Started by seadude, April 21, 2022, 12:12:08 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on April 22, 2022, 07:57:06 AMHaving read their Rules & Conditions of Entry, I'm with Jon on this, I think it highly unlikely that you have a hope in Hell of getting your Wisconsin through the door, let alone the competition.This is a Wisconsin Maritime Museum run competition in association with the Nautical Research Guild. These people are going to be looking for proven historical accuracy, not well/better researched What If...The line "historical account on the actual ship or type of vessel the model represents" is, I think, very telling.I'd put money on the organisers, judges & (other) contestants being the conservative extremists of the Rivet Counter world.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 21, 2022, 12:45:01 PMMy read of their requirements regarding history, and historical accuracy, makes we wonder if they'll even accept an entirely fictional build.
Quote from: seadude on April 22, 2022, 10:36:49 AM*sigh* You're both probably right. I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of taking my Wisconsin model to the contest and entering it for competition. For "Display Only" purposes.......maybe? I don't think a construction or historical papers is needed for display only model subjects.
QuoteUSS Iowa Historical NotesWhat would the USS Iowa have looked like had it returned to service after the tragic April 1989 Turret # 2 explosion? Could the turret have been saved and rebuilt with replacement parts? Or would it have been removed and some other weapon system put in it's place? Would the rest of the ship have been further modernized as well?During the early 1980's, the IOWA class battleships were modernized with what was then known as a Phase 1 design. This was intended to be a quick conversion at a limited cost to get the ships active and operational as soon as possible. This design phase upgraded the battleships with Tomahawk cruise missile armored box launchers, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, Phalanx CIWS gun systems, new radar systems, and many more changes both inside and outside the ships. This is the design most people are familiar with when they see pictures of the battleships from the 1980's or when visiting the battleships as they now sit as museum attractions at various ports in the U.S.. After Phase 1, the US Navy went further and planned for Phase 2 which included at least 10 (or more?) design studies. These studies were initiated to determine a conversion configuration that was to commence when one of these ships began her first regularly scheduled overhaul. Various Phase 2 designs were more "extreme" as some of them were to propose the following: a) Removing Turret # 3 and placing a large flight deck at the rear of the ship (plus hangar space) for AV-8A/B Harriers or other helicopters and aircraft, b) Removal of all three main gun turrets, c) Adding massive amounts of VLS (Vertical Launch System) missile cells. Sometimes as much as 300-400+ missiles, d) Addition of the AEGIS anti-air radar system, e) Adding 2 (or more) NATO Sea Sparrow anti-aircraft missile launchers, f) Replace some or all 5"/38 secondary gun turrets with 5"/54 Mk.45 guns.But after much deliberations and design changes, all Phase 2 studies were cancelled due to extremely high costs as well as opposition from figures in the military (particuarly the U.S. Marine Corps) and from Congress. But the proposals didn't stop there. Around 1990, more modest and "conservative" updates were planned. All four ships were to have received the following changes as funding became available. These were to include, but not limited to: a) A smaller VLS missile cell size of 96-128, b) Adding two or more NATO Sea Sparrow missile launchers, c) Addition of Mk.23 TAS (Target Acquisition System) radar, d) Replace 5"/38 guns with 5"/54 guns, e) Extended range EX-148 13" inch saboted rounds for the 16" guns. The updates would depend on the ship, cost, and time of availability. But sadly, none of these updates were added as all four IOWA class battleships were decommissioned around the time of the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War.
Quote from: NARSES2 on April 29, 2022, 05:20:33 AMLooks fine to me
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 21, 2022, 02:11:32 PMWriting a believable back story, which is what you're trying to do, is usually a matter of fitting the fictional bits into the real world events.
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