detailing I've added tot he underside of the edge on the top plate and again on the bottom plate don't interfere with the details on the sidewalls etc. Its very time consuming but it'll all look pretty cool once its together.

Excuse the not so great photos. I promise next time they will be clearer


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50692825146_db0c1efb20_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kexYNE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50692825046_d47166ef2f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kexYLW)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50692824946_c63f6eb056_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kexYKd)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50692824826_4e434feaff_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kexYH9)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50692904632_f186c8c579_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2keyor7)

Well, that's all I have for now, but once the front wall is done, I'll take a photo of the kit standard VS what I've done side by side so you can see the difference some extra details can make

Well I have to go back to work but as always, thanks for stopping by and having a look

Till next time!

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on December 07, 2020, 04:23:06 PM
Are you sure you don't work for ILM?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 08, 2020, 12:22:43 AM
Ha - I wish! They're mostly CGI nowadays anyway aren't they? I know the Razor Crest isn't and is likely the exception to the statement but I'd read somewhere that they don't really make models for filming anymore. Hope I'm wrong about that
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on December 08, 2020, 01:41:21 AM
My dream job as a kid was to make models for Thunderbirds et al.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 08, 2020, 03:07:25 AM
I've run out of words for this thread, there just aren't any more that are worth writing...................  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on December 08, 2020, 03:46:23 AM
Georgie-boy would've loved those shots in his movies! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 08, 2020, 07:21:59 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 08, 2020, 03:46:23 AM
Georgie-boy would've loved those shots in his movies! :thumbsup:

To right he would of, magnificent  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on December 08, 2020, 12:50:25 PM
Damned if you do.. damned if you don't.

Paint it that is.
It will look awesome painted at the same time the amount of extra work will be somewhat lost.
However those that know.. will know.

Said it before and will say it again, this is a Masterclass in detailing.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 13, 2020, 10:53:19 PM
thanks very much guys
I took some time today to make use of the awesome daylight we've had here to get some more detailed shots of where I am up to right now. I'll have some more time to myself this week as the wife and child are heading off to see her family before Xmas before I go up to Brisbane to join them later. I hope to be able to use that time constructively

So yeah, the last set of photos didn't really convey what I'd actually done, and here's hoping these ones tell a better story

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717132838_c837ec2016_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgGyCN)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717873126_9513890ff9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgLmGo)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717951012_d6c622c20c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgLKRf)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717873971_1bdfca3a37_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgLmWX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717133513_fc4347c2ae_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgGyQr)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717133043_9c8919a7b6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgGyGk)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717133138_ec525c7185_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgGyHY)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50717133393_4a0cc41769_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kgGyNn)

Well, that's it for now, but as always, thanks for stopping by and having a look

Till next time


Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 14, 2020, 06:22:35 AM
Flaming Ada  :o :o  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on December 14, 2020, 06:33:09 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 14, 2020, 06:22:35 AM
Flaming Ada  :o :o  :bow: :bow:

Yep! ;D :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Rheged on December 14, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 14, 2020, 06:33:09 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 14, 2020, 06:22:35 AM
Flaming Ada  :o :o  :bow: :bow:

Yep! ;D :bow:

I think I can safely say that we are all agreed on that!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on December 14, 2020, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: Rheged on December 14, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 14, 2020, 06:33:09 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 14, 2020, 06:22:35 AM
Flaming Ada  :o :o  :bow: :bow:

Yep! ;D :bow:

I think I can safely say that we are all agreed on that!

So say we all.

Oh hang on.. wrong Sci Fi Franchise :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 15, 2020, 07:37:13 AM
Quote from: buzzbomb on December 14, 2020, 01:24:00 PM

So say we all.

Oh hang on.. wrong Sci Fi Franchise :thumbsup:

;D ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 06, 2021, 08:16:04 PM
Well, it's been a long time since I last updated this and I still don't have an update as such as I am currently building a mojo restoration kit, but my steel strip and metal brackets arrived whilst I was away and after having it in my hands, I am again up in the air about which way to mount this ship.

I am torn between using A) the steel plate and then finding a way to create a connection between it and the ship or; B) using a tube which I'd bend to shape (and if it crushes, grind it all level etc and then use Milliput to reshape the bend).

There are benefits and disadvantages to both methods. The plate would by much more stable because the tube method would also require a support stand up front to prevent the ship from just pitching forward.

Using a tube, I would be limited to just 2 separate power plugs and therefore, less lighting options: 1) the engines and 2) the superstructure.

Whereas using the plate, I'd have more lighting options using 4 power pins:
1) the main engines
2) the sub-light engines
3) the superstructure and
4) the sidewall flood lights.

The biggest issue with the plate is that I am unsure on how to attach said 4 pin plug to the end of the plate as the pins are the exact same size as the plate.

The benefits of the tube is mainly aesthetic as I think it would look smarter and less industrial with a tube. Wires would also be easier to hide. The entry point int the ship would just be a round hole and would require less work to make it happen.

So, a bit of a conundrum really. I would be more than happy to hear anyone's thought's on this. What would you guys do?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on February 07, 2021, 04:27:42 AM
I like the sound of the tube more than the plate, even if it does limit the number of lighting variables.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 07, 2021, 05:09:49 AM
 :thumbsup: In a burst of inspiration I've devised a way to make the strip idea happen. I kind of know how I'd do the tube but I've come up with a great solution to making the strip idea work.
I am now feeling more towards the strip mostly because it offers the most strength and rigidity Im looking for.
I can screw and bolt the armature together and also to the base which would really make it rock solid. 
I'll take some pictures tomorrow of what I have in mind.
In saying all this, I am still drawn to the clean lines of a tube. The only way to make that work as a single tube with none on the front would be a small spring loaded pin but I don't think it'd be strong enough to support the weight of the ship.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Doug K on February 07, 2021, 05:17:38 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 08, 2020, 01:41:21 AM
My dream job as a kid was to make models for Thunderbirds et al.

Mine too, but I couldn't afford to go to the National Film School in Beaconsfield back in '83. It would have been the same class as Nick Park of Wallace & Gromit fame....
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 09, 2021, 10:13:34 PM

Here is where I am with my armature and power connection:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50928373197_6e6f829bdc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kAne2X)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50928246126_09886d2d37_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kAmzg5)


I'm thinking I may rebuild the plug but it works all the same. The bottom bracket will screw into the base for added strength. Once it's all finished, I'll paint it matte black
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 12, 2021, 12:01:45 AM
hey everyone

Dusting this one off to show that I have actually started back on this yet again.
Have begun the fun task of detailing the side walls, starting off with the front. This is pretty much where I left off in the last update but I am now more advanced along. Although it may not look it, a heap of small details have been added to the lips of the 2 hull halves. Whilst they don't look like much on their own, when you add the rest of it together, it fills the spaces nicely.

I'm almost done for the front with only the right side front panel left to do which won't take long. Then naturally I'll make my way down the sides. I also have to add details to the under sides of the top half of the ship which I missed the first time round. I thought i was done detailing the top bit but alas, no

Enough words, here's some pics:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110960111_519731e185_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSv2Lc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110393567_5cc0023104_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSs8mc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51111737805_7d9320b4fc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSz1WH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110393652_f1be35d533_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSs8nE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110959986_bcf21402fe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSv2J3)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110393462_1bbbd8f52f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSs8jo)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51111738650_5c5d6708f4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSz2ch)

I'm often asked for a size reference.Maybe this may help:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110961316_91f524b520_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSv37Y)

Anyway, that's all I have for now but I'll update once I'm fully finished the trenches.

Thanks for stopping by and for those who are actually still following this - you get an extra thanks for your enduring patience with me while I fumble my way through this

Till next time!

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 12, 2021, 05:10:02 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 12, 2021, 12:01:45 AM

I'm often asked for a size reference.Maybe this may help:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110961316_91f524b520_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSv37Y)


WHAAAAATTTTTT????

I thought it was all very awe inspiring before, but seeing how small it is now makes me wonder how the DEVIL you do all that tiny work!

Never has any one of us had a more appropriate ID on here!!!!!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on April 12, 2021, 05:58:33 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 12, 2021, 12:01:45 AM
I'm often asked for a size reference.Maybe this may help:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51110961316_91f524b520_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kSv37Y)

Utter madness.  But you should have painted your hand green (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Who_Mourns_for_Adonais%3F_(episode)#Continuity)  :wacko: :wacko:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on April 12, 2021, 06:29:02 AM
 :o :o :o  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Quote from: scooter on April 12, 2021, 05:58:33 AM

But you should have painted your hand green (https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Who_Mourns_for_Adonais%3F_(episode)#Continuity)  :wacko: :wacko:

;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on April 12, 2021, 08:06:23 AM
I'm always impressed by your detailing, mate, so no change of opinion here. Possibly because I already had a fair to middling idea of how small it was.  ;)

However, your detailing always makes them look much bigger in the photo's. ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 19, 2021, 04:41:59 AM
thank you guys  :thumbsup:

So, I finally got round to finishing off the spot lights up front and thought I'd do a dry fit /light test, and thought I would share my happy results

Yes, I probably should have gone with cool white, but I prefer the look of the warmer white.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51126104735_a9a80edea9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kTQDJp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51125203993_cd35e955f5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kTL2Yn)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51126104805_f801e7774f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kTQDKB)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51126104640_78fd23db5f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kTQDGL)Well, that's it but feel free to share your thoughts - good or bad.

As always, thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on April 19, 2021, 04:43:52 AM
Woo-hoo! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on April 19, 2021, 05:02:20 AM
Fantastic. So much wow in a single model
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on April 19, 2021, 06:29:35 AM
Quote from: buzzbomb on April 19, 2021, 05:02:20 AM
So much wow in a single model

Very neat way of putting it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on April 19, 2021, 06:33:52 AM
I like the warmer white as well, especially if the interior is lit with cool white or brighter.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 21, 2021, 12:40:59 AM
Thanks guys for the kind posts  :thumbsup:
The interior lights will so be warm white and orange but I'm thinking about adding in some cool white lights here and there to break up the mononity of warm white
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 02, 2021, 11:39:29 PM
Hi everyone

Thought I would update this while I have some spare time.

Work continues on the sidewalls with only one wall left on the starboard side and only 2.5 left to do on the other

I am pretty happy with how its coming along.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155334899_c89c13a376_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWqsQK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51154552266_54b68cbe53_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWmsc5)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51153881577_03838e27fd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWi1Pt)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51154551951_1111276ec9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWms6D)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51154783843_96ac7d43b5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWnD2M)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155335139_50b4ba728f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWqsUT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155335139_50b4ba728f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWqsUT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155335194_044c1ecaf5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWqsVQ)

I haven't quite finished the one above but I'm pretty much there

I'll post another update when I have finished the whole side

thanks as always for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 02, 2021, 11:58:48 PM
F_ck that's good! :blink: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 03, 2021, 01:35:30 AM
Only 'pretty' happy?  :-\

I'd be ECSTATIC if I'd produced something like that!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Rheged on May 03, 2021, 02:04:10 AM
This is mind-bogglingly superb. :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 03, 2021, 02:30:13 AM
Thanks guys! Yeah, I guess I kinda undersold how happy I am with it. I sometimes look at it and have to remind myself that I have done that work to it.   :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 03, 2021, 02:58:23 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 02, 2021, 11:58:48 PM
F_ck that's good! :blink: :bow:

Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 03, 2021, 01:35:30 AM
Only 'pretty' happy?  :-\

I'd be ECSTATIC if I'd produced something like that!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

What they said.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 03, 2021, 05:29:25 AM
thank you :)

I had the top on briefly tonight whilst I was marking out where the next load of floodlights were going to go and I added the roof etc just to see how its looking. I am really happy with how it's looking!  :thumbsup:
(just do what I do and look past the current gaps :D )

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51154361732_0c3b17241e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWkty1)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155816534_fecc84d731_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWsW1N)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155816609_275773e69f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWsW36)

I thought it's looking pretty frickin' cool myself. I just took those 3 pics just then as I thought it looked good enough to share. Never mind the extraordinary orange wall behind. I try to forget it myself

thanks again

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 03, 2021, 05:45:23 AM
I should be getting used to this by now, I guess, but ...

(https://i.gifer.com/GdQL.gif)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on May 04, 2021, 04:56:48 AM
Another giant glue bottle owner...

What's wrong with the orange?  Two of the walls in my lounge room are that colour.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on May 05, 2021, 02:41:20 AM
if only I was as clever with GIF's as Guy is ; I would try something similar.

Awesome work, Still, Again, As normal, As expected.

