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Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« on: March 19, 2019, 03:56:29 pm »
Will post the usual opening shot of the parts and inbuilt kit at the beginning later. Bit excited as in finally made some progress in this project. I finally found the correct sized tubes! They're essential for this build! anyway here the first glimpse:

IMG_20190319_231722651 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

Anyone recognizes an academy ov-10. The brown blob's are the PT6 engines borrowed from an Twin Otter. :unsure:

Really not sure if it will make the deadline in time but who dares, wins...

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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2019, 05:45:25 am »
Found the starting pictures back again on the phone. So, This is how it started...

IMG_20190320_090658521 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

I started early this morning to make good progress. And progress was made!
The aluminum tube was cut in 4 pieces of 10 centimeters, ends were sanded smooth. Boring job was to cut 16 round plates from 0,75 mm styrene sheet. 8 of those are used as end plates of the tubes, the other 8 are cut again. This time a 20mm circle in the middle of the plates were made and presto! The first testfit for the rotors was successful (see left hand side of picture). Also cut out the main carriers for the for and aft set of rotors.
IMG_20190320_101436195 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

All rotors almost finished. Main carriers for the for and aft set of rotors in front:
IMG_20190320_113019451 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

all rotors finished and rotors attached to main carriers. Rotors are able to rotate!:
IMG_20190320_123818278 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr
With the Flettner rotors in front of the fuselage it definitely look like a combine!

After some test fitting the pillars on the Bronco's fuselage proved to be to low. Now the front rotors touch the upper canopy. So remove the pillars and made me new ones. The aft set of rotors are going to be put higher than the set in front to make the best use of undisturbed airflow.

Next up are the engines. they are to be put just in front of the forward set of rotors.

For any further reading over Flettner rotors and its use on aircraft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flettner_airplane
And a video proving the concept is able to fly! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlmvHfIAszo

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Re: Rockwell FAR-X
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2019, 05:57:21 am »
WHAAAAATTTTTTTTTT?  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage

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Re: Rockwell FAR-X
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2019, 06:53:32 am »
Lovely concept!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Rockwell FAR-X
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2019, 08:11:02 am »
That is so not what I was imaging from your initial post. What a crazy and wonderful idea!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Rockwell FAR-X
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2019, 09:32:07 am »
I thought I had seen some strange flying machines but this takes the cake!!
Definitely a concept I had never seen before! I'll love to see this one come along.
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 10:22:09 am »
I have heard of the Flettner wing system, but that video of the R/C model is magic.  :wub:
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2019, 10:54:15 am »
Fantastic idea. What a weird concept.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 02:49:22 am »
Flettner wings are possibly a solution in search of a problem.  I wonder what effect on the handling the gyro forces from the spinning cylinders would have?  Maybe something unexpected a skilled pilot could use in combat?
I like it.  Can't wait to see more.
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 11:15:34 am »
Destroying a twin-boom layout is acute heresy, but here: the result is very nice, all right! :thumbsup:
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2019, 11:51:00 am »
The Magnus effect.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 12:25:09 pm »
Yep, lift is generated by the Magnus effect.

Now the fuselage is ready for the spray booth, let's test fit the contraption:
IMG_20190322_195743443 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

IMG_20190322_195829641 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

IMG_20190322_195900925 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

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IMG_20190322_195936238 by Buddy Holly, on Flickr

The protruding beam upfront is the main engine carrier. It'll end in a beam across carrying two PT6 engines from a Twinotter on each side just in front of the frontal rotor.

Hope you like it!
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 12:28:08 pm »
Wow! :wub:
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 04:09:50 pm »
That looks truly awesome.  :thumbsup:

Do the multiple 'rotor discs' spread along the 'span' improve the lift?

The Flettner rotors used on ships only seem to have one disc, right at the top of the rotor.
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Re: Rockwell FAR-X (Flettner Air Rotor -Experimental)
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 06:58:43 pm »
That looks truly awesome.  :thumbsup:

Do the multiple 'rotor discs' spread along the 'span' improve the lift?

The Flettner rotors used on ships only seem to have one disc, right at the top of the rotor.

I'd assume that the disks prevent the air, traveling over the rotors from "spreading" and the direction of lift being lost.  Not such a problem on a ship with a vertical rotor but more important on an aircraft.
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