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The P.1121 get's it's feet wet

Started by Gondor, July 06, 2025, 01:13:28 PM

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Pellson

This is work way beyond my ambitions! Really interesting to see the model progressing, though.  :thumbsup:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Gondor

Quote from: Pellson on October 25, 2025, 02:12:19 PMThis is work way beyond my ambitions! Really interesting to see the model progressing, though.  :thumbsup:

I'm not 100% sure that it isn't beyond mine either  :-\

I just keep doing one bit at a time, look at what needs to be done, and try to think through what I can do, even if it is trying something new, such as the brass work that I am putting into the build.
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Rick Lowe

And being willing to redo a part from scratch, if the first one doesn't work.
Took me a while to learn that trick...

Gondor

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 26, 2025, 02:45:21 AMAnd being willing to redo a part from scratch, if the first one doesn't work.
Took me a while to learn that trick...

It's always quicker to make a second or third item with some changes than to try to make an alteration to something and to make that alteration seamless in a lot of cases
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Gondor on October 26, 2025, 02:48:37 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 26, 2025, 02:45:21 AMAnd being willing to redo a part from scratch, if the first one doesn't work.
Took me a while to learn that trick...

It's always quicker to make a second or third item with some changes than to try to make an alteration to something and to make that alteration seamless in a lot of cases

Yes, indeed.  :thumbsup:

Gondor

Different materials require different methods to get them to stay together. So I bought some nice and cheap two-part epoxy to glue resin, plastic and brass together.



It's a bit difficult to see, but there is semi-transparent glue on top of the nose undercarriage bay holding the brass intake trunking to it. There is also some below the trunking around the lip of the plastic and the lower edge of the brass trunking altogether. It's just difficult to see.



That's all for now. There will be more once the epoxy is fully cured, so by the end of the week, maybe.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Rick Lowe

I swear* by 5-minute epoxy...

*mostly at models and other drivers...  ;D

Gondor

A little more work on the intake. Only on one side so far, but that allows people to see the differences.

First, the inside.



And then the sort of outside, or is it also the inside?



While the whole model will not be finished for Telford. I am hoping that I might get the intake trunking finished, not a problem if it isn't though.

Gondor

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

George the Cat

You fall right over and pick yourself up and start right over again: Ginger Rogers

Gondor

So a little more work on the intake.

The slight gap between the nose wheel bay and the plastic I had added now has additional plastic added, including the vertical gap forward of the nose wheel bay.





I am only working on one side of the nose wheel bay so that anyone who looks at it at Telford next weekend can see the difference.



And that's the first layer of putty applied. I am going to use fairly thin layers of putty. I don't want to melt the plastic that is the kit or the added structure that I have added.

Gondor

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Gondor

Since my last post on this thread, I have been to Telford, as some of you will know. It was very nice to meet several of you, amos, from Britmodeller, being one of those whom I enjoyed chatting with. Sorry to those whom I am not mentioning but chatted with. It was a long weekend with a lot happening in a very short time, and so many people who I met.

I have decided to add a second Whirlybird P.1121 to this thread. This will be a land-based version, an interceptor of 74 Sqn. I have already built a 4 Sqn machine, complete with a Red Beard slung under it, so other than building it as an interdictor/ground attack aircraft, I decided to go for an interceptor. I have primed to parts this evening, so cutting and initial prop work will take place over the weekend if it's raining. I have other things to do if the weather is dry.

So hopefully there will be an update of some sort over the weekend.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

perttime

On a tangent:
My FB feed informed that that:
"The surviving sections of the stillborn Hawker P.1121 'super fighter' prototype of 1958 have been placed on display at Brooklands Museum in Surrey – close to where it was built at the firm's Kingston-upon-Thames facility."
https://www.key.aero/article/hawker-p1121-breaks-cover-brooklands

PR19_Kit

'Become a Premium Member to read more'................ (Sigh)

I buy the blasted magazine, so I hope I don't need to.............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Quote from: perttime on November 14, 2025, 12:31:12 PMOn a tangent:
My FB feed informed that that:
"The surviving sections of the stillborn Hawker P.1121 'super fighter' prototype of 1958 have been placed on display at Brooklands Museum in Surrey – close to where it was built at the firm's Kingston-upon-Thames facility."
https://www.key.aero/article/hawker-p1121-breaks-cover-brooklands

Yup my FB through it as me as well.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

The Wooksta!

#194
Don't know if anyone recalls that I was working on something similar, using a very rough cloned resin P.1121 fuselage and a resin Hunter T7 front end, plus a lot of P.38, hope and swearing.  Here's some of the in progress shots.

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I know I changed the nosecone, but there's no photos beyond that date.  It got as far as the painted, decalled and varnished stage but then abandoned in late 2022.  I was working on way too many projects.

Some more shots.

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Plenty of P.38 to blend the front in.  The underneath isn't pretty.

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That piece around the intake is a resin clone of the vac form piece.  It was a nightmare to clean up, being wafer thin.

A nice tidy ring piece

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And with it's crab cousin.  Also got to the painted, decalled and varnished stage, and then abandoned at roughly the same time.  IIRC, the u/c was the main bugbear.  It's horrible.

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Posted as I just discovered the photos on me Facebook album when looking for something else.
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