All of the above.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 08, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
thanks guys!  :thumbsup:
The orange walls are just a tad too bright for my taste, Not worried about it as we're knocking the house down and rebuilding  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 09, 2021, 02:20:58 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 08, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
thanks guys!  :thumbsup:
The orange walls are just a tad too bright for my taste, Not worried about it as we're knocking the house down and rebuilding  ;D

Waiting until wood prices drop down to something more reasonable (if they ever do)?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 09, 2021, 07:02:31 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 08, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
thanks guys!  :thumbsup:
The orange walls are just a tad too bright for my taste, Not worried about it as we're knocking the house down and rebuilding  ;D

Tad drastic ? Wouldn't a coat of paint be sufficient ?  ;) :angel:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 09, 2021, 07:03:27 AM
Quote from: scooter on May 09, 2021, 02:20:58 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 08, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
thanks guys!  :thumbsup:
The orange walls are just a tad too bright for my taste, Not worried about it as we're knocking the house down and rebuilding  ;D

Waiting until wood prices drop down to something more reasonable (if they ever do)?

Tell me about it Scoot. I couldn't believe the price I was quoted for something the other week  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 09, 2021, 05:20:41 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on May 09, 2021, 07:02:31 AM

Tad drastic ? Wouldn't a coat of paint be sufficient ?  ;) :angel:

LOL, not knocking it down because of the paint colour   ;D  the new place will be much more toned down
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 22, 2021, 04:03:36 AM
Hi everyone

Time for an update. I have pretty much finished detailing the sidewalls on the starboard side and now just need to do the port side. Once the all of the detailing is done, I'll drill out the windows and then paint them ready for fiber installation.

I am very happy with how its all come out!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195703969_2c7610301f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZZnac)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195994885_0e9ff34ede_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m11RCZ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195142753_3a86da68aa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZWuk4)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195995975_a20d5d07f2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m11RXM)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51194223957_4c7b2faf63_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZRMcK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195704704_512131c74f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZZnnS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195704544_4a5ed26f91_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZZnk7)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195995420_8bd3cb0ce3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m11RNd)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195143228_3c58660f6a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZWutf)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195143148_31fe269938_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZWurS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51194223297_22325473cd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZRM1n)

Anyways, that's it for now, but I will update again once the other side is finished

Thanks for looking in

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Pellson on May 22, 2021, 04:45:17 AM
I really don't know what to say about this. It's too good, really!
You might have stated it, but I've missed it - what scale are you working to?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 22, 2021, 05:47:53 AM
Quote from: Pellson on May 22, 2021, 04:45:17 AM

You might have stated it, but I've missed it - what scale are you working to?

If you page up there's a photo of it with some bits and pieces in the shot (bottle of glue etc) which give you some idea of scale.

Although a lot of us are convinced that the bottle of glue is an especially commissioned movie prop  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 22, 2021, 06:30:32 AM
 :thumbsup: thanks guys
The official scale is 1/2700.
You have no idea how long it takes me to blow that glue  bottle up each time I needto take a reference shot  ;) :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: frank2056 on May 22, 2021, 11:46:15 AM
Amazing work! A typical stormtrooper would be 0.68mm tall in that scale!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 23, 2021, 02:05:51 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 23, 2021, 06:01:06 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 22, 2021, 06:30:32 AM

You have no idea how long it takes me to blow that glue  bottle up each time I needto take a reference shot  ;) :o

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 03, 2021, 10:46:42 PM
Hi Everyone

Well, its been a few months since I last updated this thread with some progress. I hope some interest is still there - understandable if its waned significantly though. It has been a while

However, over the past couple of weeks, I've recommenced work on it and am happy to report that 99% of the detailing is now done. I still need to add a couple of bits here and there to the upper lip of the side trenches and install some flood lights but overall, it's ready to start drilling out the sidewalls for the fibers. I'm going to paint first then add the fibers as I want as close to the surface mating as possible and I won't be able to do that in these fine recessed spaces if I fiber then paint.

I have sighted a couple of spaces that I missed in that rear left wall so I shall remedy that tonight that you probably wouldn't really notice  - but I will

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51549055229_8c3e55c917_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mxdobi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51548567193_0a088c6c96_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mxaT6T)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51548567128_13bfcd0c8e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mxaT5L)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51549054999_8f9b20dc12_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mxdo7k)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51547528637_5f16192fb9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mx5ynK)

I only took a few pics, so that's it for now. All being well, the next update should be the final floodlights and trench details and I daresay the last time you'll see it with no paint on
As always, thanks for stopping by and having a look and sorry again for the delay in progress

Si


Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on October 04, 2021, 06:21:29 AM
No need to apologise. I'm still gobsmacked over this level  of detail  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 04, 2021, 07:16:07 AM
HE's BACK! Woo-hoo! ;D ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on October 04, 2021, 03:37:57 PM
More... Everything is awesome  :wub:

Did you clean all out he LHS of their Skywave 1/700 Naval Accessories kits? So many torpedo tube banks, radar bits and bobs and they look so good as greeblies.


Personally, the repulsively neat wiring and clever connections are a wonder of order and calm.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 04, 2021, 06:35:00 PM
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:
@ Brian - LOL! Yeah, Hobby Link Japan may have a few less sets available coz of this project  :wacko:
I need to tidy the wiring up actually and I'm currently revising the power distribution set up to make it more user friendly
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 07, 2021, 10:51:53 PM
I had some free time this afternoon so I took a picture of the rook panels under the black base coat. Excuse the dust that seems to have settled on all of the pieces. I have no idea when or how it got there but the damp brush will be coming out after I've finished posting to clean them all up before the first splash of grey goes on

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51563062752_ddf314fd30_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mysb8j)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51563853946_86da2ddb5a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mywejA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51564543074_ae48b244b4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2myzLb7)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51564543044_ce8268bda0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2myzLaA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51564100278_40c81cfc46_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2myxuxG)

Anyways, that's it for now but thanks for stopping in and having a look
Til next time
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on October 08, 2021, 06:25:22 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 09, 2021, 03:41:20 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 08, 2021, 06:25:22 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

+1  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 13, 2021, 10:05:19 PM
Hey everyone

Some people have been wondering what kind of approach I'll be taking to painting, so for those who wanted to know, I took a couple of pics which should help answer it. I'm going to spare everyone the boredom of taking shots at every stage and just show you the first one. You'll get the idea from that. Needless to say, the painting process might take longer than first thought.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51587284609_7e78d27d3c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAAjrx)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51586852463_2dd1360f17_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAy6YK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51585791727_5bc68767f1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAsEEc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51585791212_f8e25fe7c4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAsEvj)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51587284079_1824a74e0b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAAjhp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51586851043_380b208658_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAy6yg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51587283294_72663b372c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mAAj3S)

As this is as exciting as it gets, the next update should see these panels finished - or very close to it. It's going to be a lot of fine masking which I hope actually works. These photos also help me to remember where I placed all the masks.....

As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 13, 2021, 11:32:15 PM
So, micro-scale digital camo on a macro-scale model! :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 14, 2021, 05:25:38 PM
LOL, not quite. More a kind of light Aztec. Once all of the masks have come off, if they are too stark, I'll shoot them with a light base colour filter. It'll look better with the appropriate washes and panel line enhancments
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 14, 2021, 07:04:29 PM
So, Star Trek meets Star Wars! ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 14, 2021, 10:17:36 PM
LOL, maybe   ;D most SDs have enhanced selected panels, so technically not ground breaking stuff here
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 17, 2021, 11:28:50 PM
Well, the experimental masking is done and the results are here. There are some panels which require a paint touch up because - as feared - the paint was too thin for the masks and ran under them in places. Lifted the paint off in others.

Over all though, I am pleased with how its turned out. I'm still debating whether or not to run a very thin filter coat over the whole area to tone down the enhanced panels.

I still have small detail painting, washed and dry brushing yet to go, so the look will change even more but what do you guys think? Should I leave them like they are or run a filter over the top?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51602336065_48b2df14d2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBVsHp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51602103899_a6ddd5f039_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBUgGx)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51602104459_018063012a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBUgSc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51600625402_cf1431efc3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBLGcd)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51602335710_bee58ef31b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBVsBh)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51602335865_c35444831a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBVsDX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51601450111_bee4eae02a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBQVmk)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51602335535_28139f34fc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mBVsyg)

Those longer roof panels are on back to front, so ignore those and yes, I did see the tape I left behind which has since been removed :)


As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look


Till next time
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 18, 2021, 12:56:30 AM
I have no feel for how large an object we're looking at here, it could be 2" long or 2 yards!

How long, top to bottom, is the part in your first painted pic please?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 18, 2021, 07:12:08 AM
Ooh! Difficult questions! :blink:

I think I'd be inclined to leave them as is, the washes & dry brushing should tone them down a bit, anyway ... Maybe? :unsure:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on October 18, 2021, 02:08:11 PM
More marvellousocity  :thumbsup:

It will be worth the effort. A comment from Digital camo experience. You will still be finding bits of tape that have not been removed for many, many months after.

The effort expended will more than pay off when the effect works so well. Really looking forward to the unveiling.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on October 18, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 18, 2021, 12:56:30 AM
I have no feel for how large an object we're looking at here, it could be 2" long or 2 yards!

How long, top to bottom, is the part in your first painted pic please?

IIRC, it's Zvezda's 1/2700th (someone correct me if I'm wrong).  So some of those panels are a couple to several inches long
(https://www.scalemates.com/albums/img/6/6/0/363660-32579-63-1440.jpg)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 18, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 18, 2021, 12:56:30 AM
I have no feel for how large an object we're looking at here, it could be 2" long or 2 yards!

How long, top to bottom, is the part in your first painted pic please?

Hi Kit
The main roof panel in the first pic is a little over 15cm long and 10cm wide

Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. The general consensus is to apply a filter over it which is exactly what I will do, even though I actually quite like the contrasting colours. I'll save that effect for another ship
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 19, 2021, 12:32:22 AM
Ye Gods!  :o :o

So you've found the world's only 1/4 bristle brush to paint some of those panels then?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 21, 2021, 09:51:07 PM
LOL - not quite  ;D

the effect is a lot more subtle in the plastic than in this photo
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51617403559_efacf999b5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mDfFKM)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on October 22, 2021, 07:50:50 AM
I preferred the less subdued version, myself. :-\
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on October 22, 2021, 03:59:42 PM
If I'm honest,  so did I but the more I look at it the more comfortable I become with that choice. Once I've done the wash, dry brush and penciled in some panel lines, I think it'll look more natural. I've been looking up pics of star destroyer weathering to get a better idea of what to do.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on October 22, 2021, 09:26:14 PM
Still loving everything you are doing here. :wub:

For what it is worth, I prefer what you are doing to bring life to this model

Here are some pix I took of one of the Star Wars Prop models, when the Star Wars Props toured Sydney, apparently in 2009 according to my photo Metadata.
(https://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/misc/StarDestroyerProp_1.JPG) (https://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/misc/StarDestroyerProp_2.JPG)
(https://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/misc/StarDestroyerProp_3.JPG) (https://www.modelblokez.org.au/bthpix/misc/StarDestroyerProp_4.JPG)
Rather boring monotone.. hence why I like what you are doing.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 13, 2021, 09:50:31 PM
Hi all

Well, I have finally sorted out my last remaining hurdle and it's onto the final stretch - more or less. Yep, I have finally sorted out my mounting device and at long last, I will be able to slip the ship on and off it's mount (I'm not sure how many times I would want to but for transportation this will be invaluable)

all I have to do is attach the sleeve onto the bottom of the ship and we're good to go. I've got it so I have 4 separate power lines which I will be able to distribute to hangar bay lights, engines, superstructure and floodlights.

It's by no means pretty but it works which is more important. The wires will travel down the back side of the armature into the base. Once I have the last bit of wire covered, I'll paint it all black


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51677135902_0149459ec3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mJwQ6L)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51677135677_88efbb16a4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mJwQ2T)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51678821680_5d511962f2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mJFtdU)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51677942586_e6c1cec3a9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mJAXU7)

As I said, not the prettiest stuff ever but I had to make do with what I had

Anyway, that's it for now.

As always, thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on November 13, 2021, 09:55:16 PM
Clever b@stard! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on November 14, 2021, 10:37:18 PM
Practicality will trump prettiness anytime for me.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 15, 2021, 12:49:32 AM
LOL, thanks guys
I had to add a couple of support posts behind the plug and against the edge of the bar to add extra support
But yeah, I cemented the port onto the bottom of the ship today and that'll set now for a couple of weeks. It won't be coming off anytime soon, at least, I'm praying like mad to the modelling deities that it will  :thumbsup:
I'm back now working on the base trying to get that sorted out. This build is never ending.... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 18, 2022, 12:36:32 AM
wow - it has been a while hasn't it? Hi all, and thanks for stopping in. First of, sorry for the really long delay in doing anything to it until recently. RL has interfered a lot as have other projects blah blah. We all know the reasons why etc that things go on hold but, I do have an update that's worth showing

So, I am unable to paint anything ATM due to weather and other such stuff like getting ready to move up north to Brisbane at the end of the year, plus a reno and as such, that limited my options. But I have been chomping at the bit to get restarted on just something to do with this build as its just dragging on and on (rather my my words) so I thought I would continue on with the base.

