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An American Whatif..... McDonnell Douglas 265-1 VLF AFTI

Started by scautomoton, July 19, 2025, 03:34:09 AM

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zenrat

This has no rudders or ailerons.  Does it have all flying wings and vertical tails?
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- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

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scautomoton

Quote from: zenrat on October 06, 2025, 04:16:26 AMThis has no rudders or ailerons.  Does it have all flying wings and vertical tails?

The wings are variable incidence, so can rotate independently to control roll, or together to allow forwards flight whilst pointing the fuselage (and hence cannon) at targets on the ground.
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Quote from: scautomoton on October 06, 2025, 05:01:01 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 06, 2025, 04:16:26 AMThis has no rudders or ailerons.  Does it have all flying wings and vertical tails?

The wings are variable incidence, so can rotate independently to control roll, or together to allow forwards flight whilst pointing the fuselage (and hence cannon) at targets on the ground.

Also, the all-moving tailplanes and the ventral fin under the nose can probably be moved in opposite directions for yaw or the same direction for Direct Side Force Control as per the DSFC F-16 that had two ventral fins under the intake.
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 - Indiana Jones

NARSES2

As most people know I tend to prefer my builds to have propellers  ;D , but this is a stunner and I'm sorely tempted. Thinking in terms of something like a RAuxAF "Local Interceptor" , assuming that the UK Ecconomy had discovered the legendary Midas Touch Stone of course  ;)

Terrific piece of work  :bow:
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zenrat

Quote from: Weaver on October 06, 2025, 05:09:51 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on October 06, 2025, 05:01:01 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 06, 2025, 04:16:26 AMThis has no rudders or ailerons.  Does it have all flying wings and vertical tails?

The wings are variable incidence, so can rotate independently to control roll, or together to allow forwards flight whilst pointing the fuselage (and hence cannon) at targets on the ground.

Also, the all-moving tailplanes and the ventral fin under the nose can probably be moved in opposite directions for yaw or the same direction for Direct Side Force Control as per the DSFC F-16 that had two ventral fins under the intake.

That covers it all.   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.  Revelling in numptytism.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed, badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere, for your convenience.

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PR19_Kit

I found a bookazine called 'Westland's Secret Projects' y'day, never having heard of it before, and there's a project in there for a fighter that looks REMARKABLY like this! It has deflected thrust on its engine exhausts though to help it get off from carrier decks.

I don't have access to a scanner down here in (Un-)Sunny Devon, but I'll try and take a pic or tow of it later in the week.
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NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 07, 2025, 02:23:55 AMI found a bookazine called 'Westland's Secret Projects' y'day, never having heard of it before,

One to look out for next time I'm in Smiths (or whatever they are called nowdays). Must admit I do find the range and coverage of some of these bookazines quite remarkable. I thought we were meant to be a "niche" hobby  ;)  ;D
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 07, 2025, 02:23:55 AMI found a bookazine called 'Westland's Secret Projects' y'day, never having heard of it before, and there's a project in there for a fighter that looks REMARKABLY like this! It has deflected thrust on its engine exhausts though to help it get off from carrier decks.

I don't have access to a scanner down here in (Un-)Sunny Devon, but I'll try and take a pic or tow of it later in the week.

Quote from: perttime on October 07, 2025, 03:07:39 AMSecretprojects has this: Westland proposal to Spec. M.148T
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/westland-proposal-to-spec-m-148t.10147/

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Yep, Westland's submission for what became the Buccaneer. Didn't do too well in the competition, placed 4 out of 5 IIRC. It relied heavily on deflected jets. I've always found the shape quite pleasing.

perttime

Quote from: Mossie on October 07, 2025, 06:43:42 AMYep, Westland's submission for what became the Buccaneer. Didn't do too well in the competition, placed 4 out of 5 IIRC. It relied heavily on deflected jets. I've always found the shape quite pleasing.
The top (bottom) view is quite interesting .... but the forward fuselage looks a bit bulky. I wonder if an F/A-18 front end would fit  :wacko:

PR19_Kit

I do like that business with the tailplane being an integral part of the fuselage, makes for a very clean airframe.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit