Now that I get used a bit into building scale models again, I have some What-if planes on my schedule.
Here is the current one, a Northrop F-5, used by a what-if customer.
The kit I want to use is 1/72 by PM-Models, a very basic one. But I want to try a camo technique for it, so a basic kit is ok for it.
Here is the kit I use for it:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0429.JPG)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0430.JPG)
I have a free day today, so instead of thinking in the office, I can do a bit work on the F-5.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0440.jpg)
It looks like a F-5 - not surprising. As its a very basic kit, most parts are fit together, now I am sanding and sanding to close all gaps. Camo painting will be next.
Two of the three green camo color are now airbrushed, waiting for the thrid color to arrive next week.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0451.jpg)
I hope the third color will be bright pink or yellow, to be fully what-if... ;)
I've had that kit with no box floating around for years.........now I know it's origin ! Hard to tell the colours as the pic is so dark, but it looks nice !
:cheers:
The three camo colors are now painted - sorry, no pink or yellow (hmm, but yellow gave me another idea for something else....)
The color scheme should be like the Luftwaffe "Norm 83" - so this plane will be one of the early 1980s.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0458.jpg)
Hope that the pic is not too dark this time.
It needs some additional color work at the nose and then landing gear and weapons can be fitted.
Most of the basic paint job is now done, and the F-5 stands on its own legs.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0459.jpg)
This will get a Luftwaffe F-5, equipped for CAS, set in the early 1980s.
Coming together well :thumbsup:
Everything is made so far, the Luftwaffe F-5 is now waiting for the glossy finish, decals and the final overall finsih.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0471.jpg)
Have to work out the story behind it now....
You could say it was Provided to the Luftwaffe by a Concerned Germany Citizen with Enough money to Try and Support Germany by giving it a Plane Well Suited to CAS Duties! does that Help? Keep up the Great Work :thumbsup: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
I'm not a fan of the F5 or F20 but it's looking good in that Scheme
Nicely done. What is the white panel behind the cockpit?
As for the backstory, maybe the Germans decided to go with F-5 instead of Starfighter when the Lockheed bribery came to light?
That's looking good :thumbsup:
and If they'd ordered the Two seat version (T-38)
as well for the O.C.U. They might have been tempted to form an Aerobatic team,
Called..... The Donnervögel ;D
Regards
Keith
Quote from: TallEng on June 17, 2012, 05:28:42 AM
That's looking good :thumbsup:
and If they'd ordered the Two seat version (T-38)
as well for the O.C.U. They might have been tempted to form an Aerobatic team,
Called..... The Donnervögel ;D
Regards
Keith
Well, in real-life, the Luftwaffe own several T-38s. Altough they are flying with American markings, those planes are owned by the Luftwaffe and used for jet pilot training of Luftwaffe pilots in the USA.
While searching for some other model parts, I run accross this thing, which is waiting to be completed for several years now:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0526.jpg)
This is a old Revell kit, I wonder what to do from it ...
Bags of scope with a B-47...... ;D
Quote from: nönöbär on June 26, 2012, 05:53:30 AM
While searching for some other model parts, I run accross this thing, which is waiting to be completed for several years now:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FDSC_0526.jpg&hash=54b8043539096114737966a686b5860f4528986f)
This is a old Revell kit, I wonder what to do from it ...
Fill the holes fore & aft of the cockpit and remove the "aircrew" mouldings.
Add a few lumps and bumps and a few antenna.
And you get the largest mother of all UAV's
....and replace those smokey and fuel thirsty J-47s with a couple of CF6s. (other large turbofans are available....)
You could scaleorama it as a smaller UAV if you wanted to.....
Gondor
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 26, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
....and replace those smokey and fuel thirsty J-47s with a couple of CF6s. (other large turbofans are available....)
Perhaps a pair of Trents?
Scale - O - Rama??
bobbo
Quote from: bobbo on June 26, 2012, 02:10:28 PM
Scale - O - Rama??
bobbo
turn it into something that is not its original scale :)
Back from my vacation, I even found the box of this old Revel kit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel29.07.2012-11-55-10.jpg)
So what to build form it?
It will be the sole prototype of the Boeing B-47 APB, which was operational in July 1972 in South East Asia - but more about the background story later....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel29.07.2012-11-55-35.jpg)
Right now, I closed all window holes, added putty and now the sanding fun begins....
>Scale - O - Rama---turn it into something that is not its original scale??<
One of my projects that got canned when I sold off most of my boxed collection was one of those "Luft '46" concept planes that were drawing-board-only. Called the "1000x1000x1000" aircraft (1000 kg bomb-load, 1000 km range, 1000 kph speed) in the "German Jet Genesis" book (P.63), it looked *REMARKABLY* like a scaled-down B-47 (shoulder-wing, wing/stabilizers all swept, underslung engines, etc.). I was going to take that old Revell who-knows-what-scale kit and put 1/72 engines from a couple of Ar-234's on it, and of course make a proper cockpit for it.
If I can dredge up the concept drawing I will post it here for "inspiration". Aha! Found it!
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi681.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv173%2Fsequoiaranger%2FFw-1000Projekt-m.jpg&hash=5c6b4c07069b37c94ee955e8d5b76a377a697ded)
PS--a purported wingspan of 41 feet seems RIDICULOUSLY small (about the same as an Me-262!!) for a *MEDIUM* bomber--my whif would have been...dunno, but whatever the box-scale B-47 came out to be in 1/72-scale dimensions!!
Now removed the engines, some putty and sanding plus the first camo color on it
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel05.08.2012-15-06-28.jpg)
The model will return in the airbrush cabin later today...
Three of the four colors for the camp painting are now added. Black will be added later today.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel12.08.2012-11-25-39.jpg)
This is the single prototype of the Boeing B-47 APB (Advanced Precision Bombing) which was used over Vietnam in July 1972. But as those test were not that effective, further tests were cancelled....
Looking good
...for the tail and nose (tail un-painted, and nose just the one base color?), and "cockpit"?
Yes, looking good so far!
The tail is now black, like the lower part of the fuselage. I have not decided yet if the nose will be in brown only or if some green will be added later to it, have to see how this will look like.
The cockpit will be very basic, don't know if there will be any interior at all.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel15.08.2012-06-54-08.jpg)
Sadly a few spots of the color got removed when removing the tape, have to fix this.
Most of the paint job is now done.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel19.08.2012-09-56-46.jpg)
As the model has no landing gear at all, I have to put it on a stand.
I am now looking in my spare part box to see if I can find something to be used a a laser target pod....
Great Work :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: has an Almost 'Thunderbirds' feel to it! Keep up the Great Work :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
While working on some additional pods for the B-47 APB....
NöNö Bärs Flugwerft has just finished a Junkers Ju 86:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel19.08.2012-09-49-18.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel19.08.2012-09-53-04.jpg)
It's an old Italieri kit, build out-of-the-box. Only the decals had to be replaced as the original ones were not usable at all.
It's not really a what-if, but at least the markings are those of a bomber used in Russia in 1942 - when the Ju 86 was not operating as a bomber anymore.
The other plane in the back is an old Frog Do-17 kit.
Nice Ju 86
The B-47 APB is now getting its glossy finish before the decals are added.
The laser & sensor pods are done now, so it should be completed soon.
Sensor pod:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel26.08.2012-11-37-18.jpg)
Laser pod:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel26.08.2012-11-37-26.jpg)
With those AAMs mounted under the inboard engine pairs, where are you going to put the balancer wheels?
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 26, 2012, 04:42:14 AM
With those AAMs mounted under the inboard engine pairs, where are you going to put the balancer wheels?
Hmm, good point... as the kit has no langing gear at all, it seems as if my engeers have missed something..... So the B-47 has to retrun to the Flugwerft again....
Perhaps fold them flat into the wing undersufaces, where there's space? That's what Boeing did with the later B-52.
Now that the B-47 is completed, the next plane is under construction in NöNöBär's Flugwerft:
A Heinkel He280 jet fighter, in a hypothetical Luftwaffe Jagdstaffel in late 1940, early 1941.
The He 280 was the first jet fighter build in Gemrany, flown under jet power about one year before the Me 262. 9 prototypes were build, none of them used operational.
The kit (Huma model)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel19.08.2012-09-59-45.jpg)
First parts put together
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel26.08.2012-11-38-08.jpg)
First color
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel02.09.2012-16-03-10.jpg)
The He-280 is an excellent subject! I liken it to our (US) later P-59 Aircomet---a competent but not outstanding aircraft. A "starter" jet fighter.
Maybe instead of He-100's as a "propaganda fighter" to fool Allied intelligence....!
I had no idea there was an injection-mold He-280 on the market. I made a He-280 whif long ago from an old resin job, and "lightened" the rear fuselage and tail by using a Vac-form version. I'll share photos of that later, once you are done with yours.
Quote from: sequoiaranger on September 02, 2012, 07:53:56 AM
I had no idea there was an injection-mold He-280 on the market.
There probably isn't now, as Huma went bust a few years ago AFAIK. They made some pretty good stuff, mostly German models obviously, and they went together well. I hope someone bought the moulds and will eventually re-pop them.
It's the first Huma model I build, the quality is ok so far. Huma had made several intersting exprimental aircraft and prototypes like the Ju 287, Messerschmitt P1011 the FA 223 and others, but sometimes they are a bit difficult to find.
A little progress o the He 280.
Due to technical problems (airbrush set did not work as it should) and time shortages (boss -> office -> overtime.... :banghead: ) ony the wings are painted with the final camo
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel09.09.2012-08-46-42.jpg)
Camo looks better on it than the prototype-gray it had in real life.
I don't think I've seen an He 280 in camoflage ? Looking forward to this
Next steps for the He280
Most of the camo painting is done now, and after some little problems, the new airbrush worked ok.
And I learned that I should not spill the color over the airbrush cabin...... :banghead:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel23.09.2012-12-18-22.jpg)
That He-280 is looking good! Keep going!
Model is now painted and some glossy finish on it to prepare it for the decals.
First time I tried a bit of weathering on it, not perfect but not too bad at all as well :)
The basic model has been modified with a drop tank, as the original range of the He280 was even less than the one of the Me109E.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel30.09.2012-11-36-26.jpg)
Can't wait for the markings to go on
Ya got it to sit on its nose!
Looks beautiful!
The He-280 wingplan is SO FAMILIAR!
I used the He-280 wings on my "He-113", but they *DO* look good with its "original" fuselage!!
great stuff
Now that the He280 is completed, see http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,35894.0.html (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,35894.0.html), something small as the next project while I am waiting for some other material.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel07.10.2012-10-02-39.jpg)
Obviously a B17, but it should be build a a captured plane, used by the Luftwaffe KG200. Plus I will try something new for painting it.
Ah and yes, on the pic, there is my friend Scratch Bear who will help me with this one...... ;D
Camo painting on the B17 is mostly done, some parts still have to be corrected a bit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel14.10.2012-15-23-07.jpg)
I - ahm, no, Scratch Bear - uses the typical yellow paint under the wings as it was used on many captured allied planes which were tested or used by the Luftwaffe.
Worked a bit on the captured B17, and tried the hairspray method on it. Ok, it worked somehow but not exactly as good as it did on a test model I tried before.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel21.10.2012-16-48-47.jpg)
And while still working on the B17, a non-What-if got completed today:
A Junkers Ju 52/3m with D-AQUI registration. This is part of my Lufthansa 1930s collection.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel21.10.2012-16-41-16.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel21.10.2012-16-45-43.jpg)
The D-AQUI is still flying today as a historic Lufthansa plane. You can book flights with it (mostly in Germany, but some in other euopean contries as well), which I did two years ago. And this is really cool, especially the sound of those three engines. ;D
That Ju 52 is just BEAUTIFUL! Funny that the call letters spell "here" in Spanish!
Thx.
Here some pics form the original.....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0016.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0052.jpg)
Sadly weather was not the best during the flight.
Btw, the original plane now has three bladed propellers due to noise restrictions. The engines are from P&W and not the original BMWs anymore. And a nice story - as the original tyres are not made anymore, it now has some Airbus typres below it. Those tyres are allowed to run at a higher speed than the old Ju is able to fly... :o
I noticed on the tail of the "real" Ju-52 a tiny German flag--I think I have a pair of such small flags that you could have to put on your model if you like. POSSIBLY the little German flags I have are "slanted" as part of a series of United Nations flags going on a jet. Lemme know if you are interested and I will look for them.
Lovely Ju 52
Quote from: sequoiaranger on October 21, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
I noticed on the tail of the "real" Ju-52 a tiny German flag--I think I have a pair of such small flags that you could have to put on your model if you like. POSSIBLY the little German flags I have are "slanted" as part of a series of United Nations flags going on a jet. Lemme know if you are interested and I will look for them.
Hmmm, now that you say it... I think I have some of those flags left somewhere.... Of course the Ju only has this flags (and the CD-CDLH registration) today, in the 30s, it did't had them :)
NöNö Bär started something new:
What's the idea bedind it?
At the end of WW2, several aircraft projects were ongoing at the Junkers company. One of them was the Ju-EF 132, a large six engined jet bomber. This one was already build as a wooden mockup. After the war, the Soviets continued the work in the Dessau Junkers factury on several projects (like the Ju 287 with forward sweept wings), until most of the staff and tools were brought to the Soviet Union.
There, construction work continued and an imrpoved version of the Ju 287 made several test flights. Design work also continued on the EF 132, but it was never build. But some of the research work was used on other Soviet bomber projekts lke the Tu-16, which showed some of the characteristics of the oringinal EF 132 design.
So now, lets take a Trumpeter 1:144 scale Tu-16 and make an Junkers EF-132T1-6 out of it....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleMode20121104133018.jpg)
Some work on the hull has been made already some old Airfix 1:72 scale HS-293 glide bombs will be transformed in the bigger HS-393 (which are surprisingly twice the size....)
This will be interesting
Only little process on the Junkers EF-132T1-6 as I am waiting for some color to be deliverd.
In the meantime, I continued on the HS-393 rocket propelled bombs and the cockpit windows
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121111180328.jpg)
As the bomber should be used for long range strike mission, a big drop tank is required when the aircraft is carrying the HS-393 due to the increased drag. So I added a mount for the drop tank at the centerline.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121111180334.jpg)
Colors have arrived, so I could do some paint work now:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121118141220.jpg)
First color of the camo scheme is now added, plus the light blue on the lower part of the hull (not visible right now)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121118141230.jpg)
Lower part of the wing, the mountings for the Hs 393 are added and the bombs added testwise. I think it needs some really skilled pilots to get the Junkers EF-132T1-6 into the air, as the bombs are very close to the ground...
Coming along nicely
It now starts to begin to look like an aircraft:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121125151616.jpg)
Paint job is done besides some minor corrections. But now I found out that the Hs 393 do not fit below the wings. :banghead: Thought I had tested it correctly. So I now have to make some modified Hs 393b which are not so high at all.
Suits that colour scheme
Lovely. Soviet designs of the 50ies and 60ies have a huge Luft '46 potential - personally, though, I find the Tu-16 is still too close to the real thing, despite the Luftwaffe markings? But I love the overall idea :thumbsup:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on November 27, 2012, 07:40:21 AM
Lovely. Soviet designs of the 50ies and 60ies have a huge Luft '46 potential - personally, though, I find the Tu-16 is still too close to the real thing, despite the Luftwaffe markings? But I love the overall idea :thumbsup:
Well, the Junkers EF-132T1-6 will only be a slightly modified compared to the Tu-16 - I am still in the warming up pahase to get back into model building again.... ;D
But the next model will have some more radical changes....
Everything has been painted and put on its place so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121202144018.jpg)
Upper side
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121202144040.jpg)
Lower side
Two Hs 393 and a huge drop tank have been added.
Right now I am looking for the decals (where have I placed them) and the final finish on it.
Very cool. The aeroplane does look right at home in those colours !
:drink:
Now that the Junkers bomber is done, something small for the rest of the year.
Its just a test model to try a camo painting - hypothetical air wing on board of the Graf Zeppelin carrier. I saw some options for the camo, so I want to try the different alternatives before doing the "real" models for it.
Here we go:
This will be the model, a very basic Frog kit
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleMode20121104133120.jpg)
Progress so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121111180406.jpg)
Would be a quite untypical plane for a German carrier....
Most of the painting is done now, so the Corsiar looks like this:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121118141652.jpg)
Two different grays for the camo pattern and light gray on the lower hull parts. The alternatives I want to test on other models is exchange the lower hull gray with light blue and as a second alternative to use a standard green camo for the camo scheme.
Decals and final finish are next.
Very neat. Did you see the Graf schemes I did some time ago?
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542263.html#msg542263 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542263.html#msg542263)
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542418.html#msg542418 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542418.html#msg542418)
They're all based on either actual schemes or schemes I've seen others put forward for the role. Since my hypothetical Ju 187 would have been a bomber, I gave it the full splinter in most cases instead of the half usually seen on fighters.
Cheers,
Logan
Quote from: Logan Hartke on December 18, 2012, 11:04:10 PMVery neat. Did you see the Graf schemes I did some time ago?
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542263.html#msg542263 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542263.html#msg542263)
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542418.html#msg542418 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20962.msg542418.html#msg542418)
They're all based on either actual schemes or schemes I've seen others put forward for the role. Since my hypothetical Ju 187 would have been a bomber, I gave it the full splinter in most cases instead of the half usually seen on fighters.
Cheers,
Logan
Nice drawings, could give some new ideas..... but wait, I have to build the carrier wing for the Graf Zeppelin first.
The Corsair is now completed:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20121125152152.jpg)
A bit more about its "history" is here http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,36256.0.html (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,36256.0.html)
Now that looks neat :thumbsup:
While concentrating on the Graf Zeppelin carrier, a small non-whatif just left NöNö Bär's Flugwerft:
A Mastercraft Mig21 with Czech markings. On the photos it looks more gray than aluminum, a bit strange. :unsure:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130331132412.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130331132450.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130331132602.jpg)
The kit was quite basic, but you cannot complain for the price (<5€). I was surprised that the decals were quite good.
Nice job.....
Another one is just finished at the Flugwerft, something for my Lufthansa 1930s collection.
A little Junkers F-13, the first all metal passenger plane for 4 passengers. Must have been some kind of interesting traveling at that time.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130407101956.jpg)
Its a Revell kit, but this is just a repack of the old GDR Pasticart kit. I have some ideas for What-Ifs for the Lufthansa 1930s series, but I am still searching for some material for that.
In the meantime, the next thing will be something for the Luftwaffe 1980s-2000.
Lovely work on them kits
In the meantime, I got something new to start with here:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130427153044.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130427153136.jpg)
It will be mostly build OOB, but I will choose a different operator and color scheme
The Mirage has got its first paint today:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130512174104.jpg)
In the meantime, another test model is coming along with most of the paint already done:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130512174034.jpg)
This Me262T is one of the test models to find a good German WW2 Naval Aviation Camo scheme. I guess its clear that the "T" is about....
That Mirage without a random makes me wonder what one with a chin intake (a-la A7) would look like ? And no I'm not building it, it's got no prop ;D
Quote from: NARSES2 on May 13, 2013, 07:30:05 AM
That Mirage without a random makes me wonder what one with a chin intake (a-la A7) would look like ? And no I'm not building it, it's got no prop ;D
I fear the answer to this is question - where is the random - is pretty boring: It will be painted in a different color, therefore I have added it before airbrushing the rest.... ;D
This one will more or less ony a "repaint" job
Quote from: nönöbär on May 13, 2013, 10:05:21 AM
This one will more or less ony a "repaint" job
That accounts for 95% of my modelling :thumbsup:
The Mirage F1 now got its color and its made a bit "dirty" ;D
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130519134312.jpg)
A few details, weapons, tanks and decals are missing and will be next.
Now again something in 1:144, this will get a model for the KG200 collection, not too hard to guess what it will be
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130609181854.jpg)
Some progress on the little B-24. Too bad that I found out that I have added not enough weight to the nose :banghead:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130623165522.jpg)
Have to see how I can fix that....
Quote from: nönöbär on June 23, 2013, 08:14:58 AM
Some progress on the little B-24. Too bad that I found out that I have added not enough weight to the nose :banghead:
Always a problem with B-24s in any scale. I ballast the engines as well as the nose.
As I could not add enough weight to the nose/engines, I had to switch to Plan B:
A little service vehicle at the end of the B24 with some hydraulic lifters - in order to make some kind of maintenance work. Something like that. The vehicle is still WIP, but at least, the aircraft is now standing as it should:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130630184626.jpg)
Construction will not stop for three weeks because of my summer vacation ;D
In real life, they often had to use a small prop to hold the tail up after all the crew had left the cabin.
I started something new today:
An old Matchbox A-4 kit from the mid 1970s. This one will be build as-it-is, but it will get a what-if paint job:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130811170225.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130825160236.jpg)
Typical for the old matchbox kits are the two different colors of the plastic parts (and the bigger models even had three colors :)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130831081016.jpg)
The pilot is already painted and in place
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130831081022.jpg)
The model after airbrushing the first two colors. One is still missing. The exciting part comes when all the tape is removed - did the camo work as it should?
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130901164616.jpg)
Something non-whatif just got completed today, a Junkers Ju 86 Passenger plane. The Ju 86 was build as a bomber and a passenger plane as many German designs in the 1930s. It was operated by the Lufthansa, Switzerland and South Africa.
This is part my "Lufthansa 1930s" collection:
The Ju 86:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130908114832.jpg)
The complete collection:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130908115146.jpg)
The civilian and bomber versions side-by-side
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130908115410.jpg)
That realy is a very attrative set of builds. Very well done indeed. :thumbsup:
I love the look of that old Matchbox A-4 first assembled......for me, those were the days ! Modeling for pure fun and they just looked right......especially in two-colours :thumbsup:
Look forward to seeing more.
:cheers:
Quote from: Captain Canada on September 08, 2013, 09:23:15 PMI love the look of that old Matchbox A-4 first assembled......for me, those were the days ! Modeling for pure fun and they just looked right......especially in two-colours :thumbsup:
When I was a kid, the only model I could get in the small village I lived were the Matchbox ones. so I had a lot of them - none of them painted, so I remember those two or three colored ones quite good.
Anyway, the A-4 now has its cammo on:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130908114700.jpg)
Too bad that some of the smaller parts seem to be lost, I fear the vaccuem cleaner was too close to the construction site... :banghead:
Ah, the picture was taken against the sunlight - it is hard to tell anything... :-\
Looks RNZAF ?
I started something new today. This time it will be a "make-one-out-of-three" model. Plus some stuff from the parts box.
To start with, here are the the kits:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130922173712.jpg)
Its on PM-Model TA-154 and two Revell Me 262. The result will be the TA-254, an enhanced version of the original TA-154. A heavy night fighter.
Oddly I have the exact same Revell Me 262 on my desk for a "quick" kit bash project I have in mind. This one will be a little different though.
Gondor
Interesting....
:drink:
nice collection of ww2 builds
Those JU-86s are great.
Here is a first idea, how the TA-154 will be converted into the TA-254:
-replace the piston engines with four turbo jets
-reduce the size of the old engine mountings and put a 3,7mm heavy AA gun into it
-give it a night fighter color scheme
-> a very heavy night fighter.
The Ta-154 was known that the pilot had a quite bad visibility to the sides, I fear for the Ta-254, it will not get better at all.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20130929132452.jpg)
I took one of the leftover Me262s to make a quick&dirty test model for the color scheme
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20130929132552.jpg&hash=e9744d526e3be6715f6ef14baa5a13b32981bef1)
It should work on the Ta-254 as well.
Not so much visible progress, but the engines and gun mounts are prepared for painting
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131006143626.jpg)
Just my 2¢ worth, but I think you should stretch the wings to give more space for the engines. They look too cramped,to me. Either that or just give it four jet engines.
Quote from: Father Ennis on October 06, 2013, 12:13:56 PM
Just my 2¢ worth, but I think you should stretch the wings to give more space for the engines. They look too cramped,to me. Either that or just give it four jet engines.
I know, I am still not totally satisfied with adding the old engin pods. Still have not decided if I will finally add them or not.
I do seem to recall an image on the web somewhere for a 4 jumo-ed 262 - just try an 'image' search
I made some changes to the planned Ta-254:
- The old engine pods will be removed -> only the four jets under the wing
- As the engine pods hosted the landing gear, it will get a central line landing gear with small aux wheels on the wingtips (like the B-47 or Baade 152)
- No big-punch 3,7 mm guns, but maybe something different, have to see whats left in the spare parts box
Additional pods in the wingtips for the aux wheels, the final position of the engines is not fixed yet
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131013152048.jpg)
Central wheel opening and prepared landing gear
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131013152146.jpg)
Wow ! That is cool ! Love the look of that one....I want to pick it up and start flying it around !
:drink:
Now that I finally got the missing colors, I could continue with the Ta-254.
The four jet engines are added to the wings:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131027173810.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131027173724.jpg)
With a night fighter camo, everything is painted in black first. Next will be some gray to the upper side.
just a suggestion - I use one part red with 2 parts black to make a dull black brown (it looks black until you put black on it) - then you can highlight with black on panel lines and ailerons - if you are into that sort of thing
it stops the black looking so plain
either way - black birds look great - i did a me 262 with extended wings and fuse in black - it looks really mean
That looks good
Quote from: dumaniac on October 28, 2013, 04:09:34 AM
just a suggestion - I use one part red with 2 parts black to make a dull black brown (it looks black until you put black on it) - then you can highlight with black on panel lines and ailerons - if you are into that sort of thing
it stops the black looking so plain
either way - black birds look great - i did a me 262 with extended wings and fuse in black - it looks really mean
Thanks for the hint, I will test this for another model. For this one, its too late now as I continued with the paint job.
Interesting - looking forward to see more, esp. with the landing gear in place ;)
While the Ta-254 is still in the airbrush cabin, something else just got finished today:
A small Yak-15. This is a very simply (<20 parts) PM-Model kit which I still had on my stockpile. Played a bit with enhancing the cockpit, but is is not very visible on the photos.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131101180950.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131101181000.jpg)
This one was airbrushed with Revel Aqua Color and I tried to let it look a bit "used"
News from the Ta-254:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131101181634.jpg)
Light gray top and camo added. Now lets continue with correcting some airbrush outtakes and add the missing parts. Next will be the landing gear.
Nice little Yak
That Yak-15 is a surprisingly good little kit, but somewhat detail less of course. Yours looks darn good, especially the weathering. :thumbsup: :bow:
The TA-254 is now standing on its own legs ... wheels:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131103130532.jpg)
On the other side, a few more parts have been added:
- Landing gear (obviously)
- Some boosters for takeoff (even if there is no Kerbal inside.... ;D )
- Two unguided air-to-air missiles
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131103130550.jpg)
Still have to think about the nae, the Ta-154 had the nickname "Mosquito" (like the British nigh fighter), so I have to think about something similar for the Ta-254.
Kanberra? ;)
Leinkäster ;D
I guess "Steckmücke" will be a good name, which is more or less the same as Mosquito.
After I had a little desater at plane nose when trying to add the Funkmess antennas, I had to rebuild it and had to fin another location for the radar antennas.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131110183012.jpg)
The aux wheels at the wingtips are also place now. The Funkmess (Radar) is better seen form upside down.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131110183036.jpg)
So I can now look for some decals for it.
sehr schon :bow: :thumbsup:
Wicked Kool !!! :cheers:
That is seriously cool
Arghhhh :banghead:
When getting the Ta-254 out of the airbrush cabin, it slipped out of my hand and tried to fly. Which it could not. :angry:
Have to fix the landing gear and antennas again...
Late to comment on this - looks wicked and marevllous at the same time. Love the weird undercarriage, which is neverthless very plausible due to the engine arrangement. :thumbsup:
Love the 254.
I'm currently whiffing the Airifx version of this kit which has to be one of the worst fitting i've ever tried to build.
Started with something new this week, an old Matchbox kit (as a Revel re-release):
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131123151204.jpg)
The lower part is painted already, the upper part will follow
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131123151214.jpg)
This will be build OOB, with a what-if paint style.
OOOOOOOO! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Banshees!!
bobbo
Quote from: bobbo on November 23, 2013, 06:20:17 AM
OOOOOOOO! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Banshees!!
bobbo
Actually, I think it's a Grumman F9F Panther
Quote from: nighthunter on November 23, 2013, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: bobbo on November 23, 2013, 06:20:17 AM
OOOOOOOO! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Banshees!!
bobbo
Actually, I think it's a Grumman F9F Panther
Only in the real world.....
Quote from: nighthunter on November 23, 2013, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: bobbo on November 23, 2013, 06:20:17 AM
OOOOOOOO! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Banshees!!
bobbo
Actually, I think it's a Grumman F9F Panther
I hate it when you're right . . . ;) ;)
You are right, it's a F9F Panther. Next colors are done, so I can start to assemble everything:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131124165948.jpg)
Besides this, something else was rolled out of my hanger today, a quite old Revell kit, no what-if but I wanted to make this one in this color scheme:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131124170210.jpg)
OMG, that Luftwaffe Phantom. Is that the 1:32 ? Its a little hard to tell. But it sends me on a time trip to about 1980 when i asked for and received a 'big' model for Christmas, opened the box and my 8 or 9 yr old brain ground to a halt. It was that kit. Thankfully my father built and painted it and it looked...exactly like that. it hung above my bed for years nearby the 1:32 Bf-109 he made made in his late teens in the 50s (which I have still, wrapped in tissue paper; best model i have ever seen.) I had the Phantom model for quite a long time and it was a seriously good kit; solid, fitted and held together very well.