And I must say, so far, I am super happy with it. It's coming out way better than I had hoped so far! I am almost finished the edging on the top plate as you'll see in a sec and the shape of it is working perfectly. I will need to cast another 2 or 3 plates and some more of the original plating for the bottom and mid tiers, but that won't take too long

So, first up, the top plate as it is now:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52223859728_c7bebda10b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyQW3C)

The advantages of using resin is you can sand it super thin and then remove excess bits with a sharp knife to create new shapes

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52223842216_1b23d5a1d9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyQQQG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52222840572_d42a344640_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyKH5Y)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52222840502_891005bd96_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyKH4L)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52224112689_0fdc6f3bb5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nySef2)

And the bottom plate has also had some treatment started to it. There is HEAPS more to do of course

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52224112344_71f2465336_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nySe95)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52223841896_894f8f7fe1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyQQKb)

And combined, it starts to take shape. There is a tier to go in between them but not there just yet

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52224332135_d9e4a0beda_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyTmtz)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52222840127_d902eda2d8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyKGXi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52223859163_027e1c55ac_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyQVST)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52223859263_b9bbe2ce5f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyQVUB)

Well, that's it now for the next 3 months.... nah, just kidding. It's 7 if you're lucky

Hopefully the next update will come sooner rather than later.

Thanks for any continued interest

Till then!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 18, 2022, 03:19:25 AM
Has been a while. I've been getting quietly impatient. :angry:


Nah, not really. ;D

Brilliant work there, Si! Absolutely brilliant! :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 18, 2022, 05:39:42 AM
We just don't have enough  :o :o :o's to describe this properly.

Absolutely amazing work  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 18, 2022, 05:49:20 AM
My brain's still coming down from orbit after looking at that lot.  :o :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 19, 2022, 02:18:00 AM
thanks guys - appreciate you still looking in on it  :thumbsup:
All the edging for the top plate is done and I'm now enjoying the task of filling in gaps between the tiles - so much fun. Once that's done - hopefully by tonight, I can really start to enjoy adding more detailing to it.
I must confess, super detailing something is the most enjoyable part of building a scifi subject and, right now, it feels super good to be able to do some more again
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on July 20, 2022, 03:12:35 AM
Still all worth the wait...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 26, 2022, 11:39:01 PM
Hi all

Quick update

The edging is all done and putty applied. Still a couple of spots to clean up but nothing dramatic.

I've started to add some more detailing to the surface, with some gun batteries which i thought could be quite cool. I'm not trying to replicate the DS or its surface to its filming parents, so the relevancy of their existence is mute. Looking at them, I do need to change the shape slightly to mask their origins though. Just on the bottom front corners I think

I'm looking at making some kind of central building structure, like a control center of sorts, again, just to break up the surface more. Not too high, but high enough. I've been furiously rummaging through the spares box looking for something suitable but nothing is matching my idea, so I think it'll have to be scratch built.


Anyways, enough words

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52244307568_9f0f4f147a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nADJtA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52244293136_f270362c9d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nADEbL)

I just started the detailing, but you get the idea of where its going

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52244787025_2bc6b2656e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nAGc16)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52244307738_ecedf187ca_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nADJww)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52244786755_b13feba5db_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nAGbVr)

That's all for now, but open to ideas, suggestions or constructive critique

Cheers
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 27, 2022, 05:55:38 AM
 :blink: :blink: :blink: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 27, 2022, 07:24:42 AM
"Keep doing what you're doing!" that's my suggestion! You're going great guns! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 07, 2022, 11:42:27 PM
thanks guys
Hi again all

For the past 2 weeks (well, more like 6 days when combined) I have been working away on the top plate. I decided to make something to go on top as I feel it needs more visual interest. Yeah, I know its the DS tiles I'm using but I don't really want this to BE the Death Star - more, my own interpretation. I wouldn't go calling my display a battle-station. Probably more a mechanical planet :)

It's far from being finished - I still have heaps to do, but before I really get lost in this and put more energy into it, I thought l'd just get a general gauge if this is a good idea or not

It's basically superstructure parts from my ill-fated Bismark and other bits and bobs. My favorite bit is the landing platforms

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271098348_65dcf3fa52_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD23rA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271077156_75b1b55f5f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD1W9d)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52270112117_a41f08632e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nCVZgB)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271570390_3a13435146_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD4sLf)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271077491_40494bfdb6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD1WeZ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271077596_0741387133_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD1WgN)

this is where Im thinking of putting it

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52270183327_f8752ff730_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nCWmrn)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271147496_1faf7cecbd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD2i3Y)

If all else fails, it could always be a new hull part of a space ship

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52271640810_3ef6aee3f2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nD4PGo)

Well, that's it for now, but feel free to let me know what you think.

As always, thanks for stopping by and having a look
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 08, 2022, 08:22:09 AM
With the greebling effort that you put in, mate, it'll look awesome.

I think it'll add a touch of variation to the base & will give a rough sense of scale to the SD.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2022, 09:01:59 AM
I see you've got one of those over size Tamiya cement pots too...........  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 09, 2022, 12:07:31 AM
thanks fellas
Not quite sure what to do with the upside down shield generator base though. Probably should have thought more about its function first before choosing it for it's form. Im thinking either an exhaust port or add some brass tube to the outer ring of poles to be level with the center and then create some kind of platform for a comms unit or weapon system, but that would require a significant amount of research and I don't think I'm up for that. I am open to ideas  :angel:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 09, 2022, 06:34:25 AM
I'd leave that piece as is, whilst greebling the rest as per usual, & leave it sitting there, being quietly enigmatic in its clean lines & simplicity of form. ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on August 09, 2022, 06:36:19 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 09, 2022, 06:34:25 AM
I'd leave that piece as is, whilst greebling the rest as per usual, & leave it sitting there, being quietly enigmatic in its clean lines & simplicity of form. ;D :thumbsup:

What the Marsupial said.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 09, 2022, 07:19:59 PM
I found this tower like structure last night in the box of spares and immediately thought this would be a cool addition:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52276053260_084b7ba58c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nDsrn7)


Also found in amongst stuff I fully forgot I had, was this little gem (the big bit in the center).


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52275831579_2c3cf85db9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nDrit2)


I layed out a few parts just to get some kind of structure going. Obviously, its just a base, but what do you think? Should I use it as well or just stick to the one building? Is it a bit to 'Ol factory" in it's appearance or would it pass in the world of SW?

One thing that I've noticed or thought about is the rest of the tile details. Is it too much with another building? Are these buildings out of scale with the rest of it? I don't think so, but I am doubting my scaling abilities lately, so I thought 'd see if I can get some honest, constructive feedback.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Snowtrooper on August 10, 2022, 02:24:48 AM
The structure looks very Star Wars-y and not at all out of scale. In my opinion, SW aesthetics does have the occasional megastructure jutting out of the landscape, so you don't need to worry having something "out of scale". Whether the base is supposed to represent the Death Star or another structure, there's bound to be some huge buildings around.

The base is large enough that another building won't make it too busy either, there's room to add even more if you so wish.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 10, 2022, 04:22:21 AM
I think that what it needs is what at first glance appears to be just another small rectangular piece of random detail but which on closer inspection is a shed.

:mellow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 10, 2022, 05:07:38 AM
A wooden shed?  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on August 10, 2022, 05:30:08 AM
Tin.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 10, 2022, 05:40:41 AM
Having just gone back & looked at the base: I think you could get away with up to four similarly sized structures without any issues but, maybe, keeping it down to two or three would look better & less crowded.

Scale comes from your greebling, as long as the greebles are right the structures should look fine. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 06:19:01 AM
how about from this angle?:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52276376421_507566f116_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nDu6qR)

I reckon your right Guy, but I don't have enough suitable parts left over for a third one. I don't want to over do it. It's already moved way further past what I thought I'd be doing. It seems like its turning into more of a diorama than just a display base. Wonder what category I'd enter this into at an Expo?
As for the greeblies, yeah, I keep having to cast parts but I am going through the plastic bits very quickly. I'm replying heavily on plastic strips and square rod for the smaller details and I will be laying down some more brass pipes. Definitely not the Death Star anymore is it. It's more like a mechanical-industrial planet.  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 10, 2022, 06:35:31 AM
That looks great! :thumbsup:

Although, maybe, moving the structure in the right hand side of the image a bit forward, towards the camera, would balance it out a bit? :unsure:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 10, 2022, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 06:19:01 AM
Definitely not the Death Star anymore is it. It's more like a mechanical-industrial planet.  ;D

Yup, or maybe a mining spacecraft. One that travels the galaxy, lands on a planet, mines/sucks it dry and then moves on ? Where's Will Smith when you need him  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 07:22:32 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 10, 2022, 06:35:31 AM
That looks great! :thumbsup:

Although, maybe, moving the structure in the right hand side of the image a bit forward, towards the camera, would balance it out a bit? :unsure:

Gottcha, good idea. I'll play around with the position more in the next few days

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 10, 2022, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 06:19:01 AM
Definitely not the Death Star anymore is it. It's more like a mechanical-industrial planet.  ;D

Yup, or maybe a mining spacecraft. One that travels the galaxy, lands on a planet, mines/sucks it dry and then moves on ? Where's Will Smith when you need him  ;)

Trying to win back fans I dare say  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 09:25:55 PM
A major distraction arrived on my door step today


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52278305570_4da70e3d6c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nDDYU3)


Must resist the urge to start.....
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 10, 2022, 09:54:14 PM
Yes, you must! :angry:


Besides, what's with that big detachable lump on top of it? :unsure:

That's going to throw out its thrust axis of symmetry something awful! :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Flyer on August 10, 2022, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 10, 2022, 09:54:14 PM
Besides, what's with that big detachable lump on top of it? :unsure:

That's going to throw out its thrust axis of symmetry something awful! :o

Makes it look like some sort of futuristic airbrush... :unsure:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 10:29:22 PM
LMAO!! I will resist don't worry.  :thumbsup:
I personally really love this ship. You do have to ask what drugs the guy who looked at his airbrush and said to himself "that looks like a cool starship" was on though. I want some....
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 10, 2022, 11:22:09 PM
It didn't click but that's exactly what it is! ;D ;D ;D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 11, 2022, 12:59:16 AM
It's even got the button to press on the top.  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on August 11, 2022, 05:45:30 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 11, 2022, 12:59:16 AM
It's even got the button to press on the top.  ;D

Along with the connection to the compressor and spray adjustment.

Quote from: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 10:29:22 PM
LMAO!! I will resist don't worry.  :thumbsup:
I personally really love this ship. You do have to ask what drugs the guy who looked at his airbrush and said to himself "that looks like a cool starship" was on though. I want some....

I'm thinking the really heavy ones that certain three letter agencies were testing out in the 60s
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 11, 2022, 05:48:48 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 07:22:32 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 10, 2022, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on August 10, 2022, 06:19:01 AM
Definitely not the Death Star anymore is it. It's more like a mechanical-industrial planet.  ;D

Yup, or maybe a mining spacecraft. One that travels the galaxy, lands on a planet, mines/sucks it dry and then moves on ? Where's Will Smith when you need him  ;)

Trying to win back fans I dare say  ;D


Yup  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 05:05:15 AM
hey again

Got one building done and primed and have started on the second one. I'm hoping to have the first one painted by the weekend. I have already drilled out the holes where the fibers will be going. I lost count after 50 and 8 drill bits later

The good news is it won't require a lot big lengths of fiber. I am contemplating sticking in just little bits of fiber and flood lighting the entire inside but I am not sure I can get much light through the top sections. They'd require longer lengths I think. Also, there would not be enough room to angle an LED bright enough to fill the space... unless I used SMD strip?

Enough pondering, here are the pics. I used my phone and not my proper camera coz I can't be faffed getting it all set up

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287015666_0d4c95e6ae_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEqC77)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287500055_f156dab7cc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEt76D)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287500085_e9072fc069_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEt77a)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52286036032_b41b583446_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEkATS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287020223_cb20b21df1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEqDsF)

In black primer with a very light white primer highlight coat brings it all together nicely

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52286126822_fea58fbc04_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEm4Td)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287371134_a38106aac3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEsrLS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287371104_4ce61b02f1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEsrLm)

And together with the new building. I drilled out some vents on the side of the tower and I'll stick in some strips of clear sanded styrene to cover the openings from the inside. With a red LED shining up from the bottom it'll look pretty cool with the sanded styrene diffusing the light nicely. At least - that's the plan

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287015531_6536eaced4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEqC4M)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287279939_da7873648b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nErYEx)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287499990_9c42aa53a1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEt75w)

and lastly, the new position of both on the surface:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52286035817_5d47e2d005_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEkAQa)

Well, I think I have bored you all enough, but as always, please feel free to critique or suggest anything that could be improved. Like, share, subscribe... LOL

I watch way too much Youtube!

Thanks for looking
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Captain Canada on August 15, 2022, 05:23:25 AM
This is incredible ! Cheers
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 15, 2022, 05:34:05 AM
Quote from: Captain Canada on August 15, 2022, 05:23:25 AM
This is incredible !

You can say that again  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 15, 2022, 06:22:35 AM
So the squares on the cutting mat are 1 cm square, are they?

That just makes it even more AWESOME!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 15, 2022, 09:06:01 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 15, 2022, 06:22:35 AM
So the squares on the cutting mat are 1 cm square, are they?

