1:144 Brengun Horten Go-229, nice little kit.
Made it like "wiffy" plane, with all metal construction and all metal skin, stronger engines with greater durabillity and with open/plexi back part of the canopy for much wider look in the back area. Painted with AK RC Markers.

That looks pretty good in the NMF finish. 

TNX!!

That is really good. 

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 12, 2026, 02:08:35 AMThat looks pretty good in the NMF finish. 

It does indeed. The pens also show just how tiny it is 

TNX!!

What If... Germany had access to more critical metals & other resources (like fuel & rubber), & hadn't had most of its production facilities blown to bits.

It's a scary model when you think of it like that! 

But it looks really good!   

Very nice! I have that kit in the stash - how was the build?

Quote from: frank2056 on April 12, 2026, 10:49:02 AMVery nice! I have that kit in the stash - how was the build?

Brengun OOB parts are very nice and fit is good.

Quote from: Old Wombat on April 12, 2026, 09:36:42 AMWhat If... Germany had access to more critical metals & other resources (like fuel & rubber), & hadn't had most of its production facilities blown to bits...

Then the moron in charge would have insisted it be capable of dive bombing...

Good build.   

Quote from: Old Wombat on April 12, 2026, 09:36:42 AMWhat If... Germany had access to more critical metals & other resources (like fuel & rubber), & hadn't had most of its production facilities blown to bits.

It's a scary model when you think of it like that! 

But it looks really good!   

The H IX/Ho 229/Go 229 structure was steel-tube and ply because that is what Reimar Horten used
for his wings, and what he was familiar with, not because of metal shortages. He had never designed
an all-metal airframe and the H IX design would have been very different if it had been an all-metal
airframe. Weight and balance etc. etc., would have been different and Reimar would have been unable to
make the tweaks he was constantly doing on his wings, mid-stream, after construction and during flight test,
mods were fairly easily done to a steel-tube and ply structure, unlike an all-metal aircraft.

One thing people seem to miss is that the flight tests of the HIX V1 glider, and the limited testing of the
H IX V2 which crashed on its third flight, revealed that the design had the same problem as all other
all-wing aircraft - it hunted across the centreline in the direction of flight, the same "instability in yaw"
as the Northrop wings, large and small. Horten had been able to limit it in his gliders and sailplanes by
increasing the aspect ratio through lengthening the wings, and having the pilot's fairing projecting
beneath the wing. Neither was possible with the H IX design and the thickened centre-section, required
to accomodate a pilot, engines etc. within the envelope of the aerofoil exacerbated the condition. This is the
reason for the bat-wing planview, deeping the aerofoil to accomodate all the gubbins meant it also had to
be lengthened. In the opinion of test pilots it would have been a poor gun platform, as keeping it pointed
at the target would have been difficult.

You can give the Nazis fuel and materials but their old problem would still exist, production capacity, sure
they could add more underground slave labour factories and work tens of thousands more to their deaths,
but they'd still never be able to counter the scale of production of the Allies, the UK, US and USSR. They
were always going to lose, the only question was how many millions they took with them. 

I still believe the Horten Bros. helped the Allied war effort by diverting resources (a few at least - engines, technicians, money, equipment) from other German aircraft companies. Every bit counted.

Quote from: frank2056 on April 13, 2026, 09:30:47 PMI still believe the Horten Bros. helped the Allied war effort by diverting resources (a few at least - engines, technicians, money, equipment) from other German aircraft companies. Every bit counted.

Not really, they never built much of anything, the staff was always very small and mostly the same
people who had assisted Reimar for years. He was very hands on and was directly involved in the
actual construction of most of the wings. It really was for all intents and purposes a garage
enterprise with minimal facilities and equipment and the engineering staff was basically just Reimar.
Also, unlike Jack Northrop, Reimar wouldn't delegate and was determined to solve all issues himself.
Once the production was assigned to Gotha then on paper more resources were available, except that
Gotha didn't actually want to build it, they kept the program understaffed while diverting funding and
engineering time to their own P.60 project. 

The reality is that once all of the hype is pushed aside, the Hortens never had any effect on the
WWII aviation industry of Nazi Germany, pro or con. Nor, for that matter, did they have much of
an effect on aviation in general. Flying wings, regardless of origin, are an aeronautical curiosity
with minimal utility, and that in only very specific roles.