None of which relates to your project - sorry. but modelling websites occassionally cause attacks like this when one sees others' old kits.
I completely fell for the Steckmucke - just awesome.
Quote from: PALG on November 28, 2013, 05:29:32 AM
OMG, that Luftwaffe Phantom. Is that the 1:32 ? Its a little hard to tell. But it sends me on a time trip to about 1980 when i asked for and received a 'big' model for Christmas, opened the box and my 8 or 9 yr old brain ground to a halt. It was that kit. Thankfully my father built and painted it and it looked...exactly like that. it hung above my bed for years nearby the 1:32 Bf-109 he made made in his late teens in the 50s (which I have still, wrapped in tissue paper; best model i have ever seen.) I had the Phantom model for quite a long time and it was a seriously good kit; solid, fitted and held together very well.
None of which relates to your project - sorry. but modelling websites occassionally cause attacks like this when one sees others' old kits.
I completely fell for the Steckmucke - just awesome.
The Phantom is in 1/72 and the box of this model was from the 1980s. Don't know how old this kit actually is, but I was surprised that it fitted quite good, so there was not so much putty and sanding required.
The Panther is now painted. A glossy finish is sprayed on it in preparation of adding the decals. Which I am searching now for.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131201143500.jpg)
Now that the Panther is finished, lets start something new.
This time, a "Make one out of two", where I will use the following kits:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131201143746.jpg)
The B-47 is from Academy, the B-29 from Minicraft, both in 1:144.
And the result will be a bomber - at least I hope so.
Six burning and four turning? ;)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 07, 2013, 11:47:49 AMSix burning and four turning? ;)
Well, definitely four burning. and if I get it right, two others burning and turning....
For a start, the nose of the former B-47 hull is cut off. And the one of the B29 as well.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131207154628.jpg)
So, both have to be combined...
This si starting to Look Cool. why do i get the Feeling this Could be a 'GA' Project coming up? Hope to see more from You. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
A little progress: The cockpit section is now attached to the rest of the fuselage. I first wanted to add it directly to the rest of the aircraft, but this way, the shape of the plane looks "better". Still looks a bit "open", but the gap will be closed next
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131207195854.jpg)
The "gap" is now covered with some paper.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131208124536.jpg)
I first wanted to fill it up completely with putty, but I think its better to add a layer of thin plastic sheets first, otherwise the putty layer would be too thick.
Quote from: nönöbär on December 10, 2013, 10:11:49 PM
I first wanted to fill it up completly with putty, but I think its better to add a layer of thin plasitc sheets first, otherwise the putty layer would be too thick.
Agree with you, it's best to have the plastic sheet :thumbsup:
This is looking so cool ! Great stuff so far !
:tornado:
So, I added some plastic stripes to it that is about to have the right diameter.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131210085256.jpg)
And I hear someone shouting "putty and sanding " now - I fear there is no way around this.
Agree with Captain Canada :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Have You got a Name for Your Awesome looking Bomber Yet? Would You be Willing to consider Names? Keep up the Superb Work :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
Regarding the name, I already have an idea for it. Actually I think it will be a "Me 247".
I now added putty and a lot of sanding & correcting is done right now
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131211220638.jpg)
Just an FYI, Boeing had a passenger Liner called the 247, so, how about Me-347?
Quote from: nighthunter on December 14, 2013, 06:00:01 PMJust an FYI, Boeing had a passenger Liner called the 247, so, how about Me-347?
I know the Boeing 247, I have a model of it somewhere around here. The Lufthansa used two of them in the 1930s, and I want to build it as part of my 1930s Lufthansa collection.
Back to the bomber, the nose now looks almost done (regarding the sanding at least):
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131215174224.jpg)
And a bit more about the engine layout
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131215174218.jpg)
Don't want to go all JMN on you but wouldn't it be better to have the twin-mounted engines inboard, where their mass would put less stress on the wings, with the lighter single engines outboard? :-\
:cheers:
Guy
Quote from: Old Wombat on December 15, 2013, 08:44:37 AM
Don't want to go all JMN on you but wouldn't it be better to have the twin-mounted engines inboard, where their mass would put less stress on the wings, with the lighter single engines outboard? :-\
:cheers:
Guy
Normally I would agree, the single engines outside like the B-47 had. But as I want to modify them to turboprops, it makes more sense to put them as the inner engines. The twin-mounted ones will get a bit more inside anyway.
Great concept !!! :wub: Have you ever considered making your engines pushers ? I was thinking leave the front pretty much alone and then have your turbo props mounted out the back.
Quote from: Father Ennis on December 15, 2013, 08:45:19 PMGreat concept !!! :wub: Have you ever considered making your engines pushers ? I was thinking leave the front pretty much alone and then have your turbo props mounted out the back.
Interesting Idea.... :cheers:
Have to see, as I still want to try some alternatives for the engines. If nothing works as it should, I can always go back to the original B-47 layout.
Anyway, something different now: I always wanted to have a little diorama stand for making photos, to make them a bit "nicer". So here is my first try - taking some stuff form the model train, a resin base and some parts form the spare parts box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131215174312.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131215174448.jpg)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20131215174458.jpg&hash=ed26cb3e2f1d6c5710c20ffd7d2f498ac29e02e3)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20131215174508.jpg&hash=20f06e74de6198b0f71a47535aa378d5bf6a26fa)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20131215174544.jpg&hash=09e7d4616d5babe55fd2a194ca83c974ecd382c5)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20131215174556.jpg&hash=b749889c9c7290333d07d92062f33b1954731cbd)
That's one BIG old spanner (wrench....) that the guy by the nosewheel is holding! Or is he about to bash something with it? ;D
Nice work on the mini diorama base
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 16, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
That's one BIG old spanner (wrench....) that the guy by the nosewheel is holding! Or is he about to bash something with it? ;D
Looks like a big C spanner to adjust the swivel flange thrust pivot bearing clearance.
I think the pilot is thinking "start the starboard engine...wait for it...wait for it...NOW!"
Very good. Adds that little extra to a build. Must do something similar myself.
The big bomber is looking awesome.....I like where that is going !
Great work on the dio base. I noticed that giant 'wrench' as well :thumbsup:
Quote from: Captain Canada on December 17, 2013, 08:51:08 PM
The big bomber is looking awesome.....I like where that is going !
Great work on the dio base. I noticed that giant 'wrench' as well :thumbsup:
It seems the big wrench is liked a lot.
If you cannot fix it with it, you can smash it ;D ;D ;D
With the end-of-December-madness in the office (and Christmas preparations), there was to much time to work on the Me-247 bomber.
Work started on the cockpit and the engines are mostly finished. The inner ones will be turboprops, the outer one jet engines.
The plane should get five twin gun turrets, two on the upper side, two on the lower side and one on the back.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131222175028.jpg)
My best engineer packed his staff and now left for this Chirstmas vacation. He said that the goes skiing in the Austrian Alps. So the Flugwerft reopens in early 2014.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20131222175822.jpg)
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Have a good Holiday
Have a Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year ... !!!
Back from the winter vacation (without any broken legs or arms....), some desperately needed colors have arrived, so I could add the first color to the Me 247:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140112175546.jpg)
Really digging the engine layout on this one....keep up the great work ! Glad to hear the crew is back from vacation and ready to work !
:tornado:
The Me 247 now almost looks like a plane now: Turboprops and jet endings are added, camo paint is mostly done. The four gun turrets are added as well.
Some smaller parts have to be fixed where some paint was removed when I removed the masking tape.
The color scheme is a typical German WW2 bomber style with two green colors on the top and a light blue on the lower side.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140119171534.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140119171542.jpg)
Landing gear and gear doors are next.
Looking good
The landing gear has now been added to the Me 247 bomber:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140126152244.jpg)
I am now working on the small aux gears mounted below the jet engines now. The nose is still missing and I am waiting for the decals to arrive here.
That is looking awesome !
:tornado:
After the Me-247 something more modern is about to start:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140202174836.jpg)
This time, it will be a "What-If" color scheme, as the F-8 fits quite nice to the Graf Zeppelin carrier.
So here is what there is so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0592.jpg)
First time to try to pimp the cockpit a bit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0593.jpg)
Marine Crusader, not a bad choice considering you've done the A-7 in almost the same scheme.
The Air Guard used to fly those things over our house in Tulsa all the time. They flew so low that they rattled the house !!! Over and over again ... Their planes were done in NATO 3-tone with gray undersides. Much as I hated them flying over I always liked the look of the camo over the lack luster Navy scheme. Just a suggestion ...
Ennis, the USAF never operated the F-8, the flew the A-7, lol.
From the ground they look the same ... And they both make too much noise !!! LOL!!!
Nice start ! Love the Crusader and she's going to look awesome !
PS- I think I had built a German Crusader years ago...but it was that awful Fujimi kit that almost kinda sorta looked almost like a Crusader...kinda. :banghead:
Too much work in the office right now, not much time for model building. Therefore only slow progress with the F-8:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140223174138.jpg)
The main hull is put together and ready for paint now
Quote from: nönöbär on February 23, 2014, 07:18:42 AM
Too much work in the office right now, not much tim for model building. Therefore only slow progress with the F-8:
Do I remember that, glad I retired early
Progress for the F-8 is still very slow, but at least the first paint is now added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140309161652.jpg)
Upper side will be next
Looking good ! Love the Crusader....this is gonna be awesome !
:cheers:
Always some interesting stuff, looking forward to more.
Good builds.
Given me a few ideas.
The Marineflieger Camo is now added and the plane is standing on its wheels:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140316173408.jpg)
What colors did you use on the Crusader (for RAL 7012 and 7035)? Looks great so far :thumbsup: - there's a profile of such an aircraft around in the WWW that tempted me to try something similar:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airlinebuzz.com%2Fchickenworks%2Fimages%2FF8_Germany77.jpg&hash=fb3d3f817fed735ceccb43a8a7a4ba4540c63b29)
But I eventually ended up with a Super Étendard in more modern wrap-around cammo.
Like this one here, too...
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcombatace.com%2Fuploads%2Fmonthly_08_2012%2Fpost-15260-0-58575800-1345659658.jpg&hash=835ef9980f1040474eb8cfd22dad2349f1cf67b7)
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on March 18, 2014, 08:38:50 AMWhat colors did you use on the Crusader (for RAL 7012 and 7035)? Looks great so far :thumbsup: - there's a profile of such an aircraft around in the WWW that tempted me to try something similar:
(https://www.airlinebuzz.com/chickenworks/images/F8_Germany77.jpg)
Yes, this is how it should look like (more or less). Maybe with a bit more colorful tail, but I am still not sure if this would fir to a Marineflieger plane.
Regarding the colors, I use Revell Aqua Color, so I use Bluegray (79) for the upper part and White (5) for the lower one.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on March 18, 2014, 08:38:50 AMBut I eventually ended up with a Super Étendard in more modern wrap-around cammo.
Like this one here, too...
(https://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_08_2012/post-15260-0-58575800-1345659658.jpg)
Oh yes, this one is also sitting around here and waiting to be build as part of my "Graf Zeppelin Air Wing" Series.
Quote from: nönöbär on March 18, 2014, 11:42:46 PM
Regarding the colors, I use Revell Aqua Color, so I use Bluegray (79) for the upper part and White (5) for the lower one.
Thank you - that makes sense with what I saw in the picture, as Revell 79 is rather bluish. 77 would be "correct", but depending on light and weathering those old school Marineflieger aircraft look that way, esp. the Tornados. Did one in a very similar fashion years ago - more elegant than RAL 7012, anyway. ;)
That Buccaneer looks good
Your Crusader is looking awesome ! Nice to see an update.
:cheers:
While the F-8 is waiting to be continued, something else left Nönö Bärs Fluggwerft recently. At least, its half a What-if: A Messerschmitt Me 109T.
This was the projects carrier version of the Me 109E with enlarged wingspan, tail hook and additional equipment (life raft etc.).
About 40 of those planes were build in real life, and as they were never used on board of the GZ, they operated at the North Sea coast and in Norway.
In the What-If world, they were on board of the GZ when it was commissioned in mid 1942 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37705.0.html (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37705.0.html)) until they were replaced by the edn of 1943.
The model is a Toga kit which was ok to build. The selected color scheme is the one that was given in the instructions and is similar to schemes that were used during the BoB.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140316173930.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140316173936.jpg)
A Me 109T waiting on the flight deck
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140316174244.jpg)
Together with a Me 109E (which was build >20 years ago). You can see the bigger wingspan of the Me 109T here.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140316174436.jpg)
The Graf Zeppelin WW2 Aircraft collection - Me 109T, Fw190 (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37766.msg613342.html (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37766.msg613342.html)), Corsair (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,36256.msg582333.html (http://https//www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,36256.msg582333.html)), Me 262T (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37120.msg600517.html (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37120.msg600517.html))
Nice 109 T, you really do see the extended wings in that picture
Nice work ! I love naval a/c. The GZ is always a neat whif....a real 'I wonder.....' type.
The collection looks good as well. One of them just doesn't fit in tho :thumbsup:
Quote from: Captain Canada on March 20, 2014, 08:41:48 AM
Nice work ! I love naval a/c. The GZ is always a neat whif....a real 'I wonder.....' type.
The collection looks good as well. One of them just doesn't fit in tho :thumbsup:
I wonder which one does not fit.... ;D
More progress on the F-8, wing has been added and most of the payload is now read (but not added).
Sadly the front wheel has broke off. I hope that the fix will work as the plane is quite nose-heavy (I added too much wight to the nose)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140323175000.jpg)
Really looking the part now !
:tornado: :wub:
While I am still fighting with the broken nose landing gear of the F8 (any good ides how to fix that? :banghead: ), something else left the Flugwerft.
The most horrible kit I have build so far.... The Roden He 111 :wacko:
I had read reports in the web that this model does fit very bad, and yes, it was true. For example, if you try to put the landing gear box in the wings you will see that this thin is simply too high. More than 5mm. So you cannot put the wing together. And the same for the hull itself. Adding the interior, you have no chance to pub both sides together, the parts simply do not fit. So try to avoid this kit, I guess the bomber versions are the same bad quality.
Anyway, even if it was close that this place flew out of the window, it finally got completed and is now part of the Lufthansa 1930s collection:
About the plane: This is the civilian version of the He 111. 12 of them were ordered by the Lufthansa, but only six of them got into service in 1936.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140323175630.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140323175704.jpg)
All the Aircraft of the Lufthansa 1930s collection (left to right): Junkers F-13, Junkers Ju52 3/m, Heinkel He 111, Heinkel He 70 Blitz, Junkers G23 (Swiss colors), Junkers Ju 86
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Image1.jpg)
Nice Lufthansa collection :thumbsup:
That looks gorgeous. Sorry to hear it was a bugger to build ! Glad it landed on the table and not out in the street :thumbsup:
The collection looks awesome, and the 111 makes a great centerpiece !
:cheers:
Now that the F-8 has been finished, time to start a new What-If.
Something older this time:
- It will be a bomber
- Based on a quite famous plane of the 1930s, but modified in propulsion and more
- Testing a new camo scheme that I want to use in other projects as well
So here is what has been made so far....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140409201340.jpg)
Still a bit to go :)
I was going to guess Dakota, but she looks kinda square like a Tante Ju ?
:ph34r:
Quote from: Captain Canada on April 09, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
I was going to guess Dakota, but she looks kinda square like a Tante Ju ?
:ph34r:
A quite good guess :)
So actually it is something based on the Ju 52. The plane that most people call "Ju 52" or "Tante Ju" had the offical name "Junkers Ju 52/3m" where 3m stands for "drei Motoren - three engines". There was also a "Junkers Ju 52/1m" - a one engined version of this plane, but only six of them were build. Not surprising as the perfomrance of this plane was not too good.
So now comes the "what-if", if there was a "1m" and a "3m", I guess I have to see how a "2m" would looked like what could be made of it.....
So more to come
Ju 52 was my first guess, too. Reminds me of a whif/conversion project a friend did with a "used" Ju 52/3m, many years ago, though - he turned it into a two-engined luxury fyling boat. The nose engine was omitted and a glass nose installe, the wings went into a shoulder position. No boat hull at all (we were young these days... :rolleyes:), but it looked VERY conclusive. It even featured a complete new interior, including a glass shower cabin!
Looking forward to see what becomes of yours!
Quote from: nönöbär on April 09, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
So now comes the "what-if", if there was a "1m" and a "3m", I guess I have to see how a "2m" would looked like what could be made of it.....
I'm sure Tophe would like to double it to make a "5m". ;D :lol:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 10, 2014, 03:17:36 AM
I'm sure Tophe would like to double it to make a "5m". ;D :lol:
So this would be the "Ju 52 Zwilling" ;D
Not this time, maybe for another model
Very pretty Heinkel 111, sir. :thumbsup:
Ju52/2? Interesting - different engines?
I did a Junkers JU53A-1 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,33915.msg534632.html#msg534632) a while back, using a 'rescued' built Ford Trimotor; it'd be interesting to put the two together.
Quote from: kitbasher on April 10, 2014, 05:29:23 AM
Very pretty Heinkel 111, sir. :thumbsup:
Ju52/2? Interesting - different engines?
I did a Junkers JU53A-1 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,33915.msg534632.html#msg534632) a while back, using a 'rescued' built Ford Trimotor; it'd be interesting to put the two together.
Oh, I like the Ju53 :thumbsup:
I think this is a bit in the direction what I want to do with the Ju52/2m. I want to use the pre WW2 cammo (brown/gray/green) not a WW2 style as you used.
A bit more work on the Ju52/2m:
The interior is almost done, pilots in the cockpit and some of the windows are closed. The remaineing windows will get some additional MGs mounted in there. The mount for the rear gunner is also there (quite good that the Italieri model which I use also contains parts for the military version of the Ju52.
The nose has been cut off - and a modfied nose without an engine will be added
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20140413170814.jpg&hash=f512790503b6e7ad52b7a8efaa0d138d1e916ca0)
After being knocked out by a cold last week, I now could continue with the Ju52/2m.
Pilots are in position and the new nose mount is prepared
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140421113156.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140421113212.jpg)
Four MGs will be mounted in the cabin, one in the nose and another on top of the hull.
Woah ! That looks great ! Lots of guns, love the new nose, and since she has a hull, she'll even be able to float !
:thumbsup:
Slowly, the parts for the Ju 52/2m come together. Its just about adding everything together, warm up the airbrush and put on some paint.
This is how it will look like somehow:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140427165354.jpg)
But now have to do a short break - vacation in Holland is waiting for me ;D
Maybe my skilled engineer can continue the work next week...
Enjoy the vacation
Gonna be a beauty. The nacelles look weird without radials attached !
Enjoy your time off....'see' you soon !
:cheers:
The new nose has been added to the Ju 52/2m and the first paint has been airbrushed - light blue on the lower side. So not really much visible of it on this photo.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140511163552.jpg)
Now the upper side camo can start....
Now it's all coming together :thumbsup:
While the Ju52/2m is currently in the paint shop, another plane just left NöNö Bärs Flugwerft.
A Mig 23, 1/72 scale, a Hasegawa model. Which was quite good to build. I always liked this plane and wanted to try something different than the usual aluminum paint on Russian planes
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140511163018.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140511163052.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140511163104.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140511163202.jpg)
Beautiful MiG-23!
The Ju52/2m is now back from the paint shop with its early Luftwaffe camo scheme. Does look quite good on this plane to me
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140518164124.jpg)
Now lets start with all the small details.
Nice Mig and the Ju 52 is really coming along nice now :thumbsup:
Wow ! Great job on both counts ! The Mig looks awesome. I like the dio base and the way the aeroplane and the vehicles keep moving.
The Junkers on the other hand just looks mint ! Great job on the paintwork.....very impressive !
:wub:
Well, the construction of the Ju52/2m is coming to its final stages:
Wheels: added
Read gunner: added
Paint job: almost complete
A few details: missing
Decals: missing
Final finish: missing
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140525162932.jpg)
I wonder - should I add some external bomb load or should the plane internal bombs only? I could add a rack under the wings with some smaller bombs would this looking real?
Given the period I would have some small bombs fitted externally. Adds interest as well.
This is looking really good by the way :thumbsup:
I added some 50kg bombs externally:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140530164158.jpg)
Everything is right on place now, so only the final finish and decals are missing.
Nice job!
I couldn't help but think if I want to whiff a vanship from the Last Exile I should use a JU-52 for body panels.
Like where you have put the bombs :thumbsup:
Something new just finished:
A quite old (early 70s) KP model of a MiG 15 in 1/72. Build OOB, just the decals had to be replaced as the originals were not usable anymore.
The model did not fit that good, I guess this is where you see the age of the kit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140608145506.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140608145542.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140608145552.jpg)
I have a couple of different KP kits around, so I have to see what kind of What-If to make from them.
Lets start something new, this time it will only be a what-if paint job.
So, this is where everything starts:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140601181636.jpg)
A really nice kit to build.
And this is how it looks right now, first paint jobs are done
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140615123220.jpg)
Great work as always ! Love the look of the Zero so far.
:cheers:
All the airbrushing has been done on the Zero, so even if its not finished yet, I guess its clear what this will be ;D
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140619115604.jpg)
Unfortunately I just saw that the decals I wanted to use do not work anymore, so I have to get some new ones. I hope they will arrive when everything else of this plane is done.
Nice, a German Zero is always an option - the Battle of Britain colors suit her well.
Besides... I wonder if a BMW engine could be grafted to the front, for a more 'domestic' look?
Well, there are no BMWs in my spare part box, so I stay with the original one.
Painting is now complete and the decals should arrive tomorrow, so here it is waiting for the last steps to do
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140622114642.jpg)
Time to start something new.
This time, I use some stuff from the spare parts box. Most of this is from a Revell kit (I guess its obvious which one), and it's not really clear how this will end, but the only thing I know - no Luftwaffe aircraft this time.... ;D
So this is I use to start with:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140629105956.jpg)
After a short break, work continues on what was originally a Me 262.
Cockpit is added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140713125752.jpg)
Wings are modified (but need some additional work)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140713125742.jpg)
Hi Nonobar
so where is your 262 headed - looks like a 2-seat with just one seat installed - maybe jazz music in the back ?
Bernie
Quote from: dumaniac on July 14, 2014, 02:01:53 AM
Hi Nonobar
so where is your 262 headed - looks like a 2-seat with just one seat installed - maybe jazz music in the back ?
Bernie
It will be a one seater. Looks as if the Revell kit is also used for the double seater, but there are no cabin or cockpit parts of it included.
Love the camo on the Zero !
:tornado:
It's simply too warm here in Germany right now, so building models is no fun with >30° at the workbench...
So only slow process and some parts are stick together to testing:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140720181810.jpg)
Some more putty&sanding work is in progress right now and some coolers are besides the plane.
Quote from: nönöbär on July 20, 2014, 08:54:55 AM
It's simply too warm here in Germany right now, so building models is no fun with >30° at the workbench...
So only slow process and some parts are stick together to testing:
Same problem in the U.K.
Well then, go outside & enjoy the Summer! Breath fresh air, soak up the sunshine & come back to your man-caves refreshed & revitalised! :thumbsup:
Another small plane left the Flugwerft. This time its a quite special one (for me) - a Matchbox Hs 126. This kit was among the first that I build when I was a kid - so when I saw it on ebay again, I had to get it :)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140720181240.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140720181244.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140720181454.jpg)
Initially, I wanted to do a different camo on it, but due to some technical problems with the airbrush, I kept a plain sand color. So this one will be flying somewhere in North Africa I guess.
Now that's a nice 126 :thumbsup: Looks good in that nice simple scheme
I like the guy playing air guitar with the giant wrench !
The 262 looks pretty wild. Really changes the look of that bird and I bet it would have been fast !
The 126 looks great too. A neat aeroplane and a good one to 'fly' around the house.
:cheers:
After a quite busy week, at least a bit progress on the "what was a Me 262 at some point".
Its now ready for airbrushing and waits until there is some free space in the airbrush cabin which is still blocked by a ship.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140727191752.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140727191758.jpg)
Some additional air coolers have been added and so lets see how this will look like with some paint on it.
Now its painted, all parts attached, waiting for the decals and the final finish.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140803163414.jpg)
Nice! The slender nose with the prop looks nice!
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on August 03, 2014, 08:16:40 AM
Nice! The slender nose with the prop looks nice!
It does, doesn't it
Well, back from summer vacation, its now to start something new.
So here is what to use this time:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140906135514.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140906135536.jpg)
Oooh another Skyhawk ! Nice ! Look forward to seeing how you do this one. Love them old Matchbox kits !
:cheers:
Me 262 V1 looks good
Quote from: dumaniac on September 09, 2014, 02:15:34 AMMe 262 V1 looks good
Thanks!
But its no Me262V1, its a Avia S-96..... ;D
See the completed model here:
https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,39241.0.html (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,39241.0.html)
The first steps for the A4 are made, and the pilot has dressed to get into the plane:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140914180458.jpg)
But still quite a way to go.
The A4 has now returned from the paint shop and can now show its Marineflieger paint scheme:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140928173014.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140928173006.jpg)
Not so much left to add to the little plane, I have to see if I find the right decals for it.
Looking nice
What do you mask the canopy with please?
Ifor
Quote from: Ifor on September 28, 2014, 08:38:15 AM
What do you mask the canopy with please?
Ifor
I use Tamiya tape, put it on the canapoy and use a scalpel to cut it in the right shape. For plain windows - like the ones on airliners, I use Revell Color Stop.
Most of the paint job is now done and the Marineflieger A4 is now waiting for its decals.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141005112320.jpg)
Some bombs have been added under the wings.
Hi
Looks alredy sharp, even w/o markings. :thumbsup:
After the Marineflieger a4 has been completed, time to start something new.
Lets return to a WW2 What-If this time.
This is what to use (apart form some spare parts), two old Airfix Do 217 kits:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141011121006.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141011121206.jpg)
This will be a Dornier Do 218, a four engined variant of the Dornier 17-217 family.
Lets start with the cockpit - pretty basic in this old model, so I have to see how to improve this
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141012114610.jpg)
The Do 218 will have four engines, so the wings have to be upgraded. Interesting to see the different color of the two kits.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141012114754.jpg)
And this gives an impression how this plane might look like ...
Now that the wings got wider the whole plane must enlarged a bit.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20141012114626.jpg&hash=dc052e98ccf69daaef3563a96991f7e0edbec6c7)
great concept
A brill idea, that. :thumbsup:
The blue one is the earlier moulding, Airfix LOVED that colour styrene for some reason, but it got pretty brittle sometimes.
That's looking good already !
:cheers:
It's already starting to look like a real one.
The light blue plastic meant that as a kid I didn't have to paint the underneath.
While the Dornier bomber is still under heavy construction, a new plane left NöNö Bär's Flugwerft:
A Lufthansa Boeing 247. The German Lufthansa had two of those planes in the 1930s. So not really a What-If, but at least less known one.
The model is a 1:72 William Brothers kit. which seems to be pretty old. The quality was not that good and the resulting model - well I have made better ones ;D
Painted with Revel Aqua Color and decals are form the spare part box (I think from a Italieri Ju-52)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141018124712.jpg)
My complete Lufthansa 1930s collection so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141018125010.jpg)
Nice Boeing and collection :thumbsup:
Beauty. They all look great together ! Need to add floats and CDN regs. to them tho :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on October 18, 2014, 03:37:47 AM
The model is a 1:72 William Brothers kit. which seems to be pretty old. The quality was not that good and the resulting model - well I have made better ones ;D
It IS pretty old, yes, maybe 30 years old, maybe even more. But it's the only 247 kit there is AFAIK.
No matter how bad the kit you've done a great job on it, looks really smart, nice one. :thumbsup: :bow:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 18, 2014, 06:48:40 AM
Quote from: nönöbär on October 18, 2014, 03:37:47 AM
The model is a 1:72 William Brothers kit. which seems to be pretty old. The quality was not that good and the resulting model - well I have made better ones ;D
It IS pretty old, yes, maybe 30 years old, maybe even more. But it's the only 247 kit there is AFAIK.
No matter how bad the kit you've done a great job on it, looks really smart, nice one. :thumbsup: :bow:
I have built it around 1974 and it seemed a good kit to me. Still have it, BTW.
I like the Boing. You can see the family resemblance to the B17.
Work on the Do 218 continues.