1/2 inch, I reckon, Kit, but close enough for Government work.


Quote from: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 05:05:15 AM
The good news is it won't require a lot big lengths of fiber. I am contemplating sticking in just little bits of fiber and flood lighting the entire inside but I am not sure I can get much light through the top sections. They'd require longer lengths I think. Also, there would not be enough room to angle an LED bright enough to fill the space... unless I used SMD strip?

Si, asking me about model lighting is like asking a monkey about particle physics. :blink:

Quote from: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 05:05:15 AM
Well, I think I have bored you all enough, but as always, please feel free to critique or suggest anything that could be improved. Like, share, subscribe... LOL

Never bored with your posts, mate! :thumbsup:

Quote from: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 05:05:15 AM
I watch way too much Youtube!

You ain't Robinson Crusoe there, old son! :rolleyes:

Quote from: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 05:05:15 AM
Thanks for looking

Always a pleasure! Thank you for posting! :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Thankyou for the kind posts everyone
Kit, you're right, those squares are 1cm

I'll be posting a couple of "bonus"  pics shortly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 15, 2022, 04:27:56 PM
 Quick couple of extra shots showing how high the SD sits above the base:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52287716390_e6c619b7bf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEudpy)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52286252372_315922ed5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEmHcS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52286253022_d88f9069a0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEmHp5)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: DogfighterZen on August 15, 2022, 06:49:58 PM
I can't believe that i've only seen this build now... Excellent work on everything! :bow: :bow:
I haven't read everything yet but i will have to go back to the beginning and go through all the other 23 pages of this when i have more time. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2022, 03:30:59 AM
Prepare to be TOTALLY boggled!!!  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: DogfighterZen on August 16, 2022, 05:35:43 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2022, 03:30:59 AM
Prepare to be TOTALLY boggled!!!  :o

Oh, i already am, Kit.   :thumbsup:
All it took was the first page and pics, and my jaw was on the floor. Much respect for his skills!  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 16, 2022, 06:22:25 AM
Thank you both for your kind posts - you're being way too kind, but I appreciate it none the less  :thumbsup:
I know I've already posted a fair bit over the past couple of days but I thought I'd share my successful lighting in the one part I had strong doubts about getting lit.

The part itself is only 8mm x 5mm x 4mm and there was no way I was going to be able to thread nearly 20 fibers through it, so I went with the flood light method which is cutting off 4mm pieces of single strand fiber and sticking and gluing them just 1mm into the wall and then sealing off the bottom with a strip of styrene (that has some al-foil stuck to the bottom to better reflect the light up).

Inside the rear of the wall. I stuck a 2mm SMD upright through another small strip of styrene and then glued that onto the roof.

Hopefully the pictures will explain better than what I can in words

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52289950994_d35f4d1194_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEFEFd)

(sorry for the slightly blurry image there - I was struggling to get the phone to focus)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52290171420_4de8c3829b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEGNcE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52289688063_637a5a3523_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEEjvV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52289688068_9f2b497753_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEEjw1)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52288709192_14b11a40b8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nEziwQ)

I've already fixed that light leak but I kinda wish I hadn't as I like that floodlit area. Maybe once its been painted black again I can chip a bit out and let that spread. We'll see how much light is left leaking soon enough.

Anyway, I was pretty happy with this

Thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 16, 2022, 06:26:03 AM
 :o :o :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 16, 2022, 06:29:32 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 15, 2022, 09:06:01 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 15, 2022, 06:22:35 AM
So the squares on the cutting mat are 1 cm square, are they?

1/2 inch, I reckon, Kit, but close enough for Government work.


Oh yeah, that reminds me: You were absolutely right there Guy, I was completely wrong. They're 12mm square squares. My bad
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Snowtrooper on August 16, 2022, 06:31:23 AM
Seeing how high the STD will fly, and comparing its size to the base, I would say you could still fit a plethora of much larger buildings on the base (should you feel like it) and it still wouldn't feel too busy. The current buildings you have are rather "normal" scale, not even scifi-absurdity scale, and even the latter (ie. reaching up to a significant portion of the STD flight level) would still fit.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 30, 2022, 01:02:38 AM
thank you for your input there Snowtrooper. Sorry I'm so late in replying. No excuse
I have been busy with this and have got some colour on it. I only have to fit the nose section and then I can paint the rest of the top half and then of course the bottom.
I have found the best colour match to the screen SD's in Gunze paints - in particular their Gundam paint. I'll look the # up if anyone cares enough to ask, but its the right shade (well, to my eyes anyway) to what they're meant to be.
The first building is base painted as well, but I haven't taken any pics yet as there is more I want to do before then.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52320510077_7aa1a1df70_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHohPX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52321623078_e90ab409dc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHtZFC)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52321752785_3f041b056a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHuEeX)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52321312651_db821f36da_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHsppr)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52321312126_5f956c7851_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHspfo)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52320509932_629297f1c9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHohMs)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52303163731_d1040b597b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nFRon2)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52302183887_f20b04d9e7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nFLn6a)

Well, that's it for now. I'll glue the nose on tonight and get the top half ready for painting. I'm fine with the black basing, it's the hours of tedious, repetitive masking I'm not looking forward too
Anyway, as always, thanks for stopping in and looking
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: su27rules on August 30, 2022, 03:17:27 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on August 30, 2022, 03:58:18 AM
I still have major difficulty in figuring out how big/small that is.

That must be one ENORMOUS bottle of Tamiya cement you have there, maybe a gallon or two?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 30, 2022, 06:00:45 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 30, 2022, 03:58:18 AMI still have major difficulty in figuring out how big/small that is.

That must be one ENORMOUS bottle of Tamiya cement you have there, maybe a gallon or two?

 ;D  ;D

Thanks for posting the image with that bottle I now have an idea of it's size and am  :o . Fantastic job  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 30, 2022, 08:53:43 AM
I'm just grateful you post your progress pictures because, although this level of patience is beyond me, I am in awe of the skills & abilities you display on such tiny objects! :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 30, 2022, 06:20:27 PM
thanks guys! The feedback makes it worth taking the pictures. I have stopped posting on one forum because its like talking to myself  :banghead:

Here she is in black

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52321165237_6ca073b8b1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nHrDzP)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 31, 2022, 06:06:09 AM
Looking good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 31, 2022, 09:10:55 AM


 :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: The Chaos on September 05, 2022, 05:44:00 AM
Looks so great.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 26, 2022, 04:09:16 AM
4 hours straight masking and this is all I have to show for that time with another 3 colours and masking to go

https://flic.kr/p/2nNWofq
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on September 26, 2022, 05:55:27 AM
But progress is still progress  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on September 26, 2022, 07:07:34 AM
That, sir, is because perfection takes time & effort, which you are obviously more adept at applying than I am. ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on September 26, 2022, 07:22:58 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 26, 2022, 07:07:34 AMThat, sir, is because perfection takes time & effort, which you are obviously more adept at applying than I am. ;D  :thumbsup:

And patience.  I might have thrown it on to the shelf o'doom (or against the wall) at this point t
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 26, 2022, 10:38:44 PM
LOL , I can assure you,  this has been sidelined a couple of times over the last 4 years, but my OCD compels me to keep going! I do believe that it'll look awesome once done though, which is the main reason I keep at it. No one else will have anything like this, thats for sure  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 27, 2022, 01:01:40 AM
You now hold the world record for cutting out the smallest possible piece of masking tape!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on September 27, 2022, 02:36:50 AM
LOL!!!!  Maybe. The thinnest I could cut would be about 1/4mm in width. Any less than that and the paint will leak under it, or I'll loose it. That's why I take heaps of photos after each session so I can remember where the heck they are.
The best tool I have discovered for assisting in bedding down the tape is a silicone "pen". So useful!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Dr. Griffin on October 09, 2022, 11:20:40 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 29, 2022, 05:07:59 AM
Well, I see I have forgotten to update this thread but a fair amount has happened since the black was laid down. That and the dark gray panels have been masked and now for the next and final shade of gray before the base coat goes down. I'm noticing that some of the paint is lifting which is not a good sign. This may end up being a total waste of time. We shall see

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52531586499_93e69c3f0a_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o337uB)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52530830592_9f8a0403e9_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o2YeMJ)

Well, that's where she's at. Still a long way to go yet, but I'm getting somewhere
Thanks for your patience and indulging me with this never ending build (4 years now!)

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 29, 2022, 05:37:44 AM
How EVER long did it take to cut out all those zillions of bits of masking tape?  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on November 29, 2022, 05:39:22 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on November 29, 2022, 05:07:59 AMI'm noticing that some of the paint is lifting which is not a good sign. This may end up being a total waste of time. We shall see


I really, really hope not
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on November 29, 2022, 06:39:53 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 29, 2022, 05:37:44 AMHow EVER long did it take to cut out all those zillions of bits of masking tape?  :o

Very patiently?

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 29, 2022, 05:39:22 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on November 29, 2022, 05:07:59 AMI'm noticing that some of the paint is lifting which is not a good sign. This may end up being a total waste of time. We shall see


I really, really hope not

What he said
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on November 29, 2022, 07:22:12 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 29, 2022, 05:39:22 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on November 29, 2022, 05:07:59 AMI'm noticing that some of the paint is lifting which is not a good sign. This may end up being a total waste of time. We shall see

I really, really hope not

Same here!


I've been happily watching & waiting & watching & waiting .... & waiting ... & waiting & watching for the entire 4 years, can't be having it f___ up on us now! :blink:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on November 29, 2022, 01:23:14 PM
I hope not either but sadly, there must have been some kind of contaminant on the surface when I laid down the black primer. I thought I had cleaned it enough but obviously not.   :banghead:
Kit, if I were to add all of the time spent on masking together, I would say roughly 8 hours straight so far (I down sized that figure too  - it could be more)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 29, 2022, 02:14:39 PM
I'd have been in the loony bin after doing that much masking!  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 04, 2022, 04:44:17 PM
 Well, the moment of truth is here and she has been unmasked. As feared, there is some paint lift but its fixable where needed. 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52543394919_3491f378fb_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o45CJ4)

 Next pics will be the final base coat to bring it all down a notch or 4
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on December 04, 2022, 07:12:08 PM
That's almost as insane as masking digi-cam! :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 10:13:24 PM
It IS digi-cam, isn't it?

In a sort of interspatial way anyway.

It looks superb!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 05, 2022, 05:33:55 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 10:13:24 PMIt looks superb!  :thumbsup:

It does indeed
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on December 05, 2022, 05:37:14 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 04, 2022, 10:13:24 PMIt IS digi-cam, isn't it?
...
It looks superb!  :thumbsup:

I think he's going for the "aztec" pattern of various hull plates that got introduced on the refitted Enterprise in The Motion Picture.

Agreed, superb work. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 05, 2022, 01:41:30 PM
Thanks guys - yes it is aztecing (the technique was introduced but not limited to Star Trek)
I will put some updated pics up later this afternoon, but I just want to say firstly that it was a huge success in my books! I couldn't be happier with the results  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 05, 2022, 05:40:56 PM
Well, so far so good. I need to add some more filter to the roof panels which I will do over the next day or so to bring them into line with the main body.

I'll let you be the judge on whether or not the masking was worth it

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52546187178_df552863c7_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o4jWLs)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52546121080_b21cf08259_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o4jB7Q)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52545936104_5a4fd722d3_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o4iE8A)

Obviously, there is still a clear coat and wash to go but yeah, am happy with how its looking
Now to do the bottom part!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on December 05, 2022, 06:06:31 PM
Should we have the men with the clean white jackets standing by?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on December 06, 2022, 05:50:24 AM
Very subtle, just right  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on December 11, 2022, 07:38:12 AM
Very much worth the effort! :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on December 11, 2022, 01:40:04 PM
Another one of your builds, where painting it covers up all the excellent scratch work.

Really, really nice work
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on December 13, 2022, 05:27:39 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence fellas  :thumbsup:
Ive tined the roof down more to get it inline with the rest of the ship
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 21, 2023, 02:44:44 AM
Sing it with me: "ooh oh, we're half way there...."

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52761870125_0830fb9e3e_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ooonMX)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on March 21, 2023, 02:50:54 AM
Suddenly, I'm very happy! ;D  ;D  ;D


"Woh-oh, we're half way there...." [sung loud & badly off key :wacko: ]
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on March 21, 2023, 03:12:06 AM
Seen on an A3 cutting mat it's smaller than I thought.
Makes your work even more impressive.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 21, 2023, 05:03:55 AM
Thanks fellas. Glad it made somone happy :)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on March 21, 2023, 06:03:38 AM
Incredible  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on March 21, 2023, 11:41:11 PM
Ummm does the word WOW!! seem appropriate??
I know I wear glasses to build these things but bloody hell I'd need to wear 2 Paris at once to build something that small ..brilliant brilliant stuff Simon..love it mate  ;D  :thumbsup:  :wub:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 22, 2023, 02:22:12 AM
thank you very much!  :thumbsup:
I'm over half way done on the other side and almost ready for the first shade of gray to go down. All being well, she should be finished with painting in the next week or so. I'm aiming to have her done for Expo this year but TBH, it's probably going to be more like next year  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on March 22, 2023, 02:34:05 AM
Targets are all well & good but keep them flexible, you don't want to stress out over them & ruin the experience of the build! :thumbsup:

There's always the SA Scale Model Expo in October, if you miss the Melbourne event. ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 22, 2023, 04:37:17 AM
Mate, im already sweating about how I'd get it to Melbourne expo. I have no idea how I'd get it to SA.
I am currently in the zone to get it progressed much more, so I want to capitalise on it whilst I can.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on March 22, 2023, 04:46:11 AM
Large plastic storage box from Bunnings lined with foam from Clark Rubber.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on March 22, 2023, 07:35:50 AM
Quote from: zenrat on March 22, 2023, 04:46:11 AMLarge plastic storage box from Bunnings lined with foam from Clark Rubber.

