Just for a laugh

Started by Beermonster58, June 20, 2026, 02:55:03 AM

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Beermonster58

I don't know how it came to me but, I got this funny notion about merging a B-26 Marauder and, Il-28 Beagle to produce an early Martin jet bomber.

Figure the  relatively narrow wings from the IL-28 might not be too awkward to fit. Fitting the entire IL-28 tail unit looks like an easier option than grafting on its rear fuselage due to fuselage dimensions differences.

I'm going to dispense with the glass nose and fit a "solid" one instead. Of course, I'll now have to source a suitable Il-28 😉😂.
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Weaver

Same thought's occurred to me several times. :thumbsup:

I think it's due to the B-26's circular-section fuselage and relatively short wings, both of which look more "jet age" than most WWII bombers.
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Beermonster58

#2
Quote from: Weaver on June 20, 2026, 05:04:38 AMSame thought's occurred to me several times. :thumbsup:

I think it's due to the B-26's circular-section fuselage and relatively short wings, both of which look more "jet age" than most WWII bombers.

👍🙂
The rather tubby B-26 fuselage in general and, the rear fuselage taper in particular are the issues but, where there's a whif, theres a way!

Both aircraft had the same wingspan at 22m. Wing area was about the same too. I think the wider B-26 fuselage just made the wings look shorter than they were.

I'm in 2 minds as to whether or not to dispense with the rear gun position😊. I'll be keeping the same side by side seating in the cockpit with both airmen equipped with bang seats.
Anyway, I've just ordered an Italeri Il-28 si, we'll find out soon enough how it's all going to go together, or not! 😂

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kerick

The old Soviet stuff always had a tail gunner. Even a lot of the supposedly civilian transport types.
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Weaver

Quote from: Beermonster58 on June 20, 2026, 07:38:02 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 20, 2026, 05:04:38 AMSame thought's occurred to me several times. :thumbsup:

I think it's due to the B-26's circular-section fuselage and relatively short wings, both of which look more "jet age" than most WWII bombers.

👍🙂
The rather tubby B-26 fuselage in general and, the rear fuselage taper in particular are the issues but, where there's a whif, theres a way!

Both aircraft had the same wingspan at 22m. Wing area was about the same too. I think the wider B-26 fuselage just made the wings look shorter than they were.

I'm in 2 minds as to whether or not to dispense with the rear gun position😊. I'll be keeping the same side by side seating in the cockpit with both airmen equipped with bang seats.
Anyway, I've just ordered an Italeri Il-28 si, we'll find out soon enough how it's all going to go together, or not! 😂



Yep, I meant the B-26 wings were short by comparison with other WWII bombers. It's relatively high wing loading and consequent high landing speed were what gave it a poor reputation as difficult to fly, although of course only a few years later such landing speeds became perfectly normal.
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kerick

A bomber a day in Tampa Bay!
From McDill AF base.
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Beermonster58

Quote from: kerick on June 20, 2026, 07:56:18 AMThe old Soviet stuff always had a tail gunner. Even a lot of the supposedly civilian transport types.
👍🙂. True enough. On the other hand, if employed in an interdiction role, having a couple of nasties in the tail would be good for throwing a few hundred rounds at the bad guys while passing overhead?

Looking at it again, it might just be easier to leave it in place.

Either that or, rebuild the root of the fin. I'm fundamentally lazy so I'll probably go for the easy option! 😂
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zenrat

I miss read this and my mind was boggling at same scale Il-28 wings on a B-36 fuselage... :blink:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on June 21, 2026, 05:54:01 AMI miss read this and my mind was boggling at same scale Il-28 wings on a B-36 fuselage... :blink:


That would re-define the term 'wing loading' to the MAX!  :o
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Weaver

Quote from: Beermonster58 on June 21, 2026, 12:33:49 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 20, 2026, 07:56:18 AMThe old Soviet stuff always had a tail gunner. Even a lot of the supposedly civilian transport types.
👍🙂. True enough. On the other hand, if employed in an interdiction role, having a couple of nasties in the tail would be good for throwing a few hundred rounds at the bad guys while passing overhead?

Looking at it again, it might just be easier to leave it in place.

Either that or, rebuild the root of the fin. I'm fundamentally lazy so I'll probably go for the easy option! 😂

IL-28 used to literally do that in the Nigeria Civil War.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

jcf

#10
B-26/B-26A had a wingspan of 65' it was increased to 71' from the B-26B and on, tailplanes and the fin/rudder were enlarged at the same time. Wing incidence was increased from 3.5° to 7° on the B-26F/G.

kerick

I'd like to see that whole tail transplanted to the B-26! This is just for fun anyway so go big or go home!
If there is a place on both fuselages that are the same diameter it might just work.
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Rheged

#12
Quote from: kerick on June 20, 2026, 08:42:56 AMA bomber a day in Tampa Bay!
From McDill AF base.

This sounds like "Hudson Bay"   an area of the Solway firth near Anthorn airfield.  https://www.solwaymilitarytrail.co.uk/trail-attractions/rnas-anthorn/      Other training airfields in the area made contributions too!   This whole site is worth a few minutes of your time.
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Beermonster58

Quote from: zenrat on June 21, 2026, 05:54:01 AMI miss read this and my mind was boggling at same scale Il-28 wings on a B-36 fuselage... :blink:
😂😂😂 Well, that might work on the old Revell (now Atlantis Models) box scale B-36!! It's about 1/136 scale if I recall
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