The gap on the inner wings has been closed with some plastic sheets, next will be some putty & sanding here
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20141018125306.jpg&hash=4f54984fa07e37649a5fc6ef2e88630acfbc9d70)
The cockpit has been a bit "pimped" as it was pretty empty
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141018125352.jpg)
The fuselage has been cut into two parts - it will be made a bit longer. The parts show the idea how long it will be.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141018125420.jpg)
Most work was now invested in the wings, to fill the gap resulting from putting two wings together. So a lot of putty&sanding was required. Parts are just stick together for now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141026123940.jpg)
The hull is now cut in two parts, and first preparations to add an additional sections are done. Additionally, I started to work on some other parts which can be seen so far.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141026123954.jpg)
Now that's going to be a beauty !
:cheers:
I agree. I can't wait to see this one completed.
Cheers,
Logan
Thanks for your feedback so far ;D
I now came across a few things where I am nut 100% sure what to do:
1) What camo scheme? I could use a typical dark green/black green/light blue for it. But as it is a what-if, maybe to do something else
Maybe a dark gray/light gray/light blue this time? Or a pre-war green/brown/gray? Or something else.
I never succeeded to make a late war camo pattern with the airbrush so I would avoid to try this one
2) Should I add an additional machine gun on top on the new middle section?
3) Should I use a two ender tail with two side rudders like the original Do 217 or add a third one?
I would appreciate any good input on this!
My thoughts
1) I'd go with the pre war scheme. Always liked it.
2) I think another m.g. would work.
3) 2 ender tail as you say
:thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 27, 2014, 09:15:14 AM
My thoughts
1) I'd go with the pre war scheme. Always liked it.
2) I think another m.g. would work.
3) 2 ender tail as you say
:thumbsup:
I totally agree.
1- I also prefer the pre-war scheme on these airplanes
2- The more guns, the better! :wacko:
3- 2 ender tail looks better
But still, the dark/light grey and blue could also look good on such a bird.
Me too! :thumbsup:
1) that pre-war tri-colour camouflage that used to be one of colour schemes in the Airfix box
I think it was a lightish grey RLM63? And Brown RLM81 and a green with Helblau undersides.
2) one more machine gun can't hurt can it? :o
3) I like the idea of the twin fins (two ender) but maybe they would need to be increased in size
To take account of the extra engines? Or you could keep the original fin size and add one in the middle
Keeping the same shape as the outside ones.
Note Rule 1 applies
Regards
Keith
*rule 1 = it's my plane/train/boat/car etc etc and I'll do what I think I want....
Another paint scheme option - depending on the intended mission - could be the Luftwaffe's maritime (splinter) paint scheme in RLM 72/73 with RLM 65 undersides? Very murky colors, though, Fw 200 and He 115 carried it in the early WWII period.
My vote for the end plate fin solution, too, and I agree that the size/area should slightly be enlarged.
Well, thanks for the feedback.
So, it looks as if a pre-war color scheme is the way to go. Actually, this was my favorite, but I guess I have to re-think the story for the plane now. The time would now be more 1936 instead of 1941/42.
More guns - I knew it..... ;D
I found some nice parts in a Revell He 177, so I will use this as an additional gun position. Plus some remove controlled guns in the tail.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141028194341.jpg)
The hull is now enlarged (ok, this is the second attempt, the first one got wrong) with the new gun positions. Plus a drawing (wrong plane, I know) about a color scheme.
And I have to see how the tail&rudders can be made a bit bigger.
Love that painting....looks like a Halifax !
:cheers:
Two things to do on the Do218 right now:
The wings, mostly done now, and only some fine tuning is required. Only the inner engines will get the landing gear:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141102161244.jpg)
The enlarged hull with the additional gun position. A lot of putty and sanding is now required:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141102161330.jpg)
Everything put together - more or less - plus the enlarged tail:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141102161308.jpg)
This is coming along nicely :thumbsup:
Still a long way to go.....
Hull: Enlarged, done
Wings: Added to hull, done
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141109145554.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141109145606.jpg)
Now close all the gaps between hull and wings with putty & sand everything smoothly....
Sabotage!!!!
While I am in the final steps to smooth the connection between hull and wings, I had to find out that somebody has sabotaged the construction of the Do 218.
It seems that the front cockpit window is missing in one of the kits I use for the model. and in the other, all windows are missing :(
So I fear I have to see to find another of those old Airfix kits to get the missing part...
In the meantime, the plane is almost ready for getting the first layers of paint:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141116171638.jpg)
Oh that's a right pain - hope you find the parts
Oh, love what I see (and expect)... :wub:
Keep it up, that one looks very promising! :thumbsup:
Yor Aircraft looks very amazing. <_<
I wait for the color.
I'm not sure, but I have half a memory that there MIGHT be a Do.17 nose glazing in a box upstairs. i'll have a look later and if I'm right, you're welcome to it.
Regarding the missing cockpit window, I finally found another of those kits on ebay, so I hope it will arrive this week.
Unless then, the first layer of primer is put on the model to see there additional sanding work is requires. Luckiely there are only a few spots to work on.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141123174028.jpg)
This is going to look good :thumbsup:
Wow..is that ever looking the part now ! Great job.
:cheers:
Finally, today my ebay delivery arrived with a "new" Dornier 217 kit. And with some cockpit windows.
My best engineer started to check the parts and according to him, I can use the front window of this kit. It is the right one.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141125205714.jpg)
So I now can prepare the plane for painting.
;D ;D :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Airbrush time! Now everything is on place, so the five different colors can be added:
First color: A little bit of yellow:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141129175004.jpg)
Second color: Some light blue:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141129233020.jpg)
Waiting for third color.....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141130172758.jpg)
To be continued.....
That looks SO 'Lancaster'.
Der Lankaßter
It sure does ! Looks awesome tho. Going to be a real stunner.
PS-always good to have a competent engineer on hand :thumbsup:
The third color (light gray) has now been added ans masking for the next one has been added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141203213406.jpg)
The exciting moment is always when you remove all the masking and see if it has worked as expected....
Quote from: nönöbär on December 03, 2014, 11:29:48 AM
The exciting moment is always when you remove all the masking and see if it has worked as expected....
And if and when it has worked a huge sigh of relief :thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 04, 2014, 06:22:05 AMQuote from: nönöbär on December 03, 2014, 11:29:48 AMThe exciting moment is always when you remove all the masking and see if it has worked as expected....
And if and when it has worked a huge sigh of relief :thumbsup:
And not only once, the first reaction after removing all masking was "Oh s****".... :banghead:
Lets hope that it better this time.
So, the fourth color is on (dark green), the next masking is on and it is waiting for the last camo color
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141206125430.jpg)
Could you tell me what tape you're using please?
Quote from: Ifor on December 06, 2014, 04:40:19 AM
Could you tell me what tape you're using please?
It's Tamiya Masking Tape, you get it in different sizes, right now I have 6mm, 10mm and 18mm ones. Not the cheapest stuff, but quite good. And so far, I had no problems with removing the masking and remove the paint under it as well. You should get this on Ebay or Amazon in the UK (oar anywhere else)
Interesting and quite an attractive looking aircraft. How about a more developed version using a pair of Italeri Do 217K or M with the long span wings?
One other point. It really needs larger fins.
Yup have to admit I find Tamiya Tape the best I've tried :thumbsup:
Well, all camo colors are now painted and the masking is removed....
Didn't I say yesterday that Tamiya Tape never removed any paint when removing them. Ok, not this time :banghead:
So it was a "Oh s***" moment. And my engineer now has to think about something to get this all right again.
So, something has to be fixed for the camo:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141207170658.jpg)
I don't know if this idea is the best to fix it, as airbrushed colors always look a bit different than painted ones.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141207172638.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on December 07, 2014, 06:52:27 AM
I don't know if this idea is the best to fix it, as airbrushed colors always look a bit different than oainted ones.
Yes, I found that too, but your paint engineer looks as if he knows what he's doing. You'll be OK there. :thumbsup:
Quote from: The Wooksta! on December 06, 2014, 05:42:31 AM
One other point. It really needs larger fins.
If this is the Do 218A-1 Im sure larger fins will be seen as needed on the B model :D
Looks good ! Nice to see the hired hand hard at work. I need one of those ! Get everything ready before bedtime and wake up to a painted model ! lol
:cheers:
Looking good
Quote from: Martin H on December 07, 2014, 10:59:52 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on December 06, 2014, 05:42:31 AM
One other point. It really needs larger fins.
If this is the Do 218A-1 Im sure larger fins will be seen as needed on the B model :D
Somehow, this was the same idea, I had in mind ;D So lets say this is the A model, and the crews demanded some lager fins for better flight stability. Which were den added in the B model.
If you've the older Revell Condor kit (the 60s rivetty one) use the engines from that for this one - the Bramo 323s are earlier than the BMW801s and would fit a pre war aircraft better.
Alternately, Jumo 211 power eggs from the Ju 88 would be suitable.
Quote from: nönöbär on December 08, 2014, 08:00:07 AM
... the crews demanded some lager fins for better flight stability ...
I don't know, man!? :blink:
I have this strange feeling that "lager fins" are going to have the opposite effect on stability. :cheers: :drink: :tornado:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Still fixing the issues cause by the masking tape. I hope with the glossy finish on it (before putting on the decals), the different color shades will not be so strong anymore.
So besides correcting the camo, I concentrated on the additional stuff to be added. Like engines, wheels etc.
At least two of the engines are now added, the rest will follow soon.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141214193440.jpg)
It's coming along really well, i like the look of that beast! :wacko:
:cheers:
This is really looking very good :bow:
Looking good ! Nice to see the bits and the way you are adding them.
Sorry the lager fins comment was originally lost on me....that exchange was too funny !
:cheers: :party: :drink:
With lager fins, it would probably fly in around in 8s... ;D
While my engineer is getting a bit panic as he has some real trouble with the Do 218 landing gear (pics will follow), the last plane for this year leaves NöNö Bärs Flugwerft. A Czech MiG 17.
This is a KP Model 1/72 scale kit, pretty simple, but quite ok to build. This time I tried to build it with an open cockpit. The model is painted with Revel Aqua Color, using the original decals (which are not the best anymore, but this is a quite old kit)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164118.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164146.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164202.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164238.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164252.jpg)
A group of MiGs, MiG 15, MiG 17 and MiG 21:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164532.jpg)
The Czech Airforce collection:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221164626.jpg)
Sorry to hear about the poor engineers stress levels !
The Mig is looking good. I like the little dio. The group shots are nice as well. Always a treat to see related a/c together to get a feel for their size, commonality differences etc.
Returning to the Do 218, the big issue now is the landing gear. Every time, the right one collapses. If this would be a Ju 290 I would say this is normal, as they had many right landing gear problems, but hey, this is a Dornier.
So the latest attempt to fix it looks like this:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221163746.jpg)
I asked my engineer and he thought that adding a stronger folding mechanism to the gears might help. So lets see if he is right.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141221163804.jpg)
Quote from: Captain Canada on December 21, 2014, 08:34:04 AM
Sorry to hear about the poor engineers stress levels !
The Mig is looking good. I like the little dio.
Me to. It really sets the model off nicely :thumbsup:
As for stress the engineer seems to be nice and relaxed to me ;D
Before NöNö Bärs Flugwerft will close its doors for this year, my engineer was finally successful and the Do 218 is now standing on its own wheels. All guns, cockpit windows etc are added, it is now waiting for a cover of finish, decals and the final finish all over.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141223165426.jpg)
My engineer - btw his name is Scratch Bear - has prepared the tree and is relaxing for the rest of the year so he can help me again next year, with new projects to come.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20141223165742.jpg)
So, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !
Very cool project!
Steven L :party:
That looks better with every new pic, terrific work. By both of you............ ;D :thumbsup: :bow:
Back from the winter vacation, my engineer and I are in the final works of the Do 218....
Decals, engine exhaust traces are done, only a few little things to do until the Dornier bomber is completed.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150111163622.jpg)
I just hope that the cockpit windows are ok when I remove the masking tape there...
This gets better and better
Fabulous !
I must admit that apart from liking this model and the camo scheme I keep expecting to pick up my copy of Luftwaffe Secret Projects and finding it in there. It looks so right
It sure does Chris !
To use a gym meme, it kinda looks like a Lancaster that forgot to do leg day :thumbsup:
Love it. I hope the canopy masking comes off good as well.....no delays now !
:cheers:
Quote from: Captain Canada on January 13, 2015, 04:45:18 AM
Love it. I hope the canopy masking comes off good as well.....no delays now !
Thanks :cheers:
Well, the masking is now removed and looks ok - but I wonder what happend to the little antenna on the front nose that was still there last year. Somehow it disappeared. So this has to be fixed with a spare part and then its done.... at least I hope so :)
Blame the engineer :thumbsup:
Now that the Do 218 has been completed, time to start something new.
This time, it should be something with less putty and sanding, so here is the start of it:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150118114134.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150118114120.jpg)
Nice work so far. The giant waffle maker in the back seat will come in handy on those long morning flights :thumbsup:
Quote from: Captain Canada on January 18, 2015, 06:06:28 AM
Nice work so far. The giant waffle maker in the back seat will come in handy on those long morning flights :thumbsup:
Oh no, did I add the wrong part? It should be a sushi tray for 9 different kind of sushis.... ;D
Quote from: nönöbär on January 18, 2015, 06:38:54 AM
Quote from: Captain Canada on January 18, 2015, 06:06:28 AM
Nice work so far. The giant waffle maker in the back seat will come in handy on those long morning flights :thumbsup:
Oh no, did I add the wrong part? It should be a sushi tray for 9 different kind of sushis.... ;D
;D ;D
Quote from: nönöbär on January 18, 2015, 06:38:54 AM
Oh no, did I add the wrong part? It should be a sushi tray for 9 different kind of sushis.... ;D
Oops...I never thought of the asian persuasion regarding food preferance, but I do believe you are correct !
:thumbsup:
The Mitsubishi 87G2 gets some shape now. And I guess the origins of this one get clear now
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150125200016.jpg).
Its getting close to be send to the paint shop...
Everything proceeds fine with the Mitsubishi 87G2 ...
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0200.jpg)
... until i found out that one of the landing legs is missing :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
So I have to get another Stuka kit to get this plane some wheels.
Oh that is a pain, she's looking very good
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 01, 2015, 07:41:33 AM
Oh that is a pain, she's looking very good
What Chris said! :banghead: :thumbsup:
Sorry to hear about the missing leg, but wow that is looking good !
:wub:
Sometimes, buying at Ebay ist fast. Found a Revell Stuka there on Saturday, bought it for 3€ and it is delivered now. So new landing gears. Ok, they do not fit 100%, but I guess my engineer will find a solution for it.... ;) Work can continue.
My engineer is working hard to fix the landing gear issue of the Mitsubishi 87G2 ...
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150208180112.jpg)
The first tests look good, so I think he can continue with this.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on February 08, 2015, 07:57:16 AM
My engineer is working hard to fix the landing gear issue of the Mitsubishi 87G2 ...
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20150208180112.jpg&hash=61bb7b9b106c4c8c45705e7989fc02371fa83824)
The first tests look good, so I think he can continue with this.
:lol: Your engineer is using a soft touch I see.
Looking good
He's also sniffing out any problems ;D
Looks like he's got it licked...
Well, I don't know if he was licking or sniffing, but he fixed it. So the plane can go into the paintshot. Anyway, I guess I have to talk with him.... ;D
Smells right to me ! lol
:cheers:
As its carnival time here in Cologne right now, I guess I have to close NöNö Bärs Flugwerft until next week. All the staff - including my engineer - is away to party. Hope the little bear will not drink too much beer and gets sone strange ideas for new models ;D
While the Mitsubishi is in its final stage of production, another plane leaves NöNö Bärs Flugwerft:
A Gotha Go 244. Developed form the Gotha Go 242 glider, the Go 244 was equipped with two 740hp Gnôme-Rhône-engines - and it was quite a failure. The engines were barley able to keep the empty plane in the air, not very useful for a transport aircraft. Therefore most of the 230+ planes build were "refitted" as gilders again.
I always wanted to build a twin-boom plane, and as the Gotha is quite small compared to other aircraft with this layout, I choose this one.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150216182106.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150216182138.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150216182220.jpg)
The model is a 17/2 Italieri kit build OOB and airbrushed with Revel Aqua Colors.
I like the look of that, excellent work there. :thumbsup: :bow:
I didn't even know Italeri did that kit, or anyone else for that matter. Hmmm, how about re-engining one with DB 601s?
Beauty. Love the colours. Very well done...nice and clean !
:cheers:
A beautiful job and very nice looking plane. Got my eye on that fuselage.... ;D.
Very nice work indeed!! :thumbsup:
:cheers:
Thanks!
Sadly, I made an error building the model, and now the rear cargo door cannot be opened correctly. You can open it, but then it does not hold in open position. Have to see if this can be fixed.
Cool.
That looks really good, particularly like the colour scheme
Looks so clean...!
After a break, a (non WhatIf) leaves the Flugwerft:
A Czech MiG 19. This is another KP models Kit, quite basic and from the instructions so can see its age. Build OOB, the decals are not the best anymore.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150523173242.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150523173314.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150523173340.jpg)
The little - and growing - Mig collection:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150523173416.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150523173548.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150523173606.jpg)
Now that the Flugwerft is empty again, the next What-If is about to start soon.
I've got a couple of those KP Mig 19s.
Amazingly all the myriad intakes you can see on nönöbär's model are separate parts and need to be glued in position as the build progresses! :o
Yes, EVERY air scoop is a separate piece. But it's a "honest" solution, the kit is actually pretty good, despite the raised panels and rivets.
Nice. So thats 15, 17 & 19? A 21 next?
That's a nice trio! :thumbsup: I believe that ZTS Plastyk boxes these kits, right? Your Mig-19 looks just like the kit i have. I've always liked the mig family and bought the 17,19,and 21 from that brand as they were really cheap here in Portugal, 6€ each. I couldn't find a cheap 15 so bought the Eduard profi-pack for 15€ although i'm not a profi-modeler... ;D
Nice work and a nice little dio to display it. Love the colour combo. Great little family pic too, can really see the resemblance in them !
:cheers:
Thanks :thumbsup:
@Dizzyfugu: Yes, all those little air intakes. But all of those KP kits I made so far, on all of them, the nose air intake dod not fit at all. Some brute force was needed all the time.
@zenrat: I already made a Czech Mig21, its here http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,35312.60.html (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,35312.60.html). But the next in the "MiG Collection" will be a MiG 9
Time to start another what-if plane. This one will be a paint job again.
So this is the thing to start with
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150604181427.jpg)
The classic three-color kit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150604181410.jpg)
One of the best box top paintings ever ! Looking forward to seeing this progress.
:cheers:
And of the most disappointing. Can you imagine how sad I was when I bought this one as a kid that NONE of all this dozen of 1.000 lb.bombs was included...? :-\
Looking forward to see what becomes of it! A Marineflieger, perhaps :rolleyes: - the aircraft they actually had wanted instead of the F-104G (beside the Viggen, of course).
We should have a Matchbox paint it like the plastic colours GB.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 06, 2015, 11:44:37 AM
And of the most disappointing. Can you imagine how sad I was when I bought this one as a kid that NONE of all this dozen of 1.000 lb.bombs was included...? :-\
Looking forward to see what becomes of it! A Marineflieger, perhaps :rolleyes: - the aircraft they actually had wanted instead of the F-104G (beside the Viggen, of course).
Marineflieger - right guess, there are still a few planes missing for my Graf Zepplein Air Wing.
And I can tell you - I was really sad when I opened the box a few days ago and saw that non of those 1.000 lb bombs were included...... :(
Guess I have to see what the spare part box gives.
Quote from: Flyer on June 07, 2015, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 06, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
We should have a Matchbox paint it like the plastic colours GB.
OOB Matchbox GB, no paint. ;D
Hm, I could print some REALLY big decals? ;D
Wow, this plane is big compared to other 1/72 scale ones.
To start with, we need some pilots:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150607102224.jpg)
And it will get a very special three color camo painting.....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150607184104.jpg)
... of course not!
Anyway, funny to see it in those different colors.
Quote from: Flyer on June 07, 2015, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 06, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
We should have a Matchbox paint it like the plastic colours GB.
OOB Matchbox GB, no paint. ;D
Or even better: take a kit of a different scale and
simulate an OOB 1:72 Matchbox kit!
Check this here... subtle!
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959586-109-as-matchbox-intended/
Quote from: nönöbär on June 07, 2015, 09:32:15 AM
Wow, this plane is big compared to other 1/72 scale ones.
If you think a Buccaneer is BIG take a look at the B-36 Crop duster (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,40686.0.html)
Gondor
Ya that is kind of silly to show it with all those bombs and then not give you the option.... :blink:
Quote from: Captain Canada on June 09, 2015, 02:30:22 PM
Ya that is kind of silly to show it with all those bombs and then not give you the option.... :blink:
Booo! Kids WANT bombs, lots of 'em. ;D
Poor marketing.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 09, 2015, 08:33:02 AM
Quote from: Flyer on June 07, 2015, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 06, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
We should have a Matchbox paint it like the plastic colours GB.
OOB Matchbox GB, no paint. ;D
Or even better: take a kit of a different scale and simulate an OOB 1:72 Matchbox kit!
Check this here... subtle!
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959586-109-as-matchbox-intended/
Or even better use a kit that Matchbox never produced and paint each sprue a different colour then build it out of the box ;D That could really confuse the JMN's ;D
Gondor
Or don't build it at all - just the (colored) sprues and a fake packaging next to them. ;D
Something like this, just with appropriate parts... :wacko:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi626.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt343%2Fdrtemplar%2Fflycatcherbox.jpg&hash=7e6ceb3284579d5aa70b0b4d60e299f7108ccf6d)
Which reminds me of the time that Hasegawa were just about to release their I-16.
I was at a Twin Cities Aero Historians meeting that week and three of us got an old Revell I-16, cut all the parts off the sprues and glued them onto a Hasegawa sprue, from a P-40 I think. Then we sprayed it all grey, put it in a plastic bag and took it to the meeting as a 'pre-production sample'. ;D ;) :lol:
MUCH hilarity followed as the resident JMNs picked up all the 'errors' in it. We only just got out of there without being lynched. ;D
I think I still have the 'kit' somewhere too, I'll have to look it out.
LOL! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 10, 2015, 03:12:08 AM
Or don't build it at all - just the (colored) sprues and a fake packaging next to them. ;D
Something like this, just with appropriate parts... :wacko:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi626.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt343%2Fdrtemplar%2Fflycatcherbox.jpg&hash=7e6ceb3284579d5aa70b0b4d60e299f7108ccf6d)
You could sell that for a FORTUNE on ebay! ;D :lol:
Oh, I see so many people with evil ideas here...... I like it ! ;D ;D ;D
As I was away whole week, not much done was made, but at least the first colors has been brushed - white:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150621174400.jpg)
Luckily I have a spare airbrush, as the replacement parts after my USS King disaster have not arrived yet.
Looking good !
Now all colors are painted, just some minor corrections are required:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150628181834.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150628181846.jpg)
I also received some decals for a Marineflieger Starfighter, so they should fit quite well.
Gorgeous. This is going to be one good looking Bucc !
:cheers:
Those classic NATO colors suit the Bucc very well! :thumbsup:
Yep, those colors suit this one very well! :thumbsup: And i can imagine it in German markings... :wub: :thumbsup:
Well, 37° Celsius is simply too hot for scale building. Paint is drying on the brush in a few moments.
All parts are added to the Buccaneer, waiting for its decals now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/DSC_0222.jpg)
Time to start something new:
This time, a quite old Lindberg Dornier Do 335 model will be the start. I got this one on ebay for a few € a while ago and when opening the box, I saw that it was already started. :(
Well, as its a quite simple kit, it does not hurt to use this as the starting point for a modified version of the do 335 - the Do 335 TL.
So there is what to use:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150711123102.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150711123152.jpg)
Now that kit brings some memories back. :thumbsup:
Love those old kits like that....looks like it was just removed from the sprues ?
Quote from: Captain Canada on July 12, 2015, 07:56:59 AM
Love those old kits like that....looks like it was just removed from the sprues ?
Well, all the green parts were in the box this way. And some of them - like the wings - were already painted in some kind of horrible blue in the inside....Luckiely this will not be visible in the finished model.
The gray parts will be used for the conversion that I have in mind (need some other stuff fomr the spare parts box as well).
As this is a quite simple kit, most parts are added now:
Wings, a bit updated cockpit, jet engine and jet air intakes:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150718155720.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150718155728.jpg)
Main paint jobs are done for the Do 335 TL, now the smaller details have to be added.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150726164026.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150726164036.jpg)
I wonder about the air intakes, if I should dive the forward part some kind of different colour, maybe Aluminum or Metal?
Hard to say....looks good just the way it is ! But that is up to you. Great job on the paint.
:cheers:
Yup, looking very neat :thumbsup:
The last report form the Flugwerft before my engineer and I will leave for our Canada-vacation.
Everything is painted now and is waiting for the decals:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150802142906.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150802142914.jpg)
Work in the Flugwerft will continue in September and maybe my engineer gets some inspirations while traveling in the wild areas of Vancouver Island ;)
Enjoy Vancouver Island - beautiful place
A "true" jet Do-335 was designed acording to Historians: the Do-435, with a Unicraft 1/72 model of it, see http://www.blackbirdmodels.co.uk/dornier-do435-conv-72-543-p.asp
I like your one too :thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 03, 2015, 06:46:59 AM
Enjoy Vancouver Island - beautiful place
Thanks, maybe I find some inspiration there for another What-If :)
Now that I am back from Canada - which was great - I returned with an inspiration for some What-If project. Floatplanes :)
Saw a lot of them there and even the Martin Mars (which is huge!) and now I have to see what kind of what-if will be made from this.
In the meantime, the do 335 TL is completed, I will start something new which is mainly based on this one:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150913092314.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150913092402.jpg)
I think the spats make up most of the plastic in that box...
Quote from: zenrat on September 13, 2015, 03:14:14 AM
I think the spats make up most of the plastic in that box...
This is all. So I guess building will not be too complicated and I will not get lost in hundreds of parts :)
I remember building that when it first came out. It's quite strange to compare the contents of that box with that of the new tool Kate. My how things have changed :rolleyes:
Yes those are some big ol' boots ! I'll have to keep an eye out for this kit never built one.
:cheers:
The little Val is growing.
Not the best kit, parts fit not so good. So sanding and putty is required.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20150920130626.jpg)
No wonder the boots were so big.....the whole darn thing is big !
:thumbsup:
Some more work on the Val, the first color is airbrushed:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151004172316.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Nice ! I'm going to pick one up when my LHS gets them in.
:thumbsup:
Most of the painting is done now, and thew Val is waiting for its decals:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151011150546.jpg)
Lovely. The colours look excellent so far.
:thumbsup:
Elegant with these spats... :thumbsup:
Cannot help it, but in these colors the Val looks very Italian to me...? Add some brown mottle and Italian markings, and it would be a very convincing whif, IMHO. :blink:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on October 11, 2015, 11:36:43 PM
Cannot help it, but in these colors the Val looks very Italian to me...? Add some brown mottle and Italian markings, and it would be a very convincing whif, IMHO. :blink:
I know what you mean Its the curves that do it without the splinter camo. it doesn't have the Germanic feel to it as yet with no straight edges
While the Val is done and the next what-if is ready to go, here something else that is completed in NöNö Bärs Flugwerft:
A MiG-9, the model is a 1/72 MPM short-run kit. Quality of the kit was not so good, especially the tail of the plane was completely asymmetrical.
Therefore, I used it as a test-bed to try some techniques to make the plane look "used".
Sadly i put not enough weight to the nose, so I had to build a small "support" at the tail .... ;D
Here are some pics:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhttps%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20151018130454.jpg&hash=6d627fdff6b6cbbf69f0c6091b3882e14d4aad56)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151018130502.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151018130540.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151018130612.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151018130622.jpg)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20151018130630.jpg&hash=dd047038e5015bb028be117e0990ec9800607644)
Nice work, looks really good on the base
:thumbsup: :cheers:
Time to start something new, just a little project as I am waiting for some stuff to arrive for the next What-If.
So here to go with this one:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151011150740.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151011150806.jpg)
Obviously, this is a Me 262, which will be lightly modified and with a different paint job.
As it only consists of few parts, things come together quite fast
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151025140140.jpg)
Mostly painted, it looks like a - surprise, surprise - Me 262 (but with a different paint scheme)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151101160302.jpg)
Now lets add the additional parts to it....
Looking good! :thumbsup:
Loogs good your Me :thumbsup:
Oh that is going to be cool ! Love the Mig-9 dio as well. Great solution to the tail sit :thumbsup:
While the Messerschmitt is waiting for its decals, something else left NöNö Bärs Flugwerft:
A Kyushu J7W1, painted in the classic Japanese Navy colors. I know, that this one has to be green, but as I like this color scheme, I made it this way.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151108135502.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151108135514.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151108135530.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151108135546.jpg)
It's a 1/72 scale Hasegawa kit, not too much parts and build OOB. Airbrushed with Revel Aqua Colors, using the original decals.
Oh my. That looks wonderfull in that scheme
Nice model :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on November 08, 2015, 04:32:04 AM
I know, that this one has to be green, but as I like this color scheme, I made it this way.