I mean it [ibis[/i] mostly triangles, so that makes shaping the foam fairly easy. :wacko:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 22, 2023, 09:23:40 PM
not a bad idea that, although not sure how I would transport the base with all it's sticky-out things. I'll work it out nearer the time :)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on March 23, 2023, 01:12:28 AM
I just want to see it, somewhere.
lets hope you make Model Expo 2023, it is the 40th anniversary this year and this would be a most suitable exhibit to be there . :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on March 23, 2023, 01:42:32 AM
QuoteSA Scale Model EXPO 2023

SA Plastic Modellers Association presents

About the EXPO

Celebrating it's 40th year in 2023, the annual SA Scale Model Expo is SA's largest Scale Model display event which attracts modellers from both here and interstate.

The expo gives modellers across SA and the rest of Australia a chance to show off their completed projects.

The SA Scale Model Expo is for modellers of all standards who can either enter their models for technical judging or for display only if they do not wish to compete.

Other things to do during the expo include checking out the various hobby traders, model building and finishing demonstrations.

A great event to take the kids or to get inspired and become involved with the hobby of scale modelling.

Just another fun Adelaide-Melbourne rivalry. ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 26, 2023, 07:51:55 PM
Well Brian, I'm working on it :)
all masking done and now waiting on delivery of more paint so I can get the final coat on her:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52773144877_13c111d908_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2opoaoe)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on March 26, 2023, 09:57:55 PM
Brilliant, as always! :mellow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on March 27, 2023, 01:25:38 AM
That looks superb even before the final coat  :bow: 
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 27, 2023, 04:04:05 AM
thanks guys
I managed to thread the first of thousands of fibers tonight. This will take a very long time I think  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on March 27, 2023, 04:10:37 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on March 26, 2023, 07:51:55 PMall masking done and now waiting on delivery of more paint so I can get the final coat on her:

Bunnings 10 Litre  ;D This is a monster
So I suspect next will be a few thinner coats to get a subtle show through of the high contrast shaded areas.
Really looking forward to how this ends up
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 27, 2023, 05:17:04 AM
Nah, 2 pots from BNA. Metro were sold out  :banghead:

The real fun has begun:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52774489086_50a7ba2007_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2opv3Yf)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on March 27, 2023, 06:16:28 AM
 :blink:  I couldn't of done that when my eyes were working properly  ;D  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on March 27, 2023, 08:28:20 PM
Am I capable of doing this sort of build..yes I am ...is my sanity strong enough to handle a build like this..nope.far to late to save that 🙃🤪
Damn this is brilliant hatter mate..absolutely epic stuff this is 🤘👍
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 27, 2023, 08:36:13 PM
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:
Don't worry about leaving any sanity at the door, its taken me this ling because I took a few breaks which helps.   ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on March 27, 2023, 08:41:21 PM
Quote from: Madhatter on March 27, 2023, 08:36:13 PMThanks guys  :thumbsup:
Don't worry about leaving any sanity at the door, its taken me this ling because I took a few breaks which helps.   ;D
Oh I'm not worried about leaving my sanity at the door mate..I left it down the street and now I can't find it 😒 😫 😁
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 27, 2023, 11:28:44 PM
LOL - sounds familiar  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on March 27, 2023, 11:37:44 PM
 ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on March 28, 2023, 03:21:10 AM
I am not capable of building something like this.  I don't have the patience.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on March 29, 2023, 01:32:07 AM
Paint arrived this morning, and now the misted base colour is now on. Couple of spots to add more on but yeah, am happy with how it looks. I'll add a clear coat, wash it and then pencil in some lines where needed

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52779146525_bbde36c1c9_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2opUVsV)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on March 29, 2023, 02:09:57 AM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: philp on April 16, 2023, 07:52:14 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on April 16, 2023, 08:29:48 PM
Looking great hatter  :thumbsup:  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 17, 2023, 03:02:25 PM
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:  Its on hold yet again while I wait on the delivery of more fiber optic cable. I thought I had enough but when I started to thread them, I realised I had the wrong size, so I have 30 meters of unused fibers for another project (most likely to go in the space cruiser)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on April 17, 2023, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 17, 2023, 03:02:25 PMThanks guys  :thumbsup:  Its on hold yet again while I wait on the delivery of more fiber optic cable. I thought I had enough but when I started to thread them, I realised I had the wrong size, so I have 30 meters of unused fibers for another project (most likely to go in the space cruiser)
Sounds like a typical government project.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on April 18, 2023, 11:25:32 AM
Vader will not be happy  :angry:  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on April 18, 2023, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on April 18, 2023, 11:25:32 AMVader will not be happy  :angry:  ;)

I knew Mr Vader, or the actor who played him anyway  :angel:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on April 19, 2023, 12:42:41 AM
Ya lucky bugger .. ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on April 19, 2023, 05:18:41 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on April 18, 2023, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on April 18, 2023, 11:25:32 AMVader will not be happy  :angry:  ;)

I knew Mr Vader, or the actor who played him anyway  :angel:

I worked with a bloke who knew his son.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on April 19, 2023, 06:43:24 AM
Quote from: zenrat on April 19, 2023, 05:18:41 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on April 18, 2023, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on April 18, 2023, 11:25:32 AMVader will not be happy  :angry:  ;)

I knew Mr Vader, or the actor who played him anyway  :angel:

I worked with a bloke who knew his son.


When you were in London ? Dave Prowse (Darth Vader) was from S Norwood and his other claim to fame was as the Green Cross Code Man. That's when we met him whilst training at Croydon Arena. Yes at one time I used to train and to farther show my age was a decent half miler. None of this 800 metres nonsense  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 21, 2023, 05:55:50 AM
Its been a while since I last updated this but I have been working on it. Still no sign of my fiber cable so will now need to look at sourcing from somewhere else. In the mean time, I have been making some more buildings and working on the ship itself.
Starting with the ship, I have penciled in the panel lines using a 0.03mm mechanical pencil and a cut up credit card. I'm debating whether or not to take some of them back but I quite like it as is.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52914178250_8a1de10425_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBQZG7)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52914249578_bef2505af2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBRmTU)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52914249623_f1a0023423_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBRmUF)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52914249693_ff6a655a48_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBRmVT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52913212297_1f3907212d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBL3xK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52913794056_625619bd20_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBP2u5)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52914301670_31fe0f1378_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBRCo3)

And finally, a rough layout of the taller buildings for the base. I am waiting on some silicone molding stuff to arrive this coming Tuesday as I want to cast some of the newer pieces. Once that's done, I can start finishing off these structures and getting them detailed ready for lighting and painting

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52914250113_d51421f2f5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oBRn48)

Well, that's it for now, but will be back again soon.
As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 21, 2023, 06:09:00 AM
That's looking stunning and your patience is just  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 21, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
It never gets less awe inspiring, mate, I kid thee not! :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 21, 2023, 04:13:17 PM
Thus is still blowing my mind everytime I look at this..epic is such a understatement and I'm no where intellectual enough to find that word. :thumbsup:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 21, 2023, 11:34:14 PM
thanks guys - gad to see there is some interest still present - even Coming up tot he 5 year mark!
I made my molds today and even pumped out casting  :thumbsup: So, tonight, I shall finish off penciling in the panels and tomorrow make a start on the rest of the buildings. Finally, some progress  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 22, 2023, 12:35:03 AM
Meh! What's a few years between friends? ;)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 24, 2023, 12:46:09 AM
finished the hull this afternoon. Now for the top panels etc

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52921910788_ccc1fdb289_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oCwCiJ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52920876617_09dfc4238c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oCrjTc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52921455701_290622b8a1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oCui2p)

So far so good:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52918716540_4b2e40cf76_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oCffLu)

Well, that's it for now but thanks for looking

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 24, 2023, 02:53:26 AM
 :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on May 24, 2023, 03:57:04 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 24, 2023, 02:53:26 AM:bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:

What he said...

...and then some.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 24, 2023, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 24, 2023, 03:57:04 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 24, 2023, 02:53:26 AM:bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:

What he said...

...and then some.

Totally
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 24, 2023, 08:19:04 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on May 24, 2023, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 24, 2023, 03:57:04 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 24, 2023, 02:53:26 AM:bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:

What he said...

...and then some.

Totally

Ditto.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 24, 2023, 09:25:01 AM
Bogglement to the MAX!  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 25, 2023, 09:58:41 PM
My opinions on this build haven't changed one single insi pinsi little micro bit.
What I wrote last time still applies...
Absolutely bloody mind blowingly brilliant 👏 👏 👍 😁😁
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 26, 2023, 06:33:19 PM
thanks guys - I'm just glad there is still interest in this super long project

OK, well, I have finished putting in all the panel lines and I am really happy with how they came out. It was a fair amount of work but IMO, worth every minute. I reckon it took a total of about 4- 5 hours to do the whole ship - which given how long its taken me to get this far could be considered mind blowingly fast :) 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928568704_9c049c9de2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD7Kto)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928859593_a1541f12e6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD9eWH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52927593523_f25769fe6b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD2KzV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52927154121_387f3b780d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oCZuY2)

then you put it all together and you get this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928568314_18932c6152_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD7KmE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928859388_a1dfd90a4b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD9eTb)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928798350_3d3476075c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD8VJN)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928568684_7e4ca96b03_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD7Kt3)

And finally, the obligatory bridge shot:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52928416956_88f3babe00_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oD6Yn3)

Well, that's it for now. I'll continue working on the base until I get some more fiber. I still need to add a clear coat to the ship and then I'll do a small wash in places to bring out more detail but other than that, yeah, the painting side is pretty much done. Open to any suggestions on how to make it better

As always, thanks for continuing to stop in and have a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 26, 2023, 08:50:23 PM
Si I'm not saying the word lightspeed could be used in this but yeah lightspeed works here  :wacko:  :wacko:
Still enjoying it bud  ;D

As for bring out much more details have ya considered a pin wash as looking at your pics there's plenty of places it would work very nicely.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 12:11:43 AM
oh yeah, a pin wash is exactly what I was intending to do in places. I just need to clear coat it first to protect the pencil etc  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 27, 2023, 12:14:49 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 12:11:43 AMoh yeah, a pin wash is exactly what I was intending to do in places. I just need to clear coat it first to protect the pencil etc  :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:  :thumbsup: nice 😀
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on May 27, 2023, 04:11:03 AM
Do you think you'll have it ready for this years Model Expo?

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 04:36:47 AM
sadly no - I was trying to but I ran out of fiber and the remaining stuff I had was the wrong size. Maybe next year
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on May 27, 2023, 05:03:09 AM
What's another year?  Looking forward to it.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 27, 2023, 05:34:26 AM
What's a 'pin wash' when it's at home?  :-\
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on May 27, 2023, 05:47:23 AM
A wash applied directly into panel lines with a thin brush.  You only darken where you want to rather than brushing wash across the whole surface.
An example of where you would use a pin wash would be the panel gaps and door openings of a model car.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 27, 2023, 06:13:16 AM
Ah right, thanks. I can't say I've ever done that.

Doing one of those on that Star Destroyer would only take about 60 yrs.............  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 07:43:18 AM
Im having second thoughts on the buildings.  Whats your opinion on it? Should I have them or not?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 27, 2023, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 07:43:18 AMIm having second thoughts on the buildings.  Whats your opinion on it? Should I have them or not?

Quote from: Madhatter on May 24, 2023, 12:46:09 AM(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52918716540_4b2e40cf76_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oCffLu)
Si

If this is what you're having second thoughts about, this adds, IMHO, some contextual depth.  But it shouldn't, I feel, be like a completely built up cityscape, especially if that's the trench.  Maybe add some 4.5 or 5 inch batteries (if you can find any that small) as heavy turbolasers.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 05:51:39 PM
I think you've nailed it there for me - the trench is too big in comparison to the buildings. Sadly, I can't take it out and redo it without doing a lot of damage to the surrounding material.
I'll save the buildings for another project later down the track and rethink the surface details
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2023, 08:03:10 PM
I think this is probably better:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52931028539_27458fb555_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oDkmGk)

I am currently casting some more of the higher pieces which will look much more in scale than the whole building thing
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 28, 2023, 05:04:33 AM
I think you've got it right with that second stab at it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 28, 2023, 05:25:18 AM
Yep, much better! The first version was too busy! :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Let the trench determine its own scale against the Star Destroyer. ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 29, 2023, 05:31:55 AM
 :thumbsup: Thanks for the honest feedback guys
I have finished building the machinery stuff for the hole section on the right side of the base. It's made up of 2 layers which will be sufficient to give a scale of depth. You won't see much if it but I will be adding some lights under the first floor to make it more visible and for some interest (gotta have more to look at than just the ship right?)

