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Russian Sabres

Started by Geoff, June 13, 2026, 04:11:32 AM

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Geoff

In 1952 Vladimir Kondratiev proposed serial production of the reverse engineered F-86E Sabre. Stalin OKed this idea and he went to OKB-1 (Mig's).
Skipping a long political sing song - they got to a full scale mock up stage when they ran out of time, Kondratiev was replaced by Pavel Sukhoi and the Sabre project was cancelled on19/09/53.

What if? Would it have been an Su-?

Geoff

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Rick Lowe

Imagine them squaring off against US Sabres... very like the Op Downfall US/Japanese 262 builds on here...

Geoff

Quote from: Rick Lowe on June 30, 2026, 10:40:57 PMImagine them squaring off against US Sabres... very like the Op Downfall US/Japanese 262 builds on here...

 :mellow:   :thumbsup:

Charlie_c67

Have to wonder how they'd stack up considering the difference in technological levels between the two countries. One faster and heavier whilst the other more nimble with extra bells and whistles?
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."

PR19_Kit

I wondered how long the Russian-ised J-47 would last too.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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Kit

Charlie_c67

I guess with the difference in metallurgical abilities between the two countries, not long if they could make it at all. More likely some sort of Soviet-fied version akin to the VK-1 and Nene.
"If you've never seen an elephant ski, then you've never been on acid."