When Realist Historians say "has to be" (or "must be"), we what-ifers do the opposite always, this is more funny... ;D
Very nice ! Looks like she'd going to fight in the snow ! love the way the engine looks with those colours and the prop.
:drink:
This summer, I was on vacation to Canda. To Vancouver Island. And my impression was - WOW, Floatplanes! A lot of them.
So its time to build a float plane model. But of course a What-If. So I checked my spare models pile and came up with this one:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151108135942.jpg)
Which of course is no float plane.
But with some extra parts, it might get one:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151108140026.jpg)
So here is what there is so far:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20151115142322.jpg&hash=24f7961858adb612cb3e4c0ade8e40a7db75ea5d)
And we do not need wheels, we need floats:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151115142444.jpg)
And of course, it should be something Candian....
Wait till Captain Canada sees this! LOL! Interesting Choice, nonobar!
The first paint has been added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151122190420.jpg)
Now that this has been done, I can concentrate on the floats of this thing....
Intriguing
Not much time this week, but at least some preparations for the floats are added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151129215222.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151129215228.jpg)
With its floats added, the Canadair CL-87F waits to be painted now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151206121404.jpg)
The W wing seems 'logical' with those twin-floats, thanks for this 'explanation' of the -87 design ;D
Painted, the CL-87F looks better now. A few smaller parts are missing and then I can add the decals to it:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151213151538.jpg)
Great work
My engineer now has closed the Flugwerft and prepares himself for the holidays.
Before he left, he made a a last photo of the recent project which is almost competed now, more of this will follow in a few days.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151224131316.jpg)
Until then, the Scratch Bear and I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy Ney Year to everyone!
Have a good one :thumbsup:
Merry Christmas ! Cute pic too.
:wub:
My engineer found something that is just about to start. A little project based on a very simple kit which is not so complicated in count all the parts:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151227115712.jpg)
So, I guess the base model is known, lets see what my engineer has thought to build from it.
My engineer seems to be very eager to build this one, so he interrupted his vacation and came back. After studying the instructions he began to add the first paint to it:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20151230103336.jpg)
Seems as if he has modified his working place a bit. More and different paint will follow....
hes an industrious little fellow that's for certain !
looking good so far
A new project for the new year. And after all this military stuff, lets begin with something more peaceful now.
The kit to start with is the following.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160102133236.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160102133352.jpg)
The What-If is very loosely based on a book and this is mainly used as a test for another project I have in mind. As the kit only has very few parts, most is put together already. However, now a lot of sanding and putty is required.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160110125230.jpg)
First painting work has already made on it.
That's a real vintage kit.
Such a pity they moulded it in an odd scale, but it was in the era of 'fit the box' models.
Wow....looking good so far ! Such a sleek and sexy bird :wub: :cheers:
After a lot of putty and sanding, the plane now is very....black:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160117175004.jpg)
It won't stay this way, now masking is the next job
While there is no progress with the D*** 880, another little planes has left the Flugwerft:
A Hispano Aviación HA-220, a Spanish Ground attack aircraft based on the Hispano Aviación HA-200. This plane first flew in 1955 and was designed by Willy Messerschmitt. Most of the planes were used by the Spanish Airforce until the early 1980s. A few were exported to the UAE and today about 20 of the ~100 planes build are still in flying condition.
The model shows the HA-220 in Spanish services in 1975.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124135822.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124135836.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124135850.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124135904.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124135930.jpg)
The model is a 1:72 kit from Speical Hobby. It contains several additional PE and resin parts and was quite good to build (altough I do not like the way how the wings are attached). Air brushed with Revel Aqua Color, the kit is build OOB and uses the original decals.
Looking good
Ah, an I forgeot: Again, I did not add enough weight to the nose, so I had to build something form the spare parts box to support the tail.... :banghead:
Now that the Carnival days are over (and a lot of beer consumed during those days), the Flugwerft opens its doors and releases a little plane: A Henschel Hs 123 ground attack plane in colors of the Spanish Civl War:
It's preparing for take off on a airfield somewhere in Spain.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160131141116.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160131141302.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160131141318.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160131141336.jpg)
This is an old Airfix model in 1/72 but despite of its age, it was quite good to build. Make OOB, it was painted with Revell Aqua Color, using the original decals.
That's nice. Good job.
Yup nice build. I built that kit a year or so ago and really enjoyed it despite it's age.
Must admit I do like that pre War 3 colour splinter :thumbsup:
nice diorama
nice Henschel
Missed the last couple of updates. Great stuff. Love the way you painted the 880, came out perfectly.
The 220 looks great as well. I've always had a thing for straight wings and tip tanks.
The Henschel looks great as well. Love the little dio really suits her.
:cheers: :bow:
And now to something completely different..... as Monthy Python would have said.
The next project is the Northrop RF-62 Megasnark - based on the SM-62 Snark:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124140056.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160124140132.jpg)
Additional things to use here are the spare parts box and a Heller P51.
Quote from: nönöbär on February 16, 2016, 02:56:39 AM
Additional things to use here are the spare parts box and a Heller P51.
.....and a LOT of primer to cover up that
RED styrene!
We're seeing a few of these kits being built on here at the moment for some reason ? Looking forward to what you do with it
Mega, eh ? Interesting !
:cheers:
@Captain Canada: Megasnark is always better than a simply Snark.... ;D
So, here we go:
The RF-62 itself, with a hole in the top front:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160214161800.jpg)
This will be the working place of the Snark-Rider:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160214161812.jpg)
The Snark-Launcher:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160214161732.jpg)
Work goes on with the Megasnark. A lot of putty and sanding was required this time.
The RF-62 itself, cockpit has been added and everything put on the launcher for a test
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160228133242.jpg)
Close up of the cockpit
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160228133246.jpg)
I love it. Very sexy 'aeroplane' !
:cheers:
Now looks very different. Got a look of the F.105's long lost cousin about it :thumbsup:
After a small break - and with new glasses ;D - work continues on the Megasnark. First color check to see if any parts need some more sanding.
With cockpit window on, it looks a bit like a F/A-18. Interesting as this is a P51 cockpit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160313204346.jpg)
My engineer makes some tests on the launch pad:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160313204434.jpg)
Looking mega good ! I hope that bear has soft paws :thumbsup:
Needs a long ladder from the ground to the cockpit! Like it!
I'm starting to suspect that the bear is the real brains behind this operation and nonobar just takes the pictures and does the typing.
Looking good Chief.
Quote from: zenrat on March 14, 2016, 02:09:30 AM
I'm starting to suspect that the bear is the real brains behind this operation and nonobar just takes the pictures and does the typing.
Looking good Chief.
Oh, I guess you got me..... ;D ;D ;D
The P-51 canopy looks weird :blink: & nice :wub: on this jet model :thumbsup:
The Megasnark is now painted and all parts are put together (I know, its pretty dark....but not black)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160320194938.jpg)
Upside-Down: The start boosters and the recon pod under the nose are visible
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160320194950.jpg)
It's now waiting for its decals so that it can be put on the launch pad.
While my engineer is thinking about some other What-If projects, lets build something small until he comes up with a new idea.
This is what I want to use this time, an 1/72 scale Airfix Saab Draken:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160326162238.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160326150331.jpg)
A quite simple kit (and when building it, I got some more ideas, I guess i have to get another one of those models), but painting caused some problems after removing the masking:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160403195716.jpg)
Therefore some additional paint work is required.
I'd forgotten Airfix did a Draken.
Certainly has a low parts count.
Love it in that camo !
:wub: :cheers: :party: :bow:
Is it a local problem of my browser or somthing general - I cannot see any picture under this thread anymore? :blink:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on April 04, 2016, 05:53:50 AM
Is it a local problem of my browser or somthing general - I cannot see any picture under this thread anymore? :blink:
Everything ok here...
Quote from: zenrat on April 04, 2016, 03:44:50 AM
Certainly has a low parts count.
Ah but when it came out we thought it was a normal parts count or even a high one :blink: Nowadays I do think some kits are broken down just to get the parts count up for the magazine reviews. If it increases the accuracy without unduly complicating the build fine, if not then it's a p.i.a.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on April 04, 2016, 05:53:50 AM
Is it a local problem of my browser or somthing general - I cannot see any picture under this thread anymore? :blink:
Hmm, I see the pics and they are still on my server as well. Looks like one of those nice brower issues again.... Or is www.german-navy.de blocked on your side?
Strangely, the pics are visible again for me!? The Norm '72 Draken looks good, very natural.
Quote from: NARSES2 on April 04, 2016, 06:59:00 AM
Quote from: zenrat on April 04, 2016, 03:44:50 AM
Certainly has a low parts count.
Ah but when it came out we thought it was a normal parts count or even a high one :blink: Nowadays I do think some kits are broken down just to get the parts count up for the magazine reviews. If it increases the accuracy without unduly complicating the build fine, if not then it's a p.i.a.
Oh that wasn't a complaint. I quite like low parts count kits as long as they fit good (he said using his besets grammer).
They are good for knocking up a quick build when you're getting a bit sick of putting together parts that were never meant to go together that have to be beaten into place and then smoothed with 3 or 4 tubes of putty.
Quote from: zenrat on April 05, 2016, 02:05:10 AM
Oh that wasn't a complaint.
Didn't take it as one ;D
The older models are sometimes not so bad. Even if they have less parts than modern ones.
This kit here is really quite good, it fits very well, I have seen worse in more modern kits.
Now, all the paint jobs have been done, a few smaller parts are missing before getting the decals:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160410120242.jpg)
While I still need a few parts for the next project, something small in the meantime:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160417104542.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160417104539.jpg)
This will be a Betty in Luftwaffe colors. As its a small model (1/144 scale), only few parts have to be build.
So here it is after the hull has been put together and first sanding:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160424165206.jpg)
Fun little kit, built one to be destroyed by my 1/144 P-38s, lol!
Quote from: nighthunter on April 24, 2016, 09:45:17 PM
Fun little kit, built one to be destroyed by my 1/144 P-38s, lol!
Did you had a little 1/144 scale Yamamoto on board ? :)
After some delay, the Betty is coming closer to completion. Paint job is done, it is now waiting for the decals.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160527135704.jpg)
Ah, and the transparent parts are still missing. Making all the masking is quite a pain in 1/144 scale, as the Betty had very segmented windows. But I am working on this....
To start something new - although I do not know if this will completed at all, but I will try.
So here is what to use (other parts will be required as well):
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160604095148.jpg)
And this is inside:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160604095232.jpg)
So the base model will be the Dornier, with usage of some parts of the A-10.
More to come...
Are the black square items computer fans? :blink:
Quote from: loupgarou on June 06, 2016, 02:51:26 PM
Are the black square items computer fans? :blink:
Yes, this is the part "I do not know if this will completed at all" in my initial post.... ;D
Ooooh, tilt fan?
Everything has to start with something, so we have the interior with the pilots:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160612100302.jpg)
The craft will be a two seater only, therefore the backseats will not be added.
Further, all hull windows will be closed, so a putty&sanding is required:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160612100312.jpg)
At the back of the plane, the hull is opened on the top, something will be added here.
Oh, the Do 28 + A-10 combination has potential. I have a bash of these also on the project list, but apparently in a different layout than yours. ;)
Looking forwards to see what becomes of this one!
Some last pics before NöNöBär closes his Flugwerft and starts his summer vacation to Britain.
Crew is now in place:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160618133758.jpg)
The GCC D28 needs some propulsion and this is where the A-10 parts join the game:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160618133658.jpg)
I now understand where you are going with this :thumbsup:
Enjoy your vacation.
Cool. :thumbsup:
That's going to be SOME power/weight ratio! :o
STOL won't be in it, more like VTOL!
Back from Britain, my engineer and I could continue the work on the Skyguard:
Side pods added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160717124442.jpg)
It will later be used for the landing gear and most likely the armament
Rear engine mounts are added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160717124454.jpg)
But still something essential is missing. More next time....
Finally..... Most stuff is now in place:
Fans added to the side of the D28, additional smaller parts added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160724133134.jpg)
Lower side: Landing gear is still missing, the same for armament.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160724133124.jpg)
Next will be a visit to the paint shop.
Love it.
:thumbsup:
Is that ever cool. Great idea and usage of parts !
:cheers:
I think I've got my head around it ? The paintwork will bring it together :thumbsup:
Wild. You plan to power the computer fans?
Quote from: loupgarou on July 24, 2016, 06:32:37 AM
Wild. You plan to power the computer fans?
No, they will not be powered as they need 12V. I tried if they run at 3V as well (then I could have used some batteries), but they did not.
Nice idea! :thumbsup:
Everything is in place now and waiting for the paint job
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160806154150.jpg)
Landing gear is also done, but will be added once the D28 is painted.
Looks good! :thumbsup: :wub:
It sure is. Great stuff.
:thumbsup:
A big step forward: The D28 is now painted, now all the detail work starts.
Landing gear has been added as well, so now it is standing on its own wheels:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160814145002.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160814145014.jpg)
Have to see if some more colors should be added.
Now I get it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Wonderful model! So unusual so nice! :wub: :thumbsup: ;D
That looks way better than I thought it would. What a coat of paint can do eh ! Excellent stuff.
Sometimes, you start to build a model and you do not know that it ends as a What-If....
So I started a Saab 29 and while I wanted to build it in its original Swedish markings, the idea came up to make it a bit different.
To make a Swiss Saab J29CH 'Tönnli' :)
So here we go, the original Revell (Matchbox) model:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160806145821.jpg)
And what we have so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160903165302.jpg)
Nice ! I've been wanting to build another one ever since someone posted all those pics of the funky whifs
The "Tönnli" now starts to look Swiss:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160911125318.jpg)
A few more decals missing.....
That's gorgeous ! Love the colour combo with those markings. Excellent work.
:thumbsup:
That does look good
I concur with the honrable member for Croydon North.
That scheme works well on the J29. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Lets start with something new form the 60s:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160828134046.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160828134114.jpg)
This should be build in Luftwaffe Norm 72 colors:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20160925143210.jpg)
Interesting idea, looking forward to it
The Rf-101 is now able to stand on its wheels:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161002170332.jpg)
Air breaks and Cockpit will be build open.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
A friend of mine built a similar Norm'72 Voodoo - but as a single-seat fighter:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5471/10887342004_0ae1b786b1_b.jpg)
Looks gorgeous, IMHO. :wub:
I may be missing something, but doesn't that have two seats?
It's certainly got two ladders.
I looks very good though.
Ah, no, mistake of mine - it's a two-seater, as an F-4F alternative. Mea culpa. :angel:
Looking good so far ! Love the Voodoo and that camo. One would look good in the later hemp scheme or whatever they called it on the F-4.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on October 04, 2016, 11:57:35 PM
Ah, no, mistake of mine - it's a two-seater, as an F-4F alternative. Mea culpa. :angel:
That's all right Dizz, I forgive you. ;D
Almost everything is in place now, finish and decals are missing. Cockpit cupola will be added later as it will made open:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161009122448.jpg)
In different to the one Dizzy showed, mine will be a recon version.
Starting with the decals now, the completion is not too far away....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161016144114.jpg)
Looking good! :thumbsup:
That looks really good!
that voodoo is level over 9000 (that reminds me of a specific F-8G that i posted in arc several years back ) i love everything in Luftwaffe colors
Time to start something new.
So this is what I use for it:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161023145024.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161023145110.jpg)
Right now, the cockpit has been made:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161030171130.jpg)
And the hull has been put together:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161106165720.jpg)
M for Marine ?
There was a real navalized Ju 87... But why not add a fictional one?
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 06, 2016, 06:44:37 AM
M for Marine ?
Yes, I still need a Ju87 for my Graf Zeppelin air wing.... :)
Love love love that Voodoo ! The Junkers is looking good so far. Always been a fan of the Naval version.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on November 06, 2016, 10:06:52 AM
There was a real navalized Ju 87... But why not add a fictional one?
Yup, but wasn't it the Feisler that was going to be used on the Graf Zepelin ?
Quote from: nönöbär on November 06, 2016, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 06, 2016, 06:44:37 AM
M for Marine ?
Yes, I still need a Ju87 for my Graf Zeppelin air wing.... :)
Good, looking forward to it :thumbsup:
After a little break, some progress on the Ju87.
Basic painting is done now in a three colour scheme:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161203162150.jpg)
Now, all the smaller parts are next.
Nice. I should build another Stuka. I need to find an affordable A with those cool trousers.
Now it looks much better with some wheels below it....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161204124806.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Quote from: zenrat on December 04, 2016, 02:40:35 AM
Nice. I should build another Stuka. I need to find an affordable A with those cool trousers.
Look for one of the original MPM/Special Hobby boxing's rather than the latter ones. Takes a little work but goes together well in the end.
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2016, 07:32:39 AM
Quote from: zenrat on December 04, 2016, 02:40:35 AM
Nice. I should build another Stuka. I need to find an affordable A with those cool trousers.
Look for one of the original MPM/Special Hobby boxing's rather than the latter ones. Takes a little work but goes together well in the end.
I'm keeping an eye out but they don't go cheaply - the latest Special Hobby is $36 at one on-line shop I use.
I may end up getting a new Airfix B and fairing in the legs. That should confuse people.
I have the Airfix book on the Stuka (published in the dark ages when I was young and had hair) and it includes instructions and plans on converting the 1/24 kit into an A.
Trousered main gear legs are remarkably easy to scratch build.
My first attempt at it came off very well, see my Hawker Cyclone thread here :- http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,38942.msg641111.html#msg641111 (http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,38942.msg641111.html#msg641111)
The 6th pic down shows the construction of the trousers.
Ah, I remember now...
Thanks Kit.
I prefer Kit's Cyclone to a Hurricane no contest.
Carrier Stuka is looking good. :thumbsup:
For a long time I've wanted to build an Ju-87A with twin fins and a later version like a Ju-87G also with twin fins as if that was the production choice, along with a Stuka of some type with an inverted V-tail and fixed or retractable nosewheel landing gear inspired by zenrat.
Dive breaks added: check
Bomb added: check
Drop tanks added: check
Arrestor hock added : WHAT? Ok, its still missing and we have to find a solution for it.....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161211172022.jpg)
Finally, decals added and waiting for the last finish layer:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161218175200.jpg)
Coming along nicely :thumbsup:
The new year has started, the Flugwerft has opened again and my engineer has developed some new plans.
When building my Luftwaffe Saab Draaken https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,42141.0.html (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,42141.0.html) I had another idea for a what-if based on this model. So here we go:
The box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161218162221.jpg)
What is in it?
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20161218162217.jpg)
The beginning - lets start with the pilot:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170108180930.jpg)
Neat stuff. Love that aeroplane and can't wait to see some more. Love that Stuka as well, just something so neat about it. The colours ? The stance ?
:wub:
Something is sticking out there...
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170115172902.jpg)
... and the pilot is already in his cockpit.
It now starts to look like something that can fly.....
Upper side:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170122182828.jpg)
Lower side:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170122182834.jpg)
First colours have been added, but this will still change a lot:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170205184730.jpg)
After last weeks black, it now looks a bit more colorful...
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170212180756.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170212180816.jpg)
Working on the landing gear right now.
The landing gear is now attached - no wheels this time:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170219170542.jpg)
Just a few little things until its done.
Time to start something new, so there is what to start with:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170219170816.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170219154840.jpg)
As usual, those simple HobbyBoss kits are packed nicely.
The main parts are put quite fast together, so painting can start:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170319130144.jpg)
Not the most inspiring piece of box art but IM(limited)E these Hobby Boss kits are not bad.
Quote from: nönöbär on January 08, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
The box:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20161218162221.jpg&hash=83d4895d6d5b8e8e4ea6d34e79b73cca41c7e1f9)
This is the kit I'm shortly to reveal in the Soviet GB. ;D
Like what you did with both of yours, especially the German variant. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Airbrush painting has been done now, so time to start to add all the little details:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170326172932.jpg)
(The tail is in dark green, this is not so visible on the photo)
Be interesting seeing an E in natural metal. I've seen G before - real world Mosquito chaser- nice work on the paint job btw :thumbsup:
Only slow progress this week, but now from its other side:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170402165210.jpg)
Landing gear, propeller, so ready to add decals:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20170409202112.jpg)
Quote from: zenrat on March 19, 2017, 04:45:05 AM
Not the most inspiring piece of box art but IM(limited)E these Hobby Boss kits are not bad.
Second that. The Hobby Boss 109E is actually pretty good, it even has a cockpit interior. Fit is excellent, as well as surface detail.
The NMF 109E looks a bit odd, but I am curiosu what becomes of it, markings-wise?
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on April 09, 2017, 11:01:17 AM
The NMF 109E looks a bit odd, but I am curiosu what becomes of it, markings-wise?
Me as well. I've one or two thoughts, but when I think about them my brain goes....no !
A model that took quite a while to complete is now done.
A Cessna.
What?
A boring little Cessna?
Well, this actual plane, the D-EVEL, is the only plane I could fly myseff in real life. At least for a few minutes when we did a round trip over Rügen in the Baltic Sea. Pilot gave me the controls when we were past Cape Arkona. And what should I say, my "training" at the MS Flightsim did help quite good :)
So I wanted to build this plane, in the correct color and registration. I found this 1/48 scale ESCI kit of a Cessna 172 on ebay. Unfortunately the previous owner had started with it already and was very creative with what he did. So not everything could be fixed, but at least I managed to make the right paint job and decals for it. And yes, I did not add enough weight to the front, so I need the "box" at the tail....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017051417400006.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017051417400008.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017051417400010.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017051417400011.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017051417400012.jpg)
Spent more time building it than flying it lol. Looks great !
:thumbsup:
Sweet, I love it. These little civil birds are the coolest if you ask me. And how neat is it to model one you rode in and flew yourself!
Nice one! :thumbsup:
Come out very well :thumbsup:
So far, I made several What-If Marineflieger aircraft, most as potential planes of my What-If "Graf Zeppelin".
But one classic one is still missing: The F4 Phantom II.
So lets build one in the typical Marineflieger camo scheme.
This is the model to start with:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017041612292519.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017041612292520.jpg)
And the progress so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017061014450001.jpg)
Basaltgrau und Lichtgrau, or rather the later wraparound scheme from the Tornados? Both should look pretty cool.
That is an old one. I built a later boxing of the same kit. Fit was not the best. Looks like you had issues in the same areas I had. Looks like you've got it all under control though.
I've got a similar vintage F-4E in the stash. Moulded in shiny dark green.
Too much around in "real life" at the moment, so only slow progress on the F4.
As for all of my Marienflieger models, I will go for a Basaltgrau/Lichtgrau camo (altough the later one is whiteon my kits all the time).
So here is the lower side of it:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017070219240007.jpg)
Going for the Basltgrau part next.
Next color has been added, so the general paint scheme is done now.
Before adding gear, drop tanks and missiles, the radar nose and metal finish at the engines must be done:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017070913170002.jpg)
That looks bonza. :thumbsup:
Demarkation between white and a darker colour is always harder to do but that is very crisp and straight. Good job.
I have to agree with Mr Zenrat, very, very neat :thumbsup:
Niiiiiice! Looking quite glorious in them colors.
Next steps for the F4, it's now standing on its own wheels, radar nose and bare metal parts at the tail painted:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017071619060001.jpg)
Hadnt considered the Toom in that Marine fleiger scheme. I like it :thumbsup:
An idea I may "borrow" at some point ;D
Almost everything has been added to the F4 now, tanks (a lot of them), missiles, landing gear.
Now i have to see if i have some decals for it somewhere in the box.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017072319530001.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017072319530002.jpg)
While the Phantom is waiting for its final decals, another little bird left NöNö Bärs Flugwerft - A Flettner FL-282 Helicopter.
One of the first operational helicopters build, it first flew in October 1941. Until the end of the war 20-30 of those little helicopters were build. Especially the Navy was interested in the helicopter and in 1942, experiments of ship-based operations were tested on the "Greif".
The model is a 1/72 Huma kit and one of those Huma models where you want to bite in your desk as the quality of the parts are not very good. It does not fit very well, and sometimes its hard to identify the part at all among all the clutter in the injection-moulded frame.
Some pics of the build model:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017070219340018.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017070219340020.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017070219350022.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017070219350023.jpg)
You've made a good job of that. :thumbsup:
I've got that same Huma kit, and it frightened me so much when I opened the box that's it's been stashed in The Loft for over 15 years! :banghead:
Fantastic! Although I'm hanging out for a copy of the 1/48 kit - I'm not as brave as you!
I eventually sold my copy of that kit on as I just didn't fancy even trying to get it together.
You've done a great job :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 30, 2017, 08:16:38 AM
You've made a good job of that. :thumbsup:
I've got that same Huma kit, and it frightened me so much when I opened the box that's it's been stashed in The Loft for over 15 years! :banghead:
Well, when I saw the kit, I was first a bit "shocked" if i really should try it. At that point I did not see how bad the parts fit together, but one could have guessed it.
Afaik, this is the only 1/72 kit of this little thing, so I had to make it.
I also have the Fa-223 kit from huma here, and I fear this one will also be quite a challange.
Quote from: nönöbär on August 01, 2017, 03:17:31 AM
I also have the Fa-223 kit from huma here, and I fear this one will also be quite a challange.
I've not seen a built example of the Fa-223 (at least I can't remember having) but I'm sure you can do a good job.
I quite like Huma kits I must admit. Enjoyed the ones I've built even though they've taken some effort.
Cool. It'a giving me ideas regarding a pair of Hueys and a FW 189...
Nicely done!!! Took me a minute to figure out what was going on with the rotary wings... then I realized they're two separate bits! For all the quirky aspects of the build, you handled it well and made a really cool model. :mellow: :mellow: :mellow:
Something I wanted to build for quite a while - not really a What-If as it really flew - the Me 163.
So I grabbed a HobbyBoss kit in 1/72 and build if OOB. I really like those simple, cheap Hobby Boss models, they fit quite good, have good decals and are quite fun for a quick build now and then. So there we are:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515360003.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515360004.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515360005.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515360006.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515360007.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515370008.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515370009.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017101515370010.jpg)
Now that's neat :thumbsup:
Hey, looks good man!!
This one will another model of the "Fatherland" timeline, based on the theme of the book by Robert Harris. Or it could be "The Man in the high Castle" which is maybe better known after the Amazon Series.
So, this will be the Junkers 707 Intercontinental Airliners. Which is - surprise, surprise - based on the a Boeing 707 kit. With a few additions of course.
So this is that i will use:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017081315452623.jpg)
Which is mainly this (and it fits quite bad, a lot of putty is required)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017081315452624.jpg)
After the first putty and sanding sessions, the first two colors have been added, two more to come:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017110519270001.jpg)
This looks like a VERY cool project!!! :mellow: :mellow: :wub:
I'm always happy to see a model from the Fatherland universe! Very cool!
Interesting. I suppose/hope you will use the engine pods from the B-52, Baade 152 style. :thumbsup:
The basic painting is done now, a few spots where masking did not work so well have to be fixed:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017111218070001.jpg)
Engines are already build, painted and added to see if they fit correctly.
That looks very good. :thumbsup:
Yuuuuuuuup, sure does!
The engines are now fixed, lower side of the wings are painted:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017111919150001.jpg)
Currently fighting with the cockpit window, does not behave as it should .... :angry:
Oooooh that looks cool! Top work!
Quote from: KiwiZac on November 19, 2017, 11:37:20 AM
Oooooh that looks cool! Top work!
Totally agree :thumbsup:
Good job! The black painted parts of the wing undersides are to cover exhaust traces from the Jumo engines, I suppose? <_<
^^^^^
Me too!!!
:wub: :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
@loupgaru: Yes, and to be a bit in the Lufthansa 1903s style.
The Junkers 707 is now wheels down:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2017112618590006.jpg)
Now work starts on the decals.
My engineer is back in town so lets start something new:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018020413550003.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018020413560004.jpg)
I always liked this plane, but I wonder how it will look in Luftwaffe colors....
Luftwaffe 1975 or Luftwaffe 1946? ;D ;)
Quote from: Tophe on February 04, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
Luftwaffe 1975 or Luftwaffe 1946? ;D ;)
;D 1975. Or later. Have not decided which camo scheme to use.
Luftwaffe Norm 72? Green/Grey splinter on top and silberwiesse undersides, :thumbsup:
I'm sure Airdoc do some decal sheets for Norm 72 Phantoms, bound to be a squadron you could use on there.
Regards
Keith
Cool project, bud. This ought to be good!!
I always thought that was such a futuristic looking aircraft back in the day when it was unveiled. Will look good in Luftwaffe colours :thumbsup:
I think that one of the later Norm '81 schemes should work well on the Viggen (it's lines are very similar to the Phantom)? It would also match the potential time frame.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foriginalundmodell.de%2Freviews2016_3%2Freviews2016_3_htm_files%2F359235.jpg&hash=a1884e3064c52b1e184ed09ea5bae66c6b665804)
Who's this 'Norm' guy you're all talking about? ;D
Well, I guess I will go for Norm83, I like those colour on a plane.