This is now all ready for paint which I will do tomorrow night.

Ground floor:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52934192153_963450b742_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oDBz8p)

First floor:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52933736177_c01506b698_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oDzezK)

Together:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52934337526_8711ce6d38_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oDCjkQ)

And with the top plate on:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52934352366_ed3ca06569_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oDCoKG)

Simple but effective I think. I'll take some more shots once it's all painted etc
As always, thanks for stopping by
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 29, 2023, 05:55:31 AM
Looks good  :thumbsup:  Impressive brass bending
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 29, 2023, 11:49:49 AM
That's a bit more than affective Si..that looks superb...painting will bring that to life so well it will be amazing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Gondor on May 30, 2023, 02:05:44 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 29, 2023, 05:31:55 AMGround floor:

First floor:


Now why do I have the theme tune for "Are you Being Served" running through my head?

Gondor
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 30, 2023, 03:02:59 AM
"Effective" is, I think, something of an understatement. :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on May 30, 2023, 04:05:03 AM
With Wombat and Warduck here, for my take the structures add too much buzz in the background, the ship itself is the star here.
The visual exploration of the Trench and the surface, should add to the awesome work on the ship.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 30, 2023, 04:40:02 AM
yeah, I made the the trench too large really but I can't change it now as its too far along for that kind of amendment sadly, otherwise I'd make it narrower. Live and learn I say  :thumbsup:  The black surfacer has just gone on and it looks really good now that it's all uniform in colour. Just need to work out the colours next - or more to the point, which greys to choose  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 30, 2023, 06:12:16 AM
You could always drop a bit of sand or very pale pink in there. ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 30, 2023, 10:41:20 AM
Yep ..Womby us right..more colours..it will highlight the base and add depth.
Looking at small city's in the Star wars world you've got quite a few different grays..sand..light blue..white and metallics..your choices aren't that bad 😉
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 31, 2023, 01:39:26 AM
Definitely be adding some more varied colours in there. I was never going to just paint it grey, I was being a bit facetious  as I'm not a huge fan of just grey  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 01:54:10 AM
Yeah with all those shades of gray out there at the end of the day it's still gray .
I hate what I call mass single colour.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 31, 2023, 02:54:58 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 01:54:10 AMYeah with all those shades of gray out there at the end of the day it's still gray .
I hate what I call mass single colour.

Somewhere on the board is a list of the more than 50 Shades of Grey that re out there
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 03:00:24 AM
Quote from: scooter on May 31, 2023, 02:54:58 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 01:54:10 AMYeah with all those shades of gray out there at the end of the day it's still gray .
I hate what I call mass single colour.

Somewhere on the board is a list of the more than 50 Shades of Grey that re out there
That's a bloody lot of shades Scoot mate..i had no idea there was that damn many 😳
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 31, 2023, 04:12:14 AM
"50 Shades of Grey" is a minimalist concept. ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2023, 04:21:29 AM
A quick glance at an FS595 shades book will confirm that, there's ZILLIONS of greys in there, good thing they didn't try and give ALL of them names!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 31, 2023, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 03:00:24 AM
Quote from: scooter on May 31, 2023, 02:54:58 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 01:54:10 AMYeah with all those shades of gray out there at the end of the day it's still gray .
I hate what I call mass single colour.

Somewhere on the board is a list of the more than 50 Shades of Grey that re out there
That's a bloody lot of shades Scoot mate..i had no idea there was that damn many 😳

Found it! So I bought my wife 50 Shades of Grey (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?msg=568817), and it's got about 50 various shades of grey listed.

Not to detract from Si's insanity here, I'd [bistrongly[/b] recommend comments about that book series go on the linked post.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 12:52:16 PM
Quote from: scooter on May 31, 2023, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 03:00:24 AM
Quote from: scooter on May 31, 2023, 02:54:58 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on May 31, 2023, 01:54:10 AMYeah with all those shades of gray out there at the end of the day it's still gray .
I hate what I call mass single colour.

Somewhere on the board is a list of the more than 50 Shades of Grey that re out there
That's a bloody lot of shades Scoot mate..i had no idea there was that damn many 😳

Found it! So I bought my wife 50 Shades of Grey (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?msg=568817), and it's got about 50 various shades of grey listed.

Not to detract from Si's insanity here, I'd [bistrongly[/b] recommend comments about that book series go on the linked post.

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Some of the comments were great 👍
And yeah tan is not gray and I do wonder how many are the same colour with a different name.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 06, 2023, 05:11:32 PM
continuing on with the base, the insert is painted and lit:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52949982789_8cf021bf5c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oF1v8K)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52950216315_07c46f5425_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oF2Gy4)

I have sprayed black underneath since taking that shot to add light blocking. It looks pretty good to me
The walls have also been started. You won't see much once the middle layer is added but there is enough to make it interesting:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52956418051_2b361d2d4d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oFzu7x)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52956560544_b6c68b917c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oFAdtj)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52956867498_b9efb6361c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oFBMHC)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52954405727_9e86bbb49a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oFpaVi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52954405552_332400e12e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oFpaSh)

Well, that's it for now but I'll update this again once the bottom layer has been finished. I think I'll need to black base the bottom first before I start on the top layer as it'll be impossible to get in there once the middle deck has been added. The top plate is almost ready for paint too. I still need to add frame work to it which I'll do once the bottom part is done.

As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 06, 2023, 06:36:36 PM
 :blink:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on June 07, 2023, 06:01:42 AM
Stunning  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 07, 2023, 10:38:29 AM
I think the word "GLUP" applies here 😆
I keep trying to think of amount of work you've done and the amount of time you've put into this build..then it turns into to many numbers and I get a headache ...then I  require coffee ☕️ 🙃 😃
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 07, 2023, 05:27:14 PM
LOL, thanks. I need something stronger than coffee   ;D not sure what GLYO means though. When i googled it, it came up with one throwing up in one's own mouth. Hopefully thats not what you meant  :unsure:   ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 07, 2023, 10:43:19 PM
Hatter mate GLUP is a classic sound when you swallow hard when something stocks or surprises the hell out of ya . ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 07, 2023, 10:58:58 PM
ha - I also just realised I had written GLYO instead of GLUP  ;D Serves me right for touch typing
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 08, 2023, 12:16:38 AM
No wonder I was getting confused! :blink:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2023, 12:20:48 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on June 07, 2023, 10:58:58 PM;D Serves me right for touch typing

That has now made me think of the good old days of typing pools filled with 500 or so mostly young ladies  :wub:  Had a girlfriend from the typing school and she'd learnt to type at secondary school, some of the lessons involved them being blindfolded while taking typing dictation  :o  Do that now and the teacher would get arrested  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: philp on June 08, 2023, 10:58:20 AM
Uh, shouldn't it be GULP?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 08, 2023, 11:13:29 AM
Quote from: philp on June 08, 2023, 10:58:20 AMUh, shouldn't it be GULP?
Yup hahahaha
Seems MY ability to type is crapped out too 😄😄😄
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Gondor on June 08, 2023, 11:24:32 AM
I was tought to type at school as well. I can even touch type, just not very well.  It becomes very much similarto what Eric Morecambe once said if I type fast, "All the right notes, just not necessarily in the right order!" Just substitute Notes for Letters  :rolleyes:

Gondor

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 08, 2023, 02:02:18 PM
The first computer I got was the first time I used a keyboard to type..was I slow ?..yep ..snail pace  ;D
The moment I got my first ergonomic keyboard things really ramped up in speed...cause of the size of my shoulders and arms a normal keyboard was bloody annoying to use.  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2023, 04:07:23 PM
Keyboards? Don't start me on keyboards...........

I can wear the letters off the keys of most keyboards inside 3-4 months. My old laptop, which is lurking underneath the keyboard with which I'm writing this, hasn't had any visible letters for the last 3-4 years. I just buy new cheapie USB keyboards and plug them in to the laptop, until they wear out of course.

And no, don't tell me about the wonderful (and expensive....) top quality keyboard that you've got that's lasted for YEARS because I've tried them all and I can wear ALL of them out.

They should use me a keyboard fatigue test engineer!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 08, 2023, 10:14:25 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2023, 04:07:23 PMKeyboards? Don't start me on keyboards...........

I can wear the letters off the keys of most keyboards inside 3-4 months. My old laptop, which is lurking underneath the keyboard with which I'm writing this, hasn't had any visible letters for the last 3-4 years. I just buy new cheapie USB keyboards and plug them in to the laptop, until they wear out of course.

And no, don't tell me about the wonderful (and expensive....) top quality keyboard that you've got that's lasted for YEARS because I've tried them all and I can wear ALL of them out.

They should use me a keyboard fatigue test engineer!
Ahhh but I hear you ask why my super duper keyboard has lasted so long??
Bugger all use is the answer  ;D
Since there's no hard line internet here at the camp ..I use the net on my phone and that keyboard just sits there gathering dust.
Hell my PC hasn't been turned on for at least a year now...I use my laptop for everything now.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 09, 2023, 12:54:04 AM
slightly off topic here - keyboards and Star Destroyers alike, I'm already thinking of my next project and this is something I have in mind:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52961915893_1acebc4865_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oG4EqV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52961857955_9a4ca75d5b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oG4ncZ)

What do you guys think? Minus the wires and fins and add in some superstructure walls, would it work?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 09, 2023, 01:03:35 AM
What do we thjnk ???
You really need to ask ?? .
Of bloody course you should 😃
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 09, 2023, 02:46:14 AM
Er ... Yes! ;)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2023, 04:23:34 AM
More fins not less.  And a big glowing engine at the back and swarms of single seat fighters launching from it.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: philp on June 09, 2023, 10:11:24 AM
I like the idea of turning the spaceship back into a sea vessel.  Definitely a great whiff idea.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 09, 2023, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: philp on June 09, 2023, 10:11:24 AM... turning the spaceship back into a sea vessel.

My thoughts exactly. I could easily make a flying battleship but I thought it'd be cool to try it the other way around and I haven't seen anyone do this. Not that that haven't - I just haven't seen it.
Still, better not get too far ahead of myself and just get this current project finished.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 13, 2023, 02:12:38 AM
The bottom layer is now pretty much ready for painting. I just need to add some PE ladders to the frame work and it'll be done. Then to make the top layer which will be pretty much the same as whats on the bottom. I'll add in some lighting too to both layers  - just for added interest :)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52971550765_707951d515_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGV3xp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52971172476_a5abc03400_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGT76b)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52971550780_2abee25200_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGV3xE)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52971627693_3fa401f50a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oGVrpK)

The next update should see some paint on it! Getting closer to the end - sort of

As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look :)

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on June 13, 2023, 05:27:05 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on June 13, 2023, 02:12:38 AMI'll add in some lighting too to both layers  - just for added interest :)

Si

I love throw away lines like this  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 13, 2023, 06:09:19 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 13, 2023, 05:27:05 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on June 13, 2023, 02:12:38 AMI'll add in some lighting too to both layers  - just for added interest :)

Si

I love throw away lines like this  ;D

Yeah, sure, just throw in a bit of lighting. No worries, mate! :rolleyes:

Damn, I wish I could just throw in a line like that! :-\
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 13, 2023, 07:01:39 AM
LOL, you could if you wanted to my friend! You going to Expo this year?
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on June 13, 2023, 09:56:28 AM
Oh yeah this is super easy stuff ..anyone can do this blind folded  :o 😵�💫
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 13, 2023, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on June 13, 2023, 07:01:39 AMLOL, you could if you wanted to my friend! You going to Expo this year?

Yep, I could say it but it would be a pointless lie. :rolleyes:

Not Melbourne, no. One day I'll get over to Melbourne for the Australian Model Expo. Next year ... Maybe ... If I'm lucky. :-\

Adelaide's SA Plastic Model Expo, yes. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 14, 2023, 04:06:28 AM
Well, be sure to let me know when you do come up to Melbourne  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2023, 04:57:03 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on June 13, 2023, 10:41:55 AMAdelaide's SA Plastic Model Expo, yes. :thumbsup:

6th to 8th October 2023?
Just so happens I am in Adelaide that weekend for a family event on the Sinday.
I should have some time on Satyrday free...
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on June 14, 2023, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 14, 2023, 04:57:03 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on June 13, 2023, 10:41:55 AMAdelaide's SA Plastic Model Expo, yes. :thumbsup:

6th to 8th October 2023?
Just so happens I am in Adelaide that weekend for a family event on the Sinday.
I should have some time on Satyrday free...

Awesome! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on June 15, 2023, 12:02:17 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 14, 2023, 04:57:03 AMJust so happens I am in Adelaide that weekend for a family event on the Sinday.
I should have some time on Satyrday free...

I'm sorry, but The Book is definitely coming out now  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on January 29, 2024, 04:59:00 AM
Dusting this one off yet again. Seeing as I have some making up to do in regards to this thread, here's a couple of the most recent (as of tonight) of where I am up to.

I'm over half way done on the left hand side but now that I've added some extra plating on this side, I'll have to do the same on the other side and also the top plate. I have to go careful that I don't extend the shelf too far out or all the detail work will be lost which is why I will be installing SMD's on both levels.

Up until 2 nights ago it was looking like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53492682086_23cc553c9c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2puXYJb)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53491790317_195d3f6d25_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2puTpCR)

And now it looks like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53495311071_c6e1b5892f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pvcsev)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53495610214_923e18a7b2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pvdZa9)

And a couple of close ups. Bear in mind, the detailing is not yet finished as I need to blend the parts in more which I will do over the course of the next couple of weeks

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53494420677_ed55b27334_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pv7TxT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53495456953_e4709c672e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pvdcAH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53495310986_530f3c9a15_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pvcsd3)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53494420622_e856f830ec_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pv7TwW)

Hopefully you can see where I'm going with it. Once it's primed etc, it'll look totally different and much more cohesive

Thanks for sticking around!

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on January 29, 2024, 06:03:09 AM
 :o  :o  :o  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on January 29, 2024, 07:46:10 AM
Once again confirming that you're a complete nutter, but in a good way! ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on January 29, 2024, 02:36:08 PM
Just wait till I start adding in the micro details to balance it out. What I envisage will make the SD look basic. I know I keep jumping way ahead of myself by talking about the end result, but I believe  (hope like heck ) that this will be something else to look at.
At the end of the day, I know its just a modified model kit of a Star destroyer which anyone can do, so that's why I am investing the huge amount of time, resources, effort and time into making the base. I want it to be as engrossing and as visually appealing as the main subject itself (lol, as if the general public would even think of this as much more than the product of someone with too much time on their hands  ;D ) .
Man, this whole build had better meet mine and your expectations. Im up to a total count of over 260k views over 4 forums, so the pressure is there. I know that's a pitance when compared to many SM platforms, but seeing as forums are literally my only online presence, it's a big deal for me personally.
Wow, that was a lot of seemingly self pitiful talk,  but rest assured, I am not fishing for comments. I am just a realist.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on January 30, 2024, 03:29:27 AM
I can't get over how small it all is.  I had it in my head that the SD was at least a metre long.

Don't think about the general public, or model show punters, or forum viewers.  Just build for yourself.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on January 30, 2024, 06:55:44 AM
As long as it meets (or, at least, gets close to) your expectations it'll be more than good enough for me! :bow:  :bow:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on January 30, 2024, 11:22:28 AM
I'm trying like buggery not to become X eyed looking at that amazing about of work and dudes ..im failing  ;D

Si mate you may not be hunting for comments but that's what your getting for one simple reason..shear lunacy..which we love mate to no end ..by the way..mind is still blown 😳  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 01, 2024, 11:21:21 PM
Man, I am terrible at responding to posts! Thank you guys  :thumbsup:
I should be nearly finished the mid left side this weekend and then it'll be the right side - which I thought I had finished but since I was doing more on the left than the right, I have to now even it out some. Won't be a issue, but it is a time set back.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: The Chaos on February 01, 2024, 11:29:10 PM
Great  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Gondor on February 02, 2024, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on February 01, 2024, 11:21:21 PMMan, I am terrible at responding to posts! Thank you guys  :thumbsup:
I should be nearly finished the mid left side this weekend and then it'll be the right side - which I thought I had finished but since I was doing more on the left than the right, I have to now even it out some. Won't be a issue, but it is a time set back.  :rolleyes:

Yeah, then you will simply add more to the right side which means you will need to add more to the left site which means you will need to add more etc etc ........

Gondor
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Wardukw on February 02, 2024, 02:43:14 PM
Quote from: Gondor on February 02, 2024, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on February 01, 2024, 11:21:21 PMMan, I am terrible at responding to posts! Thank you guys  :thumbsup:
I should be nearly finished the mid left side this weekend and then it'll be the right side - which I thought I had finished but since I was doing more on the left than the right, I have to now even it out some. Won't be a issue, but it is a time set back.  :rolleyes:

Yeah, then you will simply add more to the fight side which means you will need to add more to the left site which means you will need to add more etc etc ........

Gondor
;D  :wub:  ;D

The never ending trek to total mental destruction  :lol:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 02, 2024, 03:45:06 PM
LOL - yeah I know. The mentally saving grace for me though is that I know exactly what needs adding and where - so it shouldn't be too hard to balance it out.
However, if I look at the bottom layer I can see there needs to be more added there.........   ;D  nah, just messing. I'm happy with the bottom  :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 11, 2024, 10:42:27 PM
hi again

Time for another update to this on-going saga. Almost finished the right side mid level - just some more detail to add and then it's onto the final detailing stage of the top plate.
The left side is pretty much done as I want it to be. Maybe a couple more detail bits but not much
So, starting with the left side:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53514838404_588777bd81_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pwVx2E)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53514953195_2934546671_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pwW89P)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53514514301_ef97bd8a22_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pwTSFF)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53513630967_9dcb072ce5_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pwPm6M)

Now the right side:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53520274409_0b4bd33466_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pxpoXT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53520384215_2f1fdda327_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pxpXB6)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53520274444_78a1aaee11_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pxpoYu)

I have advanced a fair bit in the time since these photos were taken, but the next update will be the finished levels (not painted)
If you have any constructive feedback, by all means, please let me know - I won't get any better without it.
As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look
Till next time
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on February 12, 2024, 01:03:11 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on February 12, 2024, 01:25:15 AM
A fascination array of sources for all those resin parts but I knew/know they won't be staying that uncluttered for long! ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 12, 2024, 02:52:12 AM
Oh for sure it looks cluttered and somewhat haphazard now, but once the primer goes on, it should look a lot more cohesive. At least, that's the plan  :rolleyes: . I'm going to concentrate most of the finer detailing to the front edges where it will really be seen. The rest will be mostly hidden by the top plate so it'd be pointless adding more than needed for the effect. There will be lighting in amongst the layers as well - I mean, I haven't gone to all this effort not to illuminate some of it right?  ;)
I'm planning on having the rest of the detailing done by the end of the week, then, it'll be final fitting and the bit I personally can't (and can) wait for: black primer time!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 12, 2024, 03:31:59 AM
It's a good thing Star Destroyers don't have to deal with aerodynamic drag, all that lot would have a drag coefficient of more than 100000!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on February 12, 2024, 03:59:51 AM
Actually, I was thinking that the first few pic's looked far too UNCLUTTERED & knew that you would be suitably greebling them in good order.

The "clutter" is what elevates your builds to AWESOME!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 12, 2024, 02:30:16 PM
thanks mate  :thumbsup:
I was looking at the left side and was thinking to myself that I need to tie in some parts more.
I know, I know, I said I was finished it, but let's be real, it's going to be another 2 weeks or so before I'm remotely satisfied with the blending.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on February 13, 2024, 06:34:40 AM
I knew I should have invested in super glue producers shares  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 14, 2024, 07:53:18 PM
Nah, you'd be better off investing in Evergreen shares. I have gone through several packets of various sized plastic strip and sheet. I'd shudder to think of how much this has cost me
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on February 14, 2024, 09:34:34 PM
Lovely... still progressing along in the right direction, towards completion. :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: su27rules on February 15, 2024, 01:17:10 AM
Awesome!! :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :mellow:  :mellow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 16, 2024, 12:08:55 AM
thanks guys  :thumbsup:
At the pace I'm currently going with this, I may have the based finished by ..... nah who am I kidding? Who knows, really, but yeah, you're right Brian - it is heading in the right direction.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 16, 2024, 01:46:09 AM
Just as an FYI, but my final obstacle with this build has just been over come with the fiber optic store finally getting back into business.
I have just ordered 60 feet of end glow cable for 50% off - so normally that'd be $108 but got it for $54 with shipping making it $85AU - and that is a steal really when it used to cost me that much for just 20 feet!
So, if you are in the market for some fiber optic cable to spice up your build, https://thefiberopticstore.com/ is the place to go.
No, I am not being paid or sponsored by them in any way (I wish!) - I just really like their product!

Happy building!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on February 16, 2024, 05:38:51 AM
Fibre optics? :unsure: 

I start twitching just at the thought of that! :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 16, 2024, 06:56:57 PM
LOL,  you and me both mate :thumbsup:  this will be a task that I'm not looking forward to
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 19, 2024, 04:45:38 AM
Evening all

Thought I'd post a quick update of where I'm up to. Since Friday last week, I have been working on the top plate. I was asked elsewhere if I could elaborate a bit more on the process of detailing. I thought the top plate edging would be a good subject to show how I do things.

Quick disclaimer -  I am not a professional modeller and my work is pretty average in terms of tidiness but I try. I have seen some seriously amazing scratch builders here and on other sites, with some actual skills they could teach which is why I feel like a little bit of a fraud doing this as what I do pales in comparison. But I said I would, so here goes.

First, I had to measure out how much over hang I wanted and then conform the back edge to the edge of the existing base plate:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536771649_c8d431f364_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyRX24)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53535570632_4b918625cc_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyKMZS)

Then I drew out a basic outline of the edges:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536633463_493c4d654b_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyReWx)

resulting in:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536770449_22f09dc982_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyRWEn)

Using the waste material from the base layer cut, I then made a second layer. This was then flipped over and every edge lined with 0.20x0.20 strip plastic. I have run out of strip already - I used an entire pack on just 3 sides with the rear ones still to go. I'll be in the city on Friday so I'll pick some more up then

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536632928_405af6ada3_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyReMj)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536448026_79151fc11f_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyQhPm)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536632718_60074ef497_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyReHG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53536641113_065a903213_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pyRhdr)

So that's 2 evenings worth of work. Now I have started to detail the lower ledges. Once they've been done, I'll permanently attach them and then blend in the upper surface to the plates. Then the detailing will be done and I can move onto painting and lighting it all.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53538736181_96ca0e8606_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pz321i)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53538739351_df68e7a02c_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pz32WX)

As you can see, I've found a good use for all those left over PE radar bits I have lying around. They make for some great details :)

I hope I haven't insulted anyone's skill levels with my very basic and rudimentary attempts at scratch building, but I'm hopeful it will help someone out with some ideas..
As always, thanks for stopping in and having a look

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on February 19, 2024, 05:50:35 AM
I want to know where you get the giant single bladed razor blade from ?  ;D

Nah, seriously that's fascinating and well beyond my skill levels  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on February 19, 2024, 07:08:44 AM
Being a bit cocky, I'm fairly sure I have the skill level, what I lack is the Patience of a Thousand Saints! :blink:

:bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 19, 2024, 07:26:20 AM
Good grief, just LOOKING at that makes my brain reel!  :o  :o

I'd never even THINK of doing something as complex as that, I'm not sure I'd have enough years left to do it anyway!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on February 19, 2024, 09:56:09 PM
thanks guys.  :thumbsup:
Wanna see my next project?  :wacko:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53540901050_4c645d2920_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pze7xC)

Yeah baby, I am sooo going to turn this into my own personal N1! Not Mando's one coz EVERYONE will do it silver and like most people on this site, who the heck wants to do OOB and be like everyone else??
Yep, I foresee lighting, extra detailing and a racy paint scheme  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Vulcan7 on February 21, 2024, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on February 19, 2024, 09:56:09 PMthanks guys.  :thumbsup:
Wanna see my next project?  :wacko:

Yes please  ;D  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  (incredible detail on the Top Plate by the way  :o  :mellow:  :thumbsup: )
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2024, 07:11:04 AM
well, here we are again with a tri-monthly (verging on half yearly now) update. Yes, I have finally sat my rear end back down to try get this base finished - or as close to as I can before I find something else to do. However, I do want to make a fair effort to get as much done as possible and I have set myself a deadline which I won't publish because I probably will exceed it!

In order for me to blend the lips in with the top as much as possible, I had to glue the edge to the top so I could get everything to fit. Whilst that sounds like nothing unusual the size of this top plate is not almost as long as my whole work space which makes handling it a delicate operation.

Anyways, here's a few pics of where I am up to. I have almost finished the front right edge and am now making my way round the sides. All to be repeated with the left sides. I won't go as crazy on the rear as I have up front because no one will likely look at that part

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53750318770_5f102758a8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTJr8Y)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53749906561_c9026f6bc3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTGjAV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53747606789_5ab15d1257_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTuwXF)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53747472888_692e36c7c9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTtRa3)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53748984107_a1eae16851_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTBAox)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53750318500_46453e921e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTJr4j)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53750318675_6c3512ee24_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pTJr7k)

I am sorry for the slightly blurry photos - my hands have been more shaky than a wet dog of late - its cold here (at least that's what I'm telling myself). I should use a proper DSLR and a tripod to take the photos - but I was being lazy and using my phone. You get the idea anyways :)
Righteo then - see you again in a couple of months  :angel: 
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 27, 2024, 07:45:05 AM
How EVER do you know where you are trekking round that incredible structure?  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 27, 2024, 08:46:13 AM
Awe inspiring could be an understatement, here. :mellow:  :thumbsup:

Wouldn't mind seeing it in real-space, say Aust Model Expo 2025/26? (I'm aiming for one of those two, at the moment.)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on May 27, 2024, 03:39:55 PM
two weeks until the Aus Model Expo... are we going to see it this year ?