Which brings me to the next issus: Decals. As my decal box has no modern Luftwaffe ones in it anymore - does anymone have an idea where to get some 1/72 scale Bundesluftwaffe decals. Phantom or Starfighter. Searched for it in the web but was not succesful with it so far.
That's gonna be so cool in those colours
HaHen, from which the profile above was taken, is actually a decal maker. Peddinghaus Decals also comes to my mind, but these will be VERY thin short run decals on a continous carrier film. And there are several other aftermarket sheets available.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on February 10, 2018, 03:32:08 AM
HaHen, from which the profile above was taken, is actually a decal maker. Peddinghaus Decals also comes to my mind, but these will be VERY thin short run decals on a continous carrier film. And there are several other aftermarket sheets available.
I did not know the HanHen, but they seem to have what I need for this kit. I have used Peddinghaus before for some 1:144 scale models, but so far I had no problems with them. Just had to be carefull in cutting them out.
For decals with transparent backgorund, I would make them myself, but for white ones, this does not work.
Quote from: nönöbär on February 11, 2018, 12:03:43 PM
For decals with transparent backgorund, I would make them myself, but for white ones, this does not work.
I've managed to do that in a limited number of cases, but only some designs work like that.
Trimming the edges of white decal paper is best done at an angle, with the point of the scalpel pointing underneath the decal area. That minimises the view of the edges of the white decal paper when it's on the model.
Carnival and vacation time is over, so my engineer could continue with the models.
While waiting for colors and decals, the basic work on the Viggen continues:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018032516050001.jpg)
Ready to add the camo, colors and decals just arrived yesterday:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018040715130001.jpg)
First camo color added, next to come:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018041513380001.jpg)
The exciting moment when you remove all the masking after all three camo colors are added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018042213590001.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018042213590002.jpg)
Landing gear, weapons and decals next.
Very exciting. The colours look great !
Noice.
That is neat
Go for the gusto!!! Awesome looking jet right there!
The Saab is now standing on its own wheels. A glossy finisher is sprayed over everything to prepare the model for the decals.
My engineer makes a final check before we can go and add decals (a first one has been added by him so far), weapons and small fragile parts.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018043016060001.jpg)
Glad to see he's paying close attention ;D
Something completely different now - The Focke-Wulf 800.
This will be made using those kits:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018050511260003.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018050511270004.jpg)
Knife, putty and a lot of sanding is required now...
:drink: :cheers: Yeah, this will be good! :thumbsup:
This will be interesting
The original engines of the Viscount have to be removed, so it was a tough job for my engineer with a lot of putty and sanding. He has very small hands, so it it took him a while.
Checking if everything is alright now:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018052011200001.jpg)
Test if the wings fit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018052011200002.jpg)
As the original engines were removed, we need some new ones:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018052011200003.jpg)
And again, a lot of putty and sanding required.
Reminds me of the Nene/Tay Viscount
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nene+viscount&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#imgrc=WACLp3bKWFH8PM:
(I'm sure you'll be able to think of a German river name for the engines) ;D
Looking good :thumbsup:
Regards
Keith
I guess there will be some similarities to the Vickers 663 Tay-Viscount .... ;D
That's looking promising. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on May 25, 2018, 06:25:44 AM
That's looking promising. :thumbsup:
Very :thumbsup:
After the wings have been added to the fuselage, it now look like an aircraft.
The wings have been added in a bit different position than on the original model, so I am now almost running out of putty.
My engineer helps me a bit with the photos:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018052615450001.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018052615450002.jpg)
That's looking very good mate :thumbsup:
It looks very much like the Tay Viscount too.
Some color has been added, but still a way to go.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018060309570001.jpg)
In difference to the Tay Viscount, the landing gear will not be mounted in the engine pods, as the Jumo-006 does not provide enough space for it. Therefore, additional pods were mounted to the inner wings.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018060309570002.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on June 03, 2018, 12:03:52 AM
In difference to the Tay Viscount, the landing gear will not be mounted in the engine pods, as the Jumo-006 does not provide enough space for it. Therefore, additional pods were mounted to the inner wings.
That sounds a very sensible idea. I've always wondered at the sanity of designers who folded up rubber tyres right next door to a blazing hot jet exhaust, viz. Tay Viscount, Vautour, B-47 etc. etc.
Sadly, I do not have so much time for model building right now, but at least the main colors are now added to the plane.
My engineer checks everything before we can start to make the decals for it.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018061018110001.jpg)
That is a neat looking design and with those engine nacelles very much of the period :thumbsup:
Coming together like a set of butt cheeks!! Can't beat it. That yellow on the tail is going to be a hilite of this build, I'm sure of it!
I first wanted to make this as another Lufthansa plane in the Fahtherland universe. But after I airbrushed it completly in yellow to see where I need some additionall sanding, the yellow tail looked quite good. So I decided to keep the yellow tail and so it will by some other hypothetical airline. Still have to decide which name it will get.
Could become an early Condor airliner (the Lufthansa cahrter flight sister) in the original livery (here's a retro B767):
(https://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/crop4641120/4153883224-cfreecrop_21_9-w1280-h720-otx0_y67-q75-p5/condor-boeing-767-300-achim.jpg)
Just needs some blue trim. ;D
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on June 13, 2018, 07:23:14 AM
Could become an early Condor airliner (the Lufthansa cahrter flight sister) in the original livery (here's a retro B767):
(https://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/crop4641120/4153883224-cfreecrop_21_9-w1280-h720-otx0_y67-q75-p5/condor-boeing-767-300-achim.jpg)
Just needs some blue trim. ;D
That's a good lookin' livery right there!
Well, yes, it look a bit like a Condor, but it will be something different.
My engineer now added all the decals form the original kit, so we have some windows on the plane. Looks much better now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018061709040001.jpg)
In the meantime, the airline decals are printed and are prepared to be added to the model.
Your engineer has done a good job, as always.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: zenrat on June 17, 2018, 02:06:55 AM
Your engineer has done a good job, as always.
:thumbsup:
True, but he appears to have a slightly quizzical look on his face in that pic ? Looks as though he's uncertain about something ? ;) ;)
Lovely job as usual :thumbsup:
Well, he told me that he has some fears that the landing gear will not be right. He is thinking quite a while about it now.
Quote from: nönöbär on June 19, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
Well, he told me that he has some fears that the landing gear will not be right. He is thinking quite a while about it now.
Think twice, act once, intelligent bear :thumbsup: ;D ;D
The next project will be another Japanese-German Cooperation in repainting a Japanese plane in Luftwaffe colors
This is the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018062414480019.jpg)
This is in the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018062414480020.jpg)
This has been build so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018070118010001.jpg)
The cockpit is in place now
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018071510510002.jpg)
Basically everything is ready to send it into the paint shop
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018071510510001.jpg)
Looking forward to the scheme you choose for this
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 15, 2018, 04:53:00 AM
Looking forward to the scheme you choose for this
I am still not sure which colour scheme to use. Currently trying a few ones on a test model, but so far, there is no real favourite.
I've become a lot more patient since I retired ;)
Its simply too hot these days, makes no real fun to build some models.
Anyway, at least some painting has been done, after several camo tests, I returned to something more classic:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018080511240002.jpg)
While the "Ente" is in its final construction phases, something else just got completed:
Last year, I watched the Japanese move "Eternal Zero" with my GF. As the name suggests, there are quite a lot Zeros in it. So my GF bought me a Hasegawa Zero box - with two kits in it - last Christmas which of course I had to build.
While still wondering what kind of What-If to make from it, as I already have made a Luftwaffe Zero from Airfix kit, I decided to build the first of the two as a classic Japanese one. But trying to make it it bit used, so here is the result:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018081212570006.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018081212570008.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018081212570009.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018081212570010.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018081212580011.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018081212580012.jpg)
That's come out really nice :thumbsup:
Yes, that looks very nice!!! Great work, bud!
Nice outcome!
A nice use of a Zero is the travesty into a Swedish Saab J19 fighter that never was, but was actually designed along the A6M's outlines:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.x-plane.org%2Fhome%2Furf%2Faviation%2Ftext%2Fsaabcanc%2Fj19.gif&hash=0e98f28df494ecded45f0ae523315270d1b78a5a)
I already did two of these (as personal interpretations), looks very convincing. ;)
Nevermind that the Gloster F.5 was of a similar design too.
I wanted to use some parts of this F-16 model for another What-If project, but after some initial tests, it did not work as it should.
As I never build a F-16, I thought "Why not build a What-if from it".
Bad idea. The 1/72 scale Smer kit is - lets say it nicely - just awful. A very soft plastic, not very good to work with. and parts fit so good that a little hamster could climb through all the gaps.
So I don't know if I will finish this one or if it will fly out of the window.
The Box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018110313130003.jpg)
The Parts:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018110313140004.jpg)
Progress so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018111115020018.jpg)
Good fit quality.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018111115020019.jpg)
This looks like a re-incarnation of the (horrible) Intech F-16 kit?
Looking forward to your interpretation of Scottish national insignia!
I've always regarded such ill-fitting kits as prime candidates for Whiffing projects. After all, one could hardly be expected to expend all the time and effort necessary to build it OOB, when other, better-fitting, kits of the same subject abound.
No - these sorts of kits are perfect for chop-and-graft jobs, if only because of the amounts of putty already needed anyway just to make the seams look good. :) So find another similarly-sized fuselage of something completely different, add a cigar-tube, and Vulcan wings, and .... well, whatever you want and think will be mind-bending! :) Stick the cockpit on a VW Bug chassis and call it a Basic Trainer! :)
The featureless tube pretending to be the burner can is also present on Mister/Mastercraft F-16 (have two in the stash as parts donors), and that is alleged to be a knockoff of the old Italeri mould (which obviously had a more detailed burner can). It's such a telltale sign that I wouldn't be surprised if these are actually all from the same knockoff mould.
The Mastercraft kit is another Intech zombie!
I have some other Mastercraft kits here around and they have the same soft plastic like this "F-16".
Initally, I only wanted to use the wings of this one for another project, but they were too small for what i wanted. So I will try my best for it.
And I think the " featureless tube" as Snowtrooper called it must be a special Scottish improvement of the F-16, I still don't know for what.... :)
Quote from: nönöbär on November 12, 2018, 06:05:23 AM
I have some other Mastercraft kits here around and they have the same soft plastic like this "F-16".
Initally, I only wanted to use the wings of this one for another project, but they were too small for what i wanted. So I will try my best for it.
And I think the " featureless tube" as Snowtrooper called it must be a special Scottish improvement of the F-16, I still don't know for what.... :)
Smoothbore, for less induced drag and more power at the output. ;)
Hey, if it works for tank guns, why not aircraft?
I'm suffering a Smer Corsair, what a waste of plastic! Raised panel lines but such a bad fit I could not be bothered re-scribing. Worst thing is - I have another one in the stash!
Has to use quite some putty and do a lot of sanding to remove all the gaps between the parts.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018111713230004.jpg)
The cockpit was very simple, so I added at least a flight stick and upgraded the seat a bit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018111713230003.jpg)
Quite hard to get the special Scottish "featurless tuebe" in the right place, its a real putty mess at the moment.
Scottish Pilots must be brave. Very brave. There are so many holes and gaps between the parts in this plane, that it will be a real putty monster.
It was close to flying directly out of the sixth floor here, but now I definitely want to beat this pile of plastic. So here is how it looks now, I fear a lot more putty and sanding will be required before starting to paint it.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018112516240002.jpg)
I really "love" this kit, and therefore I bought another one of those:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018120117530003.jpg)
Seriously, its an awful one. However, the second kit - made by Mastercraft -seem to have some better production quality than the Smer one. Its identical, but has some other weapons and a few additional parts to "pimp" the plane a bit.
So why did I get another one of those?
I needed some parts that were identical to the ones of the Smar model, as I had an idea while building....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018120117540004.jpg)
:wub: :wub: :wub: :thumbsup:
Looks good to me, man. Haggis all around!
Maybe this is not the very first twin F-16 that I see, but it is always a great pleasure, thanks! :thumbsup: :wub: :bow:
Not so much to complain about this kit this time, but it was mostly painting.
So the main paint work has been done:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018120917240004.jpg)
Good! The YF-17/F-18 would have been in good company! :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on December 09, 2018, 07:33:57 AM
Not so much to complain about this kit this time, but it was mostly painting.
So the main paint work has been done:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel2018120917240004.jpg&hash=111e7069fd3f6c31f7df8d2294e279e909b6e8a8)
Is it just me, or does it look as if you're planning to put a nose-inlet on that aircraft? You know - make it "Lightning-esque" - radar cone in the middle of the inlet. :)
Quote from: Scotaidh on December 09, 2018, 11:51:23 AM
Is it just me, or does it look as if you're planning to put a nose-inlet on that aircraft? You know - make it "Lightning-esque" - radar cone in the middle of the inlet. :)
No, the nose will be pretty normal for an F16 and the air intake below the cockpit. I just did not add it so far as it is painted in a different colour and I wanted to prevent to break the it during contruction. I managed to break those tiny winglets beside the cockpit at least 10 times now..... :banghead:
Quote from: nönöbär on December 09, 2018, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: Scotaidh on December 09, 2018, 11:51:23 AM
Is it just me, or does it look as if you're planning to put a nose-inlet on that aircraft? You know - make it "Lightning-esque" - radar cone in the middle of the inlet. :)
No, the nose will be pretty normal for an F16 and the air intake below the cockpit. I just did not add it so far as it is painted in a different colour and I wanted to prevent to break the it during contruction. I managed to break those tiny winglets beside the cockpit at least 10 times now..... :banghead:
I feel your pain at those breakages ... Big banana fingers, here, so I break stuff all the time. :-\
BTW, congrats on pushing through the fit issues. I know you were pretty discouraged at one point - way to keep at it! :)
I don't usually care for the F-16 much, but I might give my intake idea a go - I'm sure I have one somewhere in the SSR. :) Now I just have to think of a name and a backstory ... :)
Before my engineer leaves for his holiday vacation, a final preview of the F-16AT for this year:
Wheels, wings and nose are attacked, now decals and payload will be next.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018122216540001.jpg)
Now that's looking pretty darn good, and I'm a died-in-the-wool F-16 hater too. :thumbsup:
It's more spikey though!! ;D ;D
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Good! :wub:
My engineer is back from his vacation and while he did no model building, he created a few decals.
So the first batch of decals is added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019011316000004.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019011316000005.jpg)
Good touch of what-if spirit! :thumbsup:
So its mostly done now.
Fully weapons have been added, now the remaining decals and the canopy have to be completed.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019012015460003.jpg)
:thumbsup: close to completion now :thumbsup:
I really like those decals! Where did you get them, and how can I get lots of them? :)
Quote from: Scotaidh on January 21, 2019, 03:10:14 AM
I really like those decals! Where did you get them, and how can I get lots of them? :)
Well, made them myself. Searched the web for something I could use. Then printed them on decal paper, sealed them and could use them like any other decals.
Only problem was that I needed decal paper with white background, so I had to cut them out carefully. Only the dragon on the tail was printed on transparent decal paper.
Thanks for these details in decal-engineering... :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on January 22, 2019, 07:07:50 AM
Quote from: Scotaidh on January 21, 2019, 03:10:14 AM
I really like those decals! Where did you get them, and how can I get lots of them? :)
Well, made them myself. Searched the web for something I could use. Then printed them on decal paper, sealed them and could use them like any other decals.
Only problem was that I needed decal paper with white background, so I had to cut them out carefully. Only the dragon on the tail was printed on transparent decal paper.
I was afraid of that - I don't have the right kind of printer to make decals. I tried once, and ... well, let's just say it didn't work. :)
While the F16 waits for the final work, here is another finished model.
In 2014, we spend our summer vacation in Ireland. There, we made a day trip to the Aran islands, it takes you about one hour by boat or 7 minutes by plane. So we took the plane, a BN Islander.
I rebuild the one (correct registration etc.) that we used for this flight. The model is a 1/72 scale old Airfix kit. As it is a bit too tail heavy (not enough weight in the nose), I had to add a little helper in the back of the plane.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018112516410006.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018112516420007.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018112516420008.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2018112516420009.jpg)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Lovely! :wub:
In the RW both the Islander and the Trilander had a removeable strut that fitted into a hole in the tail bumper. It was the ground crew's responsiblity to make sure this was in place, or removed, as required.
It was not often needed with the Islander, but the Trilander was another matter. The ground crew had to make sure that the strut was in place before the pilot got out!.
This photo shows the strut fitted to a Trilander, however in this case it looks like it was fitted into the side of the fuselage. I have only ever seen it used with an Islander.
(https://uzl42vgt1w-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/BTN-TR01-1040-HI962-exterior-left-4tail-engine.jpg)
Nice build.
I butchered one of these when a youth.
The aircraft I did my one parachute jump from was an Islander.
@JayBee: Now this is something, I will have to update the model with it. Thx!
Something completely different now....
With some huge effort, my engineer finally updated the workingspace of the Flugwerft (and the Schiffswerft as well). After freeing some space, he could now move all model building stuff into its own place, which largely increased the WAF as he did not had to work i the living room anymore. ;D
So here is his new working space:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190210124201.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190210124302.jpg)
The 3D Printer:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190210124303.jpg)
Control monitor for the prints (which can take quite some time). I used an old HP Touchpad for it where i have installed Android besides the original webOS.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20190210132623.jpg&hash=8709653feba3c8138476de82cd1c4ec8eb1d5c61)
Room with a view ! That looks great. Let's get a close up of the train display. That's something I've always wanted to do.
Quote from: Captain Canada on February 10, 2019, 06:41:13 AM
Room with a view ! That looks great. Let's get a close up of the train display. That's something I've always wanted to do.
Well, until last week, there was a model railroad (N-gauge) in this room. As I have not worked on it for years now, I have put it in the storage cellar and set up everything for scale building. Ahm, of course my engineer did all this....
And the view is nice, can see the Cologne Cathedral from there :)
Can I borrow your engineer ? ;D
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 14, 2019, 06:47:24 AM
Can I borrow your engineer ? ;D
Well, actually I now noticed that the engineer is a she. My GF insisted that it is one. So she (the engineer) does not like to travel so much, because she must always think so much what to build next and how to do it..... ;D ;D ;D
Ooooh yeah, I like the Ilsander! What a joy to model a plane you've history with. :mellow:
Quote from: nönöbär on February 15, 2019, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 14, 2019, 06:47:24 AM
Can I borrow your engineer ? ;D
Well, actually I now noticed that the engineer is a she. My GF insisted that it is one. So she (the engineer) does not like to travel so much, because she must always think so much what to build next and how to do it..... ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D
Room with a view indeed.
What floor are you on?
Quote from: zenrat on February 16, 2019, 05:37:13 PM
Room with a view indeed.
What floor are you on?
It's 6th floor with a 360° roof terrace. From the "workshop" I have a nice view to Cologne cathedral. This room was filled with an unused model railway for many years, so I (or better, my engineer) had to escape to the living room for model building. GF did not like it so much. So I had to free this room.
Thanks to the input of JayBee I upgraded the Islander a bit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019021712255.jpg)
Looks better this way.
Lets start with something new. A modification to a Heinkel He 115:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019012015480006.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019012015490007.jpg)
As I had used the floats of this plane for my Canadair CL-87F "Firespotter" http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,41616.0.html (http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,41616.0.html), this He115 will be on wheels.
Therefore, the wings have to be prepared for the wheels:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190210124405.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019021712256.jpg)
The wheels will be taken from an Airfix Do215 model.
Going to be interesting :thumbsup:
Great minds think alike ;D
Here's my He-115K in progress.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airwar1946.nl%2Fpics%2Fhe-115L.jpg&hash=a28d9f6c515c800b4c38e111c901597e916bcbb5)
TomZ
Quote from: TomZ on February 24, 2019, 09:28:08 AM
Great minds think alike ;D
Here's my He-115K in progress.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airwar1946.nl%2Fpics%2Fhe-115L.jpg&hash=a28d9f6c515c800b4c38e111c901597e916bcbb5)
TomZ
Well, this looks quite familiar to me.... ;D
Will be intersting to see your paint job for it.
What kit do you use? I have the very old Revel (original Matchbox) kit which is a bit different on the front (all transparent).
And you use different landing legs, mine have legs at each side of the wheel.
However, I now discovered something bad: The hull of my He 115 is bend to the left. If I look at it directly from the front, the tail fin is not completly upright, the whole backward part of the hull is twisted a bit to one side :(
And idea how to fix it? Heat would work I think, but I fear this can even do more damage.
This looks like the old Revell kit (a FROG mold), not the Matchbox mold. The latter can be recognized thorugh the label "He 115 B/C", while the Frog mold only comes as a "He 115 C".
I have the Revell kit. I hate that nose glazing. This is my third attempt on fixing it to the fuselage without smearing glue all over it.
The first two were not in line with the rest of the fuselage.
My undercarriage comes from a Junkers Ju-188 (Guess where the He-115s floats are going......)
It will be finished in a scheme of a South American country (exact country not yet determined) as an export model.
Don't expect the finished build before the summer however. I have quite some builds going on at the moment.
I can only spray paint when the weather gets a bit better as I do it in an unheated shed in the garden.
TomZ
Quote from: nönöbär on February 25, 2019, 07:09:23 AM
However, I now discovered something bad: The hull of my He 115 is bend to the left. If I look at it directly from the front, the tail fin is not completly upright, the whole backward part of the hull is twisted a bit to one side :(
And idea how to fix it? Heat would work I think, but I fear this can even do more damage.
I would try immersing it in hot water and the gently bending it the other way.
TomZ
@TomZ: I just hate all those cockpit windows of this plane. I am sitting here masking it for years now.
Will try with hot water, the next days, wish me luck with it.... :)
@TomZ: Well hot water helped, the tail is now much more in shape than before.
Almost all of the masking has been done now, so its close to go to the paint shop:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019030311504.jpg)
As the He 115 D will be a recon plane, a large pod has been added where the former bomb bay was:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019030311515.jpg)
The first paint is one now, plus several smaller parts are prepared to be used after camo painting is done:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019031015091.jpg)
Yay!! Looks good, bud!!!!
The second camo color has been added
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190317130308.jpg)
Now preparing everything to paint the lower side of the plane.
Lookin' good! :) :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
The final camo color has been added - as this He 115 will be used for night recon flights,, i got a black lower part:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190324091203.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190324091202.jpg)
For longer range, additional fuel tanks have been added.
Now the landing gear is next.
Finally, the He 115 stand on its own wheels:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190331100502.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190331100503.jpg)
A few more little things until the decals will be added.
There are aspects of this, mainly all that glazing, that makes it look slightly Japanese in my eyes.
Time to build something a bit more modern.
This time, it will be a Messerschmitt / Hispano Aviacion 200 as a Luftwaffe training aircraft in the early 1960s.
This is the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190414101709.jpg)
And this is in the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190414101910.jpg)
Starting to build the cockpit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019042109259.jpg)
Put together hull and wings. There is quite some putty required on this model
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190504152202.jpg)
Cool project!!
The interesting thing of this aircraft is that it was designed by Willy Messerschmitt while he worked in Spain after WW2. So you could call it a Me "something"
I once build this one as the Spanish Version:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2016012412181939.jpg)
Congratulations for this pretty model... :thumbsup:
And I add personal thanks, because... I had not noticed the fin here looks so much like a Mustang's, so I will invent (as drawing) mixes in that direction... thanks again! ;D
With that engine arrangement a jet-powered Mustang could be easily possible, too...?
Yes, here they are, thanks again! ;D
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2FP-51_profil01_ek.jpg&hash=a50980b9b7690bb81ce127902bb9f8734b2ec917) ;D
Such a funny looking/ neat looking bird ! Love the straight wings. Camo looks great as well.
Good job. :thumbsup:
Thanks, the one that I am building right now will be a Luftwaffe training aircraft in the early 1960s.
One sad thing - 6 years ago (May 5, 2013) a Ha-200 crashed during an air show in Spain, killing the pilot :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgiSLJlQEZo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgiSLJlQEZo)
Turned out great!! I like it. You've inspired me to buy one of these kits.
First layer of some primary paint and a little bit of color for the wingtip-tanks:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190526100303.jpg)
Nice!!! My kit arrived the other day. Until I build it, I'm looking forward to yours.
Most of the paining has been done now:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019060912516.jpg)
Painting is done, so decals can be added before weathering it a bit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019062209222.jpg)
VERY smart, I love those faded Dayglo tip tanks! :wub: :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 22, 2019, 03:17:35 AM
VERY smart, I love those faded Dayglo tip tanks! :wub: :thumbsup:
Yup, excellent :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
No what-if, but something I wanted to build for quite a while - a Heeresflieger UH-1. A few of them are still flying in the Bundeswehr.
When i was a kid, I lived not so far away from a Luftwaffe airbase. Every morning, a UH-1 flew from the airbase to a SAR station (maybe a hospital, I don't know) and in the evening it flew back. So I saw those helicopters quite often - and it you did not see them, you could hear their characteristic sound.
So I wanted to build one of those - this is a 1/72 scale Revell kit build OOB:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190706091911.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190706091912.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190706091914.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on July 07, 2019, 10:33:20 AM
So I wanted to build one of those - this is a 1/2 scale Revell kit build OOB:
HALF scale? :o
That must fill up your whole house!
I'm guessing he meant 1/72
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 07, 2019, 10:44:20 AM
Quote from: nönöbär on July 07, 2019, 10:33:20 AM
So I wanted to build one of those - this is a 1/2 scale Revell kit build OOB:
HALF scale? :o
That must fill up your whole house!
Oh, yes, I can tell you its really some hard work to move it form one side of the house to the other... MY GF always dislikes that.
And i corrected the scale - 1/72.... :)
A small project now, a HobbyBoss F4F wildcat. I like those very simple kits despite the very few parts, the built models look not too bad.
This is what will be build:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190630101310.jpg)
This is in the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190630101311.jpg)
And the progress so far:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20190713113001.jpg&hash=5220fa360e890b9144a415d296ad7bde61ab065a)
Plan is to build it as a captured and reused aircraft.
Oh nice!!! Looking good so far.
I bought some of those kits not long ago, I can't wait to try one.
Quote from: TheChronicOne on July 14, 2019, 09:14:49 AMOh nice!!! Looking good so far.
I bought some of those kits not long ago, I can't wait to try one.
I like how they put those kits in their boxes. Also bought s few of them a while ago, as they were really cheap.
The first colour is no on the Wildcat, ready to add the second:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019072814421.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on July 14, 2019, 08:28:25 AM
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel20190630101311.jpg&hash=05eeb9198266b9435416570fb833e0c04d763952)
From an environmental PoV there is far too much packaging in there.
However, I have to agree that the ones I have built have gone together well, are cheap and look good.
@zenrat: Yes, this kind of boxes have too much packaging material in it. The only advantage is that all parts are nicely stored in it.
Although I will keep the general idea of my F4F, thanks to
@Sport21ing I got a slightly different inspiration for it.
So, after adding some more color, it looks like this:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190804132408.jpg)
Wheels are added, waiting for its decals and the little remaining things....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190811104106.jpg)
Looks good to me! I like these colors.
Vacation time is over and my engineer returned completely relaxed and inspired to do some new stuff.
This time he will go for an airliner again. To start with, he takes this one here:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190811104213.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20190811104414.jpg)
He had his plans before the vacation already, but sitting on the pool deck of the cruise ship in the sun, with some nice cocktails he got some better ideas. So he modified the wings more than he originally wanted to:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019092210298.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019092210299.jpg)
Lets see what the result will be
What are those wings from please Nonobar?
Chris.
Quote from: chrisonord on September 22, 2019, 03:08:52 AM
What are those wings from please Nonobar?
Chris.
They are taken form a 1:144 sclae Mistercraft Caravelle.
Oh, I like that! :wub: :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on September 22, 2019, 03:37:11 AM
Quote from: chrisonord on September 22, 2019, 03:08:52 AM
What are those wings from please Nonobar?
Chris.
They are taken form a 1:144 sclae Mistercraft Caravelle.
Cheers, they look suitable for a PR canuck I want to build. I will look out for one, and look at their dimensions :thumbsup:
Chris
Caravelle wings on a Connie, A NEAT idea!
Model shops are having a run on Caravelle kits lately! ;D
I am already curious about the propulsion of this hybrid! ;D
I'm seeing a 1/72 scalorama'd Supermarine Attacker replacement ;)
Brilliant Idea :thumbsup:
Sweeeeeeeeeeet. :mellow: :mellow: :mellow:
While I am doing a few tests for engine alternatives for the L2049 (nothing a stage that I can show so far), I also worked on the fuselage/wing connection.
A lot of putty and some 3d printed parts, still wip....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019092912181.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019092912182.jpg)
This is hard work, have courage, the final result deserves it probably ;)
The sanding continues....
Those 3D printed parts printed in PLA are really a pain to sand, takes quite long until you see an effect. But i think the end of putty&sanding is near here.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019100609425.jpg)
Now printed some engines for the L2049. No, I will not use all six of them (well, who knows, maybe...), but printing with an SLA printer has the nice effect that printing time is only depending on the height of an object. So printing 2, 4, ,6 or eight besides each other takes the same time, just more material. Therefore I always print more than I need, just to have some spare parts if one did not print good at all.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019100609424.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on October 06, 2019, 01:56:01 AM
The sanding continues....
Those 3D printed parts printed in PLA are really a pain to sand, takes quite long until you see na effect. But i think the end of putty&sanding is near here.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel2019100609425.jpg&hash=cb7ae79f38367111fe23ca26191e992e7a05efea)
Now printed some engines for the L2049. No, I will not use all six of them (well, who knows, maybe...), but printing with an SLA printer has the nice effect that printing time is only depending on the height of an object. So printing 2, 4, ,6 or eight besides each other takes the same time, just more material. Therefore I always print more than I need, just to have some spare parts if one did not print good at all.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel2019100609424.jpg&hash=45d741be42f34fe3983173a1534123232652a2e9)
That looks great! Evokes all sorts of creative thinking.
This is looking promising, but the single Connie fin looks a bit lost? :o
The jet engines are now added to the wings. 4 of them are enough :)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191013095902.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191013095903.jpg)
But because of then, I cannot use the original landing gear of the Caravelle, it is too short (the one of the L1049 does not fit under the wings at all). So I have to make a new one.
First tests are printed and I will continue in this direction.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191013100004.jpg)
Nice silhouette, unusual :thumbsup:
Quote from: salt6 on October 13, 2019, 06:57:27 AMI think you'll need a little bit more rudder.
As salt6 pointed out, the rudder was too small. So I am working on a bigger one. Which basically a scaled up version of the original one. A first test print was made, now i can make the "real" one:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191020121602.jpg)
Besides this, the new landing gear is now made. The front one is the original of the L1049, the main gear is printed, the wheels are taken from the Caravelle kit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191020121603.jpg)
How strong and stable are 3d printed parts compared to injection moulded styrene or resin?
Resin will bend over time if there is weight on it (don't ask me how I know that) while injection moulded styrene is more stable.
Quote from: nönöbär on October 20, 2019, 03:15:50 AM
the rudder was too small. So I am working on a bigger one. Which basically a scaled up version of the original one. A first testprint was made, now i can make the "real" one:
This is even better with the new fin. :thumbsup:
Quote from: zenrat on October 20, 2019, 03:55:33 AM
How strong and stable are 3d printed parts compared to injection moulded styrene or resin?
Resin will bend over time if there is weight on it (don't ask me how I know that) while injection moulded styrene is more stable.
A good question, I don't know. I guess FDM prints (PLA) and SLA prints (Resin) are quite different.
PLA is sensitive to temperature. at about 60°, its getting weak. I had one mount for a thermometer outside which got a lot of direct sun this summer. Its now completly bended. I have some other prints outside to see how they will react to sunlight, rain, snow etc over alonger time.
For the resin, I have no experience so far. The landing gear is made with the SLA printer, so I have to see if this will be a problem after some time.
Quote from: zenrat on October 20, 2019, 03:55:33 AM
How strong and stable are 3d printed parts compared to injection moulded styrene or resin?
Resin will bend over time if there is weight on it (don't ask me how I know that) while injection moulded styrene is more stable.
Interesting that, maybe it's why a few of the top end resin boys now mould their undercarriage parts in a different type/colour resin from the rest of the kit ? I knew it was for added strength, but was not aware of the time issue.
ThePartsBox.com cast their resin hot rod front axles with a wire through the middle for strength. They didn't used to and they would sag over time.
I had a 1/25 '29 Ford roadster which ended up with very cambered front wheels.
However, putting a block under the axle allowed them to drop back down again.
Looking good, I have tried adding turbofaned engines taken from two Matchbox A-10 to a Heller 1/72 Connie. It works so I will try it again in the future.
Looking really nice with the larger fin. I glad you kept the original shape... the curviness of the whole affair is a large part of the appeal.
Quote from: TheChronicOne on October 21, 2019, 10:05:35 AM
Looking really nice with the larger fin. I glad you kept the original shape... the curviness of the whole affair is a large part of the appeal.
Second that. :thumbsup:
The fin was taken form a 3D model of a Constallation. I removed the rest of the plane, scaled it in the size I wanted and printed it. Have to see if I can really use it or make a new print with the Resin printer.
And i will have to see what happens to the printed landing gear after a while. As I do not have this printer fro so long, there is no long-time experience for me with the prints.
Unfortunately I lost the cockpit windscreen somehow... :banghead:
So I will close it, sand it and use some decals for it. Would fit better to the passenger windows as those are decals, too.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191027124603.jpg)
And, once completed, you'll find the cockpit window. ;D ;)
Quote from: Old Wombat on October 27, 2019, 06:41:34 AMAnd, once completed, you'll find the cockpit window. ;D ;)
Of course - I will find tw oof them.... :)
To check if the putty&sanding went well, I did a complete paint over the complete model. Looks as if a few spots are left which need a bit more work:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191103111003.jpg)
But i hope I can go to the real paint job soon.
Tremendous!! This is going to be one the best ever! Ever!
Stick a mast coming out of the back to make the tail look a little more "complete" perhaps? Can contain a parachute and you get to add a novel thing to the backstory! :thumbsup: ;D
Looks very sinister in black, but that curvy Connie fuselage looks terrific nonetheless. :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 03, 2019, 12:12:23 PMLooks very sinister in black, but that curvy Connie fuselage looks terrific nonetheless. :thumbsup:
The black was just some unique paint to see where more sanding was required.
So the first "real" color is coming up now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191110105621.jpg)
Right on!!! :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: Glad to see progress on this one.. ... can't wait to see it. Mine go so slow I have to live through y'alls buillds. ;D
That seems to be very good work on that sanding job. I can never seem to achieve a convincing level of smoothness, but that looks spot on.
More painting has been done to give it a classic airline color scheme - white cabin roof and the rest of it in pure aluminum.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2019111711264.jpg)
That's looking better and better by every posting you make. :thumbsup:
I love airliner whifs. I will follow this development attentively. :thumbsup:
Well, sometimes things go wrong on a project, even in a late phase of it. Like this time :angry:
When adding the planned decals to the model, they simply disintegrate in the water. No idea why as they did not seem to be too old.
So I have to switch to plan B - its always good if there is a plan B - to choose some other decals. And to adjust the color scheme a bit first
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191124132802.jpg)
Again, there was some trouble with the decals, they broke into several pieces. But at least the could be attached at all. Still a bit to go here.
That looks better and better the more you do to it, rubbish decals notwithstanding. :thumbsup:
Maaaaaan, what IS IT with the airliners ?!!? I 've had the same thing happen a few times and it keeps trying to happen to my Saudia plane. Plan for a scheme just to have the transfers go bad...then have to adjust on the fly. I think you managed it perfectly, though, and this scheme is totally KICK ARSE on here... now it almost sort of looks like a FUTURE-Liner or something! :wub: :wub: :wub:
Quote from: TheChronicOne on November 24, 2019, 09:17:34 AM
Maaaaaan, what IS IT with the airliners ?!!? I 've had the same thing happen a few times and it keeps trying to happen to my Saudia plane. Plan for a scheme just to have the transfers go bad...then have to adjust on the fly. I think you managed it perfectly, though, and this scheme is totally KICK ARSE on here... now it almost sort of looks like a FUTURE-Liner or something! :wub: :wub: :wub:
I don't know, maybe its the size of the decals. I mean, they are much "longer" than the usual ones we use. But the original ones of this kit were just awful, put htem in the water and they were gone. I only had that with very old ones before, but there they looked old before using. Those one here looked perfectly ok.
Anyway, the replacements worked in the end even if they broke into several pieces, too.
Quote from: nönöbär on November 24, 2019, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: TheChronicOne on November 24, 2019, 09:17:34 AM
Maaaaaan, what IS IT with the airliners ?!!? I 've had the same thing happen a few times and it keeps trying to happen to my Saudia plane. Plan for a scheme just to have the transfers go bad...then have to adjust on the fly. I think you managed it perfectly, though, and this scheme is totally KICK ARSE on here... now it almost sort of looks like a FUTURE-Liner or something! :wub: :wub: :wub:
I don't know, maybe its the size of the decals. I mean, they are much "longer" than the usual ones we use. But the original ones of this kit were just awful, put htem in the water and they were gone. I only had that with very old ones before, but there they looked old before using. Those one here looked perfectly ok.
Anyway, the replacements worked in the end even if they broke into several pieces, too.
Gotcha... I had just tried to use some printed less than 10 years ago, looked beautiful.... brand spanking new right out of the kit and they went into a billion pieces! :o Just like you, I wasn't expecting it. Had I known, I would have tried liquid decal fix but who could fathom a pristine brand new sheet going wrong?
With any decals sheets of which I don't know the history, I tend to spray on a coat of acrylic varnish or two, just in case. that pretty well works every time, but of course you then have the hassle of trimming each part closely.
After a short break due to the holidays and a business trip to Asia, its now time to start something new. This time a paint-job for a F14 Tomcat.
This is the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191201110506.jpg)
This is in there:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20191201110607.jpg)
And this is how far I got so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200201155602.jpg)
I remember an F-14 in Marineflieger colors (the late wraparound Tornado scheme) from a convention a couple of years ago, looked very good!
Glorious!!
This will be good. One the most beautiful fighters of all time. So big, so powerful !
I always liked the F14, a quite impressive bird. Did not had so much time recently, but at least a bit more painting on the lower part of the hull is completed:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020020916141.jpg)
Work on the cockpit also continued:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020020916152.jpg)
Next would be the upper part of the aircraft.
Cool, man. I love the F-14.... I'm happy to see one being built up.
Work progress is quite good, the upper parts are now back from the airbrush cabin:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020021616041.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020021616042.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020021616043.jpg)
Upper and lower parts still have to be glues together. And then "only" all the smaller parts are missing :)
Looking good!
Looks so right already ! Great stuff.
Four years ago I drew two "Seekatzen"..... maybe they will be useful for You.... ;)
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=29685.1530
Quote from: PantherG on February 25, 2020, 07:38:10 AM
Four years ago I drew two "Seekatzen"..... maybe they will be useful for You.... ;)
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=29685.1530
Thanks, yes, this is quite similar to what i have in mind for it. Sorry for my late reply, I was on vacation (glad that I am back before the Corona madness broke out completely) and when being back, there was no Internet at home anymore ... :banghead:
Have to return to model building now.
Most of the Seekatze is now put together, Wheels and armament is still missing
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200322112310.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200322112311.jpg)
Pretty! A Royal Navy version would still be possible, too! :rolleyes:
Somehow you would think that now that you should not leave your house and keep social distance, you find more time for model building. But strangely there was much more work to do than normal - and no, I am not selling toilet paper or produce it....
But at least, the Seekatze is now standing on its own wheels, I am currently thinking about which weapons to add to it.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020032914561.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on March 29, 2020, 07:32:13 AM
...I am currently thinking about which weapons to add to it....
How about a pair of Vickers guns on the nose with a Lewis on a scarfe ring for the back seater? ;)
Quote from: zenrat on March 30, 2020, 04:19:17 AM
Quote from: nönöbär on March 29, 2020, 07:32:13 AM
...I am currently thinking about which weapons to add to it....
How about a pair of Vickers guns on the nose with a Lewis on a scarfe ring for the back seater? ;)
It's
NAVY, so it'd need a triple 15" gun turret at least!
Well, I was thinking of adding some toilet paper bombs, but they are too hard to get those days....
;D
Quote from: nönöbär on March 30, 2020, 08:07:45 AM
Well, I was thinking of adding some toilet paper bombs, but they are too hard to get those days....
;D ;D
As i could not find any toilet paper to make toilet paper bombs, I have to stick with more "conventional" weapons.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020040512311.jpg)
More to come.
The armament is now ready to go, but first decals must be added.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020041212302.jpg)
Nice!! Love to see the 54's on scene. :wacko:
While the Seekatze is getting its final updates, here is something else that left the Flugwerft.
Not really a What-if, but still la quite unknown fighter aircraft of WW2, the Swedish FFVS J22A. First flown in in 1942, it was used by the Swedish Air Force until the early 1950s.
I saw one of those in the Swedish Air Force museum in Linköping, where my GF bought me this little kit. by Marivox. Never heart of this one, but it was quite good to build.
The model shows a J22B in March 1944.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200419115806.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200419115807.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200419115909.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200419115910.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200419115911.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200419115908.jpg)
Nice job.
:thumbsup:
I've seen the J22A in in SwAF Museum too, and you've done it great justice with the model. :thumbsup:
That's looking very good. :thumbsup: I have that kit also somewhere in the stash, but lacked a whiffy idea for it so far.
Very good build of a rare bird. :thumbsup:
Very nice. I don't think I've ever heard of it either
Quote from: Captain Canada on April 19, 2020, 10:52:52 AM
Very nice. I don't think I've ever heard of it either
I first saw it in the museum in Linköping, didn't know it before as well. Which btw, is a quite intersting museum, the have a Ju 86 (I love this plane) and the Saab 18, wish there would be a model of this one as well.
IIRC, KORA does an 1:72 Saab 18, but I assume that its price is ridiculous, if you find one.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on April 21, 2020, 01:54:49 AM
IIRC, KORA does an 1:72 Saab 18, but I assume that its price is ridiculous, if you find one.
I know, but its hard to get and the price..... As an alternative, I already looked for a 3D model that could be printed, but had no luck so far.
Quote from: nönöbär on April 20, 2020, 11:03:07 PM
Which btw, is a quite intersting museum, the have a Ju 86 (I love this plane)
Isn't it just! I was amazed walking in there to see the Ju 86 hanging up in the corner of the hall! I didn't think any of them still existed. :o
And the Vertol 107 which you can walk right through while it's 'floating' on simulated water, a superb idea. :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 21, 2020, 05:00:37 AM
Isn't it just! I was amazed walking in there to see the Ju 86 hanging up in the corner of the hall! I didn't think any of them still existed. :o
And the Vertol 107 which you can walk right through while it's 'floating' on simulated water, a superb idea. :thumbsup:
I knew that they had a Ju86 there, and this was one of the reasons why I wanted to go there. The exhibition with the wreck of the shot down DC3 was very good, I had not read about that inicdent before. And of coruse all the Saab fighters there. Defintily a place to visit, even my GF liked it.
The new project will be build from what is left over in the spare part box.
It will be a Me262/2M. As the jet engines of the Me262 were not very reliable and even more not available in required numbers, there was the idea (it actually was) to use the Me262 air-frame with two piston engines instead of the jets. So lets see how this could have looked like.
This is what I found of a Me262 in the spare part box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020042611455.jpg)
Putting a few parts together:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020051011392.jpg)
The engines will be 3D printed and somehow connected to wings....
This will be interesting.
Wasn't there a turboprop proposal as well ? Or am I thinking of something else ?
The prototype had one piston engine in the nose, and no jets at all, if that's what you're thinking of?
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 10, 2020, 05:58:37 AM
The prototype had one piston engine in the nose, and no jets at all, if that's what you're thinking of?
I knew about that, but I could swear I've seen a turbo-prop proposal. May have got my whiffery and fact mixed up ?
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 10, 2020, 05:58:37 AMThe prototype had one piston engine in the nose, and no jets at all, if that's what you're thinking of?
Yes, the first prototype had a piston engine in the nose. i made a quite similar one as well: https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,39241.msg648264.html#msg648264 (https://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,39241.msg648264.html#msg648264)
But recently I read an article about the Me262 where it was stated that for a short time it was suggested to fit two prop engines instead of the jets to the plane as no jet engines were available. This idea was only followed for a short time, but I thought this might be something to try out.
Engines for the Me262/2M are printed and added to the wings. They are taken from a Me110 3D model and now need some putty&sanding:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200517095402.jpg)
Still don't know if I should use a prototype color scheme or a combat one.
At first glance, this has a slight tinge of DH Comet in appearance. Paint it red , give it the name of a German mansion and watch the JMNs all perform a mass formation BOGGLE!
Quote from: Flyer on May 17, 2020, 02:38:11 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on May 10, 2020, 05:54:34 AM
This will be interesting.
Wasn't there a turboprop proposal as well ? Or am I thinking of something else ?
Yes I've seen a pic or two of that, has ducted spinners and six bladed props, not sure if it was an actual proposal or the work of someone's imagination though, but I like the look of it. I think there is a conversion kit available for it also...
Glad it wasn't just me
The turbo prop version indeed was scheduled to have 6-bladed props with ducted spinners. From memory, they had of turbo-prop on the bench test but the war ended before the version was completed. The engines sat above the wing to help with ground clearance - just like the modern day Saab computer aircraft. Very pretty - lateral field of view was sub-optimal but she would have been fast.
Cheers gents, glad I hadn't simply imagined it :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on May 17, 2020, 01:54:23 AM
Engines for the Me262/2M are printed and added to the wings.
Pleasant silhouette! :wub:
It was a week of intensive putty&sanding, but now the engines are almost done:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200524120202.jpg)
They look quite massive on this plane, but they are identical to the ones of a Me110.
I know PSR is not fun, so I clap my hands to support... :thumbsup:
Looking great mate.
:thumbsup:
Another week of putty&sanding, but it's almost done.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020053110461.jpg)
Currently, I am preparing the main landing gear:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/me262_wheels.jpg)
First try did not print well, but the second attempt looks better:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20200531_115644312.jpg)
They do look good.
Trimming and cleaning them up is going to require good eyesight and a steady hand though.
Slowly, all parts come together.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200607105002.jpg)
The propellers are also taken form the Me110 3D model, engine exhausts are newly designed and printed.
This is a good continuation! :thumbsup:
We are quietly waiting for the finished result... <_<
Exhausts have been added to the engines. All required parts are now printed and must be put together.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200614103802.jpg)
:thumbsup: <_< ;D
For those who followed my engineer on twitter - I had to redo the propellers because the first version was too big. Cutting off the heads of all ants on the ground. So this was too dangerous and i had to make some new ones with a smaller diameter.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020062108582.jpg)
Now we can go and find some decals for it (some have to be custom made).
The silhouette is very nice, now fully different from a normal jet 262. :wub:
(For blades diameter, I would not have been shocked: propellers of a what-if desk model are not actually rotating, this is not a machine but an object!) ;)
Really cool project. :thumbsup:
Chris
:thumbsup:
Starting a new What-if plane, although I still do not know which one it will be and how it will be painted.
Either an Arado or Focke-Wulf jet bomber project. What I know is that i will use this kit as its base model:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200628101722.jpg)
A pretty simple one with only a few parts. I have some ideas what to change, but have to see if this works.
As I do not know jet how to paint it - some fictional Luft46 scheme - I now printed a 3D model of this plane to test some different camos on it.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020072611414.jpg)
I've always liked the Vautour, and have a couple of SH kits which I will build one day ;), but it does look very Luft46 in some ways and reminds me of a drawing I've seen of, I think a Focke Wulf project.
The main work so far was the camo test model which is done now. But i did not use the airbrush on it. Will do that on the "real" model.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020080213203.jpg)
Returning form vacation, work continues on the Focke Wulf jet bomber.
You see the age of the kit I use - fit quality is quite bad, so a lot of putty is used. Wings are only put together right now, they will be glues together after painting. The model is now ready to get its first colors:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20200906102704.jpg)
Good! :thumbsup:
Good luck
Regarding the 262 with props, the Germans did have a turboprop jet on the books. Only one engine was ready by war's end. However if you were to mount the main engine above the wing (same as the turbo props in eastern Australia that service regional areas), there is plenty of clearance. Despite all that, your model does look beautiful and has great lines. I look forward to the camo job. Good luck.
That's looking good. I also have one of the 1:100 Vautours in the stash, it's intimidating... But I had a similar idea for it: an 1:72 German WWII singe-seat fighter. :thumbsup:
Quote from: dumaniac on September 07, 2020, 01:19:47 AM
Regarding the 262 with props, the Germans did have a turboprop jet on the books. Only one engine was ready by war's end. However if you were to mount the main engine above the wing (same as the turbo props in eastern Australia that service regional areas), there is plenty of clearance. Despite all that, your model does look beautiful and has great lines. I look forward to the camo job. Good luck.
I had completed it a while ago, but as this one is a prototype, it has no real camo on it. However, here it is: https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48069.0 (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=48069.0)
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on September 07, 2020, 02:10:17 AM
That's looking good. I also have one of the 1:100 Vautours in the stash, it's intimidating... But I had a similar idea for it: an 1:72 German WWII singe-seat fighter. :thumbsup:
As I like some bombs at it, i guess mine will more a fighter bomber or ground attack aircraft.
This kit is so old, it has some markings on wings and hull where the original decals should be placed, like on some of the 1950s Revell kits. I assume this kit is also from the 1950s or early 60s.
Have a good vacation ?
I like the idea of it being a ground attack aircraft
Finally, I could continue to work on the FW attack plane.
Painting has started and a few small parts were 3D printed. Now everything waits to be put together.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020100415421.jpg)
Even better than expected... :thumbsup:
Looks good. :thumbsup:
Finally, all the "big" things have been put together.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020101810572.jpg)
I am now doing some tests for the armament, i.e. bomb load, not so sure if I should out the main bombs between the engines and the fuselage, or outside of the engines. Between engines and fuselage would be better regarding bomb weight, but i fear the gap it too narrow.
If you move the stabilisers to the wingtips then you could use the fuselage bays under the engines as bomb-bays.
Quote from: zenrat on October 18, 2020, 03:43:27 AM
If you move the stabilisers to the wingtips then you could use the fuselage bays under the engines as bomb-bays.
Yes, thought about it as well, but the big bombs are too big for that..... So i will go for an external bomb load, as it was mostly used on German planes.
:thumbsup:
What about a pair of glide bombs to give it some stand off ability ?
What about removing the doors and having the large bombs semi-recessed?
Like how the X-planes were carried under the B-50s?
Well, I finally went for a more "conventional" bomb load out.
A few bits and spots to fix, then I can check for decals.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020102511172.jpg)
The bomb load out:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020102511173.jpg)
:thumbsup:
(sorry I don't like bombs personally :-\ but) the view from below features wonderfully the monotrace undercarriage, good! :thumbsup:
I know this is "what-if" but I think the bomb load is high. Love the build and the concept. Looking forward to the camo.
Quote from: dumaniac on October 26, 2020, 03:39:15 AM
I know this is "what-if" but I think the bomb load is high. Love the build and the concept. Looking forward to the camo.
Second that - it's personal taste, but I'd leave away the huge bombs under the wing roots. They not only look a little too big and draggy, I am also certain that they's cause some serious air compression problems in this position? :o
However, makes me itch to dig out my 1:100 Vautour and looks for some donor engines... :angel:
OH, so you make me wonder if I should replace the big bombs again. Hmmm....
Talking about bombs - I guess I have a bit of "bomb fun" today. They found an old Britsh WW2 bomb about 1 km away from my home. Which has do be removed/detonated today. Evacuation zone is about 500m right now, so luckiely I am out of it. But I guess it will be a nice drive home, as every street there is already crowded.
They found quite a lot of those bombs here recently, American and British, but this one was the closest so far.
Glad your out of it :thumbsup:
They occasionally find unexploded Second World War bombs in London, but not to often nowadays. The place for unexploded munitions is the old First World War battlefields, farmers still dig/plough up hundreds of tonnes of them every year. They simply treat it as a fact of life :unsure:
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 26, 2020, 08:05:51 AM
Glad your out of it :thumbsup:
They occasionally find unexploded Second World War bombs in London, but not to often nowadays. The place for unexploded munitions is the old First World War battlefields, farmers still dig/plough up hundreds of tonnes of them every year. They simply treat it as a fact of life :unsure:
X2. :thumbsup:
Yeah, apparently the French EOD people are on the go constantly.
Not something I personally have any desire to do.
Looking good!
Lets go back in time, about 90 years. In the late 1920/early 1930s, Dornier developed a medium sized bomber family, the Do 11, Do13 and finally the Do 23. The last one was even used in WW2 in small numbers in secondary roles, even if it was completely outdated then.
This what if should be inspired by those Dornier planes, therefore its called the Do23/G-2.
As a base, I will use the old Matchbox model of the Handley Page Heyford. While the Dornier planes were no bi-planes, their general appearance was not too far away from the Heyford.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20201101110410.jpg)
In the box, we have the typical multi color Matchbox kit. However, this one already says "Made in China". Not all parts will be used, and some additional ones will be 3D printed.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20201101110511.jpg)
The main fuselage and lower gun stand
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20201108170504.jpg)
The cockpit interior will be a little bit extended, the floor is 3D printed.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020111516402.jpg)
The biggest modification so far is the tail, as the Dornier will have a single tail instead of the double tail of the Heyford. Parts are just put together with a test print of the tail.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020112213212.jpg)
The biggest challenge will definitely be the landing gear, as the lower wing will be removed.
That's looking interesting already. :thumbsup:
Very impressive. I hadn't seen this one.
Ah yeah..... this is fascinating! :mellow: :mellow:
Looking with interest what becomes of this, since I have a Heyford in The Stash™, too, but still without a good plan for it... :rolleyes:
<popcorn emoticon - munch munch>
This is going to be good :thumbsup:
After some tests, I found a shape for the new tail. This is the test print with the FDM printer, the "real" one will be made with the SLA printer as this will create smoother surfaces.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020112914423.jpg)
A quick test for wings, engines and fuselage to take a few measurements.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201123_201450697.jpg)
The original engines of the Heyford, with all the connections of the lower wing. As the Dornier will have no lower wing, most of them will be removed, but i have to keep one as support for the landing gear.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201124_202214420.jpg)
A first test for the landing gear mound. Plan is to put it over the original connections. The "disc" at the lower end was just for easier printing.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201128_094247453.jpg)
Putting a few thins together to find out what kind of parts must be printed.
Unfortunately, my printer is going a bit mad right now, so this is currently blocking a bit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020120609392.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2020120609403.jpg)
That's looking very promising.
It reminds me I should get on with my long delayed Heyford Monoplane too. :banghead:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2020, 05:04:22 AM
That's looking very promising.
It reminds me I should get on with my long delayed Heyford Monoplane too. :banghead:
And me with my monoplane floatplane one. :banghead:
Looking good.
Quote from: loupgarou on December 06, 2020, 05:32:19 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2020, 05:04:22 AM
That's looking very promising.
It reminds me I should get on with my long delayed Heyford Monoplane too. :banghead:
And me with my monoplane floatplane one. :banghead:
And me with my long winged monoplane.
Very interesting so far.
Well, fighting a lot with the 3D printers those days, they do not do what I want them to do. Especially the SLA printer got a bit mad.
Working on the the landing gear. Ok, I saw that I constructed it wrong, so back to construction.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201207_195514673.jpg)
Comparison: FDM (left) and SLA printer (right). The right print is much nicer.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201207_195538353.jpg)
And then the SLA printer started to play mad. So further tests for the landing gear had to be made with the FDM printer:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201217_195453195.jpg)
It now fits more or less. So this is the way to go. Now I hope that I can fix the printer issues.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20201217_195558820.jpg)
Solid, good! :thumbsup:
Like Little Red Riding Hood said:
"What big struts you have, grandma!" ;D
;D ;D ;D
With the beginning of the new year, i could fix the printer issues and make a final print of the landing gear. Yes, its quite massive, but those Do23s had a quite massive one. And in the end, it must be printed in a way that it does not collapse.
So, here is the construction with wheels mounted:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210103091402.jpg)
And a test to attach them to the wings:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210103091403.jpg)
now lets get it to the paint shop.
Congratulations! :thumbsup:
As Tophe says, that looks REALLY good. And it should suit the rest of the Heyford bits very well. :thumbsup:
That's looking very promising. :thumbsup:
That does look good :thumbsup:
Now working on the camo painting.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210110094801.jpg)
There will always be the exciting moment when you remove everything and see if your masking did work or not....
This project is fasst becoming a tease :rolleyes: ;)
The last camo color has been added.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210117092401.jpg)
Unfortunately, the masking did not work so well on several places, therefore a lot of "manual correction" is required.
That's looking VERY good! Love the different camo colours on it. :thumbsup:
This looks amazing. Camouflage has come out well.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 17, 2021, 03:02:38 AM
That's looking VERY good! Love the different camo colours on it. :thumbsup:
As do I :thumbsup:
Somehow, I always have some trouble making this German 1930s camo. All attemtps i made so far required a lot of manual "restauration" work after masking was removed. But i like this camo scheme :)
After fixing the camo masking issues, work can continue. Wings and fuselage are just put together for the photo, as more smaller parts now have to be added.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021012410112.jpg)
I still have to find out if those old Dornier bombers had an internal bomb bay or carried their bombs outside.
Oh YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
That's REALLY looking good now, the camo scheme is beyond excellent! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on January 24, 2021, 02:08:18 AM
I still have to find out if those old Dornier bombers had an internal bomb bay or carried their bombs outside.
The Do 23 carried its 1,000Kg internally.
Very cool.... Very inspiring!
:thumbsup:
Very striking camouflage scheme, I like it
Chris
Finally wings and fuselage are glues together. The crew is on board now, however those poor gunners had to loose one arm otherwise they would not have fit into. So I had to cut it off and glues it back to the gunner once they were in position.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021013110192.jpg)
Next will be the landing gear and some smaller parts.
As some mentioned the camo: This was one used by the Luftwaffe before WW2, you see this on pics of Ju 86 bombers. However, all Do23 I found were in plain grey, but as this is boring and we are in What-If world, I choose this camo here.
Better and better. :thumbsup:
I like those 'two level' props. ;)
I like that, particularly in the 3 coloured 1930's splinter camouflage :thumbsup:
Mind you I'm now "seeing" it in a "Lozenge" scheme :angel:
Neat, very neat.
Everything is in place now, the glossy finished as preparation for the decals is also added:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021020709492.jpg)
My engineer now checks the decals from the spare parts box, which ones are good to be used
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210207_095112187.jpg)
Nice, it's looking very German!
I agree with Dizzy! Very nice & very German! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
And VERY good too. :thumbsup:
I note you've got the engine exhausts on the sensible way round, unlike Handley Page and Rolls Royce who installed them facing FORWARDS! :o
That is looking good :thumbsup:
Quite funny that you wrote that it looks "very German" - as its 80% of the original Heyford. I just removed the lower wing, added a single fin tail and made a new landing gear. Plus a different camo of course.
@PR19_Kit: Ahm, yes, I first did not believe that the original had the exhausts looking forward. I wonder it the engineers stood in front of them too long to get such an idea...
The Arado Ar-80 was one of the competitors of the Me 109 in the competition for a new single seat fighter.
It failed, as the Messerschmidt design was much more advanced. But what if there would have been a potential customer for this plane?
Lets start a What-If.
This is the box of the Huma 1/72 kit:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021022809446.jpg)
And this is in there- not so much:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021022809457.jpg)
This will be an alternative paint job, so the model itself will be build OOB.
Be interested to see who your user is :thumbsup:
I've a fondness for these old Huma kits
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 28, 2021, 03:00:57 AM
I've a fondness for these old Huma kits.
I've got a few of them too, and they always struck me as being very well engineered, especially the one they did of the Fw Triebflugal.
Quote from: nönöbär on February 28, 2021, 02:49:40 AM
The Arado Ar-80 was one of the competitors of the Me 109 in the competition for a new single seat fighter.
It failed, as the Messerschmidt design was much more advanced. But what if there would have been a potential customer for this plane?
Lets start a What-If.
Possibly one of the Balkan states, perhaps or a South American air force such as Chile or Argentina?
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 28, 2021, 04:03:40 AM
I've got a few of them too, and they always struck me as being very well engineered, especially the one they did of the Fw Triebflugal.
While collecting my various model boxes for my move, I found some old Huma kits, including the Triblugel. It really was a nice kit. They were masters of low pressure molding - the white plastic they used responded beautifully to cement and the fit was usually very good to excellent. Their Me P.1101 was the only model I remember having an issue with - the fuselage panel lines didn't line up.
Quote from: Rheged on February 28, 2021, 05:38:39 AM
Possibly one of the Balkan states, perhaps or a South American air force such as Chile or Argentina?
Well, nice idea, but it will go into another direction on the map...
Quote from: nönöbär on February 28, 2021, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: Rheged on February 28, 2021, 05:38:39 AM
Possibly one of the Balkan states, perhaps or a South American air force such as Chile or Argentina?
Well, nice idea, but it will go into another direction on the map...
Turkey ? I would say Nationalist Chinese, but given the German pact with Japan that's not really on.
My engineer is studying the instructions, but it does not seem to be that complicated this time, Especially as we do not have to design some new parts.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210307_095107422.jpg)
This is what will be inside of the plane. Not much, but it seems that parts fit quite good together.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021030708583.jpg)
And regarding the operator of this aircraft, maybe you should guess a bit more north....
The beauty of simple and clear instructions :thumbsup:
Putting the parts together and adding the first color
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210314095206.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Mongolian? :unsure:
Painting has been completed, just the windscreen is missing.
Now preparing the decals for it.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210321090908.jpg)
@Old Wombat: No Mongolian, did they had aircraft in the 1930s?
congratulations! :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on March 21, 2021, 02:59:34 AM
@Old Wombat: No Mongolian, did they had aircraft in the 1930s?
Some Soviet types, although they initially had some Junkers types for civil/military use in the 20's. That's from Wiki' although I confirmed it in a book I have on Soviet between the Wars history - index's are wonderful things ;D
A sleek aircraft. :thumbsup:
Lets start with something more "modern". A BAC Lighning, but with a different operator.
Got this old Airfix kit a while ago on ebay.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210321090302.jpg)
When opening the box, there was quite some surprise, there were actually two kits (seem to be complete) in the box. But no instructions or decals. As those are quite simple kits, and instruction is not really needed and i need new decals anyway.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210321090404.jpg)
Its definitely an old kit, not very detailed, so the first steps of the construction went quite well, although quite some putty was required.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210322_195751239.jpg)
Add some weight and a floor in the cockpit
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210404_094849015.jpg)
Putty and sanding
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210410_203728234.jpg)
My engineer makes the final checks before painting
Its now ready to go to the airbrush cabin.
Quote from: nönöbär on April 11, 2021, 05:07:27 AM
there were actually two kits (seem to be complete) in the box
Perfect for a BAC Twin-Lightning F.33! completing the P-38 Lightning! ;D
Quote from: Tophe on April 11, 2021, 05:57:26 AM
Quote from: nönöbär on April 11, 2021, 05:07:27 AM
there were actually two kits (seem to be complete) in the box
Perfect for a BAC Twin-Lightning F.33! completing the P-38 Lightning! ;D
Somehow, I expected that from you.... :)
But no Twin-Lightning as I can use the other kit for another project.
Quote from: nönöbär on April 11, 2021, 06:03:00 AM
But no Twin-Lightning as I can use the other kit for another project.
Of course, do as you prefer. It is normal that my kind of craziness is not striking everyone ;) ;D
I did think, once, about how to build a Lightning with 4 engines in a cruciform layout (with a space in-between for cooling), but I wasn't at all sure where to put the sorely needed additional fuel ...
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LOVE it! :wub:
They'd be VERY fast, and climb like a homesick angel, so long as the enemy was INSIDE the airfield perimeter. ;D
Might be easier like this
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You could build it with two Lightning fuselages side by side that way. ;)
Quote from: Scotaidh on April 11, 2021, 08:13:41 AM
but I wasn't at all sure where to put the sorely needed additional fuel ...
No need of fuel at all! (on our scale models, not actually flying, just being dreamy objects) ;)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 11, 2021, 08:20:07 AM
LOVE it! :wub:
They'd be VERY fast, and climb like a homesick angel, so long as the enemy was INSIDE the airfield perimeter. ;D
Might be easier like this
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You could build it with two Lightning fuselages side by side that way. ;)
I do have a project that does just that, although it's two sets of pairs of engines all set to go into a larger, single air-fame, so what was a 4-engined craft becomes an 8-engined craft. I'm just not sure the increase in thrust is worth the increased fuel burn
My engineer worked a bit on the Lightning. So after adding and sanding it, she checks the result:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210410_203725843.jpg)
And starting to paint it
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/IMG_20210417_201125674.jpg)
Ready to get the next colors
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210418080202.jpg)
congratulations to this cute little engineer ;)
Coming along nicely :thumbsup:
Looking a wee bit Scottish. ;)
Quote from: Old Wombat on April 18, 2021, 06:29:52 AM
Looking a wee bit Scottish. ;)
Hmm, I wonder why you got this impression... ;D
More likely Lightning Training Flight. They had a blue fin and spine.
Ooooh this is looking good ! Can't wait to see more.
:thumbsup:
Nice.
Re overpowered Lightnings, I had an ideas for a thre-engined one, with two engines in the upper position fed by Mirage-style intakes the radome enlarged to make the lower engine's intake a chin intake, and a tandem two-seat cockpit.
Most of the painting has been done now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021042509032.jpg)
Unfortunately, the fuselage was damaged when adding the wings, so I had to use putty, sanding and repaint it.
Now all the smaller parts (not much of them anyway) and then preparing some decals.
I'm intrigued to see what this will end up looking like and who it will belong to ?
Well, I guess this should not too hard to guess now.
Royal Scots Air Force?
The Lightning is now standing on its wheels, a few more things have to be added.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210502092602.jpg)
In parallel, I am working on the decals. Recently I had an issue with decals printed on white decal paper that it did not work. As i have three different brands of it here, i tested it and found out that it is number 2. Putting it in warm water, the decals do not separate from the paper. Better to throw them away.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20210502092703.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on May 02, 2021, 04:09:51 AM
In parallel, I am working on the decals. Recently I had an issue with decals printed on white decal paper that it did not work. As i have three different brands of it here, i tested it and found out that it is number 2. Putting it in warm water, the decals do not separate from the paper. Better to throw them away.
Doesn't that sort of thing REALLY irritate you? :banghead:
How can the manufacturers call it 'decal paper' when it doesn't pass the most basic of QC checks? Grrrrrrrrr.....
Needless to say I've had exactly the same problems with a batch I bought some years ago. I'm still waiting for my refund...... :banghead:
..speaking of which, gentlemen - what liquid decal fluid do you use to reinforce the printed decal? I had a plastic bottle for many years, containing some magic liquid decal film, but one day, the bottle broke and I haven't been able to source a replacement.
Suggestions?
For my own home printed decals, and for strengthening ones that tend to fall apart (are you listening Hasegawa San?) I use Keen Crystal Clear spray.
Not easy to get hold of in the UK these days as there's only one place that sells it :banghead: but it's imported so it may be easier to find elsewhere.
After printing decals, I let them dry for 24 hours. Then I use Mr. Metal Primer-R from Mr. Hobby and print over it with a normal brush. Let it dry again for 24 hours and add another layer of it.
I always liked the Me110, even if it was not such a good aircraft in its originally intended role.
So, starting the an 1/72 scale Airfix kit (which seems to be quite good so far), this should be a Me110 used by KG200 zbV (zur besonderen Verwendung), operating in an usual location.
This is the box
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20211010094302.jpg)
And this is what is in there
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20211010094403.jpg)
Starting with the interior first
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021103111125.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021103111124.jpg)
Good start! :thumbsup:
Just reading this issue you blokes have had with decal..when i was building my M60 digger thingy i wanted to use these full cammo decal sheets that come in trumpeters figure sets..ummn yeah that didnt work..they are so stiff even microsol couldnt soften them and they just shredded when i tried to slide em off the paper..very strange since their not that old.
Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on October 31, 2021, 11:09:01 AM
Just reading this issue you blokes have had with decal..
Recently I had some decals printed on a 5 colour laser printer. All colours (except black) have a white printed layer underneath. Opacity is reasonable and the resolution is fine.
I design my decals using Adobe Illustrator and have them printed by https://www.printmetwit.nl/ (https://www.printmetwit.nl/). Their website is in Dutch and English and their prices are very reasonable.
TomZ
While i have to fetch a few colors, the pilot and gunner are on board. Their flight gear gives a little hint where this plane might operate.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021110711204.jpg)
Still waiting for the colors to arrive, some more parts are prepared. So far, it looks as if all parts of the Airfix kit fit quite good.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021111411241.png)
Quote from: nönöbär on November 14, 2021, 03:53:47 AM
So far, it looks as if all parts of the Airfix kit fit quite good.
Maybe there is still a lot of work to do if you plan an asymmetric version with propellers in nose + starboard, no? ;)
Quote from: nönöbär on November 07, 2021, 03:47:24 AM
While i have to fetch a few colors, the pilot and gunner are on board. Their flight gear gives a little hint where this plane might operate.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel2021110711204.jpg&hash=32fb101a362b1102f95bbe5da7400f3f830cb547)
Hoth? :angel:
@Tophe: No asymetric plane this time, sorry.... ;D I know that you like them.
@zenrat: Hmmmm..... But wasn't Hoth in a galaxy far away a long time ago? How should a Luftwaffe Me110 go there. :) But for the real operational area, i would think its a very similar envirement then on Hoth.
Quote from: nönöbär on November 15, 2021, 06:15:52 AM
@zenrat: Hmmmm..... But wasn't Hoth in a galaxy far away a long time ago? How should a Luftwaffe Me110 go there. :) But for the real operational area, i would think its a very similar envirement then on Hoth.
So...North Dakota (or the Canadian Great Plains) in the winter?
@scooter: I wonder if there is the same kind of wildlife in North Dakota as on Hoth? An I heard rumors that sometimes, unwanted visitors arrive at Hoth, I hope they do not arrive on North Dakota as well.
And btw, nothing new on the model, still waiting for colors to arrive.
Finally, the paint has arrived, so the first color is added to the Me110. Looks not so impressive now, but it will change a bit when everything is done. At least I hope so :)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021120510174.jpg)
Interested in seeing this finished. I've always had a liking for the 110, but have always struggled with producing a model that at the end of the day I liked regardless of the base kit I used. :-\
May have to read some kit reviews and revisit it ?
@NARSES2: So far, this Airfix kit is quite good.
Next color added, so right now it looks like a a normal Luftwaffe camo paint job. But this will change... And I hope that it will work what I plan to do.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2021121911254.jpg)
Intriguing!
Quote from: nönöbär on December 19, 2021, 02:49:39 AM
@Narses2: So far, this Airfix kit is quite good.
Thanks :thumbsup:
More work done for the Me110, its now ready for the next color layer:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022010911543.jpg)
Adding some decals to the model before the next layer of paint is added. I really wonder if it works what I plan to do....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20220116101601.jpg)
Congratulations! :thumbsup:
Remove the wings and tail and you have a great 1950s B movie rocket.
Last decals added, now the final paint layer can be added. Hope that this will not destroy everything...
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022012310572.jpg)
Looking very tidy so far!
Its got two engines so i automatically like it and its a M110 which is another twin i like and this one so far is looking pretty damn sweet..im going to keep my eye on this one :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on January 27, 2022, 10:21:21 PM
i automatically like it and its a M110 which is another twin
Let me increase its TWIN amount... ;)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2Fbf-110z-1vw.jpg&hash=563dcc34c243510270f69c74933d4c8de1af1775)
= link http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/bf-110z-1vw.jpg
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 17, 2012, 05:11:22 AM
I'm not a fan of the F5 or F20 but it's looking good in that Scheme
What??
But the F-5 is so pretty!
Quote from: kitbasher on January 28, 2022, 12:46:38 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 17, 2012, 05:11:22 AM
I'm not a fan of the F5 or F20 but it's looking good in that Scheme
What??
But the F-5 is so pretty!
Sorry, I don't think pretty at all when I see an F.5. The nose just spoils it I'm afraid.
As I am running into some issues with the Me110 - which will hopefully resolved soon, I started with another small aircraft kit.
Its a KP model MiG 17 - a very old, simply, basic and horrible kit, I really do not know why i had this one in my stock of models. So lets make something WhatIf out of it.
This is the model box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022042411151.jpg)
And this is the model:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022042411162.jpg)
Starting to build the cockpit, lets call the parts a bit "rough":
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20220425_180545380.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20220430_115014197.jpg)
Installing it into the aircraft:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.german-navy.de%2Fweb%2FScaleModels%2FScaleModel2022050109155.jpg&hash=461134dabfb9a611b76cc128b4f7738a253a303c)
I guess this will be some "fun" to build...
At least it's got a cockpit ;D :thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on May 01, 2022, 06:38:59 AMAt least it's got a cockpit ;D :thumbsup:
Oh yes, but still those KP kits are really a bit dated.
No all "major" things are added, so lets prepare it for painting.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20220506_175905618.jpg)
Oh, man! It's been molested by the Phantom Riveter! :o
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 08, 2022, 04:23:56 AM
Oh, man! It's been molested by the Phantom Riveter! :o
That's Comrade Riveter to you, sunny! ;)
It's a better cockpit than the Hasegawa MiG 17.
Those early KP kits brought new meaning to the term 'rivetted'.
I've got a few of the very first KP kit, their original L-29 Delfin kit which came in a plastic bag, like a vintage Airfix kit. The rivets on that kit are almost UNBELIEVABLE! :o
@zenrat: Really? In the end, this kit is not too bad for its time, just the production qulity is not the best.
@PR19_Kit: :) This is solid Soviet technology, big rivets keep things together better :)
Yes. Hasegawa cockpit is IIRC just a floor with a seat on it and a small Instrument panel attached inside the fuselage.
I have one of these in the stash. I'll have to dig it out and have a look.
Quote from: zenrat on May 09, 2022, 03:09:05 AM
Yes. Hasegawa cockpit is IIRC just a floor with a seat on it and a small Instrument panel attached inside the fuselage.
Yup, there's a few early Hasegawa kits like that.
The KP kits are products of the 70s, some better than others, but they did some unique subjects that even now have yet to be done.
I got the KP Delphins via a Czech pen friend in '73 I think.
He turned out to be the official photographer for the Czech Air Force at the time! :o
I've always thought the B-47 fuselage was perfect for a 1950's B movie rocketship design. Paint it rattle can silver and you're go to go.
Quote from: kerick on May 09, 2022, 09:42:48 AM
I've always thought the B-47 fuselage was perfect for a 1950's B movie rocketship design. Paint it rattle can silver and you're go to go.
True enough!
Find too, gotta have fins even when traveling in a vacuum!
Masking is done, ready to paint now
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022051510021.jpg)
And yes, you can build interesting things from a B-47, something like this for example:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20140202174414.jpg)
https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,38376.msg627715.html#msg627715 (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,38376.msg627715.html#msg627715)
Coming along nicely :thumbsup: and thanks for the reminder of the Me 247
Oh that ME 247 looks like a real design ..just seems like its ment to be ..very nice paint too :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: ;D
The Me-247 is beautiful. :wub:
First color (of four) is added and masking for it is applied.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022052209041.jpg)
Unfortunately, the Me110 got damaged beyond repair, one of those projects that have to be cancelled :(
Some progress on the MiG 17, looks horrible right now with three of the four camo colors brushed. The big day will come when all of the masking will be removed, I hope its no "Oh no!" day....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022060510051.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on June 05, 2022, 02:58:01 AM
The big day will come when all of the masking will be removed, I hope its no "Oh no!" day....
In the what-if Universe, maybe there is not a "Oh no!" day: "different from expected" means "creative somehow" which could be regarded as positive... ;)
Sorry to hear about the 110 :-\, but good to see progress on the Mig :thumbsup:
All the masking has been removed and some correction work is rewired. But it could have been much worse.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022061911044.jpg)
This is good (according to me) :thumbsup:
That's a nice looking camo :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Camo has cleaned up a (almost done now) and I started to work on the decals.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022062610421.jpg)
First decal test print
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022062611132.jpg)
Looking good man :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
;D
Starting to add the first decals after putting a glossy finish on the plane.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022071010592.jpg)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
More decals added and made it look a bit "used".
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022071710261.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20220709_175043063.jpg)
LOVE the special roundels! :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 17, 2022, 04:03:27 AM
LOVE the special roundels! :thumbsup:
Me to :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
The MiG is standing in its wheels now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2022072410101.jpg)
Now the smaller parts have to be added, antennas, tanks, etc.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Starting a new year is a good reason to start a new model.
Don't know if this will be a What-If,, want to try something new (for me) while painting it.
This is a HobbyBoss F86 Sabre in 1/72 scale:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2022121814411.jpg)
I always like how they present the model in the box, but of course this is not so ecological friendly.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2022121814432.jpg)
Cockpit is made already:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023010114006.jpg)
Upper and lower part of the plane, only two parts
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023010114007.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023010114008.jpg)
Everything is now in place for masking and painting:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023010815591.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023010816002.jpg)
A quick shot form the airbrush cabin...WIP
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023012214391.jpg)
:thumbsup:
The Sabre is sexier with anhedral tailplane rather than dihedral. It will also be ridiculously stable in the landing circuit.. ;)
Still in the process of masking - catastrophes in other projects prevented it to continue faster.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023012911351.jpg)
Finally, the main paint job is done, now lets concentrate on the little details.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023021912551.jpg)
Those colours actually make me think "RAF". ;)
Looking forward to the finished product! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on February 19, 2023, 04:55:04 AMThose colours actually make me think "RAF". ;)
Agreed :thumbsup:
It took much longer than expected, but now the Luftwaffe F86 is completed. A non-WhatIF, I used this HobbyBoss kit to try some things with oil painted i wanted to do for a while.
This one is 1/72 scale, build OOB, and I really like those simple HobbyBoss kits for a quick build (even if this was not quick, it took 111 days to complete).
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023041612341.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023041612342.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023041612343.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023041612344.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023041612345.jpg)
:thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Come out really well :thumbsup:
Nice! :thumbsup:
Something that has been on my build list for a while now.
The DFS 346, an experimental German rocket plane which was intended to break the sound barrier. One partly completed prototype was captured by the Soviet Union at the end of WW2 and later completed and flown as the OKB-2 346. It reached speeds of 950 kph but then the pilot lost control had had to activate the rescue system. The plane crashed and was destroyed.
But for the What-If world, this will be made differently actually, this will be part one of a two part model.
This is an old Huma hit in scale 1/72:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023021913032.jpg)
Not many parts, but this kit has among the smallest injection parts I had seen so far. Hard to say how this can be build.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023021913043.jpg)
Only slow progress for the DFS 346, those tiny parts are really tricky to put together.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230310_185409665.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230310_185425452.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230315_184300970.jpg)
When build, I fear not much of this will be visible.
That's really nice work on the couch and pilot figure :thumbsup:
Again with the nearly microscopic printed parts! :o :bow: :bow: :bow:
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 21, 2023, 07:47:28 AMAgain with the nearly microscopic printed parts! :o :bow: :bow: :bow:
Nothing 3D printed here (yet.... ;D ) those are very tiny and fragile injected parts from the kit.
Oops! Missed that sprue in the photo. :rolleyes:
Still, good work not destroying them getting them off & together! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 21, 2023, 11:02:25 AMStill, good work not destroying them getting them off & together! :thumbsup:
Very much so :thumbsup:
The nose section is now put together, very fragile to construct it
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230401_152603991.jpg)
The poor pilot has not much space inside the plane.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230402_115325041.jpg)
Most parts are now assembled, so it now starts to look like an aircraft.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230407_084854805.jpg)
That's starting to look sweet mate 👌 👍 😀
Certainly not a manned V-2, any more! ;)
Unless, of course, it is but with different control surfaces?! :unsure: ;D :thumbsup:
Great job so far! I built this kit years ago. It was at the peak of Huma's engineering and mold making. It was an enjoyable build (even with the "plastic photoetch"). I miss Huma and I wish they could have stayed in business.
Quote from: frank2056 on June 04, 2023, 09:57:44 AMI miss Huma and I wish they could have stayed in business.
You and me both, they made some great stuff and did it in their own particular way. :thumbsup:
I've got their Ju 288 sitting looking at me as I type this................ ;) ;)
I to liked Huma, still have a couple in the stash
I also have a few Huma kits waiting to be build, the Ju 287 and the FA-223. But I am a bit afraid about the last one.
I'd love to build the FA-223... but it is scary. I don't know how the Huma and AMP/Mikro-Mir models compare, but the AMP sprue shots (https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235020342-172-focke-achgelis-fa-223avia-vr-3-fa-225-by-mikromir-fa-223-fa-225-released-avia-vr-1-release-april-2018/) look challenging.
Now everything has been added, masked and preparing to be painted.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230422_170607768.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Fresh form the paint-shop
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230702_081019391.jpg)
VERY metallic looking. :thumbsup:
Reminds me of the early illustrations of "proposed" supersonic airliners & space-planes,
Looking good! :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Very very noice 👍 😀
Quote from: Old Wombat on July 02, 2023, 03:32:18 AMReminds me of the early illustrations of "proposed" supersonic airliners & space-planes,
Looking good! :thumbsup:
Indeed :thumbsup:
Masking removed, now its ready for decals.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20230708_085642600.jpg)
The DFS 346 is now completed. As this will be one part of a two part model, I have to start the second part now. But still waiting for some parts to arrive.
So here are some pics of the DFS 346:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023070911052.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023070911055.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023070911053.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/Scalemodell2023070911054.jpg)
Very nice metal finish! :lol:
Yeah that's what got my attention to..very very nice 👌 👍
Very classy! :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on July 16, 2023, 02:48:24 AMVery nice metal finish! :lol:
Really nice finish :thumbsup:
I have not build a helicopter for a long time, so lets do it again.
This will be a UH-34, HobbyBoss model in 1/72:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023102212335.jpg)
This is in the box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023102212346.jpg)
But of course this will be painted in a completely different color scheme and operator. And it will be modified in some ways.
Very nice metalic on that one!! :wub: :thumbsup: :wub: :mellow:
Starting with the cockpit, this one worked quite good, all parts fitted as they should
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023102912501.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023102912502.jpg)
Work progressed on various other parts as well
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023102912503.jpg)
My fav heli of all time 👍👍👍
Watching this like a hawk I will be ;)
I like those HobbyBoss models. they have a quite good fit quality. And they are pretty cheap usually.
The interior is completed so far:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023110512192.jpg)
More of the other parts are made and painted
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023110512193.jpg)
Starting to add everything to the hull
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023110512354.jpg)
As this is a What-If model, some additional parts need to be printed.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023102915051.jpg)
Yeech! What are those things ? Dragon's drool ? ;D
Quote from: loupgarou on November 05, 2023, 10:25:36 AMYeech! What are those things ? Dragon's drool ? ;D
Ice dragon snot
At least I was going with "crystal chandeliers"! :rolleyes:
Nice ! Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
I know, using transparent resing makes it almost impossible to the what is printed there. But I can confirm, that no dragon is involved.... :)
Obviously chandeliers for the interior...
I've built a couple of 1/72 Hobby Boss choppers and thoroughly enjoyed them.
What I like to do with a UH-34/Wessex is add a second door on the LH side.
Quote from: zenrat on November 07, 2023, 02:24:23 AMWhat I like to do with a UH-34/Wessex is add a second door on the LH side.
Yeah, why didn't they do that in the RW? It's so ruddy obvious!
Maybe a structural reason, doors need holes to cover and they're weak spots. (My old structural testing brain at full throttle here....)
Of course they DID do that with the Puma, the Wessex's successor.
I wish someone would make this in a larger scale..48th is fine but 35th would be much better 😊
I might have to bite the bullet and get a 48th one 🤔
More doors equal less seats unless you run them down the middle facing outwards.
Quote from: kerick on November 07, 2023, 03:07:27 PMMore doors equal less seats unless you run them down the middle facing outwards.
Which is exactly what they did with the Puma..................
Quote from: Wardukw on November 07, 2023, 09:13:17 AMI wish someone would make this in a larger scale..48th is fine but 35th would be much better 😊
I might have to bite the bullet and get a 48th one 🤔
I have one ... maybe two? ... Wessexes in 1/48.
1/35 would be nice but that's about as likely as me getting my CH-53D/E in 1/35, although I hold out small hope that ICM may, one day, produce one.
After all, they produced this:
(https://www.bnamodelworld.com/image/cache2/1000x1000_contain/catalog/icm/ICM53054.webp?v=61)
Actually, my stash of unbuilt 1/35 helicopters is getting a bit silly - I
really should build some!*
[*: He says of just about everything in his stash. :rolleyes: ]
Quote from: Old Wombat on November 08, 2023, 06:25:07 AMQuote from: Wardukw on November 07, 2023, 09:13:17 AMI wish someone would make this in a larger scale..48th is fine but 35th would be much better 😊
I might have to bite the bullet and get a 48th one 🤔
I have one ... maybe two? ... Wessexes in 1/48.
1/35 would be nice but that's about as likely as me getting my CH-53D/E in 1/35, although I hold out small hope that ICM may, one day, produce one.
After all, they produced this:
(https://www.bnamodelworld.com/image/cache2/1000x1000_contain/catalog/icm/ICM53054.webp?v=61)
Actually, my stash of unbuilt 1/35 helicopters is getting a bit silly - I really should build some!*
[*: He says of just about everything in his stash. :rolleyes: ]
Trust me mate it's possible your pile of choppers ain't that bad.
I picked up the 2 Su27s ..the Ventura and the Invader yesterday and this gents collection was awesome..well over 200 aircraft and he would have had at least 40 helicopters including H34s and Wessex's ..it was really impressive Guy..all very well made.
I don't mind the Wessex but there's just something about this helicopter I really like ..and I don't know why ;D
I think he's got every CH-53 model you can get in 72nd and 48th .
He told me he's built a heap of models for the Ardmore Museum..it's a smallish airfield in Auckland..says there's over 2000 models there..dude I gotta see that ;D :thumbsup:
No dragons this time but the UH-34 is now ready to be painted:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023111213451.jpg)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Looking good ! Aways been a fan of that shape.
And now the real fun begins....
Painting, masking, painting, masking and so on. Two of 6 colors added. More to come.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023111913471.jpg)
Really looking forward to this :thumbsup:
SIX colours!? :o
I usually think four is going to extremes! :blink:
The Luftwaffe's Norm '81 scheme for the F-4Fs used no less than six shades of grey - and it was even standardized in two patterns.
Quote from: Old Wombat on November 19, 2023, 10:44:17 PMSIX colours!? :o
I usually think four is going to extremes! :blink:
Similar to my initial thoughts and then I thought "he can't be referring to the main camouflage colours", but then I thought "but maybe ?".
I've taken out shares in the producers of masking tape ;D
I must correct myself, its only five colors, had to modify it a bit. As its a fictional camo, its ok this way.
And it is no Norm 81 :)
Corrently I am working on adding color number 4. And the exiting part will be when the masking will removed and you can see if there is some kind of deasater or not :)
Quote from: nönöbär on November 22, 2023, 03:59:35 AMCorrently I am working on adding color number 4. And the exiting part will be when the masking will removed and you can see if there is some kind of deasater or not :)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on November 22, 2023, 03:59:35 AMI must correct myself, its only five colors, had to modify it a bit. As its a fictional camo, its ok this way.
And it is no Norm 81 :)
Corrently I am working on adding color number 4. And the exiting part will be when the masking will removed and you can see if there is some kind of deasater or not :)
I tend to think of that moment as "terrifying" rather than "exciting". :-\
Quote from: Old Wombat on November 23, 2023, 01:06:27 AMQuote from: nönöbär on November 22, 2023, 03:59:35 AMI must correct myself, its only five colors, had to modify it a bit. As its a fictional camo, its ok this way.
And it is no Norm 81 :)
Corrently I am working on adding color number 4. And the exiting part will be when the masking will removed and you can see if there is some kind of deasater or not :)
I tend to think of that moment as "terrifying" rather than "exciting". :-\
Must admit that my feelings when it comes to peeling the tape away tend towards that as well, but there's a certain "pump fist in the air" moment if it's worked out well ;D
I once tried using candle wax to mask a wing ...
Worked a treat until I tried to paint the areas that had the wax on them ... none of my paints would stick.
:banghead: :banghead:
Well, after removing the masking, no big problem occured. A few small patches to fix, but this is ok.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023112612342.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023112612343.jpg)
Two more colors are missing, so I now have to re-mask it.
And some time ago I posted the pics of the 3D printer, the dragon-something as it was called. Well, actually it is this:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023112612321.jpg)
However, it only looks good form this side, the other is quite ugly. So I have to reprint this in several parts, hope this will work better.
Camouflage looks good :thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 26, 2023, 05:46:14 AMCamouflage looks good :thumbsup:
It certainly does! :thumbsup:
The stub-wings look like they'll turn out pretty good, too! :lol:
All colors are now painted, now its time to correct those spots where masking did not work so well....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023120314102.jpg)
The new wings and weapons directly from the 3D printer.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023112620201.jpg)
Starting to paint those things. However, I found out that the AA missiles had too tiny wings to prints. So have to redo them. Also, all the prints of the left wing were a bit faulty, so have to print them again
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023120314103.jpg)
New missiles and wings, next try.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023120314134.jpg)
Paintwork is :thumbsup: :thumbsup: and the 3D stuff is just :bow:
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 04, 2023, 07:04:29 AMthe 3D stuff is just :bow:
Definitely not ice dragon snot this time around :wacko: :thumbsup:
Really like the camo! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This is looking really good, I think I am going to have to bite the bullet and get myself a 3D printer next year.
A bit more progress, it has some wheels now.
But i do not think I will use the big gun on it. Somehow, it blocks the weapons on the wings.... Not such a good idea.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023121013041.jpg)
Now that's what I call camouflage! :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2023, 04:49:27 AMNow that's what I call camouflage! :thumbsup:
You and me both
Finally, with the rotor, it looks like a real helicopter
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2023122916081.jpg)
Also started to work on the decals. I wonder if someone guesses where this thing will be flying....
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2023, 04:49:27 AMNow that's what I call camouflage! :thumbsup:
(https://i.postimg.cc/67szQLZb/71dL94Z3KjL._SL1500_.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67szQLZb)
That looks beautiful in all that gray ...glad all that paint wasn't to heavy for the model :wacko: ;D
:thumbsup: :wub:
Quote from: loupgarou on December 29, 2023, 10:56:47 AMQuote from: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2023, 04:49:27 AMNow that's what I call camouflage! :thumbsup:
(https://i.postimg.cc/67szQLZb/71dL94Z3KjL._SL1500_.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67szQLZb)
Tut, tut :rolleyes:
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 30, 2023, 03:23:09 AMQuote from: loupgarou on December 29, 2023, 10:56:47 AMQuote from: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2023, 04:49:27 AMNow that's what I call camouflage! :thumbsup:
(https://i.postimg.cc/67szQLZb/71dL94Z3KjL._SL1500_.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67szQLZb)
Tut, tut :rolleyes:
Yes, it may be greys (plus a couple of decent splashes of
red) but it's not
boring greys, it's
exciting greys! ;D :thumbsup:
All decals have been added now. All decals? No, the self printed ones did not work as they should. Only the blue one with the polar bear did. So I have to redo them.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2024010717591.jpg)
Wings and rotor will be added later, when all decals are done. Easier to add them this way.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2024010717483.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Very cool. And potent !
Maybe I missed it but is this a sea going camo pattern?
Looks really cool!
The first new What-If for this year.
This one will be based on this old Airfix kit
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240107_145125283.jpg)
This kit was a "used" one which I got from ebay many years ago. Hope that everything is ok and nothing is missing
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240107_145311512.jpg)
The model will be a Luftwaffe He 177 LSP. I will tell more later what "LSP" stands for.
I remember building that when it first came out
As the transparent parts of this model will not allow to see much of the interior of this plan (they are too thick), I will not enhance the interior it at all.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240116_183657922.jpg)
First part where i will do something are the cooler intakes. They are very basic. So I just made a simple placeholder to check the dimensions of the new part, the final one will then be printed with the resin printer
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240116_183718384.jpg)
One of the bigger changes for the He 177 LSP will be the rudders, there will be more than one.
This is a first test print with the filament printer to see if the dimensions are right and how it looks, the final print will be made with the resin printer.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240116_183745192.jpg)
Continuing with the cockpit with is indeed very basic for those old kits.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240117_181821131.jpg)
These pilots looks very good , they don't make them this way today :banghead:
Removing the original rudder. Unfortunately it looks as if the fuselage is a bit twisted, its a quite old kit.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240117_182015309.jpg)
As feared, quite some force is required to get it in shape. A lot of putty is required here. The orange printed part on top is for measurement only
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240121_103207735.jpg)
I take it your Engineer is calibrating the various forces required to join the fuselage together ? ;)
The He177 is only a slow running project currently as I am concentrating on the Reban space ship. But some more progress
More work has been don in the interior of the fuselage. But the tail gun will be removed, as I do not need it for the He 177 LSP.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240128_095756315.jpg)
Finally, some parts that are completed: The engines.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240128_095815888.jpg)
Something that can happen with used kits: One part is missing. One half of one of the flame extinguisher is missing (see lower part). So I guess I have to recreate and 3D print them
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240128_095831383.jpg)
A bit more work on the "cockpit"
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240204_103654990.jpg)
And what I feared before, the fuselage parts are in a not-so-good shape. Had to use quite some force to put them together. And now the old putty-and-sanding song will be played.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240211_111854983.jpg)
The resin print of one of the new rudders.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240212_175717568.jpg)
I think we all have our own "putty and sanding songs". Just wondering what your engineer's is ? :angel:
I concentrated on the wings now.
The new resin-printed cooler intake is added
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240213_181252994.jpg)
Unfortunately, this wing is a bit out of shape... :(
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240217_091352081.jpg)
I completely underestimated the size of the He 177. Compared to other German bombers, this plane is big.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240218_104308418.jpg)
The 3D printed replacement for the flame extinguishers at the exhaust are done, Look pretty similar than the original.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240218_104630855.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on March 24, 2024, 03:53:46 AMI completely underestimated the size of the He 177. Compared to other German bombers, this plane is big.
It's like a Luftwaffe Lanc size-wise. :o
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 24, 2024, 05:28:31 AMQuote from: nönöbär on March 24, 2024, 03:53:46 AMI completely underestimated the size of the He 177. Compared to other German bombers, this plane is big.
It's like a Luftwaffe Lanc size-wise. :o
With a Manchester's engine layout.
It'd be 50/50 whether the Vulture or the DB 610 was the most UNreliable...................
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 24, 2024, 07:46:28 AMIt'd be 50/50 whether the Vulture or the DB 610 was the most UNreliable...................
As I understand it, the engine problems would have been much alleviated by
proper sufficient cooling
Overly complicated, they should of gone down the 277 route earlier.
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2024, 07:11:51 AMOverly complicated, they should of gone down the 277 route earlier.
Of course. It would not be german otherwise.... ;D
Catching fire was expected with a DB610. They got worried if it didn't happen. Meant they were low on flammable fluids...
Quote from: loupgarou on March 25, 2024, 08:07:17 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on March 25, 2024, 07:11:51 AMOverly complicated, they should of gone down the 277 route earlier.
Of course. It would not be german otherwise.... ;D
;D ;D
Quote from: zenrat on March 26, 2024, 04:01:09 AMCatching fire was expected with a DB610. They got worried if it didn't happen. Meant they were low on flammable fluids...
;D ;D
I hope that my model will not catch fire because of its engines...
Landing gear is now done and waiting for later assembly
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240225_102450114.jpg)
Starting with some first primer colours, but still fighting a bit with the fit quality of the fuselage. You definitely see the age of this kit. I guess I should have taken a Revell He 177 for the conversion.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240324_102451748.jpg)
The Airfix 177 dates from 1965, your boxing is circa 1980 I think, judging by the oval logo.
Comparing the Revell and Airfix fuselages, the length matches and many of the other points are in the same place.
Hmm, I did not know that this kit is so old...
But now the first color layer has been completed. Adding the masking was a it of a paint. And all the putty & sanding was.
Then the airbrush cabin is free again (now blocked by the Reban space ship), camo painting can be added.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240414_102426021.jpg)
Slow progress, but some more colors have been added. Still a lot to do here
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240428_100144970.jpg)
Continuing the camo paint job, so it looks a bit more complete now:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240505_100736511.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240505_100806630.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Very nice 👌 😀
Coming alive :thumbsup:
Everything has been painted now, so the final assembly can begin:
The tail:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240511_112535824.jpg)
The wings:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240512_094157719.jpg)
The new rudder:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240512_094209904.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Camouflage looks excellent!
Camouflage is wonderful !!!
Sometimes, you have to be a bit creative if you have to put the wings into position to glue them. But luckily, there is this talented engineer working at my models
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240513_170720331.jpg)
All wings added, now all the "smaller" rest is missing
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240513_170925374.jpg)
Landing gear etc. added
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240525_133749593.jpg)
Now the He 177 is standing on its landing gear, waiting for the first layer of finish and the decals.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240526_073346256.jpg)
That is looking the business :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
Like the engines, the main undercarriage seems to be an unnecessarily complex installation. Probably didn't catch fire as much as the engines though.
The twin fin modification makes it look so much better. :thumbsup:
Excellent progress! Does your engineer do consultancy work, by any chance? Asking for a friend..... ;)
Cheers,
Mark
Now starting with the decals. The original ones were not usable at all, so I got some Paddinghaus decals for a He 177.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240601_124729117.jpg)
I hope that the final finish on the model will remove the bright reflection form the decals.
:thumbsup: :mellow:
Great work ..the camo looks great 👍
Excellent work, this is looking superb!
Now that all the decals have been added and the model is waiting for its final finish, my engineer points out that there are some holes on top of the plane. Hmm, looks as if she is right.
But it would not be the engineer if she had not some kind of ides for this. I wonder what....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240608_093319435.jpg)
That finish is looking good
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 10, 2024, 05:42:59 AMThat finish is looking good
It has not been added on this picture yet .... :)
Quote from: nönöbär on June 11, 2024, 10:57:29 PMQuote from: NARSES2 on June 10, 2024, 05:42:59 AMThat finish is looking good
It has not been added on this picture yet .... :)
He's talking about the finish of the paintwork, my friend. ;)
Quote from: Old Wombat on June 12, 2024, 03:11:29 AMQuote from: nönöbär on June 11, 2024, 10:57:29 PMQuote from: NARSES2 on June 10, 2024, 05:42:59 AMThat finish is looking good
It has not been added on this picture yet .... :)
He's talking about the finish of the paintwork, my friend. ;)
Indeed :thumbsup:
One of the exciting moments is always to remove the masking of the cockpit windows. Especially on those of a cockpit like the one of a He 177. While I like the look, I hate the masking.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240616_094309493.jpg)
In the meantime, my engineer suggested that I could use the holes in the fuselage to load coffee and make this a coffee-delivery-aircraft. I do not know what I should say to this idea...
Quote from: nönöbär on June 16, 2024, 04:29:43 AMWhile I like the look, I hate the masking.
That's why I never built aircraft with greenhouses.
Quote from: nönöbär on June 16, 2024, 04:29:43 AM...my engineer suggested that I could use the holes in the fuselage to load coffee and make this a coffee-delivery-aircraft. I do not know what I should say to this idea...
Say yes.
Tophe would have loved the idea.
Quote from: zenrat on June 16, 2024, 05:52:06 AMQuote from: nönöbär on June 16, 2024, 04:29:43 AM...my engineer suggested that I could use the holes in the fuselage to load coffee and make this a coffee-delivery-aircraft. I do not know what I should say to this idea...
Say yes.
Tophe would have loved the idea.
A potential entry into the Memorial GB?
A small project is ready to start. This is a 1/72 scale Plastyk kit of a FW190D. Simple model, just over 3€ on a polish online shop. Got this one together with some other kits form there.
This one will be build a a hypothetical post WW2 Egypt Airforce plane.
The box:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2024051212444.jpg)
And this is in the box. Of course the kit cannot compared to an expensive one, but for its price, its more than ok.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel2024051212455.jpg)
A few smaller parts have been done so far:
Engine with engine cover
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20240526103007.jpg)
Landing gear
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20240526103008.jpg)
Start to build wings and fuselage
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20240526103009.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on June 30, 2024, 04:32:58 AMThis one will be build a a hypothetical post WW2 Egypt Airforce plane.
Well, that ought to make the 1948 Arab-Israeli War a tad bit more "interesting".
Quote from: scooter on June 30, 2024, 05:00:54 AMWell, that ought to make the 1948 Arab-Israeli War a tad bit more "interesting".
This is the idea behind it somehow. Lets see how this cheap thing can be build.
Egyptian FW-190 vs Israeli Me-109? That would be weird! :thumbsup:
They both had Spitfires at one stage.
Turkey operated some Fw 190s with radials (as well as Spitfires) during and after WWII.
Start painting the FW190 with a four-color camo scheme:
Staring with a overall grey
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240530_151113688.jpg)
Adding some shading
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240531_132011359.jpg)
Next: Sand color
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240601_113015405.jpg)
Second camo color: Green
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240605_170647876.jpg)
Last camo color: Dark green (hard to see)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240609_084152158.MP.jpg)
Everything put together now, painting completed, now only the decals are missing.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240623_063530580.jpg)
Coming together nicely :thumbsup:
A new model here, again this will be one of those 3€ Plastyk kits from Poland. A TS-11 Iskra. Or as the operator of thisp lane will say:
Greenland Airforce TS-11 Qinngorneq
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20240623105114.jpg)
This is the box
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20240623105115.jpg)
And this is what is in the box. Quite unusual plastic color for a plane.
Not too much parts, lets see if its ok to build as the last Plastyk plane i made. Of course you cannot compare it with a 20-30€ model, but for its price it was not bad.
This one will be make with a customized camo and decals.
Greenland AF ? Interesting :thumbsup:
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 29, 2024, 07:48:28 AMGreenland AF ? Interesting :thumbsup:
Gotta deal with those pesky Canucks when they try claiming islands that aren't their's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War
Quote from: scooter on July 29, 2024, 07:59:37 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on July 29, 2024, 07:48:28 AMGreenland AF ? Interesting :thumbsup:
Gotta deal with those pesky Canucks when they try claiming islands that aren't their's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War
;D
Quote from: scooter on July 29, 2024, 07:59:37 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on July 29, 2024, 07:48:28 AMGreenland AF ? Interesting :thumbsup:
Gotta deal with those pesky Canucks when they try claiming islands that aren't their's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War
Interesting, cheers Scoot :thumbsup:
Quote from: scooter on July 29, 2024, 07:59:37 AMQuote from: NARSES2 on July 29, 2024, 07:48:28 AMGreenland AF ? Interesting :thumbsup:
Gotta deal with those pesky Canucks when they try claiming islands that aren't their's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War
Interesting and funny|
While I know about the Whisky War, this Greenland AF is set in the same What-If world as this model here Greenland Airforce UH-34, January 1967 (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=52532.0) where Greenland got its independence in 1965.
So, starting with the cockpit, I choose to give the pilots a red flight suit, better for rescuing them if they would go down somewhere over the ice
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240703_171833947.jpg)
While the kit it pretty basic, it has at least some decals for the panels.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240705_164845357.jpg)
Back from vacation, its time to get into business again.
Surprisingly, the kit has a quite detailed engine. Unfortunately, you will not see anything of it once both parts of the fuselage are put together
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240707_102849261.jpg)
Getting everything ready to paint
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240714_083746107.jpg)
Base color and fist parts of the camo added
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240727_093932581.jpg)
All colors have been added for the camo painting, a bit of clean us is needed here and there.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240823_172935283.jpg)
Now all the smaller parts like landing gear and weapons have to be made
Now all major parts are put together, it starts to look like an aircraft
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240907_071602145.jpg)
And it is standing on its own wheels. Looks as if I added enough weight to the nose.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240908_100829120.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Always a relief.
Will the ordnance change that?
It happend a few times that I miscalculated the weight and had a tailsitter when completed.
But I think this time, it should be save when external tanks etc. are added.
Everything now is in place, painting is done and the wight seems to be good for the plane:
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240922_081326286.jpg)
Payload is also added
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240922_081333553.jpg)
So everything is ready for the decals now. Unfortunately, my new printer does not print decals so good as the old one. Especially those on white slide paper. So have to do a few experiments to get those off the paper and one the plane.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20240922_081352293.jpg)
Nice !
The first plane for this year should be something that is classic use of putty, sanding, scrachbuilding without any 3D printing.
This will be the Polish Airforce PZL-237 Duży łoś.
Base on the PZL-37 medium bomber, this will be a 4-engine enlarged version of it.
Therefore, I need two of those PZL-37 kits. each of them around 5€ directly ordered in Poland.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20250126112701.jpg)
The production quality is, well, its not good. But anyway, many parts will be ripped apart to scrachtbuild something from it. As with many Polish model producers, the plastic is very "soft".
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/ScaleModel20250126112802.jpg)
I will start with the wings, taking two to make one
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250126_092012790.jpg)
hope that this goes well :thumbsup: as my mental image looks good, your plastic will be splendid.
and i have no dought that Kit will be along shortly to add his joy at seeing longer wings as well. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Steel Penguin on January 26, 2025, 03:21:04 AMand i have no dought that Kit will be along shortly to add his joy at seeing longer wings as well. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
ABSOLUTELY! :thumbsup: ;D
An excellent wing lengthening technique as well.
I have a soft spot for the Los because the Secretary of the White Eagle Club in Derby, an ex-Polish and RAF pilot called Tadek Unpronounceable, who I knew very well back in the 70s, flew one of them to France,
all the way across Germany, after the Nazis invaded Poland in 1939! He took all his crew and some of his ground crew as well, and they all lived to fight another day. An amazing bloke.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 26, 2025, 04:52:52 AMI have a soft spot for the Los because the Secretary of the White Eagle Club in Derby, an ex-Polish and RAF pilot called Tadek Unpronounceable, who I knew very well back in the 70s, flew one of them to France, all the way across Germany, after the Nazis invaded Poland in 1939! He took all his crew and some of his ground crew as well, and they all lived to fight another day. An amazing bloke.
That's a pretty ballsy stunt - and good on him for not just bugging out on his own. :thumbsup:
Sounds like something that might have appeared in a Commando comic back in the day...
Love the
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 26, 2025, 04:52:52 AMTadek Unpronounceable
:thumbsup: ;D
Quote from: Rick Lowe on January 26, 2025, 08:43:23 PMLove the
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 26, 2025, 04:52:52 AMTadek Unpronounceable
:thumbsup: ;D
Well it was, almost ALL of the club members had similarly unpronounceable names too! :o
The only ones with names that could be pronounced were me and my mate Bob Owen. ;D
Tadek was very downbeat about the flight, and just said 'We had to do it to carry on the fight' which was the attitude they ALL held.
This blasted editor keeps on adding an 'un-quote' icon at the end of my post, and I can't edit it out, it's nothing to do with me! :banghead:
OK, that was interesting! :blink:
I tried being a smart-arse & the bloody thing did it to me, too! :o
See what I mean?
It seems to be embedded in the preceeding post somehow.
Didn't show up on "Preview", either! :banghead:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 27, 2025, 01:59:30 AMQuote from: Rick Lowe on January 26, 2025, 08:43:23 PMLove the
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 26, 2025, 04:52:52 AMTadek Unpronounceable
:thumbsup: ;D
Well it was, almost ALL of the club members had similarly unpronounceable names too! :o
The only ones with names that could be pronounced were me and my mate Bob Owen. ;D
Tadek was very downbeat about the flight, and just said 'We had to do it to carry on the fight' which was the attitude they ALL held.
There you go.
Rick left out the end quote between the unpronounceable and the thumbs up.
He said smugly.
:mellow:
It's like working with nested IF's. You've got to count them in and then count them out.
Sure, but I put it back in and it took no notice. :(
Ooooh looking forward to this :thumbsup:
Yeah, I found exactly the same thing; not showing up in preview and reappearing in the post... First World Problems, and we manage to decipher things anyway, so... meh.
Teach me to try and make multiple quotes in my replies... ;D
Oh man, this is abut the worst kit I ever used. Better not to talk about fit and production quality. A lot of flash everywhere and yes, the parts fit together - somehow. But not as they should.
Anyway, as this kit will put apart and put together in a new form, this should be solved somehow. I hope so.
Main focus is still making the wings larger. Inner and outer parts are now connected
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250127_181105392.jpg)
A view form the other site, some support that it holds together
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250127_181113671.jpg)
And bringing the wing (upper part) in the right shape
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250128_175839228.jpg)
Innovative thinking there, nice one. :thumbsup:
enjoying this so far :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
When I set out to extend the wings on my XP-76 I used tubing inside the wing leading edges and I-beams along the flap-line to ensure the outer wings weren't too wobbly. Even so it was ... not to be tempted, shall we say? The beams were held in place with about 10ccs of superglue ... each. ;) 'Course, this was 1/48 scale that I got cheap from a scratch-n-dent sale. If you're working in 1/72 then I'm sure you'll be fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/TWUd2zk.jpg)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2025, 02:55:00 AMInnovative thinking there, nice one. :thumbsup:
Indeed :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
More work has been done on the wings, the shape should now work. And I am now ready to enter the putty&sanding hell....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250202_085504828.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250202_085510142.jpg)
In the meantime, I could start to paint the cockpit interior. For the general bad quality of this kit, the inside is quite "detailed"
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250206_181907736.jpg)
For the big wings, the fuselage has to be extended.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250208_145904784.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250208_145910761.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on February 09, 2025, 02:58:42 AMFor the big wings, the fuselage has to be extended.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250208_145904784.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250208_145910761.jpg)
MY kind of thinking, oh YES! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
@PR19_Kit : I have now shorted the extension a bit, it was too long . The tail and rudder is attached behind the brown part on the right, and did not look so good.
I hope that this construction works as it should.
While work continues with the wings - putty and sanding - I modfied the tail with elvators and rudders
Enlarge it
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250210_175725422.jpg)
Add additional surfaces
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250215_151316396.jpg)
Installing the first two rudders, the third will follow
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250216_093257652.jpg)
The extended fuselage, now a bit shorter than before. But looks better this way.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250215_115642934.jpg)
Testing wings and fuselage
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250216_093331779.jpg)
That's looking better and better. :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 16, 2025, 06:29:47 AMThat's looking better and better. :thumbsup:
Indeed :thumbsup:
While I am still make putty&sanding games with the wings, the fuselage extension made some progress.
Both parts put together
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250220_182723807.jpg)
Adding some cover. Looks ugly right now, I fear more putty&sandingwill be required.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250223_104448561.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on February 23, 2025, 03:26:20 AM......I fear more putty&sandingwill be required.
It always is when whiffing. :(
Reminds me that I want to build a Łoś on floats as a torpedo bomber...
Sometimes, things do not work as expected.
After adding a lot of putty and sanding it several times. And add more putty it fist looks as it was coming along nicely
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250228_144256797.jpg)
But then I found out that the fuselage is now bend. I fear this would have an impact on the flight characteristics.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250310_181622601.jpg)
So everything had to be taken apart again, a new extension had to be made
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250314_180803138.jpg)
And I am back in the putty & sanding fun. But this time, it looks better. But still a way to go.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250316_085639681.jpg)
:thumbsup:
Has it been landing through the boundary hedge? ;)
The hull extension is now done, only a few pits have to be corrected. So the tail section could be added as well. More putty&sanding required here.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250323_084818168.jpg)
And a test to put all together, how it looks right now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250323_084835696.jpg)
Oh, I do like where this is going :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Unfortunately, there is only very slow progress this week.
A bit more work on the fuselage, the sanding is almost over now.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250330_101911281.jpg)
Also working on the engines, an this kit is really awful regarding fit quality
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250330_103858675.jpg)
The fit may be flying faecal matter but your build is looking good! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on March 30, 2025, 07:26:02 AMThe fit may be flying faecal matter but your build is looking good! :thumbsup:
Indeed :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
The fuselage is now ready to get its primer, and then we can start with the camo painting
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250406_080249930.jpg)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It now looks more and more like an aircraft. And not a small one.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250407_165409847.jpg)
Starting with the paint job... Wings are not connected yet, it will be easier to paint them this way.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250413_071442172.jpg)
That is a LOT of wing! :o
And then it made "Plopp" and the landing gear mount in one of the wings fell into it :(
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250417_171017414.jpg)
My engineer is checking what to do now, I fear the wing needs to be disassembled again.
And in the meantime, I can continue with masking the cockpit windows. A lot to do there.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250420_081754848.jpg)
Quote from: nönöbär on April 20, 2025, 01:57:21 AMAnd then it made "Plopp" and the landing gear mount in one of the wings fell into it :(
Don't you just HATE it when things like that happen? :banghead:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 20, 2025, 03:20:22 AMQuote from: nönöbär on April 20, 2025, 01:57:21 AMAnd then it made "Plopp" and the landing gear mount in one of the wings fell into it :(
Don't you just HATE it when things like that happen? :banghead:
It made "plopp" and I said "s*****".
That's looking so cool, great idea and execution so far. :thumbsup:
Quote from: nönöbär on April 20, 2025, 07:40:03 AMQuote from: PR19_Kit on April 20, 2025, 03:20:22 AMQuote from: nönöbär on April 20, 2025, 01:57:21 AMAnd then it made "Plopp" and the landing gear mount in one of the wings fell into it :(
Don't you just HATE it when things like that happen? :banghead:
It made "plopp" and I said "s*****".
Fairly restrained reaction I would of thought under the circumstances ;)
The first camo color has been added, and masking has been applied. Exiting moment will be when it will be removed, did it work then?
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250503_145828437.jpg)
Tease ;D
Looking forward to the un-veiling :thumbsup:
The second color has been added....
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250504_141245656.jpg)
... and now the third.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250511_065523617.jpg)
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250511_065546575.jpg)
All parts now have to be put together, adding all the smaller details and decals.
:thumbsup:
I do like this :thumbsup:
Hmm, how did Brittney Spears say?
Opps, I did it again.... :(
To bad, again the landing gear mount fell into the wing. And now there is no change to take the win apart again to rescue it. it was the same one that I "fixed" before.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250515_171441586.jpg)
So, its always good to have an engineer around to develop a "Plan B". The idea is to print a new mound that fills the complete wing. So that it cannot fall into it again.
Here is a first test to check the dimensions.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250517_071329799.jpg)
Adding the final printed version, in a comparison to the original one that is in the other side. This has to be removed as well.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250517_092046335.jpg)
Now both parts are added, have to fix the black paint, so lets get the airbrush again.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250518_073010221.jpg)
And after adding all engines, it looks almost like a finished aircraft. With the colors, it gets some kind of British look&feel.
(https://www.german-navy.de/web/ScaleModels/PXL_20250517_071258333.jpg)
I hope that no other parts make "plopp" now.
Quote from: nönöbär on May 18, 2025, 01:07:11 AMI hope that no other parts make "plopp" now.
So do I, but with your engineering skills I'm sure you could find a solution :bow: :thumbsup:
Amazing project! Love to see this finished.
It's such a pickle to enlongate those lovely PZL wings and horizontal tailplanes. But you managed to do this easily. Bravo!
David aka 63CPE