Been too long since you had a masterwork there.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on May 27, 2024, 04:04:53 PM
thanks guys - nah, it won't be done in 2 weeks sadly (I wish I could though!) I still have to install the fibers into the SD itself yet and that's a couple of months worth of work right there
LOL - I won the sci-fi last year with my airbrush star ship Brian - surely that counts right? ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: su27rules on May 28, 2024, 02:59:55 AM
 :thumbsup:  :mellow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on May 28, 2024, 04:19:46 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 27, 2024, 04:04:53 PMLOL - I won the sci-fi last year with my airbrush star ship Brian - surely that counts right? ;)

Did you? :blink:

Awesome! :thumbsup:

That was an excellent build! :bow:  :bow:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on May 28, 2024, 04:43:36 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on May 27, 2024, 04:04:53 PMthanks guys - nah, it won't be done in 2 weeks sadly (I wish I could though!) I still have to install the fibers into the SD itself yet and that's a couple of months worth of work right there
LOL - I won the sci-fi last year with my airbrush star ship Brian - surely that counts right? ;)

Ok, there was that. Good point.  :angel:
But we all know, bigger is better.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on May 28, 2024, 05:16:35 AM
Are you sure you're not auditioning to work for ILM or WETA? :wacko:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on May 28, 2024, 05:51:43 AM
I'm well and truly gobsmacked  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: The Chaos on May 30, 2024, 02:40:39 AM
Great update on the Base  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on June 21, 2024, 04:14:50 AM
gosh - I just realised I haven't replied to anyone with some thanks - so thank you :)

An update will be a little bit later than expected as I have yet again found another thing to do that my ADHD brain won't let go of until its done. No wonder this has taken nearly 6 years so far.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 02, 2024, 12:22:36 AM
hey all

Yes, this is still on going but it's really moving now towards finishing the SD itself. I have to install the lower hull fibers yet, but I am going to be making a start on that this week. Then it's the top half and that has a LOT of holes to fill. Damn my over enthusiastic drilling!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53823090513_6f96c3de8e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q1apDc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53829906983_7df3125c9f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q1LkWx)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53829665081_816fc39996_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q1K72P)

Well, that's it. Next update will see the lower half finished and wired in. Thanks for sticking around. I hope the extreme length of this project hasn't dulled the interest.

See you soon-ish

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on July 02, 2024, 02:04:17 AM
that is a LOT of fibre optic :o

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on July 02, 2024, 02:53:30 AM
I met Si at Model Expo.  You wouldn't think he was insane from looking at him...
 :mellow:

I'm really looking forward to seeing this in the dark with the lights on.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 02, 2024, 03:32:51 AM
Brian, that's just the start. Mate, there is just soooo much to install  :o
Thanks Fred, was great to meet you too  :thumbsup:
I'll do the lights out thing when I  go to test them all. That's a nerve-racking thought  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 02, 2024, 04:21:18 AM
Oh! :o My! :o Gawd! :o

 :blink:  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:

 :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 02, 2024, 04:51:57 AM
Quote from: buzzbomb on July 02, 2024, 02:04:17 AMthat is a LOT of fibre optic :o



I had some vauguely similar thoughts  ;)  :o
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 06, 2024, 06:39:49 PM
I did some math here; I went through my rubbish bin and counted 21 discarded sheaths (wrapping) and there are 32 fibers per sheath, that equals 672 - less maybe 12(?) broken or split fibers. Let's say 660 fibers on the lower half.
This is what it looks like as of 5 minutes ago:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53839037872_97689d9782_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q2z9eE)

I'll have the last 2 sidewalls attached by this afternoon, and once they're in, I'll start the bundling them into a light source. I think I'm going to end up using a lot more LED's than I initially estimated - but that's my fault for not cutting the lengths longer. I won't make the same mistake up top.
IF I remember to do it, I'll try log exactly how many hours it'll take me to thread the top half. I won't even try to guess how long the bottom has taken me so far
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on July 06, 2024, 07:08:45 PM
Awesome work  :thumbsup:  Just the sheer patience with the drilling is mind boggling.

Some pretty serious clamping going on.. have trouble finding the 12 inch G Clamp  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 06, 2024, 09:16:36 PM
yeah - I'm dreading placing the top half onto the lower half. I can already foresee a lot of fitment issues. I'm really not sure how I'm going to do it - but I have plenty of time to figure it out. Might try find a couple of large G clamps @ Bunnings  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 07, 2024, 12:39:33 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on July 06, 2024, 09:16:36 PMI can already foresee a lot of fitment issues. I'm really not sure how I'm going to do it - but I have plenty of time to figure it out.

I think a fair bit of cursing may be involved ?  :angel:

I admire your patience as much as anything else  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 07, 2024, 02:00:05 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 07, 2024, 12:39:33 AMI admire your patience as much as anything else  :bow:

And there's a lot to admire! ;D  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 08, 2024, 05:07:17 AM
thanks guys  :thumbsup:
Progress! The lower hull is now finished and I am happy to report that it all works as it should. I'm pretty stoked with how well it came out.

So, from disorganized chaos:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53839037872_97689d9782_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q2z9eE)

To some form of organization:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53843277893_f1eb65deba_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q2WSDt)

And of course - a lighting test. Now, I am very sorry for the blurry photos here - my phone just wouldn't compensate for my shaky hands. How the heck I get any detail work done is still a mystery...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53842141542_2b915c2ce2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q2R3Rd)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53843388684_3cff114b66_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q2XrzE)

I'll try to get some better shots later using my DSLR and a tripod, but we'll see how I go for time. The lights are not too bright and have way less glare in person than what the photos show. I'm super stoked about how they've come out - of course, I forgot to pull some strands out to turn them orange, but I shall try to remedy that another time. Maybe a small drop of clear orange will fix it :)

Anyways, that'll be it for a couple of months while I begin the humongous task of doing the top half. Not looking forward to that I can tell you.

As always, thanks for stopping by and having a look and for your continued viewing. At least now we're getting somewhere!

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on July 08, 2024, 05:20:39 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 08, 2024, 05:57:15 AM
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Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 08, 2024, 08:39:22 AM
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Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on July 15, 2024, 04:51:55 PM
thanks guys :)

Changing direction ever so slightly, I was dry fitting the engine block when I realised I hadn't given this thing a wash yet., So, last night, out came the Star Ship Filth oil paint and some thinners and this was the result

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53858271431_85809766b1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q4gHGK)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53858640329_02e46e7dab_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q4iBn4)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53858640294_098dd5f327_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q4iBms)

I still need to remove some more oil from parts here and there but as an overall effect, it's come out great. I also realised that I still have some roof panels to wash as well as the neck section to bring it tonally more inline with the rest of the ship

I am almost finished wiring up the front half of the top half of the hull as well, so it's getting closer to the end

See you again soon

Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on July 15, 2024, 11:38:03 PM
Cool! :mellow:

Quote from: Madhatter on July 15, 2024, 04:51:55 PM... Star Ship Filth ...

Now that's an awesome name for a paint/wash colour! :thumbsup:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on July 16, 2024, 12:29:06 AM
Tick... no cross that out... BIG TICK
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on July 16, 2024, 04:19:55 AM
That really pops.
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Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on July 16, 2024, 05:09:10 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 16, 2024, 04:19:55 AMThat really pops.
 :thumbsup:

Certainly does  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: The Chaos on July 16, 2024, 08:08:03 AM
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Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Captain Canada on July 16, 2024, 02:54:12 PM
Wow. That's all I got to say about this !
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 05, 2024, 05:29:34 AM
Hey guys

Small update - and I do mean small (2 pics - that's your lot sorry).

Threading fibers is not an easy task and it is incredibly time consuming. What you see below is 2.5 weeks of work and I am only half way through the right rear side. Luckily, I only have the left to do and then I can finish the top half of the superstructure.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53901541679_0f82ffa8e5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q86urv)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53901541639_7f45de2b5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2q86uqP)

Even though this'll sound like an advert for Egyptian Cotton sheets, the thread count is up to 384 so far, or, if you like, 2.6 meters -I know this as I am collecting the sheaths the fiber comes wrapped in for posterity and because I will no doubt be asked how much is in there when I'm done  :thumbsup:

All being well, I reckon I should have her all threaded in another 3 weeks or so. Then I have to finish and light the base...  :o
The next update should be when it is all threaded and ready to begin the final wiring (which will be fun - but not as much as trying to join the 2 halves together!)

Thanks for your continued patience!
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on August 05, 2024, 05:33:09 AM
Do love a statistic.

Jaw dropping amounts of fine work in this, all of which will be under appreciated by the masses once this is done and all put together

Keep it up :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on August 05, 2024, 05:38:53 AM
yeah don't I know it. Oh well, everyone here knows how much work has gone into it and that's what matters really. I'd love to stick an OOB version of this next to mine just to see the difference. I almost think that with the same paint job, you'd not really notice the extra details until you get closer, But then, that's kinda the whole point of this whole exercise  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on August 05, 2024, 05:54:52 AM
 :o  :o  :o  :bow:

Quote from: buzzbomb on August 05, 2024, 05:33:09 AMDo love a statistic.


Certainly kept me in employment for 40 years  ;)
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on August 05, 2024, 08:12:12 AM
 :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 28, 2025, 03:15:04 PM
Greetings everyone
I know its been months since I last updated this thread, but TBH, I only go back to this every now and then when the mood strikes me. Over the past few days, it has. I have just about finished the right side of the top plate and am now starting on the left side.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482597163_49c57411a4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rxZv)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482597118_8c92bd37de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rxYJ)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482597043_609bf332df_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rxXr)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482512999_71258a4a46_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1r7Yp)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482676565_3d773da36c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rXAv)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54481468877_bc8fab0de0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1kLAi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482676340_f055e54aa4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rXwC)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482314386_428513b84d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1q6W3)

The left side looks like the Eastern side of Australia - which was not intended

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482676355_e79598bd44_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rXwT)

And just to give you an idea on how large this actually is:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54482624083_87ae2ef118_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2r1rFZD)

As you can see, its not exactly small and is quite unwieldy at the best of times. However, no complaints as it's my own fault for making it so bloody big. I'll update again once the left side is done. Once that is finished, I can then paint it and get the lighting installed before final assembly  - which will be fun. Not
Thanks as always for your perseverance and I'll be back, one day, with more :)
Si
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: buzzbomb on April 28, 2025, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 28, 2025, 03:15:04 PMThanks as always for your perseverance and I'll be back, one day, with more :)
Si


Still loving this.. but with Aus Model Expo 2025 in 38 days... I have a growing fear we will not see this on the tables this year  ;D
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: scooter on April 28, 2025, 05:48:41 PM
Quote from: buzzbomb on April 28, 2025, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 28, 2025, 03:15:04 PMThanks as always for your perseverance and I'll be back, one day, with more :)
Si


Still loving this.. but with Aus Model Expo 2025 in 38 days... I have a growing fear we will not see this on the tables this year  ;D
Probably won't see it on the tables for a year or two yet.
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 28, 2025, 06:19:38 PM
I'd be lying if I said this would be ready for this years Expo. Optimistic at best for next year, probably, too, especially given the glacial pace this has progressed. I know I keep saying this, but I do want to get it done. It's like having an extra wife in some regards - always looking at me, judging me by my lack of enthusiasm at most times, nagging at me to just get it done already.  :rolleyes:
I'm hoping that it can retain my attention span for a little more than a week this time around!
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Old Wombat on April 28, 2025, 06:27:30 PM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 28, 2025, 03:15:04 PMI only go back to this every now and then when the mood strikes me.

Si

That, my friend, is completely understandable from the viewpoint of we mere mortals, who might only tackle something of this scale, in this scale, at this level of detail in their wildest nightmares!  :o  :o  :o

More power to you, mate!  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: NARSES2 on April 29, 2025, 01:12:29 AM
I was going to say it reminded me of the Eastern Coastline of Australia  ;D

Good to see it back  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Gondor on April 29, 2025, 02:16:10 AM
If anyone asks why a certain piece is missing, you can always say "It's due to get fitted next Tuesday"  :rolleyes:

Gondor
Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: zenrat on April 29, 2025, 04:01:06 AM
Quote from: Madhatter on April 28, 2025, 03:15:04 PMI only go back to this every now and then when the mood strikes me.

Si

Some builds turn out all the better for that.
Ignore Brian's bullying (  ;)  ), you work at the speed you feel is best.
We can wait.

Title: Re: Zvezda Star Destroyer - a new detailing project
Post by: Madhatter on April 30, 2025, 12:23:02 AM
thanks guys :) I'm not going to say I'll be back with another update soon  :rolleyes: